Comments on: THE PESSIMIST: Dominik Must Be A Fat Hater

By: Capt.Tim

Capt.Tim — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:07:23 +0000

Ha! Silence CLOWN! They signed him!

By: Patrick

Patrick — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:35:41 +0000

All the crap about Antonio Bryant complaining publicly was absolute BS. He really didn’t complain at all. I think he made maybe one or two comments that weren’t even that big of a deal, but Raheem took it so seriously. In an interview, AB discussed how Kellen Winslow had become the new go to target in the offense and how he was fine with it and understood what the team did. He was basically accepting his role as far as I’m concerned. Maybe he wasn’t too happy with it, but I never recall him blasting Raheem, Dominik, the organization, or anyone. And even if he spoke out once, big deal!! Haven’t you noticed that good receivers these days speak out all the time?? When a receiver on another NFL team speaks out once about something, everyone just shrugs it off, including the team. It’s basically a regular thing in the NFL. But when AB made a nothing comment or two…..oh boy, he right away got his pink slip. Do you think if Ochocinco complained publicly about something today, that the Bengals would be rushing to trade or release him. No, because first of all it’s not such a serious thing and second of all, he’s their big play threat on offense and they want to..uh…….win! Now if the guy is becoming detrimental to the team everyday 24/7, then yeah, go ahead and part ways then.

By: tampa2

tampa2 — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:58:37 +0000

@BamBamBuc
They made Penn sign a one year tender for the same money last year too. So, after finding him good enough to start 44 games, why would they not want to pay him at least “average” pay for his position?
The average pay for the blind side tackle “in 2008″ was 4 million. So shouldn’t a 44 game starter at that position be offered at least 4 million?
Everyone seems to think Penn is average, so pay him the average pay!

And after Dominik has admitted lying about Penn, some people on this forum shouldn’t take whatever Dominik says as absolute truth. I guess now we can figure out who started all those “bryant only complained to the media” rumors last year when they let Antonio Bryant go and signed Clayton to Big bucks. Has anyone ever read where Antonio Bryant disrupted the team with complaints? last year it was Jags, Bates, then Bryant, and now Penn that had the lies/rumors told about them. And people still listen to Dominik. Amazing.

By: Louie

Louie — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:36:47 +0000

Bottom line: the Bucs don’t want to pay Penn, so this will be his last year as a Buc. They’ll definitely be drafting a LT in the first round next year.

@BamBam, you’re right that the CBA has kept Penn from playing for a different team this year and that’s probably what Penn is eluding to in his statements. However, the reason for not signing RFA’s is not the CBA; it’s the excuse being used (IMHO).

Penn is probably going to sit out training camp and sign just before the season. Why should he put his body through all the wear and tear during training camp if you’re not part of the team’s long-term plans?

By: RahDomDaBest

RahDomDaBest — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:11:23 +0000

Penn will eventually take the 3+ million and then press on to another team next season. Dummynick already calle him fat, then publicly apologized. LMAO!

By: BamBamBuc

BamBamBuc — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:35:54 +0000

@ Louie

Call it an excuse if you will, but the FACT is that Penn would be an UNrestricted free agent if the CBA were NOT in it’s final year. Simply put, he would have either gotten his long term deal with the Bucs or with another team by now if he were unrestricted, but the CBA changed that. That’s the FACT. The “Final Year” clause made more players RESTRICTED free agents this year than any year in the past.

Does that mean they CAN’T give him a new contract? Absolutely not. It’s still within the team’s prerogative to offer long term deals. But without a doubt, the CBA Final Year is the absolute reason Penn is in THIS situation. Unrestricted free agents are not offered “one year tenders” in the first place.

The team is not giving excuses, they are saying they don’t have to offer more, and aren’t willing to pay more until he shows he can come to camp in shape and stay that way for a full season. They aren’t saying they aren’t offering more because of the CBA, the fans are saying that. The fans are saying he’s not getting a long term deal because the owners are cheap. The fans are saying a lot of things, but the team doesn’t have to offer more to a restricted player, and the player knows he’d be unrestricted if it weren’t for the CBA.

By: BigMacAttack

BigMacAttack — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:22:04 +0000

Patrick, that’s kinda what I was thinking too. I think it’s on the Stroud/Holder video of Donald Penn, shows Penn getting beat by McCray. He’s 6-6 and a pretty opposing guy. I think McCray would love to play the Saints and prove to them what a mistake they made letting him go. I think Wilkersen wants to do the same to the Bucs. The difference is Wilkersen was hurt and is still recovery from the knee injury.

Can someone tell me what’s so bad about drinking the koolaid? What are the options? Find another team to follow? Seriously, that makes no sense. If Penn doesn’t come back someone will take his place. Are they just suppose to stop playing footaball? Really, I don’t give a $hit about Donald Penn and he has really gone about this the wrong way, even if he is mostly right, about 70% in my estimation.

By: Louie

Louie — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 03:22:55 +0000

The CBA is the “excuse” being used. It’s not necessarily the “reason” for Penn’s situation.

If Penn was drinking the Kool-Aid, then why didn’t he just concede and sign his contract?

By: JimBuc

JimBuc — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:52:59 +0000

Tampa2 — I am going to stick with Penn. He is the only one that has spoken on the subject that is actually in the room, so to speak. Now why don’t you go back to trying to find the link between the Glazers and Madoff

By: tampa2

tampa2 — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:44:24 +0000

@Jimbuc
There is no doubt in my mind that you were one of the few hundred. How was that kool-aid?

By: JimBuc

JimBuc — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:04:19 +0000

Count Donald Penn as one of many “brainwashed” by the Glazers. This is what Penn said at Fan Fest:

“Everything that’s going on right now is out of my control. If we had a new [CBA] I would never have been in this position.”

By: Patrick

Patrick — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:42:48 +0000

Just checked his stats and it looks like he’s been decent throughout his career

2004 JAX- 3.5 sacks
2005 JAX- 5.5 sacks
2006 JAX- 10 sacks
2007 JAX- 3 sacks
2008 NO- 6 sacks
2009 NO- 1.5 sacks

Through 6 seasons, he has 29.5 sacks. He’s only 28 years old.

Bobby McCray could actually be successful here I think. When Jimmy Wilkerson came here, was anybody pumped about signing him?? He was very average, nothing great. But when he came he did a solid job. Part of that reason is that he was on a weak line with Sims and Hovan, so he carried a heavy load. With McCray it would be the same kind of situation. McCoy and Price will likely experience growing pains, so the line probably still won’t be very strong this year. That could help McCray just like it did with Wilkerson. McCray has put up better numbers in his career than Wilkerson did before he came to Tampa.