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	<title>Comments on: Bucs Won&#8217;t Miss Aqib Talib</title>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2197055</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^^^^  Who can argue with logic like that?  It&#039;s especially hard when it&#039;s written in code.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^  Who can argue with logic like that?  It&#8217;s especially hard when it&#8217;s written in code.</p>
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		<title>By: SacBucs</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2195984</link>
		<dc:creator>SacBucs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No disrespect to rhode at all love the future hof..he was a undersized cb told he couldnt getit done.Im new to the site but not the bucs by far..I dont speak perfect english either so dont getta correcting me you teachers..i have seen every buc game since 96 and i got tired of herman moore randy moss antinio freeman dogging are corners every year..im still mad ay brian kelly for letting ricky proehl out jump him in the nfc championship..real buc fans stand up. Monte mad e rhonde into a hall of famer from sneaking him on the blitz and the tampa 2. Talib best corners bucs everhad holla at me joe..we use to be the punching bag for the whole league til we got some heart on the team and stopped getting punked every sunday any giving monday!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No disrespect to rhode at all love the future hof..he was a undersized cb told he couldnt getit done.Im new to the site but not the bucs by far..I dont speak perfect english either so dont getta correcting me you teachers..i have seen every buc game since 96 and i got tired of herman moore randy moss antinio freeman dogging are corners every year..im still mad ay brian kelly for letting ricky proehl out jump him in the nfc championship..real buc fans stand up. Monte mad e rhonde into a hall of famer from sneaking him on the blitz and the tampa 2. Talib best corners bucs everhad holla at me joe..we use to be the punching bag for the whole league til we got some heart on the team and stopped getting punked every sunday any giving monday!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2195960</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t all you guys speak at once!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t all you guys speak at once!</p>
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		<title>By: SacBucs</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2195910</link>
		<dc:creator>SacBucs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talib is the best corner the bucs has ever had period..wat are you smoking]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talib is the best corner the bucs has ever had period..wat are you smoking</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2195769</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.......I&#039;m still waiting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;.I&#8217;m still waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2195389</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elite backs don&#039;t get torched as much as Talib does, and I&#039;m not just talking about the Giants game.  Elite corners can go seasons without getting beat for TD&#039;s (Champ Bailey, Revis, Nnamdi pre-Philly).  Talib gambles far too often, doesn&#039;t have make up speed, doesn&#039;t have great technique, and isn&#039;t a great tackler.  But other than that, he&#039;s exceptional.  

Perhaps your definition of elite differs from what it really means.  Again, I think he&#039;s a good CB and I wish we kept him, but he is not even in the neighborhood of elite.  Find me one person with football credentials that has ever said he&#039;s elite.  Go ahead, I&#039;ll check back.  I&#039;ve got all day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elite backs don&#8217;t get torched as much as Talib does, and I&#8217;m not just talking about the Giants game.  Elite corners can go seasons without getting beat for TD&#8217;s (Champ Bailey, Revis, Nnamdi pre-Philly).  Talib gambles far too often, doesn&#8217;t have make up speed, doesn&#8217;t have great technique, and isn&#8217;t a great tackler.  But other than that, he&#8217;s exceptional.  </p>
<p>Perhaps your definition of elite differs from what it really means.  Again, I think he&#8217;s a good CB and I wish we kept him, but he is not even in the neighborhood of elite.  Find me one person with football credentials that has ever said he&#8217;s elite.  Go ahead, I&#8217;ll check back.  I&#8217;ve got all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Rican</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2195266</link>
		<dc:creator>Rican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talib IF he stays healthy AND doesnt get into anymore trouble this season WILL cure the Pats secondary woes and WILL help them get another SB victory. Thats all they were missing.
@Hawaiian the pats took a chance on him. 

Two big IFS. If those ifs are met he is most definitely an elite back]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talib IF he stays healthy AND doesnt get into anymore trouble this season WILL cure the Pats secondary woes and WILL help them get another SB victory. Thats all they were missing.<br />
@Hawaiian the pats took a chance on him. </p>
<p>Two big IFS. If those ifs are met he is most definitely an elite back</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2194876</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 17:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all Aqib, you are confusing talent with actual performance.  As for performance on the field, comparing the two is so stupid that I won&#039;t get into a back and forth with you.  You won&#039;t find one person with any football credentials to agree with you that Aqib is better than Ronde.  Maybe he&#039;s better in the underwear Olympics, but last I checked they play with pads on.  Just stop it, because you will never win any argument saying nonsense like that.

You must also have trouble reading, because I said &quot;complete season&quot;.  When you get hurt and only play 10 full games, that&#039;s not a full season.  You can play the &quot;what if&quot; game all you want, but it didn&#039;t happen.  What about his other 4 seasons, was he headed to the Pro Bowl in any of those?  You go ahead and think he&#039;s elite, while the rest of us with brains realize that you don&#039;t get elite CB&#039;s for a fourth round pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Aqib, you are confusing talent with actual performance.  As for performance on the field, comparing the two is so stupid that I won&#8217;t get into a back and forth with you.  You won&#8217;t find one person with any football credentials to agree with you that Aqib is better than Ronde.  Maybe he&#8217;s better in the underwear Olympics, but last I checked they play with pads on.  Just stop it, because you will never win any argument saying nonsense like that.</p>
<p>You must also have trouble reading, because I said &#8220;complete season&#8221;.  When you get hurt and only play 10 full games, that&#8217;s not a full season.  You can play the &#8220;what if&#8221; game all you want, but it didn&#8217;t happen.  What about his other 4 seasons, was he headed to the Pro Bowl in any of those?  You go ahead and think he&#8217;s elite, while the rest of us with brains realize that you don&#8217;t get elite CB&#8217;s for a fourth round pick.</p>
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		<title>By: AqibSwagTalib</title>
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		<dc:creator>AqibSwagTalib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate to go here but every single Bucs fan now is happy Raheem Morris is gone and calls him every bad name in the book. People blame him and his lack of discipline for our ridiculous loosing streak. 

But how do you go from second place in voting for Coach of the Year one year, and the next year you are gone. After all we got for him in free agency was a PUNTER.

Give Morris some players like Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson, and Eric Wright our record may be sitting a little higher.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to go here but every single Bucs fan now is happy Raheem Morris is gone and calls him every bad name in the book. People blame him and his lack of discipline for our ridiculous loosing streak. </p>
<p>But how do you go from second place in voting for Coach of the Year one year, and the next year you are gone. After all we got for him in free agency was a PUNTER.</p>
<p>Give Morris some players like Carl Nicks, Vincent Jackson, and Eric Wright our record may be sitting a little higher.</p>
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		<title>By: AqibSwagTalib</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2194558</link>
		<dc:creator>AqibSwagTalib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@FreemanBomb5 and @Buc&#039;It thank you. I said Aqib is the best corner we have had and I mean that physically as well. I am the biggest Ronde Barber fan in the world, hes a first ballot hall of famer, but even Ronde would admit him and Talib are different animals. Talib&#039;s combination of ball skills, leaping, and length with his swagger make him &quot;physically&quot; the best freak of nature corner we have ever seen.

Also @Hawaiian Buc Aqib has had a Pro Bowl worthy season, 2010 he would have been in line to make the pro bowl had he not suffered a season ending injury at the end of the year. Did everyone forget the game he had agaisnt Washington when he had 3 great picks. What about Arizona when he shut down Larry Fitzgerald and left the game with 2 ints. 

Does everyone realize how much of a problem for other teams Roddy White is, but when he plays the Bucs he only records a catch when #31 is trying to cover him (which never works out well). 

As a fan base I am very dissapointed with the Bucs, we jump ship on our guys way too quickly, and let opinions blind us from seeing the truth on the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FreemanBomb5 and @Buc&#8217;It thank you. I said Aqib is the best corner we have had and I mean that physically as well. I am the biggest Ronde Barber fan in the world, hes a first ballot hall of famer, but even Ronde would admit him and Talib are different animals. Talib&#8217;s combination of ball skills, leaping, and length with his swagger make him &#8220;physically&#8221; the best freak of nature corner we have ever seen.</p>
<p>Also @Hawaiian Buc Aqib has had a Pro Bowl worthy season, 2010 he would have been in line to make the pro bowl had he not suffered a season ending injury at the end of the year. Did everyone forget the game he had agaisnt Washington when he had 3 great picks. What about Arizona when he shut down Larry Fitzgerald and left the game with 2 ints. </p>
<p>Does everyone realize how much of a problem for other teams Roddy White is, but when he plays the Bucs he only records a catch when #31 is trying to cover him (which never works out well). </p>
<p>As a fan base I am very dissapointed with the Bucs, we jump ship on our guys way too quickly, and let opinions blind us from seeing the truth on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2193986</link>
		<dc:creator>Teddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HawaiianBuc, which would you rather have:

A. Athletically-gifted but enigmatic player who you don&#039;t know which version will show up on any given Sunday
B. Self-made player (a euphemism for a guy who isn&#039;t as talented) who devotes his time to his craft and puts every ounce of effort giving his team all he has every Sunday

Aqib Talib was definitely a category A player. Guys like Leonard Johnson fall into category B.  At the end of the day, a team will almost always be more successful long-term with the category B guys, who will give everything they have every time out, guys on whom teammates can put their trust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HawaiianBuc, which would you rather have:</p>
<p>A. Athletically-gifted but enigmatic player who you don&#8217;t know which version will show up on any given Sunday<br />
B. Self-made player (a euphemism for a guy who isn&#8217;t as talented) who devotes his time to his craft and puts every ounce of effort giving his team all he has every Sunday</p>
<p>Aqib Talib was definitely a category A player. Guys like Leonard Johnson fall into category B.  At the end of the day, a team will almost always be more successful long-term with the category B guys, who will give everything they have every time out, guys on whom teammates can put their trust.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76910&#038;cpage=1#comment-2193720</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 10:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a lot of crazy talk on both sides here.  First of all, Aqib Talib is better than many of those corners on his worst day.  Elbert Mack, really?  But to say he&#039;s the best corner we&#039;ve ever had is equally as stupid.  So he&#039;s better than future hall of famer Ronde Barber?  Whatever you are smoking, put it down and immediately check yourself in to the nearest mental hospital.  You, my friend, have problems.

I actually like Talib, and I&#039;m not that crazy about this transaction.  I think he&#039;s the best corner we&#039;ve got on the roster now, and I think he was due to come up with some big plays in the second half of the season.  Even the Aderall doesn&#039;t bother me as much as it does others, nor does the gun incident in Texas.  All that being said, I completely understand why this happened.  I also completely understand why so many fans wanted to see him gone.  I&#039;m pretty lenient with these kind of things, especially if I think he can help us win games (not saying that&#039;s correct, just the way I feel).  But with all of those incidents combined, it&#039;s pretty hard to defend him anymore and I can see why the organization is sick of his shenanigans.  If I were on the inside, I probably would be too.  

He&#039;s a talented player very similar to the way Dez Bryant is a talented player.  Neither will probably ever tap into half of their talent, and most likely they both will go down as players that were more trouble then what they were worth.  Sad, but true.  Talib has been in the league for 5 seasons now, and hasn&#039;t had one complete season Pro Bowl worthy.  That is a fact.  He&#039;s not going to become Darrelle Revis.  If he were, it would have happened already.  No team is going to put their faith in him, ever.  He&#039;s too much of a risk, and before you know it, he will be just be past his prime and no one will want him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot of crazy talk on both sides here.  First of all, Aqib Talib is better than many of those corners on his worst day.  Elbert Mack, really?  But to say he&#8217;s the best corner we&#8217;ve ever had is equally as stupid.  So he&#8217;s better than future hall of famer Ronde Barber?  Whatever you are smoking, put it down and immediately check yourself in to the nearest mental hospital.  You, my friend, have problems.</p>
<p>I actually like Talib, and I&#8217;m not that crazy about this transaction.  I think he&#8217;s the best corner we&#8217;ve got on the roster now, and I think he was due to come up with some big plays in the second half of the season.  Even the Aderall doesn&#8217;t bother me as much as it does others, nor does the gun incident in Texas.  All that being said, I completely understand why this happened.  I also completely understand why so many fans wanted to see him gone.  I&#8217;m pretty lenient with these kind of things, especially if I think he can help us win games (not saying that&#8217;s correct, just the way I feel).  But with all of those incidents combined, it&#8217;s pretty hard to defend him anymore and I can see why the organization is sick of his shenanigans.  If I were on the inside, I probably would be too.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s a talented player very similar to the way Dez Bryant is a talented player.  Neither will probably ever tap into half of their talent, and most likely they both will go down as players that were more trouble then what they were worth.  Sad, but true.  Talib has been in the league for 5 seasons now, and hasn&#8217;t had one complete season Pro Bowl worthy.  That is a fact.  He&#8217;s not going to become Darrelle Revis.  If he were, it would have happened already.  No team is going to put their faith in him, ever.  He&#8217;s too much of a risk, and before you know it, he will be just be past his prime and no one will want him.</p>
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