Comments on: Doug Williams Fires Candid Shots At Mark Dominik

By: Pete 422

Pete 422 — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:43:40 +0000

I’m sorry, but Doug Williams has never struck me as being the brightest candle on the cake, so I don’t put much stock in what he says. Kind of like watching Matt Millen evaluate NFL teams on TV.

By: Anthony

Anthony — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 06:12:24 +0000

#10 on the money again. Shaun King was right about this one too, he’s said it on his radio multiple times.

By: Architek

Architek — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:00:03 +0000

This franchise has reached an all time low and its sad that people can sit back and accept this. Makes me truly appreciate the Polians, Jerry Jones, Arthur Blank, and Kraft. Dominik is not deserving of this much clout and that’s not his fault. Ownership has to restore the respectability of this franchise.

By: eric

eric — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:15:17 +0000

Oh I am sure Dom would be in huge demand if he were fired tomorrow.

As to Dexter Jackson and your assertion that Doug Williams drafted him here are some remarks from Mr. Dominik:

In particular, they want him returning punts and kicks. In fact, Jackson’s ability to help the offense before it even takes the field is the primary reason the Bucs selected the 5-foot-9, 182-pounder from Dunwoody, Ga.

“We looked at him as a returner-receiver who hopefully can develop,” Dominik said. “In this league, if you want a returner you’ve got to go get one. They’re hard to just pick off. And we haven’t done that in forever.”

Kinda sorta sounds like Mr. Dominik was involved, doesn’t it?

Hmmmmmmmmm hard to hear from your idol I imagine.

By: bucbacker59

bucbacker59 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:26:11 +0000

To use your example “You know if a guy is really good at something, its not really a subject of dispute. Walsh, Belichick, etc.” – on the flip side, if a guy is really bad at something, it is also not a “subject of dispute” because no one will hire them or promote them – ie Doug Williams. After his time here in Tampa, nobody realized the huge mistake we had made and placed him in their front office. Even after self-marketing he could not find a personnel job.
This thread wasn’t for discussing whether or not Mark Dominik is a quality GM. It was a discussion on the events surrounding Doug Williams’ exit from Tampa.
I believe the Dominik bashers are much more prevelant in web-casting than those that are “idolizing” him.

By: eric

eric — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:05:01 +0000

Interestingly, folks blame Doug Williams for picks like Dexter Jackson, even though he wasn’t the GM.

However, Dom is always completely exonnerated and blameless for any picks that were made prior to his tunure as GM, even though he had a lot more authority and influence than Doug.

A tangled web of deception IMO in the never ending quest for idolizing Mark Dominik.

You know if a guy is really good at something, its not really a subject of dispute. Walsh, Belichick, etc.

It speaks for itself, and requires no amplification.

Like if your team goes on a lasting contender tear, ya got a good GM. That hasnt happened yet to my knowledge. 10 straight losses to end a season is not a demonstration of outstanding GM performance.

By: CC

CC — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:06:00 +0000

The HC that will be hired will tell alot about the future of the Bucs.

By: bucbacker59

bucbacker59 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:57:26 +0000

I would like to know what Doug Williams did in his time as a personnel guy in Tampa that would merit him keeping his job? This is an honest question. The only personnel or draft decision I can even remotely remember him being in on was Dexter Jackson – he was adamant that Jackson was the real deal. He admitted in the interview that he was not in on personnel discussions to a very deep level. What exactly did he do at OBP to help make the team better?
The truth is that when Dominik got the GM job, Williams was lucky to get an additional nine months (or whatever it was). Doug loves him some Doug. Those that know Doug and have been around him are very aware of his lack of work ethic. People in the league are very aware of his evaluation limitations and his inability to scout talent proficiently. If this were not the case, you would have seen a figurehead like Doug hired immediately in some other team’s front office when he made it clear that he wanted to be a GM (which he did shortly after the Gru/Allen firing). Nobody wanted the guy. People in the league know about him. It is common knowledge.

His hiring and continued employment in Tampa was only an olive branch to attempt to mend a broken relationship. However, when given the opportunity to step forward and show some ability, he failed mightily.
Say what you will about Dominik. He and every other GM in the league have their share of misses. However, in this situation, he was not the guilty party.

By: MTM

MTM — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:34:26 +0000

@ Rob you nailed it. Pop star probably has pay structure that gives him a bonus based on payroll not wins and losses. The Bucs HC search is now listed on Craig list.

By: thomas

thomas — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:34:06 +0000

one thing i’ve learned in life is that manager’s will rarely, practically never, will let go of someone who is making them look good. regardless of the good ole boy system. if your are consistently productive and your attitude is right IT MAKES NO SENSE to dismiss that person regardless of ‘differences’ that make the disconnect. its like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
“Surround yourself with people who take their work seriously, but not themselves, those who work hard and play hard.” ~ C Powell

By: thomas

thomas — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:30:30 +0000

one thing i’ve learned in life is that manager’s will rarely, practically never, will let go of someone who is making them look good. regardless of the good ole boy system. if your are consistently productive and your attitude is right IT MAKES NO SENSE to dismiss that person regardless of ‘differences’ that make the disconnect. its like cutting off your nose despite your face.
“Surround yourself with people who take their work seriously, but not themselves, those who work hard and play hard.” ~ C Powell

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:28:40 +0000

I am starting to wonder if the main reason the Buc’s cannot land the big time coach they desperately need is because of the Cheapsters marriage to Dominick. The owners are keeping their GM regardless of how this is narrowing or eliminating several coaches from the running of being head coach for our beloved Bucs. I just want ownership to step up and open their minds and wallets. If the best coach wants a new general manager, so be it. Otherwise, the best coach may not want his hands tied on personnel decisions and not even consider the Buc’s job. Sad.