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		<title>By: Pete Dutcher</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=63520&#038;cpage=2#comment-1591555</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Dutcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Macabee
On paper, the burden of proof is on the state. In reality, many, many people have gone to prison without proof. That&#039;s why people are cleared by DNA after spending years in prison.

These days a person, in reality, must prove their innocence.

I myself have witnessed this on multiple occasions. And at the same time, I have seen a man who planned and murdered another man be convicted...and get released less than 2 years later.

That murderer accidentally killed the wrong target...the twin brother of his intended target. Because his &quot;plan&quot; was to kill the other brother, it was considered to not be premeditated.

How screwed up was that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Macabee<br />
On paper, the burden of proof is on the state. In reality, many, many people have gone to prison without proof. That&#8217;s why people are cleared by DNA after spending years in prison.</p>
<p>These days a person, in reality, must prove their innocence.</p>
<p>I myself have witnessed this on multiple occasions. And at the same time, I have seen a man who planned and murdered another man be convicted&#8230;and get released less than 2 years later.</p>
<p>That murderer accidentally killed the wrong target&#8230;the twin brother of his intended target. Because his &#8220;plan&#8221; was to kill the other brother, it was considered to not be premeditated.</p>
<p>How screwed up was that?</p>
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		<title>By: NJBuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas (Talib Haters),

I have terrible news for you, your star witness(Billings), the man whom you have pinned all of your hopes and desires to finally rid yourselves of the scourge that is Aquib, today sits in a jail cell on his second arrest for sexual assault since this incident. This one also involving a child.  I&#039;m sure in the world you live in, this fact changes nothing and that this guy still has credibility because you want to believe his view. But that&quot;s really weak on your part. Predators on society are inherently dishonest, it&#039;s how they capture prey. I don&#039;t know why the State is going forward.  BTW, the shot that the Mother heard was Billings dropping the gun, that concept shouldn&#039;t be that difficult to grasp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas (Talib Haters),</p>
<p>I have terrible news for you, your star witness(Billings), the man whom you have pinned all of your hopes and desires to finally rid yourselves of the scourge that is Aquib, today sits in a jail cell on his second arrest for sexual assault since this incident. This one also involving a child.  I&#8217;m sure in the world you live in, this fact changes nothing and that this guy still has credibility because you want to believe his view. But that&#8221;s really weak on your part. Predators on society are inherently dishonest, it&#8217;s how they capture prey. I don&#8217;t know why the State is going forward.  BTW, the shot that the Mother heard was Billings dropping the gun, that concept shouldn&#8217;t be that difficult to grasp.</p>
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		<title>By: Fired Greg Olson!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fired Greg Olson!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 08:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guilty or not, Talib&#039;s gotta go...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilty or not, Talib&#8217;s gotta go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Thomas2.2
So Talibs mother, a person who has been ARRESTED MULTIPLE TIMES, went to the police and CHANGED HER STORY, telling them that Aqib COULD have shot the gun.

WOW, that sounds like solid evidence, put that with the kiddie fiddlers, who beat up his wife that morning, testimony and Talib will be getting life.
Can they not find some upstanding person like Hitler to strengthen the case even more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thomas2.2<br />
So Talibs mother, a person who has been ARRESTED MULTIPLE TIMES, went to the police and CHANGED HER STORY, telling them that Aqib COULD have shot the gun.</p>
<p>WOW, that sounds like solid evidence, put that with the kiddie fiddlers, who beat up his wife that morning, testimony and Talib will be getting life.<br />
Can they not find some upstanding person like Hitler to strengthen the case even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Cmurda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cmurda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Drew. I&#039;m a Vet as well,  not Vietnam. I&#039;ll call myself a 9-11 Vet for timesake purposes. I think Capt was illustrating the point of an Aqib Talib vs the men and women with morals, convictions, and honor. It was an extreme tangent albeit an accurate one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Drew. I&#8217;m a Vet as well,  not Vietnam. I&#8217;ll call myself a 9-11 Vet for timesake purposes. I think Capt was illustrating the point of an Aqib Talib vs the men and women with morals, convictions, and honor. It was an extreme tangent albeit an accurate one.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=63520&#038;cpage=2#comment-1590158</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How are you so sure he threatened this woman?  Is there mysterious witnesses that I haven&#039;t heard of?  Why wait over a year?  There&#039;s no legitimate answer for those questions.  Besides, you make as if she&#039;s some elderly woman, and she is incapable of a money grab.  Hell, my mother is over 58 and given the opportunity, I have no doubt she would do the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are you so sure he threatened this woman?  Is there mysterious witnesses that I haven&#8217;t heard of?  Why wait over a year?  There&#8217;s no legitimate answer for those questions.  Besides, you make as if she&#8217;s some elderly woman, and she is incapable of a money grab.  Hell, my mother is over 58 and given the opportunity, I have no doubt she would do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Thomas 2.2

Ask the Cabbie what kind of person Talib is.
Ask Corey Boyd what kind of person Talib is.
Ask Torrie Cox what kind of person Talib is.

All inadmissible in court... You cannot use a persons past to influence the jury into believing guilt. Only evidence related to the current charges can be used, unless Talib&#039;s defense screws up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Thomas 2.2</p>
<p>Ask the Cabbie what kind of person Talib is.<br />
Ask Corey Boyd what kind of person Talib is.<br />
Ask Torrie Cox what kind of person Talib is.</p>
<p>All inadmissible in court&#8230; You cannot use a persons past to influence the jury into believing guilt. Only evidence related to the current charges can be used, unless Talib&#8217;s defense screws up.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Captain... I&#039;m a Viet Nam veteran and I clearly do not understand your point about the Military and the bearing it has on this discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain&#8230; I&#8217;m a Viet Nam veteran and I clearly do not understand your point about the Military and the bearing it has on this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt.Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt.Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hawaiian- if we all stick to just the facts, and what&#039;s submittable Evidence, and what testimony can hold up under cross examination,

Then jeez, ain&#039;t gonna be much discussion happening here!

If twenty different people, from twenty different places, without knowledge of each other- all accuse a guy of spitting on them, at different times and places,

Then, I&#039;m gonna believe the guy spits on people!

There is a question of doubt. Then there is sticking yer head in the sand.
 
I&#039;m sure this guy jumped out and threatened a 58 year old woman

Like I said. He will self destruct on his own soon enough.

He&#039;ll threaten/Slap/hit the wrong person. Or the wrong persons grandma. Or child.

It&#039;s the beauty of the American way!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawaiian- if we all stick to just the facts, and what&#8217;s submittable Evidence, and what testimony can hold up under cross examination,</p>
<p>Then jeez, ain&#8217;t gonna be much discussion happening here!</p>
<p>If twenty different people, from twenty different places, without knowledge of each other- all accuse a guy of spitting on them, at different times and places,</p>
<p>Then, I&#8217;m gonna believe the guy spits on people!</p>
<p>There is a question of doubt. Then there is sticking yer head in the sand.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure this guy jumped out and threatened a 58 year old woman</p>
<p>Like I said. He will self destruct on his own soon enough.</p>
<p>He&#8217;ll threaten/Slap/hit the wrong person. Or the wrong persons grandma. Or child.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the beauty of the American way!</p>
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		<title>By: Macabee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macabee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capt. Tim, One final post because as you know, I&#039;m one of your fans. I applaud your work with the military. Doesn&#039;t surprise me, you&#039;re a good guy and you come at this from a moral perspective that can&#039;t be argued with. But that&#039;s simply not how our court system works.

This is a criminal case and the burden of proof is on the accuser, nothing more, nothing less. Everything you say is probably true, but the question here is will a jury of Talib&#039;s peers believe or have sympathy for a recedivist (multiple) child sexual offender.

All of the things that you mention about Talib prior to this case will not even be allowed for prejudicial reasons. Ask your new found buddy Thomas. He will tell you that Talib may be guilty as all get out, but you have to prove that beyond a shadow of doubt and it only takes one juror to have doubt.

Your best shot is to have Schiano and Dominik believe that it is best to leave the drama behind and trade him while he still has value. I genuinely don&#039;t mean to be dismissive. I&#039;m simply looking at this from a purely legal perspective.

However it turns out, I won&#039;t be upset. Have a good evening!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capt. Tim, One final post because as you know, I&#8217;m one of your fans. I applaud your work with the military. Doesn&#8217;t surprise me, you&#8217;re a good guy and you come at this from a moral perspective that can&#8217;t be argued with. But that&#8217;s simply not how our court system works.</p>
<p>This is a criminal case and the burden of proof is on the accuser, nothing more, nothing less. Everything you say is probably true, but the question here is will a jury of Talib&#8217;s peers believe or have sympathy for a recedivist (multiple) child sexual offender.</p>
<p>All of the things that you mention about Talib prior to this case will not even be allowed for prejudicial reasons. Ask your new found buddy Thomas. He will tell you that Talib may be guilty as all get out, but you have to prove that beyond a shadow of doubt and it only takes one juror to have doubt.</p>
<p>Your best shot is to have Schiano and Dominik believe that it is best to leave the drama behind and trade him while he still has value. I genuinely don&#8217;t mean to be dismissive. I&#8217;m simply looking at this from a purely legal perspective.</p>
<p>However it turns out, I won&#8217;t be upset. Have a good evening!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s gonna end with a plea or dismissal.

State is trying to force a deal. Happens every day.

No way do they take it to trial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s gonna end with a plea or dismissal.</p>
<p>State is trying to force a deal. Happens every day.</p>
<p>No way do they take it to trial.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt.Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt.Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol- love the Talib post! Chance ta get on the ole Soapbox.

Really, I&#039;m a lot more concerned with getting another CB, and TWO more starting LBers in here!

That&#039;s what we need ta win. 
Talib will self destruct on his own. Honestly, we don&#039;t even need to worry about that one

Oh, and we got the great&quot; do we, or don&#039;t we want Tim Tebow&quot; debate!
Lol. That&#039;ll keep us debating til The draft!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol- love the Talib post! Chance ta get on the ole Soapbox.</p>
<p>Really, I&#8217;m a lot more concerned with getting another CB, and TWO more starting LBers in here!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what we need ta win.<br />
Talib will self destruct on his own. Honestly, we don&#8217;t even need to worry about that one</p>
<p>Oh, and we got the great&#8221; do we, or don&#8217;t we want Tim Tebow&#8221; debate!<br />
Lol. That&#8217;ll keep us debating til The draft!</p>
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