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		<title>By: SacBucsFan</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=46911&#038;cpage=1#comment-385700</link>
		<dc:creator>SacBucsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like it but its true, if we let him go some other team will pick him up in a heartbeat.  But there is an answer, it just involves opening up the pocket book.  There is a pretty good corner from Oakland that has his head on his shoulders properly.  Instead of spending his off season hitting cabbies and waving around guns, he takes underprivileged high school kids on college tours.  That is the kind of character you want in your locker room.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like it but its true, if we let him go some other team will pick him up in a heartbeat.  But there is an answer, it just involves opening up the pocket book.  There is a pretty good corner from Oakland that has his head on his shoulders properly.  Instead of spending his off season hitting cabbies and waving around guns, he takes underprivileged high school kids on college tours.  That is the kind of character you want in your locker room.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=46911&#038;cpage=1#comment-385623</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s all good Captain, and no, I didn&#039;t feel like you were attacking me.  You absolutely  have a right to want Talib off the team and I respect that.  I&#039;m just not sure I&#039;m with you.  If it is found he did shoot at Billings, then yeah, he&#039;s probably got to go for sure.  If he never handled the gun, then I don&#039;t see any reason why he should. 

I guess I disagree with the severity of some of the incidents. Trust me, just about everyone smokes weed in college, so that is almost a non issue for me.  He hasn&#039;t got popped for it in the NFL (yet), so to me it is a non-issue.  As for the fight with Boyd (I think that is who it was), I&#039;m not incredibly disturbed by it.  I don&#039;t know what happened, but fights happen far more than most people realize.  Using his helmet as a weapon and a cab driver as a punching bag are very serious.  No excuses for him on that one.  If he was going to be cut, it should have happened then.  It&#039;s laughable to me that the incident with the officials was a big deal.  I could give 2 sh!ts about that, especially with what the ref said to him first.  There was no violence, so I don&#039;t even count that as an incident.  He has only served a 1 game suspension his whole career, so he&#039;s not Pacman Jones or anything yet.  This latest one is the big if. If he&#039;s guilty, he&#039;s got to go.  If he is innocent, I wouldn&#039;t cut him.  My biggest point is to let it all play out.  

He is not a great CB yet, but he is hanging out on the doorstep.  He has shown significant improvement each year, which to me is a sign that he does work very hard.  Maybe Joe can verify or deny this, but I have read stories elsewhere about how he often stays well after practice continuing to work.  

I don&#039;t necessarily buy the fact that he won&#039;t change.  I agree that some, and maybe even most, won&#039;t change, but not that nobody will change.  I trust that the organization will make the right determination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all good Captain, and no, I didn&#8217;t feel like you were attacking me.  You absolutely  have a right to want Talib off the team and I respect that.  I&#8217;m just not sure I&#8217;m with you.  If it is found he did shoot at Billings, then yeah, he&#8217;s probably got to go for sure.  If he never handled the gun, then I don&#8217;t see any reason why he should. </p>
<p>I guess I disagree with the severity of some of the incidents. Trust me, just about everyone smokes weed in college, so that is almost a non issue for me.  He hasn&#8217;t got popped for it in the NFL (yet), so to me it is a non-issue.  As for the fight with Boyd (I think that is who it was), I&#8217;m not incredibly disturbed by it.  I don&#8217;t know what happened, but fights happen far more than most people realize.  Using his helmet as a weapon and a cab driver as a punching bag are very serious.  No excuses for him on that one.  If he was going to be cut, it should have happened then.  It&#8217;s laughable to me that the incident with the officials was a big deal.  I could give 2 sh!ts about that, especially with what the ref said to him first.  There was no violence, so I don&#8217;t even count that as an incident.  He has only served a 1 game suspension his whole career, so he&#8217;s not Pacman Jones or anything yet.  This latest one is the big if. If he&#8217;s guilty, he&#8217;s got to go.  If he is innocent, I wouldn&#8217;t cut him.  My biggest point is to let it all play out.  </p>
<p>He is not a great CB yet, but he is hanging out on the doorstep.  He has shown significant improvement each year, which to me is a sign that he does work very hard.  Maybe Joe can verify or deny this, but I have read stories elsewhere about how he often stays well after practice continuing to work.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t necessarily buy the fact that he won&#8217;t change.  I agree that some, and maybe even most, won&#8217;t change, but not that nobody will change.  I trust that the organization will make the right determination.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt.Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=46911&#038;cpage=1#comment-385521</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt.Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hawaiian Buc- I resect your opinion and you alot also. hope that last comment didn&#039;t sound like I was attacking you. I wasn&#039;t, and apologize if it came across wrong

The comment was stating my point. Talib has averaged two incidents a year since he&#039;s been here. contrary to some of the post here, he is not a great CB yet. He has potential, but is too ignorant to ever live up to it. We DON&#039;T NEED him.there are 4 FA CBs ranked higher than him available right now. All 4 are incident free in their careers. Raheem is very high on Lewis and Biggers. Biggers is the kind of guy you want to to see succeed. 7th rounder, putting in the extra work and time to succeed. 

Talib is poison, and will damage this team. I&#039;ve spent alot of time dealing with guys like him. He won&#039;t change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawaiian Buc- I resect your opinion and you alot also. hope that last comment didn&#8217;t sound like I was attacking you. I wasn&#8217;t, and apologize if it came across wrong</p>
<p>The comment was stating my point. Talib has averaged two incidents a year since he&#8217;s been here. contrary to some of the post here, he is not a great CB yet. He has potential, but is too ignorant to ever live up to it. We DON&#8217;T NEED him.there are 4 FA CBs ranked higher than him available right now. All 4 are incident free in their careers. Raheem is very high on Lewis and Biggers. Biggers is the kind of guy you want to to see succeed. 7th rounder, putting in the extra work and time to succeed. </p>
<p>Talib is poison, and will damage this team. I&#8217;ve spent alot of time dealing with guys like him. He won&#8217;t change.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capt. Tim,

I like you a lot and I really respect you as a fan of this team, but come on man, ape!  You are better than that.  I&#039;m not saying his previous incidents aren&#039;t bad, but my point is that if he is innocent on this case, why should he all of a sudden be punished now?  If you wanted him off the team BEFORE this incident, then fine, I can&#039;t really argue that.  I don&#039;t know how he really is on a day in and day out basis, I&#039;m not there.  That&#039;s the decision of the coach and GM, they know better than all of us.  I have no idea whether he&#039;s robbing people daily or singing country songs by the campfire with orphans.  Neither do you.  In life, I make it a point to not feel too strongly one way or the other on a situation that I don&#039;t have enough knowledge of.  As I&#039;ve said time and time again, I&#039;m not a fan of getting rid of someone, just to have them go somewhere else and shine.  We are not a better team without Talib, as long as he is not a cancer in the locker room (which again, none of us know).   

I have a daughter too, so I get where you are coming from.  However, you don&#039;t have to cheer for him, you cheer for the team.  Don&#039;t buy his jersey.  If you see him on the street, don&#039;t shake his hand.  Don&#039;t ask for his autograph.  You don&#039;t need to make excuses for him.  It is very naive to believe that he is the only &quot;thug&quot; on this team, or any team for that matter.   My daughter is six, and I&#039;ve already explained to her that not everyone on the team is a nice guy, just like not every one of our neighbors is a nice person, etc. etc.  She gets it, I&#039;m pretty sure your daughter will too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capt. Tim,</p>
<p>I like you a lot and I really respect you as a fan of this team, but come on man, ape!  You are better than that.  I&#8217;m not saying his previous incidents aren&#8217;t bad, but my point is that if he is innocent on this case, why should he all of a sudden be punished now?  If you wanted him off the team BEFORE this incident, then fine, I can&#8217;t really argue that.  I don&#8217;t know how he really is on a day in and day out basis, I&#8217;m not there.  That&#8217;s the decision of the coach and GM, they know better than all of us.  I have no idea whether he&#8217;s robbing people daily or singing country songs by the campfire with orphans.  Neither do you.  In life, I make it a point to not feel too strongly one way or the other on a situation that I don&#8217;t have enough knowledge of.  As I&#8217;ve said time and time again, I&#8217;m not a fan of getting rid of someone, just to have them go somewhere else and shine.  We are not a better team without Talib, as long as he is not a cancer in the locker room (which again, none of us know).   </p>
<p>I have a daughter too, so I get where you are coming from.  However, you don&#8217;t have to cheer for him, you cheer for the team.  Don&#8217;t buy his jersey.  If you see him on the street, don&#8217;t shake his hand.  Don&#8217;t ask for his autograph.  You don&#8217;t need to make excuses for him.  It is very naive to believe that he is the only &#8220;thug&#8221; on this team, or any team for that matter.   My daughter is six, and I&#8217;ve already explained to her that not everyone on the team is a nice guy, just like not every one of our neighbors is a nice person, etc. etc.  She gets it, I&#8217;m pretty sure your daughter will too.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt.Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=46911&#038;cpage=1#comment-384727</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt.Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hawaiian- if he&#039;s proven innocent?? Both Joe and I have printed the lengthy list of this Ape&#039;s previous &quot;incidents&quot;. To continue to compile problems shows a total lack of respect for both the team, his teammates, and the Fans. How long doesthat list need to be before everyone realizes that this guy doesn&#039;t care about anything but him self? Is this fair to the hard working guys in One Buc, like Josh and Gerald? Are you really willing to forgive this kind of behavior just for an interception or two? I&#039;m not gonna stand their cheering for a guy, and have my daughter ask- &quot;is that the guy who always gets arrested?&quot;. &quot;yeah honey, now cheer, I bought you his jersey!&quot;

Not me pal. Enough is enough, and to be willing to win at all cost is to expensive for me! I&#039;d rather cheer for a hard working, less talented guy who&#039;ll sign her autographs, than make excuses fir invited a criminal to town as a hero.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawaiian- if he&#8217;s proven innocent?? Both Joe and I have printed the lengthy list of this Ape&#8217;s previous &#8220;incidents&#8221;. To continue to compile problems shows a total lack of respect for both the team, his teammates, and the Fans. How long doesthat list need to be before everyone realizes that this guy doesn&#8217;t care about anything but him self? Is this fair to the hard working guys in One Buc, like Josh and Gerald? Are you really willing to forgive this kind of behavior just for an interception or two? I&#8217;m not gonna stand their cheering for a guy, and have my daughter ask- &#8220;is that the guy who always gets arrested?&#8221;. &#8220;yeah honey, now cheer, I bought you his jersey!&#8221;</p>
<p>Not me pal. Enough is enough, and to be willing to win at all cost is to expensive for me! I&#8217;d rather cheer for a hard working, less talented guy who&#8217;ll sign her autographs, than make excuses fir invited a criminal to town as a hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yes, double standards exist everywhere, get used to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, double standards exist everywhere, get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Buc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey genius (Thomas), in case you didn&#039;t know they can&#039;t cut him right now.  There&#039;s this thing called a lockout in case you missed it.  

I really surprised that so many people are so quick to convict this guy, when I have seen very little evidence that proves him guilty, other than the word of Billings.  I&#039;m assuming that most of you are proud to be an American, yet you are not willing to pass along the basic right of innocent until proven guilty because of his past.  He may well be (and probably is) guilty on some level, but how the hell do you know?  Give me some evidence other than a TRUE thug&#039;s word.  Please inform me if I&#039;m missing something.  I&#039;m sorry, but a hunch just isn&#039;t good enough for me, especially if it means getting rid of a really good player.  So many of us criticize Thomas for making ridiculous statement without any real knowledge of the situation, yet when it comes to Talib, those same people are doing the exact same thing.  Granted, you are free to have an opinion, but it is really unfair to presume guilt and throw around insults to this guy like you know him or you were there.  Would you feel the same if it turns out he never even touched a gun?  It&#039;s fine if you don&#039;t like him and you want him off the team just because, but it is over the top to call him a thug, or even worse an ape (as was said in a previous post).  Pretty shameful in my opinion.  I just don&#039;t see why everyone is so quick to judge (as if they are an angel themselves), and they are so unwilling to let the entire process play out.  I think if you really took a step back and looked at the situation, you may feel differently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey genius (Thomas), in case you didn&#8217;t know they can&#8217;t cut him right now.  There&#8217;s this thing called a lockout in case you missed it.  </p>
<p>I really surprised that so many people are so quick to convict this guy, when I have seen very little evidence that proves him guilty, other than the word of Billings.  I&#8217;m assuming that most of you are proud to be an American, yet you are not willing to pass along the basic right of innocent until proven guilty because of his past.  He may well be (and probably is) guilty on some level, but how the hell do you know?  Give me some evidence other than a TRUE thug&#8217;s word.  Please inform me if I&#8217;m missing something.  I&#8217;m sorry, but a hunch just isn&#8217;t good enough for me, especially if it means getting rid of a really good player.  So many of us criticize Thomas for making ridiculous statement without any real knowledge of the situation, yet when it comes to Talib, those same people are doing the exact same thing.  Granted, you are free to have an opinion, but it is really unfair to presume guilt and throw around insults to this guy like you know him or you were there.  Would you feel the same if it turns out he never even touched a gun?  It&#8217;s fine if you don&#8217;t like him and you want him off the team just because, but it is over the top to call him a thug, or even worse an ape (as was said in a previous post).  Pretty shameful in my opinion.  I just don&#8217;t see why everyone is so quick to judge (as if they are an angel themselves), and they are so unwilling to let the entire process play out.  I think if you really took a step back and looked at the situation, you may feel differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 02:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tuggz said it best... Double standards in the workplace are prevalent in every company and every business.  For example, if you&#039;re in sales and you&#039;re a top producer, you can get away with strolling in late, leaving early and generally being a jerk.  Why is Carucci even bothering to write about something that shouldn&#039;t surprise anybody.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuggz said it best&#8230; Double standards in the workplace are prevalent in every company and every business.  For example, if you&#8217;re in sales and you&#8217;re a top producer, you can get away with strolling in late, leaving early and generally being a jerk.  Why is Carucci even bothering to write about something that shouldn&#8217;t surprise anybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas 2.2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas 2.2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The bucs have become one of the biggest double standard orgs: firing jerramy stevens and keeping thc jax bc thc jax is more valuable is example 1. Also, rah rah and thc jax are boyeeez - which is the key factor at one buc now

This talib situation is just another example. Cut the punk now and immediately improve the locker room.  Even if he is not guilty of discharging a firearm, he is guilty of repeated misconduct that makes this idiot unreliable.  It would show some resolve to cut a talented player who is straight trouble and destined to do something horrible soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bucs have become one of the biggest double standard orgs: firing jerramy stevens and keeping thc jax bc thc jax is more valuable is example 1. Also, rah rah and thc jax are boyeeez &#8211; which is the key factor at one buc now</p>
<p>This talib situation is just another example. Cut the punk now and immediately improve the locker room.  Even if he is not guilty of discharging a firearm, he is guilty of repeated misconduct that makes this idiot unreliable.  It would show some resolve to cut a talented player who is straight trouble and destined to do something horrible soon.</p>
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		<title>By: BigMacAttack</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigMacAttack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bucs should hire Keith McCants to mentor Talib. I&#039;m sure he could arrested at least 4 more times during the lockout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bucs should hire Keith McCants to mentor Talib. I&#8217;m sure he could arrested at least 4 more times during the lockout.</p>
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		<title>By: TrueBlue</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrueBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s being called a double standard is simply a cost/benefit standard.  A mediocre player is not going to get a lot of leeway.  Why should he.  He&#039;s easily replaced by another mediocre player of which there are plenty.  But a player who makes your team better, and is harder to replace, will get more slack.  

What hurts the team more?  Loosing a player that makes your team better or keeping that same player when he embarrasses the team and gets suspended?  You go with the one that causes the least pain.  The trick of course is to see the picture clearly.

I think the decision on Talib is still out.  But the smart money is to draft another cornerback just in case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s being called a double standard is simply a cost/benefit standard.  A mediocre player is not going to get a lot of leeway.  Why should he.  He&#8217;s easily replaced by another mediocre player of which there are plenty.  But a player who makes your team better, and is harder to replace, will get more slack.  </p>
<p>What hurts the team more?  Loosing a player that makes your team better or keeping that same player when he embarrasses the team and gets suspended?  You go with the one that causes the least pain.  The trick of course is to see the picture clearly.</p>
<p>I think the decision on Talib is still out.  But the smart money is to draft another cornerback just in case.</p>
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		<title>By: Weneeddefense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weneeddefense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest problem with all this is that Aqib ruined the Bucs drafting intentions.  Now CB is a need because of this idiot... Yeah it&#039;s always going to be a need on some level, but it sure wasn&#039;t as needed as it is now with Talib going Jessie James on a thug.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem with all this is that Aqib ruined the Bucs drafting intentions.  Now CB is a need because of this idiot&#8230; Yeah it&#8217;s always going to be a need on some level, but it sure wasn&#8217;t as needed as it is now with Talib going Jessie James on a thug.</p>
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