As for Atkins and Melton, most teams would take a healthy body over GMC the past couple years, but if GMC is healthy you might get a different story from those other teams (purely based on potential and athleticism). Heck, even the Bears gave up a 2nd round pick for Gaines Adams (RIP) based on potential that never had materialized. When JPP was drafted, the biggest knock on him was potential was through the roof, but would it ever materialize? Well, it did and the Giants got a great player for taking the risk and coaching up the potential and athleticism.

And the first line of my post was a quote from one of yours, you did say “While Suh put up dominant numbers (3 times mccoys in major categories) in the same conference”. You may have corrected yourself in a later post. Then again, you also said in your first post in this thread “His highest sack total was 6 against Big 12 competition (Suh had something like 20 sacks against the same comp).” Umm, no… Suh had 12, which is no where near “something like 20″. You also stated in a later post in this thread regarding GMC “if I remember correctly he did less than 50% of the reps of some of the stronger lineman.” which is also incorrect. The most reps by ANY player in that draft class was 45 by Mitch Petrus. The best DL was Jeff Owens (a 7th rnd draft choice of the Eagles who is no longer in the NFL having suffered a knee injury late his rookie year) with 44. No other player at any position had 40 or more. Brian Price had 34, Suh had 32. So, GMC didn’t do less than half of any players reps in that combine. Your memory is faulty, as are your facts.

If you want to spout off facts, or recollections, you may want to look them up first so you don’t look like a fool. As a lawyer, it’d be horrible to walk into a courtroom spouting off facts that are obviously false and basing a case on a memory of a previous trial where your memory is faulty. That would probably get a lot of cases thrown out of court.

There is not a person in the NFL who would take McCoy over Suh if given the choice so there is no comparison.

Most would take Geno Atkins an Henry Melton of McCoy as well.

I said twice as many sacks: 6 to 12 is twice as many.

Suh had 24 tfl’s (not 20.5) McCoy had 14 – nearly twice as many.

OK Thomas. I’m calling BS here. Again you exaggerate and fall completely off base trying to make a point. It makes you unbelievable at best and disliked or even hated at best. Let’s look at the facts.

Major categories – Sacks, Tackles for Loss, Tackles

Suh – 12 Sacks
GMC – 6
3x GMC = 18… False

Suh – 20.5 TFL
GMC – 15.5
3x GMC = 46.5… again False

Suh – 52 Solo, 33 assisted, 85 total tackles
GMC – 25/9/34 total
3x GMC = 102… False again.

Of course, we all know that Suh was a 5th year senior in 09/10 while GMC was a Junior. So that’s not completely fair comparing those numbers. If we compare Suh’s redshirt Junior season (4th year) it’s a bit closer.

Suh – 7.5 sacks, 19 TFL, and 39/37/76 in tackles.

We expect McCoy to grow like Suh did his senior year in college. His rookie year he had a horrible D-line coach. His 2nd year he had no off-season OTAs and limited time with a good D-line coach before getting injured. The book is still open on GMC, he still hasn’t completed that “5th season” like Suh has. And Suh started off on fire as a rookie, then fell flat this year.

Again though… Suh wasn’t available when we drafted. It was either draft a different position, or take the 2nd best. We don’t know what happened in the draft room, they may have tried to trade down and couldn’t find a trade partner, so decided to take the best player at a position of immediate need there. That was GMC. None of us are screaming he’s a Pro Bowl player. But we also didn’t give up on him his rookie year. The same rookie year that had him at about the same point Suh would have been as a senior in college, but playing in the NFL instead. We don’t know what will become of him, good or bad, but don’t see any point in CONSTANTLY bashing him when we don’t know for sure what we have yet.

Call him soft if you want, but Suh had major knee surgery that kept him out a year of college ball, then rotator cuff surgery after his rookie NFL season. He didn’t miss games because of it, but he sure lost his effectiveness.

I have never claimed to have played or coached anything professionally – I haven’t. The only time I injected professional perspective into this discussion was when we were discussing the Talib charges in Texas – I thought it relevant to disclose what I do as did Eric while discussing our analysis of Talib’s potential incarceration.

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Uh, yeah, actually you do. That’s like me saying I watch CSI and know all the detective tricks, so I am a detective. I’m actually not a detective, no matter how much I pretend to be one. I can still have a conversation with a detective, but that doesn’t mean squat when it comes down to it. Sorry to break the news to you.

And yes, you have absolutely claimed to be a lawyer. You have also claimed to be an athlete. You make a lot of claims, so you probably just forgot.

The writing I do is connected with my work, and of course this for pleasure. I only have one paid professional gig, have never claimed to have another.

Also I have never claimed to have played or coached any sport professionally.