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	<title>Comments on: Report: Bucs Offered Kelly $6 Million Annually</title>
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		<title>By: Kixxs</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=61058&#038;cpage=2#comment-1397017</link>
		<dc:creator>Kixxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m from Oregon, living in Tampa Bay... life long Duck fan, first I can say from living most of my life in Oregon the reports in Portland often go off with a story without all the facts.  First, Berk&#039;s claims are suspect when he says Kelly took the job and the HC job was offer to the Offensive Coordinator, yet the interview the AD did he said he was waiting to hear what Kelly was going to do on Sunday. What kind of a professional would offer another person a job when they are waiting to hear if the other one is leaving?  REALLY?  Second. both the AD and Kelly state in verbal interviews Oregon did not give him more money to stay, it&#039;s public record and should be able to be verified.  Kelly does state they extended his contract but he was not given more money.  It&#039;s really sad how people call Chip a loser and make all kinds of comments when they really don&#039;t know what happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Oregon, living in Tampa Bay&#8230; life long Duck fan, first I can say from living most of my life in Oregon the reports in Portland often go off with a story without all the facts.  First, Berk&#8217;s claims are suspect when he says Kelly took the job and the HC job was offer to the Offensive Coordinator, yet the interview the AD did he said he was waiting to hear what Kelly was going to do on Sunday. What kind of a professional would offer another person a job when they are waiting to hear if the other one is leaving?  REALLY?  Second. both the AD and Kelly state in verbal interviews Oregon did not give him more money to stay, it&#8217;s public record and should be able to be verified.  Kelly does state they extended his contract but he was not given more money.  It&#8217;s really sad how people call Chip a loser and make all kinds of comments when they really don&#8217;t know what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Coach DeForrest</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=61058&#038;cpage=2#comment-1395434</link>
		<dc:creator>Coach DeForrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Berk,

You need to find some new sources!! You glory hound. Had a story on the tight lipped kelly.

Now you look like a idiot!!!

Oh well, say what you want! I&#039;m sure you enjoyed the spotlight when it happened!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berk,</p>
<p>You need to find some new sources!! You glory hound. Had a story on the tight lipped kelly.</p>
<p>Now you look like a idiot!!!</p>
<p>Oh well, say what you want! I&#8217;m sure you enjoyed the spotlight when it happened!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=61058&#038;cpage=2#comment-1390206</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did my comment get deleted or not go through?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did my comment get deleted or not go through?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=61058&#038;cpage=2#comment-1390185</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the issues that Tampa Bay has been having is allegedly they are trying to slash the severance packages of the coaches if they are fired, for assistants and the head coach. The Bucs are trying to save money by making changes there, but it is not sitting well with coaches. Last year there were top college assistants making more money than the Bucs assistant coaches. -walterfootball 

Didn&#039;t get all in the first post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the issues that Tampa Bay has been having is allegedly they are trying to slash the severance packages of the coaches if they are fired, for assistants and the head coach. The Bucs are trying to save money by making changes there, but it is not sitting well with coaches. Last year there were top college assistants making more money than the Bucs assistant coaches. -walterfootball </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t get all in the first post.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=61058&#038;cpage=2#comment-1390183</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sources said the Tampa Bay Buccaneers&#039; head coaching position has been turned down by six or seven coaches. That includes coaches declining interviews and actual negotiations about the position. Some of the known candidates to say no thanks are Oregon coach Chip Kelly, Texans defensive coordinator Wade Philips, new St. Louis Rams head coach Jeff Fisher and new Miami Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin. Sources said they believe the Bucs are interested in interviewing both of the New York Giants coordinators Perry Fewell and Kevin Gilbride.&quot; -Walterfootball

Looks cheap to me]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sources said the Tampa Bay Buccaneers&#8217; head coaching position has been turned down by six or seven coaches. That includes coaches declining interviews and actual negotiations about the position. Some of the known candidates to say no thanks are Oregon coach Chip Kelly, Texans defensive coordinator Wade Philips, new St. Louis Rams head coach Jeff Fisher and new Miami Dolphins head coach Joe Philbin. Sources said they believe the Bucs are interested in interviewing both of the New York Giants coordinators Perry Fewell and Kevin Gilbride.&#8221; -Walterfootball</p>
<p>Looks cheap to me</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=61058&#038;cpage=2#comment-1389120</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Naturally Joe would hear a rumor from a random reporter in Portland and treat it like fact. Since when did this guy get his hands on the contract offer? Did you hear that Dewey defeated Truman and Gore won Florida? Must be fact, someone once said it. 

And clearly spending big money on a coach...which the Glazers have not done as of today would make up for spending the least amount on player salaries of any NFL team since 2004. Because teams that come in 32 out of 32 teams in committed salaries aren&#039;t cheap...they&#039;re thrifty!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally Joe would hear a rumor from a random reporter in Portland and treat it like fact. Since when did this guy get his hands on the contract offer? Did you hear that Dewey defeated Truman and Gore won Florida? Must be fact, someone once said it. </p>
<p>And clearly spending big money on a coach&#8230;which the Glazers have not done as of today would make up for spending the least amount on player salaries of any NFL team since 2004. Because teams that come in 32 out of 32 teams in committed salaries aren&#8217;t cheap&#8230;they&#8217;re thrifty!</p>
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		<title>By: FuNkYxMuNkEy</title>
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		<dc:creator>FuNkYxMuNkEy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been a die hard Bucs fan for decades now.  But if we sign Sherman, it is a sign that until we get new owners our team is digressing.  This is getting ridiculous.  Every offseason we have &quot;let-downs&quot; and this is just the norm.  The fact its taking so long to get a HC is depressing to me.  It shows how other coaches feel about our owners and GM.  I am a supporting of Dom. but the owners baffel me.  I hope the report about 6mil is true.  But its easy to say we offered this much after the deal fell apart!  Kelly would of made our team fun again.  Hire Schott as HC and Zimmer as DC and our coach in waiting!  That could make our team good again.

Also trade Freeman, Trueblood(if we can get a 6th or 7th) jump on it.  Also, we need to redo our Secondary.  Get rid of everyone except maybe Talib.  Wait and see how is court day goes.  We need new LBs as well. Foster seems to be ok.  But everyone should be gone.  There is great FAs this offseason as well as in the draft.  Hopefully Claiborne is there at #5 and hopefully LaMichael James is there at #37 in the second.  Two much needed improvements.  And FA is in March so get it started.

There is a report that Darren McFadden is on the block.  Offer a 3rd for him and see what happens.  The Raiders only have a 5th round pick and thats it.  They want more...and even if we give a 3rd this season and next.  That would be a steal!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a die hard Bucs fan for decades now.  But if we sign Sherman, it is a sign that until we get new owners our team is digressing.  This is getting ridiculous.  Every offseason we have &#8220;let-downs&#8221; and this is just the norm.  The fact its taking so long to get a HC is depressing to me.  It shows how other coaches feel about our owners and GM.  I am a supporting of Dom. but the owners baffel me.  I hope the report about 6mil is true.  But its easy to say we offered this much after the deal fell apart!  Kelly would of made our team fun again.  Hire Schott as HC and Zimmer as DC and our coach in waiting!  That could make our team good again.</p>
<p>Also trade Freeman, Trueblood(if we can get a 6th or 7th) jump on it.  Also, we need to redo our Secondary.  Get rid of everyone except maybe Talib.  Wait and see how is court day goes.  We need new LBs as well. Foster seems to be ok.  But everyone should be gone.  There is great FAs this offseason as well as in the draft.  Hopefully Claiborne is there at #5 and hopefully LaMichael James is there at #37 in the second.  Two much needed improvements.  And FA is in March so get it started.</p>
<p>There is a report that Darren McFadden is on the block.  Offer a 3rd for him and see what happens.  The Raiders only have a 5th round pick and thats it.  They want more&#8230;and even if we give a 3rd this season and next.  That would be a steal!</p>
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		<title>By: ALSTOTTSMART!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALSTOTTSMART!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In addition to the McNabb game, there was also blowout playoff losses to the Rams, Falcons (at home), and Vikings. Compound that with the 4-12 season was enough for the Packers.

At A&amp;M, MOST teams in the Big12 had eye opening offensive numbers (Texas, Texas Tech, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, etc). Since he is going for the head coaching position, I&#039;m looking at his record there, which was mediocre at best. If he is just up for the Bucs OC position, then I&#039;ll look more just at his scoring.

The fact he was fired from his last two jobs probably means zero to some people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the McNabb game, there was also blowout playoff losses to the Rams, Falcons (at home), and Vikings. Compound that with the 4-12 season was enough for the Packers.</p>
<p>At A&amp;M, MOST teams in the Big12 had eye opening offensive numbers (Texas, Texas Tech, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, etc). Since he is going for the head coaching position, I&#8217;m looking at his record there, which was mediocre at best. If he is just up for the Bucs OC position, then I&#8217;ll look more just at his scoring.</p>
<p>The fact he was fired from his last two jobs probably means zero to some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Jexpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jexpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So people are going to believe Michael Berk?

Might want to go back and check his record.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So people are going to believe Michael Berk?</p>
<p>Might want to go back and check his record.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone please explain to me exactly how Sherman drove the Packers downhill? He only had one losing season during his 6 seasons at Green Bay, a 4-12 record in 2005 with a team that was plagued with injuries! He had a 9-7 record in 2000, then made the playoffs in 01, 02, 03, and 04. 

Those of you that bash him for not getting Favre to an NFC Championship game......only reason it didn&#039;t happen is because of the miracle 4th and 26 play by McNabb.

At Texas A&amp;M this past year.......he coached an offense that was actually pretty damn good and entertaining. They were scoring 35-50 points numerous times throughout the season, but they went 6-6 because of their horrible defense and close last second losses.

I&#039;d rather have Marty or Zimmer, but I wouldn&#039;t be miserable if Sherman came here. I wouldn&#039;t really be concerned about whether he&#039;d do a good job or not, I&#039;d be concerned about how bad and nasty the reaction is going to be from both the fans and critics. That&#039;s really the reason I haven&#039;t been in favor of Sherman. If everybody was more in favor of it, I would be as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please explain to me exactly how Sherman drove the Packers downhill? He only had one losing season during his 6 seasons at Green Bay, a 4-12 record in 2005 with a team that was plagued with injuries! He had a 9-7 record in 2000, then made the playoffs in 01, 02, 03, and 04. </p>
<p>Those of you that bash him for not getting Favre to an NFC Championship game&#8230;&#8230;only reason it didn&#8217;t happen is because of the miracle 4th and 26 play by McNabb.</p>
<p>At Texas A&amp;M this past year&#8230;&#8230;.he coached an offense that was actually pretty damn good and entertaining. They were scoring 35-50 points numerous times throughout the season, but they went 6-6 because of their horrible defense and close last second losses.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather have Marty or Zimmer, but I wouldn&#8217;t be miserable if Sherman came here. I wouldn&#8217;t really be concerned about whether he&#8217;d do a good job or not, I&#8217;d be concerned about how bad and nasty the reaction is going to be from both the fans and critics. That&#8217;s really the reason I haven&#8217;t been in favor of Sherman. If everybody was more in favor of it, I would be as well.</p>
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		<title>By: sensiblebuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>sensiblebuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ McBuc &amp; Thomas

As vocal as I&#039;ve been about not hiring Sherman, if he were hired I&#039;d get right on board and support him. He&#039;s had at least some modicum of success in the NFL regular season and playoffs...

Is he as bad a Rah? No, nobody is...except for Josh McDaniels, Todd Haley, &amp; Steve Spagnolo. My argument is that we shouldn&#039;t just get ANY coach better than Raheem Morris. We need a guy to come in and stem the tide of losses and turn around what&#039;s quickly becoming a negative/weak culture at OBP. 

My basic argument against Sherman is that his career arc has been on a downward trajectory ever since he received the head coaching gig in Green Bay (Super Bowl talent; mediocre achievement; Favre) and he doesn&#039;t seem to have improved/changed his leadership style in his time at Texas A&amp;M (bad in-game management, no adjustments, deer-in-the-headlights looks). 

If we&#039;re going to hire our CEO why not get a guy who has exhibited significant long-term success in the NFL (Marty) or a guy is hot right now (Zimmer or Clements) instead of a guy who is neither (Sherman or Chilly)?

I&#039;ve got big expectations of the next guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ McBuc &amp; Thomas</p>
<p>As vocal as I&#8217;ve been about not hiring Sherman, if he were hired I&#8217;d get right on board and support him. He&#8217;s had at least some modicum of success in the NFL regular season and playoffs&#8230;</p>
<p>Is he as bad a Rah? No, nobody is&#8230;except for Josh McDaniels, Todd Haley, &amp; Steve Spagnolo. My argument is that we shouldn&#8217;t just get ANY coach better than Raheem Morris. We need a guy to come in and stem the tide of losses and turn around what&#8217;s quickly becoming a negative/weak culture at OBP. </p>
<p>My basic argument against Sherman is that his career arc has been on a downward trajectory ever since he received the head coaching gig in Green Bay (Super Bowl talent; mediocre achievement; Favre) and he doesn&#8217;t seem to have improved/changed his leadership style in his time at Texas A&amp;M (bad in-game management, no adjustments, deer-in-the-headlights looks). </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re going to hire our CEO why not get a guy who has exhibited significant long-term success in the NFL (Marty) or a guy is hot right now (Zimmer or Clements) instead of a guy who is neither (Sherman or Chilly)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got big expectations of the next guy.</p>
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		<title>By: fishduck</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It took Kelly 2 years under Belotti to get the kids they wanted to run the high tempo spread option he  coaches . Maybe the Buc can&#039;t get the personal he needs to run it the way he wants . In the pros that might take a few years .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took Kelly 2 years under Belotti to get the kids they wanted to run the high tempo spread option he  coaches . Maybe the Buc can&#8217;t get the personal he needs to run it the way he wants . In the pros that might take a few years .</p>
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