Comments on: Shaun King Won’t Watch Gruden’s QB Camp

By: OAR

OAR — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:36:21 +0000

Joe,
Dennis Green couldn’t get anything out Shaun King, either! Remember King did sign with Arizona? Played in 3 games and had 1 TD and 4 INTs!

By: OAR

OAR — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:50:11 +0000

Mr Football,
Ok I’ll take that challenge!
Besides Cunningham not being able to adjust to westcoast offense, nagging INJURIES were a problem with him, too! He didn’t even play in 1996 for Vikings, even though he was on their team. Hmmm???? (1995 being his last year in Philly). Then in 1997 he only played in only 6 games, starting 3. Now in 1998, 2 years after Gruden ran him off (so you say?), he did finally get to play in 15 games and did very well. In 1999 guess what his injuries plagged him again and he only played in 6 games!
I guess injuries are Gruden’s fault too, huh?
BTW With a moniker like that, you need to know more!

By: OAR

OAR — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:12:44 +0000

bucyea
Again, blah, blah, blah! Heard it ALL before. Old news and opinions. Could really care less. My post was about King and watching Gruden’s show! I don’t care who he was going to watch/listen to or what he does! My post was not about Gruden and his time with the Bucs!?

By: bucyea

bucyea — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 05:00:18 +0000

OAR, respectfully, Gruden is an egomaniac. IMO, he has no intention of building a “winner’ just winning for himself, via FA, and taking over teams on that already have alot of talent. where do you think is next coachin’ gig will be?….Dallas or Cleveland. Dont get me wrong, Gruden won a SB for this team, BUT he did not build it, and IMO does not have the patience to go thru the pains of building a team. EGOMANIAC!. iT’S about Gru not about the long term success of the team, IMO. As for King, Gradk, Simms, Johnson, Gruden had no time to go thru the growing pains of developing a QB, and the draft is a whole nother story.
Dom/Morris have gotten better 7th rounders and FA’s than Gru/allen had in their entire drafts.

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 01:27:01 +0000

If Gruden is such a Guru to you people answer me one question. How come he screwed up Randall Cunningham trying to impose his offense on Randall. Then ended having Randall shipped to Minnesota were he killed? HMMM something to think about.

Wow. Denny Green actually ran circles around Chucky then as a quarterback guru.

By: Mr. Football

Mr. Football — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:30:36 +0000

If Gruden is such a Guru to you people answer me one question. How come he screwed up Randall Cunningham trying to impose his offense on Randall. Then ended having Randall shipped to Minnesota were he killed? HMMM something to think about.

By: OAR

OAR — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:27:39 +0000

Bucyea
Blah, blah, blah! Yeah, I know all of the reasonings, bad drafts with Allen, Kiffin leaving, even “he’s a scumbag”, etc. All old news! He’s gone and I’M STILL A FAN OF MY BUCS!
As for “King was one of the most prolific passers in college history” One key word there, COLLEGE!
BTW You’re not saying, Gruden killed King’s career are you??? Brad Johnson threw, in one year, as many TD’s as Shaun “the prolific COLLEGE passer” King had his whole career! Give me a break!
As for the other QB’s we had under Gruden, they seemed to not have been developed by ANYONE! Maybe those QB’s couldn’t be developed? Nobody thinks that? Just Gruden couldn’t develop them, must be his fault! Pfft!

By: bucyea

bucyea — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:46:27 +0000

and to OAR…King was one of the most prolific passers in college history. One his first playoff game as a rookie, then enter Gruden.
How would the Farve deal have worked out? We have the best young QB in the league under 23…we have one hell of a bright future, but most Bucs fans don’t have the intelligence to understand this. In fact many Buc fans weren’t Buc fans, they were Gruden fans. Worst sports fans in the country…please understand, not all of them, but with the HORRIFIC sports media(rags)and unfortunately we have a bunch of “pied piper” followers, that cant seem to form their own opinions based on facts.

By: bucyea

bucyea — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:38:50 +0000

Snook nailed it!!! Gruden, cannot develop a young Qb, he doesn’t have the patience, and he wants to win NOW instead of building a long-term winner. Gruden/Allen drafts were HORRIFIC!!! Like the had no interest in developing young players, and did very little research. Morris/dominik will turn this team into a long-term winner, something Gruden never has and never will. Gru/Allen spent a fortune on BAD FA signings with the only intention of winning one year and looking for the next “Dungy” built team to take to the SB, then its all downhill.

By: below me

below me — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:11:31 +0000

4 words…Shaun King is fat. best argument ever! But seriously, he really is fat.

By: OAR

OAR — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:04:03 +0000

Like I give a rat’s a$$, what Shaun King is going to watch/listen to or not!
What a bunch of whinners! Or maybe it’s cause Gruden is taller than you? Or maybe, Gruden yelled at you too much? Maybe both, not sure?
What’s really sad is, you’ve got a ring and Dan Marino doesn’t!

By: espo

espo — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 07:12:29 +0000

Dave did you say that Rich Gannon was the only Gruden QB to play at a high level? Brad Johnson helped win us a superbowl!!!

I don’t think its fair to include Chris Simms in that mix. He was getting there. He left his spleen on the field for US. That makes him ok in my book.