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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They aren&#039;t undefeated without him because he is the best CB they have and Brees torched them.

Of course, if they get the pass rush going all the DBs get better.

I am on the fence with him.  I can see them keeping him the rest of the year (barring another screw up of ANY sort) but I think he is definately not in the long term plans anymore.  

As of right now - DB and D-Line depth is sorely needed (not to mention O-Line) and Schiano strikes me as the type that will be drafting linemen... alot... every draft.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They aren&#8217;t undefeated without him because he is the best CB they have and Brees torched them.</p>
<p>Of course, if they get the pass rush going all the DBs get better.</p>
<p>I am on the fence with him.  I can see them keeping him the rest of the year (barring another screw up of ANY sort) but I think he is definately not in the long term plans anymore.  </p>
<p>As of right now &#8211; DB and D-Line depth is sorely needed (not to mention O-Line) and Schiano strikes me as the type that will be drafting linemen&#8230; alot&#8230; every draft.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Draft a cornerback in the 1st round, but keep Talib......he&#039;s a serviceable backup and he&#039;s had more good games than bad. Biggers needs to go. Leonard Johnson......let&#039;s see if he keeps it up. Wright.......well he&#039;s made some nice plays this year but still gets beat quite often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Draft a cornerback in the 1st round, but keep Talib&#8230;&#8230;he&#8217;s a serviceable backup and he&#8217;s had more good games than bad. Biggers needs to go. Leonard Johnson&#8230;&#8230;let&#8217;s see if he keeps it up. Wright&#8230;&#8230;.well he&#8217;s made some nice plays this year but still gets beat quite often.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EJ Biggers is god awful and Eric Wright played horrible last night. He was RIGHT IN FRONT of a Vikings receivers and still got burned!  And Biggers just can&#039;t cover. 

I see us taking a CB in the 1st round next spring. But right now, we&#039;ve still got a season. I could see us going 9-7.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EJ Biggers is god awful and Eric Wright played horrible last night. He was RIGHT IN FRONT of a Vikings receivers and still got burned!  And Biggers just can&#8217;t cover. </p>
<p>I see us taking a CB in the 1st round next spring. But right now, we&#8217;ve still got a season. I could see us going 9-7.</p>
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		<title>By: FreemanBomb5</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreemanBomb5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree completely with AqibSwagTalib... Talib has owned Roddy, Steve Smith, Greg Jennings, Fitz, amongst other elite receivers over the past 4 seasons. Everyone just loves to hate the kid, damn shame if he leaves after this season only to be embraced by Dallas, NY, GB, SF, or another NFC team that ends up getting his best years of service.

One bad game against Hakeem Nicks doesn&#039;t erase almost an entire rookie contract worth of solid production. Pretty sure not too many corners without safety help on an island would give up some big yardage to Nicks also.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely with AqibSwagTalib&#8230; Talib has owned Roddy, Steve Smith, Greg Jennings, Fitz, amongst other elite receivers over the past 4 seasons. Everyone just loves to hate the kid, damn shame if he leaves after this season only to be embraced by Dallas, NY, GB, SF, or another NFC team that ends up getting his best years of service.</p>
<p>One bad game against Hakeem Nicks doesn&#8217;t erase almost an entire rookie contract worth of solid production. Pretty sure not too many corners without safety help on an island would give up some big yardage to Nicks also.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shut down corner....lol...end credibility there...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shut down corner&#8230;.lol&#8230;end credibility there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AqibSwagTalib</title>
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		<dc:creator>AqibSwagTalib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@robert that was one of the most foolish comments I have ever seen. Biggers has outplayed Aqib Talib? Stop it. A fast guy who gambles? Talib is not known for his speed, he is known for being a tall corner with long arms who can get physical with receivers. If Biggers was one on one with Hakeem Nicks all day we might as well just put no one on him. Do you not remember Biggers getting tossed around like a rag doll last year, think Brandon Lafell? Does anyone remember the Cardinals game in 2010 when Aqib shut down Larry Fitzgerald ending the game with 2 ints? Anyone remember the Packers game when Talib held Jennings to 2 catches for 6 yards? Aqib has proven to us that he is a shutdown corner, we just let the mistakes he put in the newspapers blind us from seeing the great player he is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@robert that was one of the most foolish comments I have ever seen. Biggers has outplayed Aqib Talib? Stop it. A fast guy who gambles? Talib is not known for his speed, he is known for being a tall corner with long arms who can get physical with receivers. If Biggers was one on one with Hakeem Nicks all day we might as well just put no one on him. Do you not remember Biggers getting tossed around like a rag doll last year, think Brandon Lafell? Does anyone remember the Cardinals game in 2010 when Aqib shut down Larry Fitzgerald ending the game with 2 ints? Anyone remember the Packers game when Talib held Jennings to 2 catches for 6 yards? Aqib has proven to us that he is a shutdown corner, we just let the mistakes he put in the newspapers blind us from seeing the great player he is.</p>
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		<title>By: AqibSwagTalib</title>
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		<dc:creator>AqibSwagTalib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please dont jump the gun after we play Brady Quinn and Christian Ponder. Lets fact it Aqib is the best corner we have, and may be one of the most underrated corners in the league. Give heat to where heat is due, to EJ Biggers and Brandon Macdonald who besides a few good plays here and there, routinely get beat. I have watched EJ Biggers dreads running behind people way more times than I have seen him bat balls down. I really hope not only does Aqib return this year, but that we can bring him back after this season. After one good game now all of the sudden Leonard Johnson can fill Talib&#039;s void, lets not kid ourselves no player is as talented as Talib in our secondary, and according to coach the guy has done all of the right stuff. Give Talib and Wright some love because without them playing well, we will be watching other teams play each other come playoff time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please dont jump the gun after we play Brady Quinn and Christian Ponder. Lets fact it Aqib is the best corner we have, and may be one of the most underrated corners in the league. Give heat to where heat is due, to EJ Biggers and Brandon Macdonald who besides a few good plays here and there, routinely get beat. I have watched EJ Biggers dreads running behind people way more times than I have seen him bat balls down. I really hope not only does Aqib return this year, but that we can bring him back after this season. After one good game now all of the sudden Leonard Johnson can fill Talib&#8217;s void, lets not kid ourselves no player is as talented as Talib in our secondary, and according to coach the guy has done all of the right stuff. Give Talib and Wright some love because without them playing well, we will be watching other teams play each other come playoff time.</p>
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		<title>By: AqibSwagTalib</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=76497&#038;cpage=1#comment-2167593</link>
		<dc:creator>AqibSwagTalib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please dont jump the gun after we play Brady Quinn and Christian Ponder. Lets fact it Aqib is the best corner we have, and may be one of the most underrated corners in the league. Give heat to where heat is due, to EJ Biggers and Brandon Macdonald who besides a few good plays here and there, routinely get beat. I have watched EJ Biggers dreads running behind people way more times than I have seen him bat balls down. I really hope not only does Aqib return this year, but that we can bring him back after this season. After one good game now all of the sudden Leonard Johnson can fill Talib&#039;s void, lets not kid ourselves no player is as talented as Talib in our secondary, and according to coach the guy has done all of the right stuff. Give Talib and Wright some love because without them playing well, we will be watching other teams play each other come playoff time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please dont jump the gun after we play Brady Quinn and Christian Ponder. Lets fact it Aqib is the best corner we have, and may be one of the most underrated corners in the league. Give heat to where heat is due, to EJ Biggers and Brandon Macdonald who besides a few good plays here and there, routinely get beat. I have watched EJ Biggers dreads running behind people way more times than I have seen him bat balls down. I really hope not only does Aqib return this year, but that we can bring him back after this season. After one good game now all of the sudden Leonard Johnson can fill Talib&#8217;s void, lets not kid ourselves no player is as talented as Talib in our secondary, and according to coach the guy has done all of the right stuff. Give Talib and Wright some love because without them playing well, we will be watching other teams play each other come playoff time.</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WTF are people on here talking about. Talib is not that good. Biggers has outplayed him this year, and when he filled in for him in the past. so quickly we forget the giants game where Talib was shown for what he really is. a fast guy who gambles, but not a Great CB. he&#039;s good, but his good is far outweighed by his inconsistentcy. ride the pine and clean your weapon dawg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF are people on here talking about. Talib is not that good. Biggers has outplayed him this year, and when he filled in for him in the past. so quickly we forget the giants game where Talib was shown for what he really is. a fast guy who gambles, but not a Great CB. he&#8217;s good, but his good is far outweighed by his inconsistentcy. ride the pine and clean your weapon dawg.</p>
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		<title>By: bucyea</title>
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		<dc:creator>bucyea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Had Talib been on the field last week, we would, in all likelihood beat the Saints.  I guess with your a$$inine logic, we should not bring back Davin Joseph either.  Lay off the booze!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had Talib been on the field last week, we would, in all likelihood beat the Saints.  I guess with your a$$inine logic, we should not bring back Davin Joseph either.  Lay off the booze!</p>
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		<title>By: Facts Matter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facts Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Joe, Where are the reports about there being a chemistry problem on the team with Talib this year? Has Talib held press conferences demanding the team run defenses the way he likes? Did he give an interview saying the team needed a suggestion box and sit on the sidelines with a towel over his head during games?

Tampa didn&#039;t lose games this season because of Talib. They were competitive with the Giants but the Giants are the Giants aka The Defending Superbowl Champs and Eli is Eli.
Was the 6 pt loss @ Dallas Talib&#039;s fault because of chemistry??
Or was it the 2pt loss to the Redskins that was solely&#039;s Talib&#039;s fault for &quot;chemistry&quot; issues?
And what GOOD DOMINANT PLAYOFF TEAM has Tampa beaten in this 2-1 &quot;magical chemistry&quot; run? Or even if they go 3-1?

Good teams can lose close games. Tampa hasn&#039;t been blown out, but has blown out others. The wins will come, with or without Talib. But they are more likely to come with Talib as the starting CB playing up to his abilities.
What CB is on the trade market who can step right in, and won&#039;t cost a ton  more in draft picks than he&#039;s worth? Have you actually analyzed the rosters of the other 31 teams to see a  possibility - or are you just speculating that someone might be traded for?

You are picking some excessively small nits. And there is no reason to even mention Talib after a good win like this. And I HIGHLY doubt there is anyone out there worth a draft pick - especially as the team is NOT in a win now at all costs year.
Tampa will probably go 3-1 AND Talib will be brought back as the starter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe, Where are the reports about there being a chemistry problem on the team with Talib this year? Has Talib held press conferences demanding the team run defenses the way he likes? Did he give an interview saying the team needed a suggestion box and sit on the sidelines with a towel over his head during games?</p>
<p>Tampa didn&#8217;t lose games this season because of Talib. They were competitive with the Giants but the Giants are the Giants aka The Defending Superbowl Champs and Eli is Eli.<br />
Was the 6 pt loss @ Dallas Talib&#8217;s fault because of chemistry??<br />
Or was it the 2pt loss to the Redskins that was solely&#8217;s Talib&#8217;s fault for &#8220;chemistry&#8221; issues?<br />
And what GOOD DOMINANT PLAYOFF TEAM has Tampa beaten in this 2-1 &#8220;magical chemistry&#8221; run? Or even if they go 3-1?</p>
<p>Good teams can lose close games. Tampa hasn&#8217;t been blown out, but has blown out others. The wins will come, with or without Talib. But they are more likely to come with Talib as the starting CB playing up to his abilities.<br />
What CB is on the trade market who can step right in, and won&#8217;t cost a ton  more in draft picks than he&#8217;s worth? Have you actually analyzed the rosters of the other 31 teams to see a  possibility &#8211; or are you just speculating that someone might be traded for?</p>
<p>You are picking some excessively small nits. And there is no reason to even mention Talib after a good win like this. And I HIGHLY doubt there is anyone out there worth a draft pick &#8211; especially as the team is NOT in a win now at all costs year.<br />
Tampa will probably go 3-1 AND Talib will be brought back as the starter.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@gotbucs,

I disagree with you that he hasn&#039;t been good in run support.  I&#039;m not going to judge him on one play (although on that same play Ronde missed a tackle on AP), especially against the best RB in the league.  Wright leads our CB&#039;s in tackles, so obviously he sticks his nose in there and makes tackles.  He is also tied for the lead in passes defended.  I&#039;m not saying he&#039;s All-Pro, but he&#039;s not garbage.  That&#039;s silly talk right there!  He&#039;s not a #1 CB, but he has played it all season for us (very similar what happened to EJ Biggers much of last year).  

I just don&#039;t understand all the hate this guy gets, and he&#039;s only been here for 7 games.  We have probably the worst pass rush in the NFL, and when that happens, of course the secondary is going to get abused.  One thing you will find that virtually all elite CB&#039;s have in common is a good pass rush.  Give the guy a break and understand what is really going on.  You may also want to lower your expectations a little out there, because he&#039;s not Deion Sanders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gotbucs,</p>
<p>I disagree with you that he hasn&#8217;t been good in run support.  I&#8217;m not going to judge him on one play (although on that same play Ronde missed a tackle on AP), especially against the best RB in the league.  Wright leads our CB&#8217;s in tackles, so obviously he sticks his nose in there and makes tackles.  He is also tied for the lead in passes defended.  I&#8217;m not saying he&#8217;s All-Pro, but he&#8217;s not garbage.  That&#8217;s silly talk right there!  He&#8217;s not a #1 CB, but he has played it all season for us (very similar what happened to EJ Biggers much of last year).  </p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand all the hate this guy gets, and he&#8217;s only been here for 7 games.  We have probably the worst pass rush in the NFL, and when that happens, of course the secondary is going to get abused.  One thing you will find that virtually all elite CB&#8217;s have in common is a good pass rush.  Give the guy a break and understand what is really going on.  You may also want to lower your expectations a little out there, because he&#8217;s not Deion Sanders.</p>
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