I’m with you my friend, you’ve stood alone against an onslaught of bullshit from all comers, yet you’ve maintained your support for the Bucs throughout, and I salute you for that. I still think you have democratic tendencies, but I respect you much more than those assholes in DC!!

To tell you the truth, I don’t really have anything against Eric, the two of us have both pressed Joe for more pics of our cheerleaders (as well as Joe’s secret stash!) to no avail. While Eric can be a little negative from time to time, he’s a good dude who wants exactly what the rest of want, a team we can all be proud of and support 100%!!

I can’t give you a specific instance where Hovan came through as a leader, although I got to meet him a couple of times at a friend of mine’s restaurant, but at least Chris was man enough to try and take on a leadership role last year when there were really no other veterans to take on that role. Hovan played his ass of for us while he was here, unfortunately, his best wasn’t nearly good enough. Personally, I love the guy, and wish the Bucs could have kept him here vice Ryan Sims, but money talks, and even I can understand why the Glazers would want to walk away from paying a part time backup $4 million. Although, I still say if I had $4 million sitting around, I’d much rather pay Rachal Watson to perform for me!

Now getting rid of 55 when he was willing to play the mentor role – catastrophically stupid.

BTW – Is it just me or does anyone else think that Hovan, while average on the field, wasn’t a team leader?

does anyone have any stories of anything Hovan did off the field that would be “leadership” skills?

anyone……(crickets…..crickets)

If I hear any inside scoop about the Bucs cheerleaders allowing sucking at the teat, you’ll be the first I’ll let know!

Your comparison of football fans wanting to waste owners money to our politicians today is spot on!!

@ JimBuc:

Didn’t really suspect you of being a democrat, but here lately, the views between you, Eric, Thomas and RM have been one extreme to the other–kinda like the idiots running our country right now!!

I also think Morris made too many blunders to count last year, so did Dom, and I alos think the Glazers are restricting the money to the Bucs, I just believe it is temporary because that is what makes the most business sense. I also belive that Glazers overreacted in firing Gruden and we all saw that with 3-13.

Funny thing is you don’t get to hear most of my negative views because the prevailing view that I am responding to is negative (in some instance so negative its silly) or so ridiculously absolute (i.e the Bucs are hypocrites because they said character guys but took Williams) that there is not other response.

It all comes down to one underlying principle:

Do you want to see the Bucs win – NOW?

While 90% of fans would look at me and say, Duh!!! there is a price to pay and the current ownership isn’t willing to go down that road.

Jon Gruden was an expert at holding his team together with rubber bands and chewing gum. Look what happened when he was canned? Going from a 9-7 team that was 1 win away from the playoffs to a 3-13 season in which the management did everyhing wrong and was the laughing stock of the NFL.

I was one advocating for bringing in Coher to rebuild because I think that someone like Bill would be able to make the Bucs competitive quicker than Rah-Rah who is basically playing it by ear.

The other problem with the Bucs is this: The Glazers are businessmen who run their football team like a Fortune 500 business and to most fans who aren’t business owners this sucks. Football fans want to see their favorite players on the team. Forget the fact that it’s not a sound business decision.

The problem is this – football fans are just like our elected officials; when it’s not your money you wan to spend it and spend it. That’s how come Washington racked up TRILLIONS in debt. Football teams, run by fans or irresponsible owners, rack up too much debt as well.