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	<title>Comments on: Rays&#8217; New Stadium? What About The Bucs&#8217;?</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=24927&#038;cpage=1#comment-30781</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, maybe JT was repeating what the NFL said about Joe Robbie, I caught what he was saying just as I got in my car leaving work last week.  His comments just kind of caught me by surprise because RayJ isn&#039;t that old yet.  I will say I&#039;d take RayJ over Joe Robbie, only because the only game I went to there was the Fins-Jets game in SEP, and it was absolutely BRUTAL heat-wise!  At least RayJ has some air moving through it most of the time (unless you&#039;re in the lower bowl), but Joe Robbie has absolutely NO AIR moving through it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, maybe JT was repeating what the NFL said about Joe Robbie, I caught what he was saying just as I got in my car leaving work last week.  His comments just kind of caught me by surprise because RayJ isn&#8217;t that old yet.  I will say I&#8217;d take RayJ over Joe Robbie, only because the only game I went to there was the Fins-Jets game in SEP, and it was absolutely BRUTAL heat-wise!  At least RayJ has some air moving through it most of the time (unless you&#8217;re in the lower bowl), but Joe Robbie has absolutely NO AIR moving through it!</p>
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		<title>By: zech</title>
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		<dc:creator>zech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe I so much want the rays to suceed in st.pete ! I love baseball and it seems to me that the city of st.pete and county of pinellas really don&#039;t care about baseball and that they rather hold the rays hostage because they really don&#039;t want baseball only the money! What I&#039;m sayn is that there holdin them hostage because there a cash cow and they really don&#039;t care if the suceed or not!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe I so much want the rays to suceed in st.pete ! I love baseball and it seems to me that the city of st.pete and county of pinellas really don&#8217;t care about baseball and that they rather hold the rays hostage because they really don&#8217;t want baseball only the money! What I&#8217;m sayn is that there holdin them hostage because there a cash cow and they really don&#8217;t care if the suceed or not!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[zech:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The only way I see the rays gettn a new stadium if the trop fell apart!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Keep your fingers crossed zech.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zech:</p>
<blockquote><p>The only way I see the rays gettn a new stadium if the trop fell apart!</p></blockquote>
<p>Keep your fingers crossed zech.</p>
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		<title>By: zech</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=24927&#038;cpage=1#comment-30680</link>
		<dc:creator>zech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea that&#039;s y I say the rays need a new stadium of their own and that&#039;s not own by st.pete or pinellas ! A stadium owned by the rays and ownly the rays! How much u all wanna bet that the rays had to press and plea with the city and county to make any additions to the trop! The only way I see the rays gettn a new stadium if the trop fell apart!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea that&#8217;s y I say the rays need a new stadium of their own and that&#8217;s not own by st.pete or pinellas ! A stadium owned by the rays and ownly the rays! How much u all wanna bet that the rays had to press and plea with the city and county to make any additions to the trop! The only way I see the rays gettn a new stadium if the trop fell apart!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg:

   Oddly enough, the NFL has deemed Joe Robbie Stadium not fit for another Super Bowl unless it is upgraded; not J.T. the Brick. But realistically, if the NFL thinks Joe Robbie is subpar, how many years before the same label is slapped on the CITS?

   Personally, Joe likes Joe Robbie Stadium better than the CITS. Hell, Joe even likes Doak Campbell Stadium better than the CITS (there&#039;s a bar right across the street in fact!).

   For Joe, the CITS is very, eh. Joe believes the upper deck seating to be very poor. Again, Joe doesn&#039;t think the CITS is a bad stadium, please do not misunderstand. It could have been, and still could be, so much more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>   Oddly enough, the NFL has deemed Joe Robbie Stadium not fit for another Super Bowl unless it is upgraded; not J.T. the Brick. But realistically, if the NFL thinks Joe Robbie is subpar, how many years before the same label is slapped on the CITS?</p>
<p>   Personally, Joe likes Joe Robbie Stadium better than the CITS. Hell, Joe even likes Doak Campbell Stadium better than the CITS (there&#8217;s a bar right across the street in fact!).</p>
<p>   For Joe, the CITS is very, eh. Joe believes the upper deck seating to be very poor. Again, Joe doesn&#8217;t think the CITS is a bad stadium, please do not misunderstand. It could have been, and still could be, so much more.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=24927&#038;cpage=1#comment-30673</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zech, if you think we can compete with the Yankees and Red Sox in regard to money, you are out of your mind.  Do you have any idea how large the fanbase is for the New York and Boston respectively?  Hell, half the fans in Tampa are Yankees and Sox fans.

You doubt the Rays are making money?  They would have moved or been sold otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zech, if you think we can compete with the Yankees and Red Sox in regard to money, you are out of your mind.  Do you have any idea how large the fanbase is for the New York and Boston respectively?  Hell, half the fans in Tampa are Yankees and Sox fans.</p>
<p>You doubt the Rays are making money?  They would have moved or been sold otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe, should have added that JT said that San Diego is already out of future Super Bowls (but the Charger owners have been screaming for a new stadium out there ever since they lost all the revenue they made off the Padres for years).  JT said the same thing about Miami as he did Tampa, that after 5 yrs, neither stadiums would be nice enough to host a Super Bowl (I personally think JT is full of it about Tampa, it&#039;s a pretty nice stadium for 13 yrs old, and Miami&#039;s isn&#039;t bad either!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, should have added that JT said that San Diego is already out of future Super Bowls (but the Charger owners have been screaming for a new stadium out there ever since they lost all the revenue they made off the Padres for years).  JT said the same thing about Miami as he did Tampa, that after 5 yrs, neither stadiums would be nice enough to host a Super Bowl (I personally think JT is full of it about Tampa, it&#8217;s a pretty nice stadium for 13 yrs old, and Miami&#8217;s isn&#8217;t bad either!)</p>
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		<title>By: zech</title>
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		<dc:creator>zech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Justin do u think the rays r makeing money handover fist at the trop I doubt it cuz the gotta pay taxes to st.pete and they gotta pay the rent on the stadium to st.pete. I wanna see the rays get a retractable roof 60,000 seat stadium so they can make money so we can compete every year with the yankees and redsox fo freeagents but of course I would want them to wait 10 or 12 years before they decide to build a stadium! As for the buc if the glazers want a new stadium they should pay for it all them self without our help!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin do u think the rays r makeing money handover fist at the trop I doubt it cuz the gotta pay taxes to st.pete and they gotta pay the rent on the stadium to st.pete. I wanna see the rays get a retractable roof 60,000 seat stadium so they can make money so we can compete every year with the yankees and redsox fo freeagents but of course I would want them to wait 10 or 12 years before they decide to build a stadium! As for the buc if the glazers want a new stadium they should pay for it all them self without our help!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s get something straight--our teams don&#039;t need new stadiums.  They WANT new stadiums.

Don&#039;t buy into the garbage about the Rays needing a new stadium.  That&#039;s MLB propaganda.  I have been to ballparks around the country and I love the Trop.  People (Bud Selig) who do not live in Tampa are trying to tell us that we need an outdoor stadium--have these people ever been to Florida during the summer?  The Trop is only insufficient because you buy into their propaganda.

Moreover, have we learned NOTHING from the financial crisis?  We cannot continue to spend beyond our means.  That&#039;s why Iorio demanded a certain private fundraising level before she could back a new Tampa museum.  The county doesn&#039;t have the money for new stadiums.

We need to decide what is most important as tax paying citizens.  Do we continue to spend beyond our means, or do we take a stand and choose financial independence and stability over maybe having sports?

I&#039;d hate--absolutely, hate--to lose the Rays or the Bucs.  But I would hate myself even more to bankrupt the county over private enterprise that is flush with enough cash to build a stadium if they so choose.

If a sports team threatens to leave, that may not be legal extortion, but it&#039;s extortion of history, community, and entertainment.  They should be free to up and move if they want as long as their contract allows.  But would you let any other group or person extort you in the same way?  We may lose a team, but that&#039;s better than losing our freedom.  Way better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get something straight&#8211;our teams don&#8217;t need new stadiums.  They WANT new stadiums.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t buy into the garbage about the Rays needing a new stadium.  That&#8217;s MLB propaganda.  I have been to ballparks around the country and I love the Trop.  People (Bud Selig) who do not live in Tampa are trying to tell us that we need an outdoor stadium&#8211;have these people ever been to Florida during the summer?  The Trop is only insufficient because you buy into their propaganda.</p>
<p>Moreover, have we learned NOTHING from the financial crisis?  We cannot continue to spend beyond our means.  That&#8217;s why Iorio demanded a certain private fundraising level before she could back a new Tampa museum.  The county doesn&#8217;t have the money for new stadiums.</p>
<p>We need to decide what is most important as tax paying citizens.  Do we continue to spend beyond our means, or do we take a stand and choose financial independence and stability over maybe having sports?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate&#8211;absolutely, hate&#8211;to lose the Rays or the Bucs.  But I would hate myself even more to bankrupt the county over private enterprise that is flush with enough cash to build a stadium if they so choose.</p>
<p>If a sports team threatens to leave, that may not be legal extortion, but it&#8217;s extortion of history, community, and entertainment.  They should be free to up and move if they want as long as their contract allows.  But would you let any other group or person extort you in the same way?  We may lose a team, but that&#8217;s better than losing our freedom.  Way better.</p>
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		<title>By: zech</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=24927&#038;cpage=1#comment-30595</link>
		<dc:creator>zech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wanna see they glazers build the biggest and best stadium in football with there own money and I would want the same from the rays! I wanna see 50,000 seat stadium for the rays and paid for by the rays in st.pete and 110,000 seat stadium in tampa bay and paid for by the glazers!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanna see they glazers build the biggest and best stadium in football with there own money and I would want the same from the rays! I wanna see 50,000 seat stadium for the rays and paid for by the rays in st.pete and 110,000 seat stadium in tampa bay and paid for by the glazers!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike J</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=24927&#038;cpage=1#comment-30554</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roads are deteriorating &amp; bridges are unsafe;levees cannot be relied on &amp; dams are leaking. But we replace 25 year old stadiums because owners can&#039;t sell enough clubseats &amp; add to their wealth.
What a country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roads are deteriorating &amp; bridges are unsafe;levees cannot be relied on &amp; dams are leaking. But we replace 25 year old stadiums because owners can&#8217;t sell enough clubseats &amp; add to their wealth.<br />
What a country.</p>
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		<title>By: zech</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=24927&#038;cpage=1#comment-30517</link>
		<dc:creator>zech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey if the glazers really care about the bucs then they should pay for a new stadium and how much they spend on the standium will show how much they value the bucs and the fan base!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey if the glazers really care about the bucs then they should pay for a new stadium and how much they spend on the standium will show how much they value the bucs and the fan base!</p>
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