Comments on: The QB Blast: Wonderlic Means Little For Corners

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:02:26 +0000

“If you’ve watched enough drafts, you’ve heard about a RB every year that is supposed to be the “next elite RB”. ”

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Not really. There’s always a best RB in the class, but it has been widely agreed upon that TR is the best RB since AP. I don’t recall that being said with Ingram, or any other back since. I’m sorry, but even if his career ended today, I still would have taken AP. I don’t even regret the Caddy pick. But make no mistake about it, TR is a much better back than Caddy ever was.

I also completely disagree that you can just plug any back in there behind a great OL. Perhaps any back could be effective, but there is a big difference between being effective and being elite. Effective means you take a big hole and run for 10 yards. Elite means you take that same hole and take it to the house. Effective RB’s fill up the stat sheet, elite RB’s fill up the win column.

By: Hawaiian Buc

Hawaiian Buc — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:56:45 +0000

I’m pretty much over my initial shock over the low wonderlic score. The more I read up about Claiborne, as well as read articles like this, the more I am able to look past it. I feel very confident he will be an excellent player for us, and I will stand up and cheer if we call his name on the 26th. And for the record, I am on the “Richardson 2 Bucs” campaign. But more realistically, I’m on the “I want the Bucs to kick arse next year” campaign.

By: BigMacAttack

BigMacAttack — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:41:41 +0000

Yea I agree, big risk, and I think Mo would be a great player for us. I have a soft spot for kids from Pahokee and Belle Glade. It’s just me wanting him to succeed. I loved watching him as a Gator. You never know what all that money will do to a person. Big question mark with 3 strikes already.

By: Cmurda

Cmurda — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:38:40 +0000

@ BigMac. I’m not going to argue the talent. I agree with you. There was a reason he didn’t finish as a Gator though. Besides, do we really want to go from Aqib Talib to another Aqib Talib?

By: BigMacAttack

BigMacAttack — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:17:34 +0000

@Cmurda, we’ll see how it plays out when they get in games. I only hope Jenkins is over the transgressions, but can’t say he is, only hope. The Gators lost a lot on defense when they let him go. I feel he is every bit the CB as Mo , but have to wait and see when they get to their teams. Mo is taller, but Janoris is stronger and can play press coverage very well. We’ll see how it plays out, and everyone and everything says Mo is better, but as usual I go with what my untrained eyes tell me, which is that Jenkins can play with the best receivers in the league, and he did while a Gator. He can also return punts if needed. I see Jenkins as a possible option for the Bucs if they trade back and maybe get a second pick in the 1′st round or early second when I think Jenkins may be gone by then.

By: PewterGoon

PewterGoon — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 18:01:39 +0000

@CharlieB: Thanks, that was really my only point. He scored badly on a test that is meant to only give a score for a very small subset of what is the large thing called “Intelligence”.

By: Have A Nice Day

Have A Nice Day — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:34:19 +0000

@ATLBucsFnan Unfortuantely Goodell is up to his ears in work from the Saints bounty debacle ranging from civil suits all the way to the LA state Senate sticking their noses into the mix.
You’d think with all the garbage that the LA government has caused they would work on fixing the other far more important problems they’ve created.

By: Cmurda

Cmurda — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:32:19 +0000

@ BigMac Janoris Jenkins better than MO? Hell no! Not even close. Besides, pencil me as the doubting Thomas of the Janoris is over his off-field problems school of thought.

By: AtlBucsFan

AtlBucsFan — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:26:05 +0000

Why is the press ignoring the real story here. The score should have never been leaked. It violates MC’s right to privacy! Goodell should be jumping all over this in finding out how this information was leaked and then sending in his goonies to clean house. (Or he could just send in Gregg Williams.)

By: CharlieB

CharlieB — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:20:46 +0000

Pewter,

You are right to a degree. I think someone athletically gifted can be taught CB if it starts early enough to build the right instincts.

However, nothing in the wonderlic test evaluates body kinesthetic or spatial intelligence. So really, you make a good argument for why the wonderlic is a poor judge for a CB.

By: ALSTOTTSMART!

ALSTOTTSMART! — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:18:14 +0000

Also, the beauty of having an elite OL, is that you can put a nominal RB back there and still get great results. See: Denver Broncos under Shanahan.

By: ALSTOTTSMART!

ALSTOTTSMART! — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:13:38 +0000

Luckily, you, nor I get to make the call.

If you’ve watched enough drafts, you’ve heard about a RB every year that is supposed to be the “next elite RB”.

I think TR is good, but no one can truly can see into the future. But, I have already seen what Blount can do on an actual NFL team. I’d much rather give him a year (and fix the back 7), and, if he can’t work out the weaknesses in his game after getting an offseason of coaching, get your great RB next year.

Like I said, luckily, none of the armchair GM’s (myself included) have to make that decision.

It would be funny if TB winds up getting Kalil.