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		<title>By: BecklesHeartsRuud</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-644307</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas 2.2 named Caddy, Ruud, and Stylez &quot;I don&#039;t give a #$#% bout no practice&quot; White as big time &quot;losses&quot; and reasons why the Bucs may be worse. So Caddy and Ruud both signed 1 year &quot;this team thinks im mediocre at best&quot; contracts and Stylez White is still unemployed at this late hour of free agency. But yeah... the loss of those three guys is going to be the deciding factor on the improvement of this team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas 2.2 named Caddy, Ruud, and Stylez &#8220;I don&#8217;t give a #$#% bout no practice&#8221; White as big time &#8220;losses&#8221; and reasons why the Bucs may be worse. So Caddy and Ruud both signed 1 year &#8220;this team thinks im mediocre at best&#8221; contracts and Stylez White is still unemployed at this late hour of free agency. But yeah&#8230; the loss of those three guys is going to be the deciding factor on the improvement of this team.</p>
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		<title>By: BecklesHeartsRuud</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-644146</link>
		<dc:creator>BecklesHeartsRuud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To put it bluntly Capt. Tim - the fact that your biggest Ruud co-cheerleader is Thomas 2.2 should show you which side of this argument your on- the wrong one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put it bluntly Capt. Tim &#8211; the fact that your biggest Ruud co-cheerleader is Thomas 2.2 should show you which side of this argument your on- the wrong one.</p>
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		<title>By: BecklesHeartsRuud</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-644142</link>
		<dc:creator>BecklesHeartsRuud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capt. Tim- The only one who is nauseatingly ignorant is someone who thinks our GM actually makes move to appease Ian Beckles and sports radio callers. Give me a break dude. The proof is in the pudding. Ruud was among the absolute least pursued linebackers in free agency. Ultimately garnering only a one year stopgap contract. Ronde Barber is a cornerback not a personnel evaluator. Good player does not equal good talent evaluator.  Maybe you should go root for the Titans since you are apparently a bigger Barrett Ruud fan than a Bucs fan. Get over it dude. Ruud is gone. He isn&#039;t making any pro-bowls with the Titans either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capt. Tim- The only one who is nauseatingly ignorant is someone who thinks our GM actually makes move to appease Ian Beckles and sports radio callers. Give me a break dude. The proof is in the pudding. Ruud was among the absolute least pursued linebackers in free agency. Ultimately garnering only a one year stopgap contract. Ronde Barber is a cornerback not a personnel evaluator. Good player does not equal good talent evaluator.  Maybe you should go root for the Titans since you are apparently a bigger Barrett Ruud fan than a Bucs fan. Get over it dude. Ruud is gone. He isn&#8217;t making any pro-bowls with the Titans either.</p>
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		<title>By: McBuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>McBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do some of you guys point to the close wins, and you ignore the close losses?  Besides, like the saying goes, a W is a W, regardless of the score.  The actual score only matters to gamblers trying to cover the spread.  20 years from now a 10 - 6 record reflects a 10 - 6 record.  The barely win argument is tired, so let&#039;s focus on this season and hope our Bucs repeat the same succes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do some of you guys point to the close wins, and you ignore the close losses?  Besides, like the saying goes, a W is a W, regardless of the score.  The actual score only matters to gamblers trying to cover the spread.  20 years from now a 10 &#8211; 6 record reflects a 10 &#8211; 6 record.  The barely win argument is tired, so let&#8217;s focus on this season and hope our Bucs repeat the same succes.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-642492</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m starting to really hate Barrett Ruud.  Not because of his play, but because he is gone and we are continuing to argue about him.  Who gives a flying (you know what) about him anymore?!  He&#039;s not Ray Lewis.  He&#039;s at absolute best a slightly above average MLB.  In football, losing a slightly above average player is not a catastrophe.  I would guess there would be plays (and games) this year where we will wish we had him because of a mistake he wouldn&#039;t have made, but at the same time there will be plays (and games) where plays are made that he is not capable of making.  In the end, we will be fine.  Regardless of if we win 1 game or 16 games, Barrett Ruud will not be the reason.  He&#039;s just not that good, very few players are.

I, like most people, wish we would have done a little in free agency.  I understand why people would be very disappointed and question the organization.  However, besides the DLine (which we have invested so much in over the last 2 years with the draft) and MLB, I really can&#039;t think of a position that we really NEED to bring in more talent.  Nnamdi would have been wonderful, but in reality he would be a luxury pick.  The talent is there at every position now, it&#039;s just green.  I don&#039;t know if it is a good idea to take players off the field to be replaced by veterans, because it could potentially stunt their growth.  If we are awful this year, then I think our complaints will be justified, but Dominik has proven to me that he is better at running an NFL team than I am.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting to really hate Barrett Ruud.  Not because of his play, but because he is gone and we are continuing to argue about him.  Who gives a flying (you know what) about him anymore?!  He&#8217;s not Ray Lewis.  He&#8217;s at absolute best a slightly above average MLB.  In football, losing a slightly above average player is not a catastrophe.  I would guess there would be plays (and games) this year where we will wish we had him because of a mistake he wouldn&#8217;t have made, but at the same time there will be plays (and games) where plays are made that he is not capable of making.  In the end, we will be fine.  Regardless of if we win 1 game or 16 games, Barrett Ruud will not be the reason.  He&#8217;s just not that good, very few players are.</p>
<p>I, like most people, wish we would have done a little in free agency.  I understand why people would be very disappointed and question the organization.  However, besides the DLine (which we have invested so much in over the last 2 years with the draft) and MLB, I really can&#8217;t think of a position that we really NEED to bring in more talent.  Nnamdi would have been wonderful, but in reality he would be a luxury pick.  The talent is there at every position now, it&#8217;s just green.  I don&#8217;t know if it is a good idea to take players off the field to be replaced by veterans, because it could potentially stunt their growth.  If we are awful this year, then I think our complaints will be justified, but Dominik has proven to me that he is better at running an NFL team than I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavster</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-642196</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 07:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who is going to call all the audibles on defense.??  Ruud may not have been a great run stuffer but I don&#039;t think I have ever seen him truly make the wrong play. And didn&#039;t he force a fumble near the goalline in that saints game? Idk ruud may be soft but his football iq is outstanding .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is going to call all the audibles on defense.??  Ruud may not have been a great run stuffer but I don&#8217;t think I have ever seen him truly make the wrong play. And didn&#8217;t he force a fumble near the goalline in that saints game? Idk ruud may be soft but his football iq is outstanding .</p>
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		<title>By: BamBamBuc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-642037</link>
		<dc:creator>BamBamBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 05:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Architek, just curious about one of the facts...

Several RBs flattened our &quot;leader&quot;.... well, that would imply more than two, so I&#039;d like to know which three (or more) and I guess that depends on the definition of &quot;flattened&quot;.  The most discussed &quot;flattening&quot; was the Chris Ivory run.  Of course it&#039;s all but forgotten that on the exact same drive Ruud forced the fumble at the goal line to prevent the TD and regain possession.

Not that it really matters, Ruud is gone.  Like him or hate him, he&#039;s not on our team and all we have to worry about is who will step up and how will they do.  If anyone wants to gauge Ruud&#039;s performance this year, please don&#039;t look at the rushing numbers against the Buccaneers.  Go look at the rushing numbers of the team he plays for.  Look at the tackles and forced fumbles and INTs and all the other stats you want.  But look at the team he now plays for.  His absence from our team will not determine whether we are 10th or 18th or 31st or whatever against the run... That will all be reliant upon the guys we have on this team now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Architek, just curious about one of the facts&#8230;</p>
<p>Several RBs flattened our &#8220;leader&#8221;&#8230;. well, that would imply more than two, so I&#8217;d like to know which three (or more) and I guess that depends on the definition of &#8220;flattened&#8221;.  The most discussed &#8220;flattening&#8221; was the Chris Ivory run.  Of course it&#8217;s all but forgotten that on the exact same drive Ruud forced the fumble at the goal line to prevent the TD and regain possession.</p>
<p>Not that it really matters, Ruud is gone.  Like him or hate him, he&#8217;s not on our team and all we have to worry about is who will step up and how will they do.  If anyone wants to gauge Ruud&#8217;s performance this year, please don&#8217;t look at the rushing numbers against the Buccaneers.  Go look at the rushing numbers of the team he plays for.  Look at the tackles and forced fumbles and INTs and all the other stats you want.  But look at the team he now plays for.  His absence from our team will not determine whether we are 10th or 18th or 31st or whatever against the run&#8230; That will all be reliant upon the guys we have on this team now.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-641854</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 03:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruud is only viable in a 4-3/cover 2 type of scheme and there are not many teams out there that run the scheme and the teams that do already have great or better players at the MLB position (Bears, Colts, Giants, Vikings). 

We might miss Ruud in the short term but we want long term greatness and I doubt Ruud would have given us that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruud is only viable in a 4-3/cover 2 type of scheme and there are not many teams out there that run the scheme and the teams that do already have great or better players at the MLB position (Bears, Colts, Giants, Vikings). </p>
<p>We might miss Ruud in the short term but we want long term greatness and I doubt Ruud would have given us that.</p>
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		<title>By: Architek</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-641790</link>
		<dc:creator>Architek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 02:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please do not debate with Thomas (insufficient) or CaptTim (arrogant). Both of them go out of their way to prove a point and both get defensive if you do not agree with the status quo. I am not with the nice guy crap because it doesn&#039;t win on the field and in life. Wanna argue Thomas, argue facts:

Ruud is gone and that&#039;s a fact.
Not many teams wanted him, based on reports and a one year term, fact.
Black was retained-paid more and that&#039;s a fact.
Black is a better athelete and more upside, Bucs say and NFL says fact. 
Bucs are committed to long term building, fact.
The Bucs beat the Saints in Week 17, that&#039;s a fact.
The Bucs were in the bottom portion of the league against the run, fact.
Several running back flattened our &quot;leader&quot; on defense, fact.
Bucs are ascending, regardless of our opinion, fact.
Bucs will have a young MLB that will make mistakes, fact.
Bucs coaching staff will be under enormous pressure to produce, fact.
Bucs can win and qualify for the playoffs, fact. (If they perform and grow)

The point here is some of you arrogant fans ignore that we would not be here without change. It&#039;s funny how you all see what you want to see and make things negative. Everyone mocked the Bucs for hiring Dom/Morris. They mocked the youth movement. They mocked the signings, mocked the decisions of the Glazers and now look at our fan base. We are a fragile and young fan base that turn our back on our team quickly. The Cowboys and Redskins all have been losers for a long time but at least their fans support the team through it all. Dammit, I stand behiind my team and I proved it by driving to Tampa 2 years ago to see the week 1 loss to Dallas and I coming to this years game against Saints in Tampa (not driving again-lol). Guys, Ruud play is on film and it&#039;s evident that no one was chomping at the bit to sign him. He thought his payday was awaiting him and he didn&#039;t factor in whether you play Tampa-2, 4-3, 3-4, 46, or hybrid the game is still between the hashes. Tackle, cover, and hit. Also I don&#039;t want a sensitive MLB that can&#039;t take criticism but yet he can give a half-ass effort in avoiding contact. ITS ON FILM. IF IT WASN&#039;T HE WOULD HAVE A CONTRACT TWO YEARS AGO. MLB&#039;s are like QB&#039;s they don&#039;t sniff free agency if their worth keeping. Like the Commish said,&quot; The writing was on the wall years ago.&quot; Penn got paid and Ruud didn&#039;t. Case closed. 

Without change there is no growth in a rebuilding organization. Even at your job&#039;s, what do you think happens when there is no production or when there is no ROI? Changes are coming and movement happen. Can you say that finishing bottom half against the run is a cry for change when you are drafting young talented lineman and you still are geting gashed left and right, even with Sims and Hovan and co. Yes these are facts and justifiable change. Best wishes to him and his family. In the long run, the ceiling is higher for Foster or McKenzie. I like their attitudes and the fire. It&#039;s all on tape. 

You miss the playcalling but not the playmaking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please do not debate with Thomas (insufficient) or CaptTim (arrogant). Both of them go out of their way to prove a point and both get defensive if you do not agree with the status quo. I am not with the nice guy crap because it doesn&#8217;t win on the field and in life. Wanna argue Thomas, argue facts:</p>
<p>Ruud is gone and that&#8217;s a fact.<br />
Not many teams wanted him, based on reports and a one year term, fact.<br />
Black was retained-paid more and that&#8217;s a fact.<br />
Black is a better athelete and more upside, Bucs say and NFL says fact.<br />
Bucs are committed to long term building, fact.<br />
The Bucs beat the Saints in Week 17, that&#8217;s a fact.<br />
The Bucs were in the bottom portion of the league against the run, fact.<br />
Several running back flattened our &#8220;leader&#8221; on defense, fact.<br />
Bucs are ascending, regardless of our opinion, fact.<br />
Bucs will have a young MLB that will make mistakes, fact.<br />
Bucs coaching staff will be under enormous pressure to produce, fact.<br />
Bucs can win and qualify for the playoffs, fact. (If they perform and grow)</p>
<p>The point here is some of you arrogant fans ignore that we would not be here without change. It&#8217;s funny how you all see what you want to see and make things negative. Everyone mocked the Bucs for hiring Dom/Morris. They mocked the youth movement. They mocked the signings, mocked the decisions of the Glazers and now look at our fan base. We are a fragile and young fan base that turn our back on our team quickly. The Cowboys and Redskins all have been losers for a long time but at least their fans support the team through it all. Dammit, I stand behiind my team and I proved it by driving to Tampa 2 years ago to see the week 1 loss to Dallas and I coming to this years game against Saints in Tampa (not driving again-lol). Guys, Ruud play is on film and it&#8217;s evident that no one was chomping at the bit to sign him. He thought his payday was awaiting him and he didn&#8217;t factor in whether you play Tampa-2, 4-3, 3-4, 46, or hybrid the game is still between the hashes. Tackle, cover, and hit. Also I don&#8217;t want a sensitive MLB that can&#8217;t take criticism but yet he can give a half-ass effort in avoiding contact. ITS ON FILM. IF IT WASN&#8217;T HE WOULD HAVE A CONTRACT TWO YEARS AGO. MLB&#8217;s are like QB&#8217;s they don&#8217;t sniff free agency if their worth keeping. Like the Commish said,&#8221; The writing was on the wall years ago.&#8221; Penn got paid and Ruud didn&#8217;t. Case closed. </p>
<p>Without change there is no growth in a rebuilding organization. Even at your job&#8217;s, what do you think happens when there is no production or when there is no ROI? Changes are coming and movement happen. Can you say that finishing bottom half against the run is a cry for change when you are drafting young talented lineman and you still are geting gashed left and right, even with Sims and Hovan and co. Yes these are facts and justifiable change. Best wishes to him and his family. In the long run, the ceiling is higher for Foster or McKenzie. I like their attitudes and the fire. It&#8217;s all on tape. </p>
<p>You miss the playcalling but not the playmaking.</p>
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		<title>By: BamBamBuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>BamBamBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas, you need to pay better attention.  This from NFL.com after the week 16 Saints win against Atlanta...

 &quot;The loss doesn&#039;t ruin Atlanta&#039;s two primary goals. The Falcons can still wrap up their first division crown since 2004 and home field through the NFC playoffs by knocking off two-win Carolina at home in the final week of the season.&quot;

This means that if the Saints won in week 17, and the Falcons lost, the Saints would have won the division.  I know the Falcons losing to Carolina in week 17 was very unlikely, but the Saints did have a chance and did play to win until they heard the Falcons were killing the Panthers and took their starters out in the 4th quarter.  It wasn&#039;t a meaningless game for the Saints.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, you need to pay better attention.  This from NFL.com after the week 16 Saints win against Atlanta&#8230;</p>
<p> &#8220;The loss doesn&#8217;t ruin Atlanta&#8217;s two primary goals. The Falcons can still wrap up their first division crown since 2004 and home field through the NFC playoffs by knocking off two-win Carolina at home in the final week of the season.&#8221;</p>
<p>This means that if the Saints won in week 17, and the Falcons lost, the Saints would have won the division.  I know the Falcons losing to Carolina in week 17 was very unlikely, but the Saints did have a chance and did play to win until they heard the Falcons were killing the Panthers and took their starters out in the 4th quarter.  It wasn&#8217;t a meaningless game for the Saints.</p>
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		<title>By: FLBoyInDallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLBoyInDallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen to that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Garv</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=52004&#038;cpage=1#comment-641642</link>
		<dc:creator>Garv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 00:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listen guys, this is a process. I DO know that for the next 5- 10 years our Buccaneers are going to be very competitive in the South and beyond. Though I want to see us in the playoffs now, this year, I also know that the Saints are still the team to beat with the Falcons right behind them in our division. COULD we win it? Sure! But the fact is this team is in it for the long haul and I am 100% behind that philosophy. 

And I sure as hell enjoy future stars learning on the job right here right now.
I&#039;m going to have a lot of fun this season and NO amount of uneducated and totally unnecessary negativity is going to change that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen guys, this is a process. I DO know that for the next 5- 10 years our Buccaneers are going to be very competitive in the South and beyond. Though I want to see us in the playoffs now, this year, I also know that the Saints are still the team to beat with the Falcons right behind them in our division. COULD we win it? Sure! But the fact is this team is in it for the long haul and I am 100% behind that philosophy. </p>
<p>And I sure as hell enjoy future stars learning on the job right here right now.<br />
I&#8217;m going to have a lot of fun this season and NO amount of uneducated and totally unnecessary negativity is going to change that.</p>
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