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		<title>By: Facts Matter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facts Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@SteveK
&quot;2010 form&quot; would have won those games?! Tampa showed that year that luck and a last place schedule can get a lot of cheap meaningless wins. 
Week 1 Beat Cleveland 17-14. Bucs offense - 49 yrd FG. Short field TD after a Barber 64 INT return to the Cleveland 3 yard line. The other TD the drive started at the Cleveland 47 after a punt return. Cleveland was a 5-11 team that year. In other words, the Tampa offense traveled 50 yards combined for its 2 TDs.
Week 2 Beat the Panthers 20-7. The 2-14 Panthers. 
Week 3 Got stomped by the Steelers 38-13.  The 12-4 Steelers.

Which offense was better through 3 games?
Tampa beat only 1 team with a winning record - and that was because the Saints in the last game of the season decided to pull Brees and sent Chase Daniels in while at the Tampa 37 after a fumble recovery. Something that would never happen if the game was important.
Beating bottom of the draft order teams - with injured QBs or backup QBs or getting a 1pt win because of a missed extra point does not scream a GOOD OFFENSE.
The proof the &quot;2010 form&quot; wasn&#039;t ever good - 2009 and 2011. Don&#039;t be blinded by cheap Wins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SteveK<br />
&#8220;2010 form&#8221; would have won those games?! Tampa showed that year that luck and a last place schedule can get a lot of cheap meaningless wins.<br />
Week 1 Beat Cleveland 17-14. Bucs offense &#8211; 49 yrd FG. Short field TD after a Barber 64 INT return to the Cleveland 3 yard line. The other TD the drive started at the Cleveland 47 after a punt return. Cleveland was a 5-11 team that year. In other words, the Tampa offense traveled 50 yards combined for its 2 TDs.<br />
Week 2 Beat the Panthers 20-7. The 2-14 Panthers.<br />
Week 3 Got stomped by the Steelers 38-13.  The 12-4 Steelers.</p>
<p>Which offense was better through 3 games?<br />
Tampa beat only 1 team with a winning record &#8211; and that was because the Saints in the last game of the season decided to pull Brees and sent Chase Daniels in while at the Tampa 37 after a fumble recovery. Something that would never happen if the game was important.<br />
Beating bottom of the draft order teams &#8211; with injured QBs or backup QBs or getting a 1pt win because of a missed extra point does not scream a GOOD OFFENSE.<br />
The proof the &#8220;2010 form&#8221; wasn&#8217;t ever good &#8211; 2009 and 2011. Don&#8217;t be blinded by cheap Wins.</p>
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		<title>By: 1976Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>1976Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s see...down 2 scores...3rd and long...and you don&#039;t think any other QB in the league would have called that play? On that my friend we agree!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;down 2 scores&#8230;3rd and long&#8230;and you don&#8217;t think any other QB in the league would have called that play? On that my friend we agree!</p>
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		<title>By: BucFan20</title>
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		<dc:creator>BucFan20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a real shame some of you never get to hear the interviews done with the Players, Coach and Freeman done on local TV here in Tampa.
1. Coach Says ( paraphrase) Freeman can run. He has no problem as long as he slides the proper way. Ie no hurdle. slide feet first not head first. other wise he has a problem.
2. We must do better to win during the learning curve. 
3. Freeman Says &quot;The terminology, hicups&quot; and things like that are worked out in OTA&#039;s, Training Camp and Preseason. It&#039;s just like some passes may be a little longer than others..
4. Williams. It&#039;s not the system. It&#039;s just we need to get open for him.
 I think Benn made comments last week too but I don&#039;t remember. 
That&#039;s just a little a lot of you never hear. 

So we have a QB that can change plays. Can run. And has the brains to call a run play on 3rd and long. I really don&#039;t think any other QB in the NFL would have called that play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a real shame some of you never get to hear the interviews done with the Players, Coach and Freeman done on local TV here in Tampa.<br />
1. Coach Says ( paraphrase) Freeman can run. He has no problem as long as he slides the proper way. Ie no hurdle. slide feet first not head first. other wise he has a problem.<br />
2. We must do better to win during the learning curve.<br />
3. Freeman Says &#8220;The terminology, hicups&#8221; and things like that are worked out in OTA&#8217;s, Training Camp and Preseason. It&#8217;s just like some passes may be a little longer than others..<br />
4. Williams. It&#8217;s not the system. It&#8217;s just we need to get open for him.<br />
 I think Benn made comments last week too but I don&#8217;t remember.<br />
That&#8217;s just a little a lot of you never hear. </p>
<p>So we have a QB that can change plays. Can run. And has the brains to call a run play on 3rd and long. I really don&#8217;t think any other QB in the NFL would have called that play.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yea just win baby, one superbowl since 76. all the aquisitions on offense the great draft and we get this! sorry time is not on their side. sullivans playcalling is atrocious, and i know schiano&#039;s got his thumbprint on that as well. after 4 years of playing QB in the NFL, diffrent system, give me a break.its a new system for quite a few QBs this year out of collage. just look at his numbers and other quarterbacks with the same amount of time in this game or less.get my point? if the offense continues to struggle and blackouts at home are the norm i am afraid we will lose our team and they will be sold eventually.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea just win baby, one superbowl since 76. all the aquisitions on offense the great draft and we get this! sorry time is not on their side. sullivans playcalling is atrocious, and i know schiano&#8217;s got his thumbprint on that as well. after 4 years of playing QB in the NFL, diffrent system, give me a break.its a new system for quite a few QBs this year out of collage. just look at his numbers and other quarterbacks with the same amount of time in this game or less.get my point? if the offense continues to struggle and blackouts at home are the norm i am afraid we will lose our team and they will be sold eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: sneedy16</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before complaining I&#039;ll wait until the season is over before I pass judgement on Freeman. If he improves then that&#039;s great if he stays bad then future backup and draft a QB in the first round.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before complaining I&#8217;ll wait until the season is over before I pass judgement on Freeman. If he improves then that&#8217;s great if he stays bad then future backup and draft a QB in the first round.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both Have a Nice Day and Facts Matter are spot on.

This is why I said earlier this week that I&#039;m not worried. I KNOW this offense will start to &quot;click&quot; at some point. Offense is more complicated to learn than defense. 

Both Schiano and Sullivan said they were going to rebuild from the ground up. It&#039;s not their fault the &quot;win now&quot; fans chose to ignore that warning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Have a Nice Day and Facts Matter are spot on.</p>
<p>This is why I said earlier this week that I&#8217;m not worried. I KNOW this offense will start to &#8220;click&#8221; at some point. Offense is more complicated to learn than defense. </p>
<p>Both Schiano and Sullivan said they were going to rebuild from the ground up. It&#8217;s not their fault the &#8220;win now&#8221; fans chose to ignore that warning.</p>
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		<title>By: MadMax</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadMax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, SCREW winning time of possession....win the PLAY, win the SERIES, thats how you win close games! This is the NFL! Trying to win time of possession means getting complacent which leads to contempt. I can understand using it if near the end of a game, but at any other time HELL NO!!! WIN THE GAME!! DESIGN SOME PLAYS AND UNLEASH OUR TALENT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, SCREW winning time of possession&#8230;.win the PLAY, win the SERIES, thats how you win close games! This is the NFL! Trying to win time of possession means getting complacent which leads to contempt. I can understand using it if near the end of a game, but at any other time HELL NO!!! WIN THE GAME!! DESIGN SOME PLAYS AND UNLEASH OUR TALENT!</p>
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		<title>By: SteveK</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Facts Matter, 

Freeman needs to perform better, period. 

We would&#039;ve won those games if our offense was in 2010 form to say the least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Facts Matter, </p>
<p>Freeman needs to perform better, period. </p>
<p>We would&#8217;ve won those games if our offense was in 2010 form to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Facts Matter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facts Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guarantee none of the posters above commenting on the Rutgers offense this year have ever really followed the team - and what it is doing with players recruited by Schiano.
High powered offenses is nothing new.
Rutgers was the only school in college football history to have a 3,000 yard passer (Mike Teel), 2,000 yard rusher (Ray Rice), and TWO 1,000 yard recievers (Kenny Britt and Tiquan Underwood) in the same season (2007).

@Joe
I swear you and the majority of Tampa fans are now expecting a top-level playoff-caliber team right off the bat. Losing by a touchdown on the road to the Giants and Cowboys - and being in the games till the very end is 
Tampa experiencing growing pains. From the roster, to roles, to understanding how to play.
You need to look at the Giants to understand what Sullivan is doing with Tampa. It&#039;s the most complicated offense in the NFL. There are pre- and post-snap reads and adjustments. It is not the Dallas &quot;Run exactly 7 yards then turn&quot; timing style offense. The QB and receivers have to be on the exact same page with how they are seeing the defense and make the same decisions.
It can take receivers on the Giants two or more years to understand it.

Eli is given several plays, and based on what he sees the defense doing, will choose one of them. Obviously, Freeman is not comfortable yet in his newest offense. At Dallas, with headset problems and in a time crunch he called a run play while the game was on the line on a 3rd and long. Hopefully he learns from that and starts thinking about what plays to call on his own if he has to do it again.
Another thing the Giants do is on run plays, the QB reads the defensive alignments, identifies the Mike, makes run checks, etc. It&#039;s not &quot;hand the ball off and let the rb make a play&quot;.
Freeman is having to handle more responsibility than he had in previous seasons. It takes time to be completely comfortable.

What will happen is suddenly everything will CLICK, and you&#039;ll be writing how everything was changed to produce the result when it was nothing but repitition until it was done right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guarantee none of the posters above commenting on the Rutgers offense this year have ever really followed the team &#8211; and what it is doing with players recruited by Schiano.<br />
High powered offenses is nothing new.<br />
Rutgers was the only school in college football history to have a 3,000 yard passer (Mike Teel), 2,000 yard rusher (Ray Rice), and TWO 1,000 yard recievers (Kenny Britt and Tiquan Underwood) in the same season (2007).</p>
<p>@Joe<br />
I swear you and the majority of Tampa fans are now expecting a top-level playoff-caliber team right off the bat. Losing by a touchdown on the road to the Giants and Cowboys &#8211; and being in the games till the very end is<br />
Tampa experiencing growing pains. From the roster, to roles, to understanding how to play.<br />
You need to look at the Giants to understand what Sullivan is doing with Tampa. It&#8217;s the most complicated offense in the NFL. There are pre- and post-snap reads and adjustments. It is not the Dallas &#8220;Run exactly 7 yards then turn&#8221; timing style offense. The QB and receivers have to be on the exact same page with how they are seeing the defense and make the same decisions.<br />
It can take receivers on the Giants two or more years to understand it.</p>
<p>Eli is given several plays, and based on what he sees the defense doing, will choose one of them. Obviously, Freeman is not comfortable yet in his newest offense. At Dallas, with headset problems and in a time crunch he called a run play while the game was on the line on a 3rd and long. Hopefully he learns from that and starts thinking about what plays to call on his own if he has to do it again.<br />
Another thing the Giants do is on run plays, the QB reads the defensive alignments, identifies the Mike, makes run checks, etc. It&#8217;s not &#8220;hand the ball off and let the rb make a play&#8221;.<br />
Freeman is having to handle more responsibility than he had in previous seasons. It takes time to be completely comfortable.</p>
<p>What will happen is suddenly everything will CLICK, and you&#8217;ll be writing how everything was changed to produce the result when it was nothing but repitition until it was done right.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^ HA! thats exactly what I thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ HA! thats exactly what I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Anyone paying attention to how good Rutgers looks this year&quot;

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No]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone paying attention to how good Rutgers looks this year&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>No</p>
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		<title>By: bucfanjeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>bucfanjeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m telling you....4 or 5 WR sets once in a while. 
I find it hard to believe there is a team that can successfully cover vjax, Williams, benn, tiq, and Clark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m telling you&#8230;.4 or 5 WR sets once in a while.<br />
I find it hard to believe there is a team that can successfully cover vjax, Williams, benn, tiq, and Clark.</p>
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