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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Talib Is A Second-Tier Cornerback&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Brain</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2052284</link>
		<dc:creator>Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My main problem with the scheme is that the corners give away inside leverage all game, even when an all-out blitz is called. How is the blitz supposed to get there when any decent QB will just throw a quick strike slant for an easy 1st down? All of our corners were positioned outside the WRs like their life depended on keeping them away from the sideline. Talib has the length and ball skills to break up passes on the sidelines so he should&#039;ve been lined up inside shade of Nicks and jamming him to prevent the easy slant.

It was mind-boggling how we made no adjustments all game to fix this simple coverage flaw.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main problem with the scheme is that the corners give away inside leverage all game, even when an all-out blitz is called. How is the blitz supposed to get there when any decent QB will just throw a quick strike slant for an easy 1st down? All of our corners were positioned outside the WRs like their life depended on keeping them away from the sideline. Talib has the length and ball skills to break up passes on the sidelines so he should&#8217;ve been lined up inside shade of Nicks and jamming him to prevent the easy slant.</p>
<p>It was mind-boggling how we made no adjustments all game to fix this simple coverage flaw.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 00:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The scheme Schiano/Sheridan ran, they&#039;d need Deion Sanders &amp; Jimmy Johnson at corner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scheme Schiano/Sheridan ran, they&#8217;d need Deion Sanders &amp; Jimmy Johnson at corner.</p>
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		<title>By: sandbagrudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandbagrudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who lit that one it smells in here must be that bad protien powder again skipper]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who lit that one it smells in here must be that bad protien powder again skipper</p>
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		<title>By: Have A Nice Day</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2051724</link>
		<dc:creator>Have A Nice Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LMAO at &#039;Talib is a zone corner born and bred&#039;. Everyone single draft analysis had Talib as being a man-2-man corner just like he was in college. Does no one remember when he was drafted everyone scratched their head why a cover 2 team picked him?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO at &#8216;Talib is a zone corner born and bred&#8217;. Everyone single draft analysis had Talib as being a man-2-man corner just like he was in college. Does no one remember when he was drafted everyone scratched their head why a cover 2 team picked him?</p>
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		<title>By: Have A Nice Day</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2051709</link>
		<dc:creator>Have A Nice Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@BamBam &quot;That’s like saying Darrelle Revis gave up 200 yards to Nicks, but Myron Lewis gave up 201 to Cruz, so Revis isn’t bad…. No one would ever say that.&quot;

You&#039;re right and no one ever did. No one is saying Talib shouldn&#039;t be better than back ups either. I am wondering what the heck you were reading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BamBam &#8220;That’s like saying Darrelle Revis gave up 200 yards to Nicks, but Myron Lewis gave up 201 to Cruz, so Revis isn’t bad…. No one would ever say that.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right and no one ever did. No one is saying Talib shouldn&#8217;t be better than back ups either. I am wondering what the heck you were reading.</p>
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		<title>By: BucFan20</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2051651</link>
		<dc:creator>BucFan20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But then again if they all had just been on the side lines. Now who could have kept them there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then again if they all had just been on the side lines. Now who could have kept them there?</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2051601</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talib was drafted for tampa 2, he&#039;s not a man to man guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talib was drafted for tampa 2, he&#8217;s not a man to man guy.</p>
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		<title>By: FLBoyInDallas</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2051577</link>
		<dc:creator>FLBoyInDallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric Wright is our best CB.  Now ain&#039;t that something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Wright is our best CB.  Now ain&#8217;t that something.</p>
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		<title>By: BucSnob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BucSnob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!! It&#039;s just one game guys. Talib did not play well but to say he can&#039;t play is absurd. He&#039;ll bounce back. Even Revis would have been burnt Sunday with our defensive play calls. I saw Namdi Asomougha get burnt Sunday for a TD too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!! It&#8217;s just one game guys. Talib did not play well but to say he can&#8217;t play is absurd. He&#8217;ll bounce back. Even Revis would have been burnt Sunday with our defensive play calls. I saw Namdi Asomougha get burnt Sunday for a TD too.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2051354</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s no secret that I wanted Talib gone before the season started. However...the other option is Biggers now, so God help us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s no secret that I wanted Talib gone before the season started. However&#8230;the other option is Biggers now, so God help us.</p>
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		<title>By: Facts Matter</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=73990&#038;cpage=1#comment-2051342</link>
		<dc:creator>Facts Matter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is so much bad overreactions and opinions here I almost don&#039;t know where to begin.

Talib is still a first tier CB. He did get away with a lot of cheap little holds on his coverage but he still did all that can be expected of him when in single coverage of one of the best receivers in the game getting thrown to by the best qb in the game.
The myth of the shutdown corner does not mean they can stop every single pass in their direction. During the Giants-Jets pre-season game, Eli threw at Revis constantly with Cruz catching passes at ease against Mr Premier Shutdown. And Nicks is the better receiver than Cruz.

&quot;and it’s not like he was going against megatron or anything&quot; SMH 
Education time
Last year Megatron had 105 receiving yards per game
Cruz was the #3 WR at 96
Nicks was the #8 at 80 (76 receptions 15 games)
In 2010, Nicks was #5 (and 79 receptions in only 13 games) and Johnson was #9. (So, in the previous year, Nicks outperformed Johnson in less games)
And in the 2011-12 playoffs, he only had 28 receptions for 444 yards. #2 in both categories all time.

Hakeem Nicks has better numbers compared to Vincent Jackson over their last 2 full seasons. He&#039;s the most underrated receiver out there. Would you expect Revis to shut down Jackson an entire game?

Eli does back shoulder fades and other throws that only the reciever can make the play. Don&#039;t look at the stats... look at the play on the field. In the Superbowl, the throw to Manningham - a perfect 38 yard strike that no one but the reciever could catch - was not a one-time fluke.  Eli is that good.

He did not have all the time in the world to throw... with all the blitzing the Giants had the RBs and TEs stay in to block - and he was making very quick throws. There were 3 INTs after all. He just goes into a whole other gear in 4th quarters of games that he refuses to lose. He did it 7 times last year against some of the best teams in the NFL.
Tampa did not play an average team - they played the Giants aka the Superbowl Champs. A good team doing the right thing can still lose to the best team playing its best. And the 2nd half was the Giants at their best.

In the Superbowl, Belicheck can be clearly heard...
&quot;This is still a Cruz and Nicks game,&quot; Belichick said. &quot;I know we&#039;re right on them tight, but those are still the guys. Make them go to Manningham, make them go to (Bear) Pascoe. Make sure we get Cruz and Nicks.&quot;
That didn&#039;t work out for the Patriots.
So Tampa tried blitzing and leaving Talib on man coverage. That didn&#039;t work either. Manning passed to 7 different receivers. Did Talib guard the other 6 as well?? Instead of blaming Talib realize that a 2 time Superbowl MVP had a career day 2nd half to make up for a bad 1st half.

It gets easier for Tampa from this point forward.
And you cannot compare players from last year to this year. New Coaching and new schemes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is so much bad overreactions and opinions here I almost don&#8217;t know where to begin.</p>
<p>Talib is still a first tier CB. He did get away with a lot of cheap little holds on his coverage but he still did all that can be expected of him when in single coverage of one of the best receivers in the game getting thrown to by the best qb in the game.<br />
The myth of the shutdown corner does not mean they can stop every single pass in their direction. During the Giants-Jets pre-season game, Eli threw at Revis constantly with Cruz catching passes at ease against Mr Premier Shutdown. And Nicks is the better receiver than Cruz.</p>
<p>&#8220;and it’s not like he was going against megatron or anything&#8221; SMH<br />
Education time<br />
Last year Megatron had 105 receiving yards per game<br />
Cruz was the #3 WR at 96<br />
Nicks was the #8 at 80 (76 receptions 15 games)<br />
In 2010, Nicks was #5 (and 79 receptions in only 13 games) and Johnson was #9. (So, in the previous year, Nicks outperformed Johnson in less games)<br />
And in the 2011-12 playoffs, he only had 28 receptions for 444 yards. #2 in both categories all time.</p>
<p>Hakeem Nicks has better numbers compared to Vincent Jackson over their last 2 full seasons. He&#8217;s the most underrated receiver out there. Would you expect Revis to shut down Jackson an entire game?</p>
<p>Eli does back shoulder fades and other throws that only the reciever can make the play. Don&#8217;t look at the stats&#8230; look at the play on the field. In the Superbowl, the throw to Manningham &#8211; a perfect 38 yard strike that no one but the reciever could catch &#8211; was not a one-time fluke.  Eli is that good.</p>
<p>He did not have all the time in the world to throw&#8230; with all the blitzing the Giants had the RBs and TEs stay in to block &#8211; and he was making very quick throws. There were 3 INTs after all. He just goes into a whole other gear in 4th quarters of games that he refuses to lose. He did it 7 times last year against some of the best teams in the NFL.<br />
Tampa did not play an average team &#8211; they played the Giants aka the Superbowl Champs. A good team doing the right thing can still lose to the best team playing its best. And the 2nd half was the Giants at their best.</p>
<p>In the Superbowl, Belicheck can be clearly heard&#8230;<br />
&#8220;This is still a Cruz and Nicks game,&#8221; Belichick said. &#8220;I know we&#8217;re right on them tight, but those are still the guys. Make them go to Manningham, make them go to (Bear) Pascoe. Make sure we get Cruz and Nicks.&#8221;<br />
That didn&#8217;t work out for the Patriots.<br />
So Tampa tried blitzing and leaving Talib on man coverage. That didn&#8217;t work either. Manning passed to 7 different receivers. Did Talib guard the other 6 as well?? Instead of blaming Talib realize that a 2 time Superbowl MVP had a career day 2nd half to make up for a bad 1st half.</p>
<p>It gets easier for Tampa from this point forward.<br />
And you cannot compare players from last year to this year. New Coaching and new schemes.</p>
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		<title>By: Colorado Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colorado Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am all for going CB #1 in the draft next year, or nabbing an elite in Free Agency if one pops up.  Eric Wright, Talib, Barron are a good start, but one shutdown corner will make a world of difference.  Step 1 was adding a knockout safety and reliable corner...Done.  Step 2 was helping an ailing LB corp....Done.  Step 3 was developing D-line potential...in progress. Step 4 Stop the run...done  The Bucs will look much better when they add a shut down corner next offseason.  In the meantime, let&#039;s continue to support them as we punch teams in the mouth and prove to the NFL Darlings that we are no longer a slouch, and will no longer take their sheeeeit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for going CB #1 in the draft next year, or nabbing an elite in Free Agency if one pops up.  Eric Wright, Talib, Barron are a good start, but one shutdown corner will make a world of difference.  Step 1 was adding a knockout safety and reliable corner&#8230;Done.  Step 2 was helping an ailing LB corp&#8230;.Done.  Step 3 was developing D-line potential&#8230;in progress. Step 4 Stop the run&#8230;done  The Bucs will look much better when they add a shut down corner next offseason.  In the meantime, let&#8217;s continue to support them as we punch teams in the mouth and prove to the NFL Darlings that we are no longer a slouch, and will no longer take their sheeeeit.</p>
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