Comments on: McCoy And Price Are “Very, Very, Very Special”

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:56:55 +0000

I’m with you Garv on the whole injury thing. What really kills me is when fans attribute players getting hurt to not working our hard enough in the offseason. As if they would have any clue how hard that player works. Perhaps the injury could just be attributed to playing a game where injury is common place? Did Peyton Manning get hurt because he wasn’t working hard enough? Was Tom Brady’s ACL torn because he took a vacation in the offseason? It’s a ridiculous argument.

By: Garv

Garv — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:29:25 +0000

@Scubog…
Thanks man, a kindred spirit!
LOTS of positives to be optimistic about this off-season and really looking forward to Buc football coming soon. BTW, had to leave Pewter Report too. It was better when they charged more for the paper magazine IMO.

As for injuries? Let’s just hope for the best. Too many “fans” seem to enjoy ripping players for getting hurt, something I will NEVER understand. Did you notice Sapp on the NFL network talking about McCoy? Think he picked him as most improved this year. We’ll see.

Buccaneers in 2012?

Can’t WAIT!!!

By: Scubog

Scubog — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:18:32 +0000

Garv: As I have for the past 36 years, I share your enthusiasm for the season ahead. I have been reading Joe Bucs Fan for several years but only just recently decided to read some of the comments. I share your assessment of this group of posters that is littered with a far more juvenile collection than I would have expected. It seems they are more interested in name-calling than with making their point or discussing a topic. They also have such little to say, with nothing to support their claims, that they simply resort to criticism of what I thought was their favorite team. Explains the divorce rate among young people. And I thought some of the posters on Pewter Report had issues. Hopefully McCoy and Price can stay out of the infirmary and show their worth. Some of these people will be heading to Walmart to buy a 93 jersey…………discounted of course.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 04:08:02 +0000

I do kind of agree with you Eric, but for the record, I have never criticized Faine. I’ve always thought of him as a true professional, and never really agreed with all the criticism he received. Perhaps his comments weren’t that smart from a PR perspective (similar to Blount’s response about Richardson prior to the draft), but he was just being honest. It didn’t bother me then, and still doesn’t bother me.

However, perhaps you don’t know the difference between not trashing his former teammates versus going out of his way to praise them. He said much more than what he had to say. I think it’s amazing how when someone praises GMC (Schiano, Faine, etc.), some dismiss it, yet when others (Sapp, Beckles, etc.) says anything remotely negative about him, all of a sudden that is the truth.

By: Eric

Eric — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 03:23:51 +0000

Amazing how Faine has been so roundly criticized on this site. Then, when he says something that fits the conventional wisdom, he’s suddenly a true professional.

The guy is smart enough not to trash his former team mates or management. Coaching is a convenient scapegoat…….

Joe all but ran the man out of town…….

By: Garv

Garv — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 02:04:46 +0000

I tryyyyyy to get out
but they pullllllll me back in…..

It’s too bad this site is constantly under attack from trolls but my responding to these idiots obviously does not help matters.
Until we can meet when they come out of hiding or until they simply disappear, it is what it is.

Sorry for biting the hook…..again.

NOT sorry for being an enthusiastic and supportive fan and for looking forward to the soon to be here season ahead.

Buccaneers in 202?

Can’t WAIT!!!

By: Garv

Garv — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:47:14 +0000

Mr. “lucky”…
I believe you call yourself that?
Just sick and tired of your whining.
I find it hard to believe “fans” such as yourself and your soul mate 2.whatever
can be anything but miserable school boys who were picked on too much. So you type your garbage over and over again and get feedback. I guess for people like you ANY kind of feedback is good. But it won’t make up for the hole inside from years of being ridiculed. What you do here, you and your soul mate?

This is not getting even brat, it’s just annoying as hell.

And yes kid, I AM an optimist and DO enjoy thinking good things are ahead for the Bucs. It’s why I renew every year. It’s fun.

Buccaneers in 2012?

Can ‘t WAIT!!!

By: Ladyz

Ladyz — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:35:47 +0000

Is it possible that we have one or two posters writing under more than one name? Would it be posable to have only positive comments for twenty-four hours? Go Bucs !

By: Mr Lucky

Mr Lucky — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:33:37 +0000

@HawaiianBuc – Unlike the season I only check in a few time a week so I don’t read a lot of the posts.

@Garv – I see you’re still the ever present Pollyanna that you were last year, ignoring facts when presented to you and still calling people names; I guess some things never change.

Hopefully with real coaching the Bucs record in 2012 will be the exception to the aforementioned rule.

By: Mr Lucky

Mr Lucky — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:29:10 +0000

@BamBam – thanks for a well written response, somewhat of a rareity around this site lately; I’ll contribute that to the off season.

My reasoning about the injuries between Price and McCoy are this – Price’s injury was just freakish and usually career ending. From my knowledge about what happened to Price nothing could have prevented it.

With McCoy his injuries are different and I believe that after the first injury in his rookie season I believe that McCoy should have trained better and harder in order to prevent the injury from occurring in year 2. In addition poor technique could have ‘contributed’ to the injury that McCoy sustained.

I just don’t believe that McCoy has shown the ‘will’ or ‘drive’ to live up to the potential that he was billed prior to the draft. I HOPE that 2012 is his breakout year.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:22:19 +0000

Mr. Lucky,
I got no problem with you, but you are dead wrong about Thomas. You ignore all the names he calls others: ladies, sheep, etc. He doesn’t respond to facts, which is why many choose to not use them.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:20:10 +0000

Thomas,
Building a team and evaluating talent are two different animals. Evaluating talent on film versus evaluating it by competing against said talent are as well. The reason many players don’t make good GM’s is that they have to evaluate talent though film. It’s much harder. But if there is one position Faine can effectively evaluate, it’s DT. Obviously you aren’t that stupid to not understand that. He goes against GMC, as well as all the other DT’s in the league. He obviously feels GMC (and Price for that matter) is very good. This was much more than a generic answer, and he obviously meant it.