Comments on: Schiano Wants Blount To See More “Action”

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:07:23 +0000

Joe -

C’mon man. Stop force-feeding us Blount stories.

Many of us are really getting sick of it.

By: Jbrooks8604

Jbrooks8604 — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:08:11 +0000

Yep gotbucs I agree. As I posted above with the receiving tight ends we have, our mediocre fullback, and the personnel on our o-line I think this team is tailor made to spread defenses out and run out of single back. Get rid of the weak blockers in the TE’s and fullback and force teams to stop loading the box on us. I won’t reiterate my whole thoughts because it was a lot of writing before, I’ll just say that I think all the power formations we use is working against the personnel we have.

By: gotbbucs

gotbbucs — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 05:32:48 +0000

Been busy but I finally just got a chance to re-watch the game and there’s a few things I just wanted to say. We could have had a couple of really big plays out of our running game, had Dallas Clark not completely whiffed on his blocks. I’m sorry, but he is wasting a roster spot right now. Whatever he had at Indy is long gone. We don’t have a single TE on our roster that is worth a poop at in-line run blocking or even at just holding their ground at the point. I would seriously consider releasing Clark soon, and I’m not being over dramatic about that either.

The first sack that Freeman took on that three step drop, where he just stood there and Ware drilled him from behind…..all Mike Williams fault. Williams was supposed to run a hot route slant and I think Freeman could not beleive that he just jogged off the line looking like he had no idea what the play was. Had he run his route he would still be running because the backside safety blitzed and there was nobody there between him and the endzone. Mike Williams has serious issues against press coverage, he looks like a boy fighting with men whenever he is jammed at the line. That will be a serious problem moving forward for him.

Something just looks completely off with our whole run blocking scheme. we don’t have the horses up front to just maul guys one on one besides for Nicks and sometimes Penn. Zuttah can’t do it and Larsen certainly can’t. In 2010 when we had this issue running the ball we switched to alot of zone concepts and pulled our guards alot more and attacked the edges. They need to go back to that style I think for the ground game to turn around. It’s just too hard to run up the gut consistently in the NFL. Lorig is better at kicking out DE’s than he is at trying to decipher the right hole to hut for our RB’s.

By: Jbrooks8604

Jbrooks8604 — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 05:02:34 +0000

Well Ander my running theory is that Schiano is REAL big on not turning the ball over. Every coach hates it but Schiano fears it, he loathed it, he won’t accept it and he does everything in his power to stop turnovers from happening. That’s why we have cut so many punt returners so far this season, it’s why we have the second least amount of passing attempts and it’s why Blount doesn’t play (last years fumbling issues). That’s why He is so hesitant to take Martin out, because he has never had an issue securing the ball. I imagine it will pass though. Schianos new to this head coaching thing and he’s been out of the NFL for a long time. His philosophy will change because he’s not stupid and probably already realizes you can’t play that conservative, ball security over everything style anymore and survive.

By: Have A Nice Day

Have A Nice Day — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 05:01:14 +0000

Of all the media rubbish floating around this week, I think the soon-to-be-starting play of Te’o-Nesheim should be forefront.

He has shown big time play as well as big time gaffs. Clayborn may not have been a huge impact so far this year, but he wasn’t hurting the line either. Te’o-Nesheim may aid or break that side of the line.

By: ander33

ander33 — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:28:43 +0000

off topic i think its hilarious how we are number one in stopping the run and last in our passing defense. but needless to say use blount didnt we learn from cadillac not to use these rookie running backs at whole lot its pathetic how much their using martin.

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:15:25 +0000

ElioT:

How have we not heard your take(s) on the new DE Charleston? Is this guy gonna be able to contribute or is he just a depth signing?

Joe really has no take on the guy. Remember, Joe is about topics, not transactions. It's hard for Joe to get worked up over a guy who was walking the streets in late September. Joe always has to ask himself, "If the guy really could contribute, why did 31 other teams also pass on him and why was he walking the streets?"

By: gotbbucs

gotbbucs — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:33:01 +0000

You might be right Hawaiian, I think they sent him for an MRI on that Monday, it came back clear, and he practiced the next day.
I’m hoping Schiano was just using that as an excuse for his OC forgeting that Blount was even on the team. What Blount needs to do is get that ridiculous baseball cap off, keep his helmet on, and stand no less than 5 feet away from Sullivan for the entire game.
Honestly, there’s no excuse for why Martin and Blount aren’t going every other series to start the game and seeing who’s more effective early on. And even after one establishes himself to be more effective, the other should still be getting two or three carries in a row here and there.
At some point the training wheels need to come off of this offense and some chances need to be taken. I just hope it happens before we dig ourselves into a playoff race hole that we can’t climb out of. The NFC is up for grabs this year and I’m really hoping we haven’t screwed ourselves these last two weeks.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:05:54 +0000

@gotbbucs,

Not to say that it’s not full of crap, but Blount definitely was on the injury report for the Giants game. I think he was listed as probable, but he was on it. I don’t believe he was on it for the Cowgirls game though.

I think we are going to see a lot more of Blount on Sunday, unless he really struggles early. Unfortunately as a backup, that’s the way it normally is. Regardless, Bangkok Buc is absolutely right. If we don’t establish a passing game, we aren’t going to run the ball effectively. Teams are putting 8 in the box on us on a regular basis. This needs to be one of those games where Freeman puts the ball in the air 35 times, just to strike some fear in defensive coordinators.

By: Jbrooks8604

Jbrooks8604 — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:03:09 +0000

Hawaiian good point on Lorig. He’s not terrible but he’s not that great either. If you are trying to field the best 11 I find it hard to believe Lorig would be on the field. I have long wondered if part of our folly is using power sets so often. Two TE’s, fullbacks or what have you. Looking at our personnel I feel like our team is really geared toward spreading the defense out and running a single back primarily. I think it would help the running game by forcing teams to stop loading the box which would also make it easier for our lineman to figure out their blocking assignments. So why are we in these power sets with a mediocre fullback and receiving tight ends who are sub par blockers?

Plus this is perfect for Blount and Martin who both thrive in the open field. Yes Martin and Blount can both run between tackles but that’s not there strength. Doug Martin uses his quickness and agility to gash defenses and when the box is crowded and clogged he can’t do that. And we all know blout is best when he is at full speed breaking arm tackles and hurdling defenders in the open field. Again if the box is crowded and clogged he can’t do that.

Today Schiano claimed tha he didn’t want to necessarily be a run first team, he just wants to run the ball effectively when he does run. I remember him saying he specifically wanted to focus on running the ball so maybe that was his way of backing off of that and moving towards the NFL norm of a more 60/40 split pass to run. I just feel it’s necessary seeing as though right now we are dead last overall on offense, second to last in passing attempts, and dead last in first downs. We are 13th in rushing attempts yet we are the only team with more runs than passes that isn’t in the top 10 in rushing around the league. In fact we are 21st in rushing.

Looks like we are banging our heads against a wall with this insane resistance to pass the ball. again the best way to pass successfully is to run successfully and the best way to run successfully is to pass successfully. The days of lining up and running up the gut until your opponent breaks is long gone. To get this two headed monster that Schiano keeps talking about but has yet to show going, we need to have a respected run game and we have to use our personnel to our advantage.

By: gotbbucs

gotbbucs — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:47:42 +0000

Blount will probably never get more than 10 offensive snaps in a game for the rest of his time as a Buccaneer. A Doug Martin injury is probably the only way any of us will ever see Blount get 15+ carries in a game again, and even then I’m not confident they wouldn’t just give the lion’s share of the carries to D.J. Ware.
To add to what Hawaiian Buc said, Lorig has been in for 77 out of 177 offensive snaps so far. That is waaaaaaaay too many in this day and age. It’s fine in goalline and short yardage plays, but at some point you need to just let your tailback read the blocks without one more guy clogging it up inside.
By the way, that injury excuse was a massive pile of crap. Blount never once has been on the injury report during this regular season that I know of.

By: Bangkok Buc

Bangkok Buc — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:46:38 +0000

All this talk about running the ball and “two headed monster” is useless unless Freeman can start playing the way he is expected to play. The Foreskins will crown the box (as they should) to stuff the run as no one respests our passing game right now. Instead of running 3 times and punting, why dont we really surprise someone and take a shot down field on the first passing play of the game. Vincent Jackson on a fly – that’ll get me fired up – as long as it’s not an interception Freeman – lets go Bucs!!!