Comments on: Ronde Barber And The Safety Position

By: Tiny tim

Tiny tim — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:29:01 +0000

Also Joe, I remember before last season you referenced some stat geeks that was trying to sell that Biggers was one of the better cover corners in the league and I told you then to stop it. Because what I saw out of biggers told me another story. Again, these geeks are trying to be relevant and it is not worth your time to keep posting such nonsense. I come to your website for informative information and not some wanna be football scout’s analysis. You are better than that Joe!!

By: Tiny tim

Tiny tim — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:22:06 +0000

Why even write what these stat geeks write about. I’m sure what they are calling a miss tackle is not considered a miss tackle in NFL circles. These are geeks who have never strapped on anything but a g-string. Please Joe, stop referencing these guys and stick to “real” football guys and not some numbers geek looking to be relevant. Barber was, is, and always will be one of the best tackling corners this league has ever seen. I do not need a numbers geek to tell me that. You should know better Joe!!

By: Oahubuc

Oahubuc — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:50:06 +0000

When you are the only guy trying to make tackles, you are going to miss some.

By: Brandon

Brandon — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:43:00 +0000

Ronde very well could have missed a ton of tackles. However, considering he was one of the few players on the D willing to get his uniform dirty, it’s pretty hard to make a tackle when only 6-7 guys are out there playing against 11.

I liken Barber’s situation not a whole lot different than that of a punter trying to tackle the broken away punt returner as the last line of defense. I don’t care if Ray Lewis was the punter, he’s going to miss his fair share of those tackles. The reason is is that there is very little help around him. in a good defense, other players flow to the ball, eliminate cutbacks, and stick their heads in there to make sure the ball carrier is down. In our defense, far too often it was one player trying to make the tackle by himself in space with nobody else close to lend a hand, eliminate cutbacks, and put a helmet in there to eliminate second effort broken tackles.

By: aj

aj — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 03:33:10 +0000

Rah said stats are for losers, but it is better said stats without context are for losers. Even a step or two slow, Ronde still covers more field than most, still gets in position to make plays. The fact is that any team that asks a cornerback to be its primary run stopper is going to have a bad time.

Can’t wait to see him at safety. With a better view of the field, he might be in a better position to put his instincts to good use. And if the d-line can finally generate a pass rush, he’ll be ready for a good season defending the pass.

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:16:42 +0000

Pete:

Monson is an idiot, and I would like to know where he gets his stats.

And Joe would ask where you get your stats?

Not trying to be a knob, but what the NFL records for defensive stats and what the Bucs record as stats are wildly different. Joe has written about this before.

So if someone is going to knock a guy — Joe’s not saying Monson is wrong or right — for studying tape and taking detailed notes, the very same question could be lodged at the NFL and the Bucs (or any team).

By: Mr Lucky

Mr Lucky — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:46:41 +0000

Good to see some positive comments about what Thomas 2.2 wrote – I totally agree with you on this one Thomas.

I have more faith in Rhonde doing well in 2012, even at safety, than I have in GMC.

Hopefully BOTH players can record double digit sacks.

By: Thomas2.2

Thomas2.2 — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:28:39 +0000

Great point Pete.

Ronde’s average sacks per season is virtually identical to Gerald’s after 2 seasons. LOL!

By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)

The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:20:07 +0000

By the way…with the moves this team has made, along with the assembled staff…I don’t see how Schiano cannot do very well…unless he turns out to be an idiot, which I don’t see happening.

By: The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher)

The Dutcher Journal (Pete Dutcher) — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:11:07 +0000

Monson is an idiot, and I would like to know where he gets his stats.

Over the last 10 years, Barber has averaged 71.5 solo tackles per year. He’s averaged 84.2 Combined tackles in that time. He’s also averaged 3.3 Interceptions each year over the last 11 years.

Also, as a Cornerback…A CORNERBACK…he averaged 1.65 sacks over the last 10 years.

Ronde Barber has always been one of the best tacklers at his position. Monson doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

But even if Ronde did miss tackles from time to time…he still has high numbers. Last year alone he had 79 Combined tackles, 1 sack, 3 Interceptions and a forced fumble.

By: BucsFanInBoise

BucsFanInBoise — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:00:42 +0000

All I know is about 10 years ago I sold my soul for Tampa Bay to beat the Eagles. I remember McNabb driving down the field. My prayers were answered in the form of Ronde and a pic 6 to send Tampa to the Suberbowl ! Let the man play QB if he wants. WE OWE HIM !!!!

By: Ladyz

Ladyz — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:47:22 +0000

Thomas 22 has me checking my pluse. Best comment I remember from him. Very thoughtful. To all the others who want Ronde gone, I’d sure love you to try running the ball against him. Go Ronde! Go Bucs !!