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	<title>Comments on: What About The Clean Slate?</title>
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		<title>By: McBuc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=75635&#038;cpage=1#comment-2135055</link>
		<dc:creator>McBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Miguel, did you ever think that failing a drug test without a n RX tends to be a clean cut case, there is no reason to appeal someting you have no chance at winning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miguel, did you ever think that failing a drug test without a n RX tends to be a clean cut case, there is no reason to appeal someting you have no chance at winning.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=75635&#038;cpage=1#comment-2133903</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you 100% on this one Joe. Skill wise, he&#039;s our best CB (although he often plays like our 3rd best CB).  We are a team that struggles mightily against the pass, so it wouldn&#039;t be incredibly bright to make our secondary worse by cutting Talib.  The Aderall thing really doesn&#039;t bother me that much, especially as compared to punching cab drivers and shooting at people.  In that regard, this is like him doing charity work.  I&#039;m all about us winning as many games as possible.  Unless he&#039;s a bad teammate or a problem to the coaches, I see no reason for him to leave.  Although it&#039;s not fair, when  you have talent, you get a different set of rules.  It&#039;s not just us, it&#039;s everyone, and not only in football.  When I played sports, I was never that guy, but I sure as hell understood that the better players had a longer leash.  I was okay with it because I have common sense, and I suspect the other players on the Bucs feel the same way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you 100% on this one Joe. Skill wise, he&#8217;s our best CB (although he often plays like our 3rd best CB).  We are a team that struggles mightily against the pass, so it wouldn&#8217;t be incredibly bright to make our secondary worse by cutting Talib.  The Aderall thing really doesn&#8217;t bother me that much, especially as compared to punching cab drivers and shooting at people.  In that regard, this is like him doing charity work.  I&#8217;m all about us winning as many games as possible.  Unless he&#8217;s a bad teammate or a problem to the coaches, I see no reason for him to leave.  Although it&#8217;s not fair, when  you have talent, you get a different set of rules.  It&#8217;s not just us, it&#8217;s everyone, and not only in football.  When I played sports, I was never that guy, but I sure as hell understood that the better players had a longer leash.  I was okay with it because I have common sense, and I suspect the other players on the Bucs feel the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=75635&#038;cpage=1#comment-2133343</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe i would strongly suggest removing Miquel as commenter if not for anything than as good business decision. just seeing his name makes this site a little more off putting. not going to tell you how to run your site, just thought you would like some honest feedback from a person who is a fan of your website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe i would strongly suggest removing Miquel as commenter if not for anything than as good business decision. just seeing his name makes this site a little more off putting. not going to tell you how to run your site, just thought you would like some honest feedback from a person who is a fan of your website.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=75635&#038;cpage=1#comment-2132960</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First thing: JOE, I know you won&#039;t ban someone upon request, but I would REALLY appreciate if you would put the phrase &quot;dreading the 110X16 torture tests&quot; through the filter so we see &quot;the ****** ***** ****  ****&quot; instead.

Take a poll and see how many vote to block that phrase, lol.

Second, the way I see it, Talib HAD a clean slate...and blew it the moment he stepped into camp. On that day he chose to break the rules and break the law...again.

Thirdly, how many time has Talib got off with minor consequences? When does it become more about what&#039;s best for him rather than what&#039;s best in the eyes of the fans or team? He NEEDS to pay a steeper penalty. Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First thing: JOE, I know you won&#8217;t ban someone upon request, but I would REALLY appreciate if you would put the phrase &#8220;dreading the 110X16 torture tests&#8221; through the filter so we see &#8220;the ****** ***** ****  ****&#8221; instead.</p>
<p>Take a poll and see how many vote to block that phrase, lol.</p>
<p>Second, the way I see it, Talib HAD a clean slate&#8230;and blew it the moment he stepped into camp. On that day he chose to break the rules and break the law&#8230;again.</p>
<p>Thirdly, how many time has Talib got off with minor consequences? When does it become more about what&#8217;s best for him rather than what&#8217;s best in the eyes of the fans or team? He NEEDS to pay a steeper penalty. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel El Magnifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel El Magnifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keith Says:
&quot;There’s nothing smelly, and he won’t lose the “other half.” Don’t make up stuff.&quot;

7/25/2008: Signed a five-year, $14 million contract. The deal includes $8.2 million guaranteed. 2012: $1,852,500, 2013: Free Agent

If Talib was cut on Saturday, he would have lost 3/4 of his 2012 salary or $1,389,375. There is no possible way his agent and lawyer would possibly allow him to take that chance. 

They would advise him to appeal the suspension until after the 12th game limiting his exposure to $463,125. 

They cut a deal, silence for a clean slate.

**&lt;em&gt;Miguel. You&#039;re surely wrong here. Any veteran with a contract like Talib who makes the roster typically has his contract guaranteed automatically when the season starts. --Joe&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith Says:<br />
&#8220;There’s nothing smelly, and he won’t lose the “other half.” Don’t make up stuff.&#8221;</p>
<p>7/25/2008: Signed a five-year, $14 million contract. The deal includes $8.2 million guaranteed. 2012: $1,852,500, 2013: Free Agent</p>
<p>If Talib was cut on Saturday, he would have lost 3/4 of his 2012 salary or $1,389,375. There is no possible way his agent and lawyer would possibly allow him to take that chance. </p>
<p>They would advise him to appeal the suspension until after the 12th game limiting his exposure to $463,125. </p>
<p>They cut a deal, silence for a clean slate.</p>
<p>**<em>Miguel. You&#8217;re surely wrong here. Any veteran with a contract like Talib who makes the roster typically has his contract guaranteed automatically when the season starts. &#8211;Joe</em></p>
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		<title>By: Pruritis Ani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pruritis Ani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, if we make an excuse for him and ANOTHER clean slate is given to him, where does it stop? What happens when some other idiot on the team gets into trouble.. do we give them a clean slate too? This Adderall business is nothing compared to when he assaulted a FHP officer, or when he punched fellow teammate, or when he assaulted taxi driver, or when he took a shot at his sister&#039;s boyfriend. There are probably a myriad of other things he&#039;s done that we don&#039;t even know about.

For those that are worried he&#039;ll end up on another team.. So what? Do you really think he will last without being suspended for something else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, if we make an excuse for him and ANOTHER clean slate is given to him, where does it stop? What happens when some other idiot on the team gets into trouble.. do we give them a clean slate too? This Adderall business is nothing compared to when he assaulted a FHP officer, or when he punched fellow teammate, or when he assaulted taxi driver, or when he took a shot at his sister&#8217;s boyfriend. There are probably a myriad of other things he&#8217;s done that we don&#8217;t even know about.</p>
<p>For those that are worried he&#8217;ll end up on another team.. So what? Do you really think he will last without being suspended for something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s nothing smelly, and he won&#039;t lose the &quot;other half.&quot; Don&#039;t make up stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing smelly, and he won&#8217;t lose the &#8220;other half.&#8221; Don&#8217;t make up stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel El Magnifico</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=75635&#038;cpage=1#comment-2132674</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel El Magnifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another nail in the coffin, why would his agent and attorney agree to drop his appeal after only being paid 1/4 of his salary and risk losing the other half ($800,000)?

Answer, they never would in a million years without a behind the door deal guarantying his roster spot, salary and possible re-compensation in return for their playing ball and keeping their mouth&#039;s shut.

This whole story smells to high heaven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another nail in the coffin, why would his agent and attorney agree to drop his appeal after only being paid 1/4 of his salary and risk losing the other half ($800,000)?</p>
<p>Answer, they never would in a million years without a behind the door deal guarantying his roster spot, salary and possible re-compensation in return for their playing ball and keeping their mouth&#8217;s shut.</p>
<p>This whole story smells to high heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: McBuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>McBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Sneedy...What a hoot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sneedy&#8230;What a hoot!</p>
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		<title>By: Sneedy16</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sneedy16</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Miguel

You always seem to amaze me with your wind sprints conspiracy theory. I don&#039;t even get mad anymore. I just read, laugh, and move on. I really appreciate it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Miguel</p>
<p>You always seem to amaze me with your wind sprints conspiracy theory. I don&#8217;t even get mad anymore. I just read, laugh, and move on. I really appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: 1976Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>1976Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a player of the game (many years ago) and more importantly a fan it disgusts me to think that some fans believe it is ok to do whatever it takes to win. Even taking banned substances. I hope Larry does not take this approach with his children. If it&#039;s no big deal go to the Dr and get a script like every other patient legally taking a drug. I would be immediately suspended from my work and put on probation for at least 6 months with frequent random drug testing. Why should we expect any less from athletes paid millions of dollars to do something the rest of the world considers a game?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a player of the game (many years ago) and more importantly a fan it disgusts me to think that some fans believe it is ok to do whatever it takes to win. Even taking banned substances. I hope Larry does not take this approach with his children. If it&#8217;s no big deal go to the Dr and get a script like every other patient legally taking a drug. I would be immediately suspended from my work and put on probation for at least 6 months with frequent random drug testing. Why should we expect any less from athletes paid millions of dollars to do something the rest of the world considers a game?</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel El Magnifico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel El Magnifico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lev Says:
October 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm

&quot;I used to take ADHD pills before running. If I wouldn’t take them I would only go 3 miles and if I did take them I would go 9 miles. In my experience, it stimulates the mind in a way in-which you become mentally numb to extreme physical activity.&quot;

Your Honor, I rest my case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lev Says:<br />
October 16th, 2012 at 1:23 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;I used to take ADHD pills before running. If I wouldn’t take them I would only go 3 miles and if I did take them I would go 9 miles. In my experience, it stimulates the mind in a way in-which you become mentally numb to extreme physical activity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your Honor, I rest my case.</p>
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