Comments on: Getting Doug Martin Loose

By: OAR

OAR — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:47:24 +0000

SteveK
Funny, but Ozzie’s first 4 years at drafting are very similar to Dominik’s first 4 years. Now Ozzie’s last 6 years have been great, but what makes you so sure Dominik doesn’t learn from any draft mistakes and do the same?
BTW Ray Lewis wasn’t an Ozzie pick.

By: 1976Buc

1976Buc — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 20:45:51 +0000

SteveK, I agree we haven’t had a great track record with our high draft picks. I do think it’s too early to tell for Freeman or Martin.

By: Ladyz

Ladyz — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:54:14 +0000

@stevek. Love it!

By: Ladyz

Ladyz — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:52:00 +0000

I agree that(1)Free has to be mobil and more consistent connecting (2) Blunt has to be given the ball more – he’s a beast(3) Martin just used on 3rd downs (4) OC needs to call better plays (5) Schiano needs to set the right butts on the bench. No more would-of, could-of, should-of…..that’s for those who-dats ! Go Bucs !

By: SteveK

SteveK — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:48:50 +0000

@1976 Buc,

Martin isn’t the only former 1st round pick, that we traded up to get, that is sucking!

Look at the 4th year clueless wonder taking the snaps.

By: SteveK

SteveK — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:47:59 +0000

@ Eric, FLMike, and All,

The main difference with the Bucs and the Ravens isn’t the coach or the players.

Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Ngata, Flacco, Torrey Smith, Ray Rice and crew are only a product of a greater power.

The GM. Ozzie Newsome is the difference. He is the man who makes all the right picks. The Ravens are a great team.

Dom is not Ozzie Newsome, not in the office, nor athletically. Dom couldn’t carry Newsome’s coffee.

By: bucbucbuc

bucbucbuc — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:46:12 +0000

Doug Martin has more rushing yards than Trent Richardson this season.

While yards doesn’t tell the whole story (Martin got more carries after all), this just shows you that you can’t jump to conclusions that we wasted a first round pick after 4 games.

Give it a full season and then evaluate the decision.

By: 1976Buc

1976Buc — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:15:56 +0000

Again, Martin was not drafted 1st round to be a complimentary back to Blount or anyone else. If he was the Bucs wasted a 1st round pick. After this year Blount will be a free agent. All we can hope is that he doesn’t sign with a team in our division.

By: gotbbucs

gotbbucs — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:59:36 +0000

941-Bucs,
I have been screaming that exact same thing for four weeks now. Unfortunately. I think I’ll still be screaming it come week 16.
Doug Martin is not Ray Rice, and I don’t think he ever will be based on what I’ve seen so far. A running back is exactly what you see on tape, very rarely can they change their style or skills. Either they have it or they don’t. Martin has just enough to be a solid 3rd down back. Nothing wrong with that, they just need to adjust the scheme to take more advantage of his skills as a reciever.

By: gotbbucs

gotbbucs — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:51:55 +0000

@ SteveK

Amazingly, it really is that simple.

By: SteveK

SteveK — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:26:50 +0000

Get Freeman out of the pocket, and let’s see more Blount.

By: 941-Bucs

941-Bucs — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:16:16 +0000

The whole thing has me peeved! First off how is Ware in over Blount ? Ware was a career 3rd string back. Personally i didn’t even know he existed.

Second of Martin has shown me nothing to make me feel comfortable with him as a starting RB in the NFL. Sure he has a quick burst and decent agility. But he hasn’t done much more in the passing game then i have seen from Blount the Last 3 years. Even if he does manage to get in front of a charging LBer. He normally gets bulled over. Same can be said with his Running, the moment he gets touched he drops to the ground.

Blount has proven he deserves touches and now Schiano has a fan base who is clambering for him daily. Simple logic, Put Blount as the 1 and 2nd down RB and have Martin be the 3rd down option. Obviously they can be interchanged for split carries. This seems to be a no brianer when you consider their running style and size difference.

Since we drafted Martin i have felt he should be a compliment to Blount NOT be a Bell Cow. Blount was never a short yardage back because of the way he runs. But he is nearly impossible to bring down. Martin on the other hand, has a better pass pro and can get that short yardage consistently ( well that’s about all he can get). So it seems obvious to me where they belong. I don’t know why Schiano has turned a Blind eye to this factor.