Comments on: Can’t Move Aqib Talib

By: RustyRhino

RustyRhino — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:35:58 +0000

Looking Very forward to Talib getting some “coaching” from our new DB coach, who is from what I have read on this site and others is a Very good DB coach. Just possibly one of the best DB coaches we have ever had here. Best since Talib was drafted most assuredly. IMO anyway…

By: Peking Buc

Peking Buc — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:43:47 +0000

Bam Bam is correct. Talib is far from elite. Just think about the coverage on Megatron last year. Why was he at least five yards away from him trying to make a play, instead of staying with him the whole time. I don’t think the coaches told him to gamble and leave Megatron.

Ronde and Dave Moore have said in interviews that Talib is a gambler and loves to take chances. I don’t think this coaching will put up with his gambling. He gets yanked the first time he leaves the #1 receiver to roam. But I do believe he has the talent to be a very good corner, but needs to realize his job is to stay with the #1 the whole time.

By: BigMacAttack

BigMacAttack — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 11:44:44 +0000

I believe the new coaching staff will help Talib and his play just like the rest of the team. I think many of the chances Talib took may have been by design and coaching. I don’t think the DB’s worked very hard as Rah’s Boys and now that has all changed. I look forward to seeing Eric Wright on the field now, combined with Barber and Barron, Aqib should not get burned so frequently for TD’s and big plays.

By: BamBamBuc

BamBamBuc — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 04:21:18 +0000

I could easily name many CBs that I would put above Talib. It’s actually very easy search criteria. Just look for any CB that averages more than 40 tackles per year, there are plenty. Devin McCourty had 60 in 2010 to go with his 7 INTs and 2 FF and a sack with 17 passes defensed. Not bad. Carlos Rogers had 62 tackles to go with his 6 INTs and 19 passes defensed last year. Brent Grimes 70 tackles, 5 INTs, 23 break ups in 2010. Ledarius Webb, Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr, Darrelle Revis, Asante Samuel, Jonathon Joseph… even our own Eric Wright (71 tackles, 4 INTs, 17 break ups last year) have better combinations than Talib. Also, you’ll find that most of these guys still have 3 strikes left with Goodell, not one or two. They keep their noses clean off the field for the most part. Talib only gets about 40 tackles per year as a starter, which makes me wonder about his ability as a CB in run support. He also is down around 11 or 12 passes defensed per year, which isn’t bad, but definitely not among the top. That makes me question his coverages and whether he’s purely going for the INT and if he doesn’t get it, he gets burned. His INT numbers are good, but that’s a risky proposition, I’d be happier if it were accompanied by more passes defensed. He has no other real attributes to contribute. He’s not a blitzing CB, so doesn’t add to sacks or QB pressure. He’s given up many TDs over the past couple years (whether all his fault or assisted by poor Safety play, it really doesn’t matter). He’s found it difficult to play a full season so far (whether due to suspension or injury). Simply put, he’s not only not elite, but it’s questionable if you can even put him in the “very good” category until he proves he can help in run support or break up more passes or stay healthy and keep his nose clean.

By: jon

jon — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 02:24:39 +0000

If hes not an elite corner,then he is very close and i think he wiill be one by not getting in trouble no more and listens to his coaches.

By: Macabee

Macabee — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 01:55:59 +0000

There are differing opinions as to who the top CBs are. I respect that!

http://mediagallery.usatoday.com/NFL%27s-best-players-of-2011/NFL%27s-Top-10-cornerbacks-of-2011/G2329,A9306

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:58:43 +0000

NJBuc:

I’m a fan of yours, but you’re gonna regret that “not elite” comment.

Please fill Joe in as to when Talib was named All Pro of All NFC much less made a Pro Bowl.

Hell, NFL players named guys into the 2011 top 100 players who never even stepped on the field. Talib is not among that list.

By: admin

admin — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:56:52 +0000

NJBuc:

I’m a fan of yours, but you’re gonna regret that “not elite” comment.

Feel free to fill Joe in when Talib was named All-Pro or even All-NFC, much less played in a Pro Bowl.

By: SilenceTheCritics

SilenceTheCritics — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:45:53 +0000

If talib didnt give up as many deep balls as interceptions, then he would be considered elite, no doubt… but until then I will just stick to very good. Thats my opinion anyways.

By: Macabee

Macabee — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:39:31 +0000

@patrickbucs,

I accept your response uncontested because of the manner in which I posed the question. You did indeed name 5 CBs that you would prefer in place of Talib.

If I had said name 5 CBs that has had better production, INTS and INTs returned for touchdowns over the last 4 years, your response would have undoubtedly been different.

By: ben

ben — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:02:05 +0000

if im not mistaken wasnt talib leading the nfl for ints at the time he had that leg injury in 2010, i think it was 6 or 7. Are we going to see grimm at safety at all? maybe when barber or barron move to a slot or lb position in a slot package? who knows if he is back to health i know the kid performed when given the chance though (grimm)

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:00:31 +0000

It’s really irrelevant as far as what other corners we would rather have. Fact of the matter is, Talib is far and away the best CB we will have on the roster in 2012. Anyone else we would pick up to replace him would be a downgrade. I think he will shine this year because he will have much better play on the D-Line (less time for QB’s to throw the ball) and much better help at the safety position. Assuming he doesn’t get a lengthy suspension, I think we will look back on this a year from now and be very happy we stuck with him.