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	<title>Comments on: THE PESSIMIST: Jim Bates Must Go!</title>
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		<title>By: bucsfanlostiniowa</title>
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		<dc:creator>bucsfanlostiniowa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha ha fire bates and the defense will be no.1 next year, thats what happened in Denver!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha fire bates and the defense will be no.1 next year, thats what happened in Denver!</p>
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		<title>By: Tye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MR. Bill Cowher...... (Paging) MR. Bill Cowher...... Your services are EXTREMELY and DESPERATELY needed in Tampa MR. Bill Cowher!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MR. Bill Cowher&#8230;&#8230; (Paging) MR. Bill Cowher&#8230;&#8230; Your services are EXTREMELY and DESPERATELY needed in Tampa MR. Bill Cowher!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sgt Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=18259&#038;cpage=1#comment-13392</link>
		<dc:creator>Sgt Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bring on Cowher!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring on Cowher!</p>
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		<title>By: MTM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The seems like a bad dream that won&#039;t end !! There are sorry teams that you can see progress even in losses. I don&#039;t see that with the Buc&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The seems like a bad dream that won&#8217;t end !! There are sorry teams that you can see progress even in losses. I don&#8217;t see that with the Buc&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Gino</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=18259&#038;cpage=1#comment-13377</link>
		<dc:creator>Gino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pessimist you and I are much alike. I thought when I first heard it hiring the former (like year and a half ago ) video coach as the head coach was a huge mistake. Blowing a 1st round pick on a logical 3rd rounder was a huge mistake. Settling on Kaw-Liga (you younger folks who think that candy-ass singer on Monday night football might is the real Hank Williams may want to google that one) instead of McCown--indeed just signing Kaw-Liga AFTER the big deal for McCown during the off-season--well what the hell size mistake can you call that?? Ineptitude is the man&#039;s hallmark. Something has to give right?

You know--at first I said &quot;fire Bates&quot; but I started thinking.

And the more I thought about it, the more it rang true.

Bottom line-you just can&#039;t polish a turd.

All those starters that were cut from this team-Brooks, June, Kevin Carter,-now completely gone from the NFL--no one was willing to sign them-yet these guys were STARTERS here last year. So while no one on the bench was good enough to start over these geezers-that&#039;s what we have forming our sieve-like defense in 2009.

I mean looks who&#039;s left? Geno Hayes? Yeah maybe a special teams guys somewhere in the NFL-a nickle/dime player--but a starter? Not on 31 other teams. STYLEZ White? Jimmy Wilkerson? Ryan Sims? These are all guys 30 years old or so ----they&#039;re not going to turn into Mean Joe Greene-just journeymen that would be the #6-7-8 deep guys on the defensive front for pretty much any other NFL team. And that dinosaur Hovan is abused weekly-should have gotten out maybe 2-3 years ago.

Barrett Ruud? Well he&#039;s ok but he&#039;s not great-lets be honest. Quincy Black may the most upside of any of these guys but still a bit green.

And the secondary? What can I add to that discussion that hasn&#039;t been said?

No--you can&#039;t polish a turd-and the Bucs-on both sides of the ball-are steaming Bull Mastiff sized pile of crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pessimist you and I are much alike. I thought when I first heard it hiring the former (like year and a half ago ) video coach as the head coach was a huge mistake. Blowing a 1st round pick on a logical 3rd rounder was a huge mistake. Settling on Kaw-Liga (you younger folks who think that candy-ass singer on Monday night football might is the real Hank Williams may want to google that one) instead of McCown&#8211;indeed just signing Kaw-Liga AFTER the big deal for McCown during the off-season&#8211;well what the hell size mistake can you call that?? Ineptitude is the man&#8217;s hallmark. Something has to give right?</p>
<p>You know&#8211;at first I said &#8220;fire Bates&#8221; but I started thinking.</p>
<p>And the more I thought about it, the more it rang true.</p>
<p>Bottom line-you just can&#8217;t polish a turd.</p>
<p>All those starters that were cut from this team-Brooks, June, Kevin Carter,-now completely gone from the NFL&#8211;no one was willing to sign them-yet these guys were STARTERS here last year. So while no one on the bench was good enough to start over these geezers-that&#8217;s what we have forming our sieve-like defense in 2009.</p>
<p>I mean looks who&#8217;s left? Geno Hayes? Yeah maybe a special teams guys somewhere in the NFL-a nickle/dime player&#8211;but a starter? Not on 31 other teams. STYLEZ White? Jimmy Wilkerson? Ryan Sims? These are all guys 30 years old or so &#8212;-they&#8217;re not going to turn into Mean Joe Greene-just journeymen that would be the #6-7-8 deep guys on the defensive front for pretty much any other NFL team. And that dinosaur Hovan is abused weekly-should have gotten out maybe 2-3 years ago.</p>
<p>Barrett Ruud? Well he&#8217;s ok but he&#8217;s not great-lets be honest. Quincy Black may the most upside of any of these guys but still a bit green.</p>
<p>And the secondary? What can I add to that discussion that hasn&#8217;t been said?</p>
<p>No&#8211;you can&#8217;t polish a turd-and the Bucs-on both sides of the ball-are steaming Bull Mastiff sized pile of crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=18259&#038;cpage=1#comment-13368</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phil:

   People who know a helluva lot more about football than Joe have been saying the same thing since Bates was hired.

   Joe also knows a smart coach molds the defense (or offense) to best flaunt the attributes and talents of his players. Instead, Bates wants to ram his system down everyone&#039;s throats like a round peg into a square hole.Then he bitches about how he doesn&#039;t have the players to run &lt;em&gt;his &lt;/em&gt;defense. 

   How about running the defense that puts your players in the best position to make plays?

   Just look at the results. Joe -- and THE PESSIMIST -- have seen enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:</p>
<p>   People who know a helluva lot more about football than Joe have been saying the same thing since Bates was hired.</p>
<p>   Joe also knows a smart coach molds the defense (or offense) to best flaunt the attributes and talents of his players. Instead, Bates wants to ram his system down everyone&#8217;s throats like a round peg into a square hole.Then he bitches about how he doesn&#8217;t have the players to run <em>his </em>defense. </p>
<p>   How about running the defense that puts your players in the best position to make plays?</p>
<p>   Just look at the results. Joe &#8212; and THE PESSIMIST &#8212; have seen enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil a '76 Buc</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=18259&#038;cpage=1#comment-13364</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil a '76 Buc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Solution: Replace bates and half the D Line with him! Don&#039;t stop at Adams, Hovan tries but just doesn&#039;t get it done, Simms is an out of shape retread, Styles is inconsistent. Wilkerson and Crowder have some talent and are worth keeping.
Miller has potential and we are yet to see the Moore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solution: Replace bates and half the D Line with him! Don&#8217;t stop at Adams, Hovan tries but just doesn&#8217;t get it done, Simms is an out of shape retread, Styles is inconsistent. Wilkerson and Crowder have some talent and are worth keeping.<br />
Miller has potential and we are yet to see the Moore.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=18259&#038;cpage=1#comment-13363</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why isn&#039;t anyone wanting answers from our head coach? We can&#039;t kick field goals for Christ sake!!!!!!! You have to make field goals to win in this league. As far as I&#039;m concerned this is two games we lost because of out inability to make kicks. Let&#039;s all blame Bates for all the tackles he missed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn&#8217;t anyone wanting answers from our head coach? We can&#8217;t kick field goals for Christ sake!!!!!!! You have to make field goals to win in this league. As far as I&#8217;m concerned this is two games we lost because of out inability to make kicks. Let&#8217;s all blame Bates for all the tackles he missed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=18259&#038;cpage=1#comment-13358</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also have to say it wasn&#039;t Bates being tossed around like a rag doll, it&#039;s the same players that were tossed around last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also have to say it wasn&#8217;t Bates being tossed around like a rag doll, it&#8217;s the same players that were tossed around last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Lucky,  come&#039;on man!  Talib?  He is the only guy who shows up every sunday.  Jim Bates and his base set has got to go!  I would love to see a blitz once in a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Lucky,  come&#8217;on man!  Talib?  He is the only guy who shows up every sunday.  Jim Bates and his base set has got to go!  I would love to see a blitz once in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=18259&#038;cpage=1#comment-13355</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all need to learn how to pronounce Ndamukong Suh (En-dom-ah-ken Sue)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all need to learn how to pronounce Ndamukong Suh (En-dom-ah-ken Sue)</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone have any thoughts of shopping talib around the league for a 2nd and 4th round pick? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Joe thinks Mr. Lucky needs to hold off on any more beers today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyone have any thoughts of shopping talib around the league for a 2nd and 4th round pick? </p></blockquote>
<p>Joe thinks Mr. Lucky needs to hold off on any more beers today.</p>
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