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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=28734&#038;cpage=1#comment-45862</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 03:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@JimBuc

It would be hard to &quot;decline&quot; from 3-13!

The issue is, will they be any better. You seem to think that is a foregone conclusion. I say the proof will be on the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JimBuc</p>
<p>It would be hard to &#8220;decline&#8221; from 3-13!</p>
<p>The issue is, will they be any better. You seem to think that is a foregone conclusion. I say the proof will be on the field.</p>
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		<title>By: sunrisejeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunrisejeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are their numbers for the first set of practices Big Mac :

P Brent Bowden 1
QB Jevan Snead 4
QB Matt Grothe 6
WR Arrelious Benn 17
WR Mike Williams 19
CB Myron Lewis 23
S Cody Grimm 35
LB Rico McCoy 44
LB Dekoda Watson 56
DE James Ruffin 60
OG Sergio Render 66
TE Jeron Mastrud
WR Preston Parker 87
DT Brian Price 92
DT Gerald McCoy 93
DE Erik Lorig 97]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are their numbers for the first set of practices Big Mac :</p>
<p>P Brent Bowden 1<br />
QB Jevan Snead 4<br />
QB Matt Grothe 6<br />
WR Arrelious Benn 17<br />
WR Mike Williams 19<br />
CB Myron Lewis 23<br />
S Cody Grimm 35<br />
LB Rico McCoy 44<br />
LB Dekoda Watson 56<br />
DE James Ruffin 60<br />
OG Sergio Render 66<br />
TE Jeron Mastrud<br />
WR Preston Parker 87<br />
DT Brian Price 92<br />
DT Gerald McCoy 93<br />
DE Erik Lorig 97</p>
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		<title>By: BigMacAttack</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=28734&#038;cpage=1#comment-45753</link>
		<dc:creator>BigMacAttack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[McCoy is #93 thanks to Miller. Does anybody know what number Price is wearing??? He looks like a #99, body type to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCoy is #93 thanks to Miller. Does anybody know what number Price is wearing??? He looks like a #99, body type to me.</p>
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		<title>By: JimBuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric -- and obvious decline has occurred even though we have not played a game, right?  That&#039;s the point that I just made to Louie. If we cannot conlude that a team with the worst D-Line in the league is improved by drafting premier D-line guys #1 and #2, then how can we say the Bucs are worse off because they let Hovan go, or did not take Holmes?

Do you see the double standard?  Blind hating acceptable, blind praise, not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8212; and obvious decline has occurred even though we have not played a game, right?  That&#8217;s the point that I just made to Louie. If we cannot conlude that a team with the worst D-Line in the league is improved by drafting premier D-line guys #1 and #2, then how can we say the Bucs are worse off because they let Hovan go, or did not take Holmes?</p>
<p>Do you see the double standard?  Blind hating acceptable, blind praise, not?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=28734&#038;cpage=1#comment-45729</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jimbuc

yeah, yeah, I know - I know.

Obvious improvement has already occurred prior to a game being played, it makes perfect sense, I can&#039;t understand why everyone can&#039;t accept it.

Its a big mystery!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jimbuc</p>
<p>yeah, yeah, I know &#8211; I know.</p>
<p>Obvious improvement has already occurred prior to a game being played, it makes perfect sense, I can&#8217;t understand why everyone can&#8217;t accept it.</p>
<p>Its a big mystery!</p>
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		<title>By: JimBuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric -- that is the &quot;haters&quot; last line of defense.  &quot;It looks like it might be good, but we do not know for sure . . .  so it is BAD until proven different.&quot;

One can reasonably conclude that the Bucs have improved the team. In fact, many in the natioanl media have reached that conclusion, some in the local media too.  Some Bucs fans are a lttle slow to give in . . .   uh . .  I mean to acknowledge the obvious . . .  uh . .  how about, to be converted? (Yeah, that&#039;s better)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8212; that is the &#8220;haters&#8221; last line of defense.  &#8220;It looks like it might be good, but we do not know for sure . . .  so it is BAD until proven different.&#8221;</p>
<p>One can reasonably conclude that the Bucs have improved the team. In fact, many in the natioanl media have reached that conclusion, some in the local media too.  Some Bucs fans are a lttle slow to give in . . .   uh . .  I mean to acknowledge the obvious . . .  uh . .  how about, to be converted? (Yeah, that&#8217;s better)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;That’s good news, right?&quot;

Except for the dropping Clayton part, results are unknown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s good news, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Except for the dropping Clayton part, results are unknown.</p>
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		<title>By: JimBuc</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimBuc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe = &quot;win now&quot;

Joe, once when I disagreed with you, you said that you could not be blamed for my reading comprehension problems, right?  Might want to review my comments.  I said that Bryent wins the &quot;proven man to man&quot; argument and he probably even wins the &quot;2010&quot; argument. My only point was that you and others would not hyperventilate about as much as you do if you looked at (a) the total picture and (b) the long-term. 

Long term, this is what the Bucs have done:

Dropped Bryant
Soon to drop Clayton

In exchange they get Benn and Williams, with nowhere near the same investment risk as they had in Bryant and Clayton, and they probably get a 3rd round pick to boot.

That&#039;s good news, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe = &#8220;win now&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe, once when I disagreed with you, you said that you could not be blamed for my reading comprehension problems, right?  Might want to review my comments.  I said that Bryent wins the &#8220;proven man to man&#8221; argument and he probably even wins the &#8220;2010&#8243; argument. My only point was that you and others would not hyperventilate about as much as you do if you looked at (a) the total picture and (b) the long-term. </p>
<p>Long term, this is what the Bucs have done:</p>
<p>Dropped Bryant<br />
Soon to drop Clayton</p>
<p>In exchange they get Benn and Williams, with nowhere near the same investment risk as they had in Bryant and Clayton, and they probably get a 3rd round pick to boot.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s good news, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought &quot;upgrades&quot; occurred when guys took the field and played accordingly. Naturally, with rookies they can&#039;t be expected to be immediate upgrades, although some turn out that way and it could happen.

For example the Raiders probably &quot;thought&quot; they upgraded their QB position with Russel, or the bucs &quot;thought&quot; they upgraded with Mr. Adams.

Thus all that can be said is that the bucs &quot;think&quot; or &quot;hope&quot; or &quot;expect&quot; that they have upgraded. The reality of those predictions/expectations has yet to be established, and neither has the success of the &quot;rebuilding plan&quot;.

Not a shock that fans have high expectations, but it does suprise me that Mr. Dom seems to be adding fuel to that by proclaiming he expects both to be starters. Not what you usually hear from a GM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought &#8220;upgrades&#8221; occurred when guys took the field and played accordingly. Naturally, with rookies they can&#8217;t be expected to be immediate upgrades, although some turn out that way and it could happen.</p>
<p>For example the Raiders probably &#8220;thought&#8221; they upgraded their QB position with Russel, or the bucs &#8220;thought&#8221; they upgraded with Mr. Adams.</p>
<p>Thus all that can be said is that the bucs &#8220;think&#8221; or &#8220;hope&#8221; or &#8220;expect&#8221; that they have upgraded. The reality of those predictions/expectations has yet to be established, and neither has the success of the &#8220;rebuilding plan&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not a shock that fans have high expectations, but it does suprise me that Mr. Dom seems to be adding fuel to that by proclaiming he expects both to be starters. Not what you usually hear from a GM.</p>
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		<title>By: CharlieB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CharlieB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know how good he is.  Lets take the ludicrous step of saying that Freeman, this upcoming year, will be on par skill wise with McNabb and Favre during the years that DeSean and Percy were rookies.  Freeman still can&#039;t touch the veteran savvy and leadership experience that those two have.

I&#039;m sure Freeman will be much improved.  I honestly thought he played much better than his stat sheet showed last year.  I&#039;m confident in two-three years we might legitimately have one of the top passing attacks in the league.  But this year?  Nah.  Optimistically, this year we&#039;ll see Stroughter emerge as a strong slot receiver and Brown show some of his early career promise; we&#039;ll see Freeman completing a much higher % of his passes and cutting down redzone turnovers.  Maybe we&#039;ll see flashes of future brilliance from Benn/Williams.  That&#039;s what I hope to see.  I would put money on neither Benn/Williams making the pro bowl.  Would it be great to see?  I&#039;d love it.  I&#039;d buy a jersey.  But it&#039;s only a little more likely than me winning the powerball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how good he is.  Lets take the ludicrous step of saying that Freeman, this upcoming year, will be on par skill wise with McNabb and Favre during the years that DeSean and Percy were rookies.  Freeman still can&#8217;t touch the veteran savvy and leadership experience that those two have.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Freeman will be much improved.  I honestly thought he played much better than his stat sheet showed last year.  I&#8217;m confident in two-three years we might legitimately have one of the top passing attacks in the league.  But this year?  Nah.  Optimistically, this year we&#8217;ll see Stroughter emerge as a strong slot receiver and Brown show some of his early career promise; we&#8217;ll see Freeman completing a much higher % of his passes and cutting down redzone turnovers.  Maybe we&#8217;ll see flashes of future brilliance from Benn/Williams.  That&#8217;s what I hope to see.  I would put money on neither Benn/Williams making the pro bowl.  Would it be great to see?  I&#8217;d love it.  I&#8217;d buy a jersey.  But it&#8217;s only a little more likely than me winning the powerball.</p>
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		<title>By: BucFan South Tampa</title>
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		<dc:creator>BucFan South Tampa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No idea who CharlieB is..sorry. Our two new receivers have the potential to be great. Agree, Freeman needs to have improved, running game needs to explode, O-line needs to open holes and give Freeman time, and I think our two new guys wont drop any balls and will run tight routes. The TEAM needs to play good football. Its not just up to the rookies. But ref Percy Harvin and DeSean Jackson, how many Super Bowl rings do they have?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No idea who CharlieB is..sorry. Our two new receivers have the potential to be great. Agree, Freeman needs to have improved, running game needs to explode, O-line needs to open holes and give Freeman time, and I think our two new guys wont drop any balls and will run tight routes. The TEAM needs to play good football. Its not just up to the rookies. But ref Percy Harvin and DeSean Jackson, how many Super Bowl rings do they have?</p>
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		<title>By: d-money</title>
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		<dc:creator>d-money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An upgrade over AB? Probably not. 

An upgrade to the recieving corp as a whole? Possibly. 

Now there will, in theory, be more targets to throw to. A few of the INT&#039;s that Freeman threw last season were due to him forcing the ball to Bryant.

You go from having one really good reciever to having (hopefully) three capable recievers.
You can still have upgraded the recievers as a whole even if Bryant is better than each of them individualy.

Now Benn, Williams and Straughter have to hold up their end of the deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An upgrade over AB? Probably not. </p>
<p>An upgrade to the recieving corp as a whole? Possibly. </p>
<p>Now there will, in theory, be more targets to throw to. A few of the INT&#8217;s that Freeman threw last season were due to him forcing the ball to Bryant.</p>
<p>You go from having one really good reciever to having (hopefully) three capable recievers.<br />
You can still have upgraded the recievers as a whole even if Bryant is better than each of them individualy.</p>
<p>Now Benn, Williams and Straughter have to hold up their end of the deal.</p>
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