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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=70535&#038;cpage=1#comment-1938238</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the contract was actually more than $37, lol.  Just add a few zeros.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the contract was actually more than $37, lol.  Just add a few zeros.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=70535&#038;cpage=1#comment-1938236</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand Evo.  You are saying last year if we addeda few free agents, you believe we could have stopped our slide.  Obviously that means you believe we should pick up free agents in the middle of the season. Exactly who do you think is available as a free agent in week 8 of the regular season???  The only one I could think of is Albert Haynesworth.  Oh wait, we did pick him up.  How did that work out for us?  Free agents were not what we needed last year.  Better health and better coaching were.  You could even attribute our lack of good health to coaching as well, as from all reports Raheem&#039;s practices were very soft, which very typically leads to injuries.  As much as I supported Raheem, any fool could see that we looked completely lost on defense (and offense too).  It was a complete joke.  We looked completely unprepared, undisciplined, and disinterested out there.  That falls on the shoulders of the head coach.  No free agent would fix that problem.  

As for this year, correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but we did sign a free agent CB to a $37 contract. I&#039;d say that&#039;s addressing a major need.  We signed a veteran DT with starting experience as well. I mean, how many free agents did you want us to bring in?   If GMC stays healthy and Clayborn continues to improve, our D-Line should at minimum be respectable.  Mason Foster has an actual offseason to learn his new position.  We have a (should be) Hall of Fame player back at safety too, which should be a very natural position switch.  I got a funny feeling Talib is about to have a phenomenal season (just a hunch).  Not to mention that we have coaches that actually know what they are doing back there (I hope).  So to answer your question - yes, I do believe we can be drastically better on defense.  As a perfect example under almost identical situations, look at the 49ers last year.  They were awful in 2010 (looking lost under Singletary), then they hired Harbaugh, did virtually nothing in the offseason (unlike us), then won 14 games.  And they did it with Alex Freaking Smith as their QB!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand Evo.  You are saying last year if we addeda few free agents, you believe we could have stopped our slide.  Obviously that means you believe we should pick up free agents in the middle of the season. Exactly who do you think is available as a free agent in week 8 of the regular season???  The only one I could think of is Albert Haynesworth.  Oh wait, we did pick him up.  How did that work out for us?  Free agents were not what we needed last year.  Better health and better coaching were.  You could even attribute our lack of good health to coaching as well, as from all reports Raheem&#8217;s practices were very soft, which very typically leads to injuries.  As much as I supported Raheem, any fool could see that we looked completely lost on defense (and offense too).  It was a complete joke.  We looked completely unprepared, undisciplined, and disinterested out there.  That falls on the shoulders of the head coach.  No free agent would fix that problem.  </p>
<p>As for this year, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but we did sign a free agent CB to a $37 contract. I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s addressing a major need.  We signed a veteran DT with starting experience as well. I mean, how many free agents did you want us to bring in?   If GMC stays healthy and Clayborn continues to improve, our D-Line should at minimum be respectable.  Mason Foster has an actual offseason to learn his new position.  We have a (should be) Hall of Fame player back at safety too, which should be a very natural position switch.  I got a funny feeling Talib is about to have a phenomenal season (just a hunch).  Not to mention that we have coaches that actually know what they are doing back there (I hope).  So to answer your question &#8211; yes, I do believe we can be drastically better on defense.  As a perfect example under almost identical situations, look at the 49ers last year.  They were awful in 2010 (looking lost under Singletary), then they hired Harbaugh, did virtually nothing in the offseason (unlike us), then won 14 games.  And they did it with Alex Freaking Smith as their QB!</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i know we all make assumptions...i said yours were &quot;big&quot; assumptions... ;)

as i&#039;ve said before, my post is useless, as is everyone else&#039;s. lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know we all make assumptions&#8230;i said yours were &#8220;big&#8221; assumptions&#8230; <img src='http://www.joebucsfan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>as i&#8217;ve said before, my post is useless, as is everyone else&#8217;s. lol</p>
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		<title>By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And lurker, I actually agree with most of what you said above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And lurker, I actually agree with most of what you said above.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lurker, it being an assumption was kind of my point. By the same token, Joe and others in this thread also made assumptions. We all have and do on a regular basis.

And I really wasn&#039;t taking sides on the issue. I believe it was a combination of things that led to the firing of Raheem Morris. Certainly, his handling of last season played a large role as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lurker, it being an assumption was kind of my point. By the same token, Joe and others in this thread also made assumptions. We all have and do on a regular basis.</p>
<p>And I really wasn&#8217;t taking sides on the issue. I believe it was a combination of things that led to the firing of Raheem Morris. Certainly, his handling of last season played a large role as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope we see some consistency with the payroll before we forget about 2004 until basically now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope we see some consistency with the payroll before we forget about 2004 until basically now.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 05:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow pete, i know you mean well but those are some big assumptions.

we will never know what role finances played.  we can guess, as everyone is wont to do.  and most say the glazers were being cheap.  not spending money could just as easily be the result of following their plan of building through the draft.  this probably a result of doing the opposite of the grullen era.  

they let go of some veterans, but most of those veterans did nothing after leaving this team.  how would anyone guess after going 10-6, and starting 4-2, that the youngsters would lose like they did?  again, the inexperience of the coaches to teach and get the train back on tracked to me was the bigger issue.  raheem needed veteran coaches to assist but we do not know how open he was to assistance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow pete, i know you mean well but those are some big assumptions.</p>
<p>we will never know what role finances played.  we can guess, as everyone is wont to do.  and most say the glazers were being cheap.  not spending money could just as easily be the result of following their plan of building through the draft.  this probably a result of doing the opposite of the grullen era.  </p>
<p>they let go of some veterans, but most of those veterans did nothing after leaving this team.  how would anyone guess after going 10-6, and starting 4-2, that the youngsters would lose like they did?  again, the inexperience of the coaches to teach and get the train back on tracked to me was the bigger issue.  raheem needed veteran coaches to assist but we do not know how open he was to assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As to the people saying Raheem got canned because the team quit on him...that&#039;s only part of it. Finances did indeed play a role. Because of the lack of spending, the team had no veteran leadership...and that resulted in the young players giving up.

Because they didn&#039;t have enough veterans to rely on. As a matter of fact, Raheem isn&#039;t the only one who suffered for it. Both Preston Parker and Blount did as well, since they had not vets at their position to help them through the fumbles...since the coaches were not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the people saying Raheem got canned because the team quit on him&#8230;that&#8217;s only part of it. Finances did indeed play a role. Because of the lack of spending, the team had no veteran leadership&#8230;and that resulted in the young players giving up.</p>
<p>Because they didn&#8217;t have enough veterans to rely on. As a matter of fact, Raheem isn&#8217;t the only one who suffered for it. Both Preston Parker and Blount did as well, since they had not vets at their position to help them through the fumbles&#8230;since the coaches were not.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thomas two point two Says:
August 5th, 2012 at 3:31 pm

Little Timmy:

You can’t say that yet. If they cut bigger contracts: like benn, trueblood, black that would knock them down.

.

He can say that...since it&#039;s as of the time of the report.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomas two point two Says:<br />
August 5th, 2012 at 3:31 pm</p>
<p>Little Timmy:</p>
<p>You can’t say that yet. If they cut bigger contracts: like benn, trueblood, black that would knock them down.</p>
<p>.</p>
<p>He can say that&#8230;since it&#8217;s as of the time of the report.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[evo:

the downfall, slide, or whatever you want to call it was a combination of events and not any one thing.  could free agents have helped?  who knows.  hindisght is 20/20, yadayada.  but i doubt it.  youth was a culprit insomuch as a lack of experiece in dealing with the situation.  inexperience in  players and coaches.

i believe raheem got a fair shake, as fair as a person thrust into a coaching job never having learned how to be a coach or coordinator.  the glazers thought that raheem would be like tomlin and didn&#039;t want to miss out like they did tomlin.  however, raheem was not ready yet, but he jumped at the chance to be an nfl head coach.  raheem might yet still be a head coach.  he needs to learn from his mistakes and take from the experiences.

as far as the bucs go, it is going to take some time and more players.  this cannot be corrected in one year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evo:</p>
<p>the downfall, slide, or whatever you want to call it was a combination of events and not any one thing.  could free agents have helped?  who knows.  hindisght is 20/20, yadayada.  but i doubt it.  youth was a culprit insomuch as a lack of experiece in dealing with the situation.  inexperience in  players and coaches.</p>
<p>i believe raheem got a fair shake, as fair as a person thrust into a coaching job never having learned how to be a coach or coordinator.  the glazers thought that raheem would be like tomlin and didn&#8217;t want to miss out like they did tomlin.  however, raheem was not ready yet, but he jumped at the chance to be an nfl head coach.  raheem might yet still be a head coach.  he needs to learn from his mistakes and take from the experiences.</p>
<p>as far as the bucs go, it is going to take some time and more players.  this cannot be corrected in one year.</p>
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		<title>By: evo</title>
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		<dc:creator>evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And again.. I&#039;m not saying you have to spend to the cap in order to win. All I&#039;m saying is. you get a guy practice squad players. Thats what you get on sundays for the opposing teams. PRACTICE. Just don&#039;t say they gave Rah a fair shake. I&#039;m happy he&#039;s gone. I don&#039;t think he is good for young players. But I blame the players more than the coaches. You&#039;d figure pride would&#039;ve kicked in sooner or later. But it never did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And again.. I&#8217;m not saying you have to spend to the cap in order to win. All I&#8217;m saying is. you get a guy practice squad players. Thats what you get on sundays for the opposing teams. PRACTICE. Just don&#8217;t say they gave Rah a fair shake. I&#8217;m happy he&#8217;s gone. I don&#8217;t think he is good for young players. But I blame the players more than the coaches. You&#8217;d figure pride would&#8217;ve kicked in sooner or later. But it never did.</p>
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		<title>By: evo</title>
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		<dc:creator>evo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK Guys I agree with you all. The team did give up. But lets be honest. If they had actually paid a few good free agents to come in and play D for us. do you think that slide would&#039;ve been so bad? And yes after 10-6 you build through the draft. But wasn&#039;t that 10-6 kind of lucky? I mean be honest as a bucs fan. 

I want my team to win just as bad as you. But they could&#039;ve gotten proven yet still young talent to come in and play for us at every level. People that was better than what we had here. I agree they TEAM gave up. But a few free agents here and there may have been able to pull this drop out of it&#039;s slide. I honestly feel that. 

But tell me. Do you guys think besides getting a couple rookies on defense this team will be better? Mind you I prey it will be. I&#039;m not a happy person on sunday when someones telling me playing against my bucs was easier than their practices.  I just don&#039;t think they did enough. More so on the D-line. I liek our young linebackers (even though I think foster should be out Strong side backer) And I love the Baron pick. But whew I&#039;m worried. I just hope they did enough. 

Anyone else go to the night practice and came away thinking the defense got better?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Guys I agree with you all. The team did give up. But lets be honest. If they had actually paid a few good free agents to come in and play D for us. do you think that slide would&#8217;ve been so bad? And yes after 10-6 you build through the draft. But wasn&#8217;t that 10-6 kind of lucky? I mean be honest as a bucs fan. </p>
<p>I want my team to win just as bad as you. But they could&#8217;ve gotten proven yet still young talent to come in and play for us at every level. People that was better than what we had here. I agree they TEAM gave up. But a few free agents here and there may have been able to pull this drop out of it&#8217;s slide. I honestly feel that. </p>
<p>But tell me. Do you guys think besides getting a couple rookies on defense this team will be better? Mind you I prey it will be. I&#8217;m not a happy person on sunday when someones telling me playing against my bucs was easier than their practices.  I just don&#8217;t think they did enough. More so on the D-line. I liek our young linebackers (even though I think foster should be out Strong side backer) And I love the Baron pick. But whew I&#8217;m worried. I just hope they did enough. </p>
<p>Anyone else go to the night practice and came away thinking the defense got better?</p>
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