“He Is The Most Misleading Player”

February 25th, 2019

A Bruce Arians player speaks.

Fans can say whatever they want about Gerald McCoy. He’s got supporters, haters and everything in between. Just look at yesterday’s JoeBucsFan poll.

But what do NFL players say about McCoy? One served up a candid take last week on national radio.

Kwon Alexander was on the SiriusXM NFL Radio airwaves and mentioned how very hard Gerald McCoy works. That prompted co-host Alex Boone, the former NFL guard who played for Bruce Arians in Arizona two seasons ago, to give a personal story.

“We played you guys two years ago and I had to play Gerald. And I gotta say that he is the most misleading player. Because he is one of the nicest guys but he goes 200 miles an hour as soon as that ball is snapped,” Boone said.

Kwon acknowledged Boone’s take and said that’s McCoy every play.

“But I feel like it kind of takes you off guard,” Boone replied. “You know, in the middle of the play he’s sitting there talking to you. ‘Hey man, how are you doing?’ You’re like, ‘uh, uh, uh, yeah, I’m good.’ What is he doing? Why is he talking to me? You know what I’m [saying]; and then all of a sudden that ball is snapped and he is a million miles [an hour]. I mean that’s what makes this so fun. And that’s why I don’t see them letting him go either.”

A report surfaced Friday saying the Bucs will retain McCoy for 2019, when he’s scheduled to earn $13 million, a sum he’s unlikely get on the free market. Joe made phone calls and it appears the report is accurate — for now.

Remember, Jason Licht was lukewarm publicly on keeping McCoy when speaking after the season, so that leads Joe to believe Todd Bowles and Bruce Arians watched McCoy’s film and agreed with Boone and Kwon. And of course, Arians is going to get exactly what he wants this year.

115 Responses to ““He Is The Most Misleading Player””

  1. pelbuc Says:

    Just don’t understand paying him full price.

  2. Doctor_berto Says:

    Not worth anything close to 13 mil

  3. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    I don’t understand people not wanting him the price shouldn’t matter to anyone you don’t have to pay him on top of that hes one of Buccaneers ever drafted by this team! Leave the salary cap up to the experts they have a plan you don’t need to worry about it

  4. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    It’s quite simple to me…..none of his money is guaranteed going forward……You could ink a $20 mil guaranteed two-year deal and it would be a win-win.
    To leave his contract as is would simply create this same scenario again next year.

  5. Neal Says:

    This “report” you and other keep referencing was merely Rick Strouds opinion on why he THINKS GMC will stay. He had no new info. no new quotes. Nothing to back up the “report”. Why are we calling it anything other than his opinion? This is how fake news gets started. One guy thinks something will happen, and 10 people report it as fact.

  6. Kalind Says:

    I think he’s good. But at 30+ he’s a 4.5 mil a year player. Restructure add a year add guaranteed money and save some to build out the roster. If he doesn’t want it, please see door.

  7. BucsFIRE Says:

    Like we said, Neal, it was a REPORT.
    And it’s already been reported everywhere.
    Why are you playing semantics?
    Who the F cares?

  8. Not there yet Says:

    Oh that’s great so he’s getting credit for going a million miles a minute even though he doesn’t 13 million production lol I’ve heard it all. Kwon goes a million miles a minute but is always quickly called overrated. LVD does as well but the difference is more often than not lvd makes the play when it’s in front of him.

  9. tmaxcon Says:

    having this career losing soft lockerroom cancer on the roster for another season at any price will guarantee failure for Arians and his staff…. just ask the previous regimes that have been trying to build around this fraud for a decade.

  10. First Down Tampa Bay Says:

    Here’s to hoping he restructures his contract for the good of the team.

  11. doolnutts Says:

    The people calling for a restructure are funny… McCoy holds the cards here… He does not and would not need to take a restructuring bucs can ask and threaten him with being cut but multiple outlets and experts are reporting that 13 million is market value. Suh got a 14 million dollar 1 year offer last year… We won’t be paying him if we cut him but someone else will. All that cutting him will do is just open up another whole on another team that already has plenty of those.

    Tampabaybucfan — A move like this would be great. We have done things in the past, if I remember correctly we did this with Vincent Jakcson and created all sorts of cap room. I was wondering if we would do that for McCoy or some of the other players.

  12. Pryda30.... sec 147 Says:

    He might retire soon

  13. Neal Says:

    @BucsFire. The only person arguing semantic is you bro. I said that there was no new info but it was being reported as fact. You must not read well. It was a dudes opinion. Stop making it seem like more than it was.

  14. Loyaltotheend Says:

    McCoy is that kid who lives with his parents until he’s 35 and the parents are too scared to kick him out

    Dude has 2 lockers it’s take forever to release him

  15. BucsFIRE Says:

    Neal, I read VERY well.
    More than it was? All any of us said was that it was a report.
    That is fine. All good.

  16. Neal Says:

    @BucsFire “And it’s already been reported everywhere” No it hasn’t. All of those articles cite Ricks original report. So again. Read all the words chief, top to bottom, left to right. It’s really not that hard.

  17. Bucsdelight Says:

    4.5 Million? lol, he’d be making less than Beau Allen. Get out of here.

    McCoy is the 5th highest paid DT in the league for 2019. He is a top 5 DT, he is making what he should be making.

  18. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @Neal,

    I partially agree with you. However, on the same day Stroud reported it (and he did report it as fact, not his opinion), the Bucs sent out a tweet with a picture of Gerald. Possibly a coincidence, but the Bucs don’t tend to do stuff like that. Now I wouldn’t be surprised if they leaked it to see if they can get some picks for him, but I don’t think Stroud just made it up, nor was it his opinion. Someone from the Bucs clearly told him that.

  19. Neal Says:

    @bucsFire. For some reason you think my problem is with the word”report” which is strange. My problem is that it is being called fact with NO NEW INFO. NO QUOTE. Nothing to back it up. He merely stated his opinion on why mccoy should stay and you guys are twisting it to sound like The Bucs said Mccoy will stay which is not the case. Not one person with the Bucs has said GMC will stay, so why is everyone acting like that’s what was said?

  20. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    The worst thing a bad team can do is create more holes. We have plenty of holes on this team, and we severely lack depth. This whole cap trouble stuff is being overblown. This team is full of guys making mid-level money with low-level production. That is the problem, not guys like McCoy making fair market value. I’m glad that the Bucs are smart enough to realize this and keep McCoy (allegedly). Now how about we draft well and scout well for a change, then we’ll really be on to something.

  21. Buc believer Says:

    For the love of GOD please just make McCoy go AWAY!! I’m so tired of looking at his Pansy arse face!!!

  22. Lamarcus Says:

    GMC is a straight garbage player. The day we let him go is the day we finally have success. GMC has dragged this team down long enough. Enough already with the bs and cut him already

  23. DooshLaRue Says:

    Oh yes…… the lightning fast first step.
    Then what happens?

    He fully engages and plays patty cakes with the O-lineman as the play usually passes by him.
    Swat a pass down…… No way bro….ain’t got time for that he’s having too much fun just playing.

    If we could only get him some help he would be awesome….

    Right.

  24. BucsFIRE Says:

    Neal, they do NOT all cite Rick’s report. Trust me.
    Anyway, that was not even the point.

    Funny that in your last post you referred to it as “Rick’s original report”.
    “REPORT.”

    Do you not see the irony in that?….
    That was the whole point. It was silly.

    No need to insult my intelligence.
    I have nothing to worry about.
    I am sure you don’t either.

  25. Frank Pillow Says:

    It’s almost tempting to believe that Geraldini is the victim of some of the most atrociously inept defensive scheming and game-planning the league has seen over the past decade. Bates/Rah; Schiano/Sheridan; Lovie/Fraisier; Smitty…pretty gruesome collection there. As bad as they all were, I’m just not sure what kind of system #93 really fits into–especially if/when he begins to lose the one thing Boone highlights here…his quickness.

  26. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “For the love of GOD please just make McCoy go AWAY!! I’m so tired of looking at his Pansy arse face!!!”

    ———

    Why don’t you be a man, stop hiding behind your keyboard, and tell him to his face? Of course you won’t, because you’re an internet tough guy.

  27. BucsFIRE Says:

    Neal, it obviously was NOT just an opinion.
    Cmon! You honestly read that as an opinion without cause?
    It was a fricking REPORT. It was based on information that was gained.

  28. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @Frank Pillow,

    He was great in Schiano’s system. We just couldn’t cover anyone. Everyone else’s system was one where he wasn’t the focal part of the defense, yet he still made All Pro and Pro Bowls.

  29. stpetebucsfan Says:

    GMC and Suh will forever be compared because of their positions in the draft…Suh one spot ahead of GMC.

    If you look at their career production it’s almost identical with one exception. Suh was healthier than GMC because of GMC’s torn bicep his second year. So career wise Suh has a slim advantage…two more sacks…some more QB hits…but nothing dramatic.

    Given their relatively equal production I do not get the GMC hate except for one CLEAR difference. GMC is a class act and folks here prefer Sapp types or worse…Suh types who step on players when they are down. In terms of results not that much difference. Oh one other difference. Suh will be looking at his fourth team this year and McCoy is still on his first.

  30. BucsFIRE Says:

    Hawaiian Buc Says:
    “Why don’t you be a man, stop hiding behind your keyboard, and tell him to his face? Of course you won’t, because you’re an internet tough guy.”

    ——–

    POST OF THE DAY.
    Thank you, Hawaiian.
    Very WELL SAID.

  31. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    As players get older……guaranteed money starts to mean a lot more…..

    If I’m Licht and if I’m GMC, I’m trying to find that balance between contract dollars and guaranteed dollars…..

    I think the report is probably partially accurate…..GMC & the Bucs both want this……but what is left out is where it goes from there……at any point….Licht can sit down and say to GMC…..
    We want you to stay……we want you to work something out that is mutually beneficial.

  32. SB Says:

    We all know that tmax knows more than Alex Boone.

  33. BucsFIRE Says:

    ^ Lots of people walking around who think they are bad-ass by talking tough and saying crap like that….

    …. and you are right that it is those people who are hiding behind their keyboards with a bag of chips and onion dip, slobbering all over themselves.

  34. Clw JB Says:

    The dude has been a model citizen, showed up every day and gave his all. Not his fault the expectation of being the next “Sapp”

    I see him staying as the owners actually being good people and overpaying him for the loyal soldier he has been.

    He isnt the same as he was even 3 years ago, but still has that get off that few have -in an attack one gap system, he is the perfect fit

    We just might see a career year from good ole GMC

  35. Bucsfanman Says:

    There’s going to be a house-cleaning of UN-productive players. After that, there won’t be much left. Considering GMC played like 70% of the defensive snaps, that leaves a paltry, unproductive 30% by the rest of the DTs. Outside of Vea, it’s not a group that’s noteworthy.
    So, if you get rid of a player who plays 70% of the snaps and is by far the most productive DT on the team, what do you have left? You’ve got a huge hole to fill, that’s what. And, considering that this team will need to replace already UN-productive players, doesn’t it make sense to retain him?
    Take the money aspect out of it. Does it make sense to get rid of him?

  36. AlteredEgo Says:

    My 2 cents….restructure 6.5 million a year, 2 year deal guaranteed

  37. Duthsty Rhothdes Says:

    Wasnt kwon his dance partner when down by 21 last year

  38. AKickInTheBucNuts Says:

    Who has he made better playing with him?

    What Bucs defense has been feared with him playing?

    What’s the Bucs win / loss record with him on our team?

    Are there even 2 games when he took over and won for us in 10 years?

    Yes, he works hard.
    Hell, we ALL work hard.

    But I haven’t seen anything for the last 10 years that says: ELITE

    ELITE players get 13 mil a year, not just a guy who “works hard”

    Re-work the contract or turn him loose.

  39. Not there yet Says:

    If McCoy wanted to retire a buc he could easily be cut and resign for a better deal he doesn’t have to go elsewhere. Bucs have paid him well and he’s well liked not that he has 13 million production. He has to understand what they are trying to do and he’s been paid through all the losing

  40. Dre Says:

    Get rid of GMC … he’s so overrated and he’s garbage… he’s done squat … if he was drafted in the early 90s he wouldn’t have lasted a year

  41. Boogie Nightz Says:

    TMAAAAAXXX!!!!!! Where art thou?! lol I need your hate to entertain me lol!

  42. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “Wasnt kwon his dance partner when down by 21 last year”

    ——–

    Fake news. We were down 8 and had just made a stop and got the ball back to the offense. God forbid the two of them have fun on the field after making a stop. We have fans that complain about what the players say, what they do, and how much money they deserve. Unbelievable.

  43. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “Get rid of GMC … he’s so overrated and he’s garbage… he’s done squat … if he was drafted in the early 90s he wouldn’t have lasted a year”

    —————-

    Yeah, all he’s done is All Pros, Pro Bowls, Top 100, and been game planned against by every single coach. But you’re right, he sucks.

  44. The Fighting Schiano's Says:

    I think Tmax fell into a deep, dark depression.

    Poor fella.

  45. ATrain Says:

    Where is the article about players who call him out

    It’s not just Stupid Fans who call this guy out

    PLAYERS CALL HIM OUT ON HIS TEAM AND OFF

    If GMC is an ELITE DT then trade him and get a couple draft picks at 30 you might get one more year if that GMC is hurt every year for a couple games

    So TRADE HIM while he had value

    I don’t believe anyone will give more than a 6th round pick but I’m a stupid fa

    So let’s put him on the trading block and get the draft picks to build

  46. GhostofSchiano Says:

    To me this says something about GMC himself. I am sure GMC knows the salary cap situation, I am sure he has made a lot of lot of lot of money during his time here in Tampa. I would be a GMC fan again if he stepped up and offered to restructure to help out the team, fill one or more of the holes. If it was me I would do it in hopes of getting a ring or at least play in a playoff game….something GMC has NEVER done. I just wouldn’t feel like my career was complete if I did not at least compete in a playoff game or a championship game. Something at least.

  47. SB Says:

    We all know that t m a x knows more than Alex Boone!

  48. Trench War Says:

    I guess if you like 4 to 6 sacks with 15 solo tackles and one deflected pass for the season for 13 million bucks.

    He’s your man

  49. 813bucboi Says:

    i hope they restructure….

    #REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  50. JimmyJack Says:

    Hey I wanted McCoy gone because I wanted it to signify a new culture. Throw the Tampa 2 playbook into the fire and send get rid of the old leader.

    But I’ll trust this staff can change the the culture with Gerald. McCoy has not met my expectations before but I will but I will put the same expectations on him this year.

    He needs to make a bigger impact this year. The chances might be good cause my friend(who knows more about football then me) has always told me that McCoy would be better playing DE because he is not physical enough to play DT. My friends is usually right about stuff like that.

  51. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    “To me this says something about GMC himself. I am sure GMC knows the salary cap situation, I am sure he has made a lot of lot of lot of money during his time here in Tampa. I would be a GMC fan again if he stepped up and offered to restructure to help out the team, fill one or more of the holes. If it was me I would do it in hopes of getting a ring or at least play in a playoff game….something GMC has NEVER done. I just wouldn’t feel like my career was complete if I did not at least compete in a playoff game or a championship game. Something at least.’

    ———–

    Stupid on so many levels. So you would offer to take less money for you and your family, even though the team hasn’t even asked you to? I hope you aren’t in charge of finances with your family. I don’t give a damn if I’m making billions of dollars, I’m not taking a penny less unless I have to. What for? The organization? Lol, the organization is only keeping him because they recognize how good he is at his job. Once he’s not of value to them, they’ll get rid of him like he’s camp meat. I literally can’t wrap my head around how you could possibly feel that way.

  52. Bucsfanman Says:

    “Who has he made better playing with him?”…..one could argue that he made JPP better. Just sayin’!
    $13 million is a lot but lets put it into context: Franchising Donovan Smith will cost us $14 million. Smith is certainly not worth $14. Now, you tell me whether GMC is worth that $13 mil.

  53. BucsFanSince1976 Says:

    GMC’s best years are far behind him. Pass.

  54. Stanglassman Says:

    All these people who say he’s not worth 13m are the ones who cry out if a player holds out when he is under contract because he’s clearly over performed. How did the billionaires get so many working class spokesmen?

  55. GhostofSchiano Says:

    Hawaiian Buc Says:

    February 25th, 2019 at 1:24 pm

    “To me this says something about GMC himself. I am sure GMC knows the salary cap situation, I am sure he has made a lot of lot of lot of money during his time here in Tampa. I would be a GMC fan again if he stepped up and offered to restructure to help out the team, fill one or more of the holes. If it was me I would do it in hopes of getting a ring or at least play in a playoff game….something GMC has NEVER done. I just wouldn’t feel like my career was complete if I did not at least compete in a playoff game or a championship game. Something at least.’

    ———–

    Stupid on so many levels. So you would offer to take less money for you and your family, even though the team hasn’t even asked you to? I hope you aren’t in charge of finances with your family. I don’t give a damn if I’m making billions of dollars, I’m not taking a penny less unless I have to. What for? The organization? Lol, the organization is only keeping him because they recognize how good he is at his job. Once he’s not of value to them, they’ll get rid of him like he’s camp meat. I literally can’t wrap my head around how you could possibly feel that way.
    —————————————————————————————-

    So, Hawaian Buc, you have made all this money just like GMC, you are close to the end of your playing career and you have NEVER ONCE played in a playoff game, never even sniffed an NFC championship, let alone a SUPERBOWL. You could restructure your salary (Load it with incentives) to make money available to bring in a quality free agent that could most likely be the difference in playing meaningful football in December and beyond.

    And this to you is stupid? I guess you enjoy mediocrity (or being selfish), as for me I strive higher. YES, I would restructure my contract (Loaded with incentives) to make my team BETTER in an effort to achieve milestones in my career. Also, if these goals were reached, It would improve my endorsements and sponsorships. Which I am sure are affected by playing on a team that has not reached the playoffs in his entire career. But keep thinking small, it suits you.

  56. D1 Says:

    Ghost,

    I understand your point and it’s reasonable to think in those terms. My question is if Gerald
    felt this way it about his career and legacy it would be a much better decision to sign for less or restructure with another team. A team that is likely to get deep into the playoffs and has done so within the last 2 seasons or one poised to make a run.

    Tampa hasn’t instilled an once of confidence in the fan base yet alone the players. Which leads us back to why would Gerald offer to restructure a deal with the team when the team has finished dead last in the division 12 of the last 16 years. I mean, taking a pay cut to get some glory ie playoff , superbowl , is reasonable but to volunteer to reduce your pay and have no real chance to get the post season accolades is just a degree away from certifiable.

    Not to nix your idea entirely, wouldn’t it make much more sense for Winston to go to licht and negotiate a team friendly deal. Jameis is always preaching it’s a family.. great opportunity to put your money where your mouth is . Another aspect is Jameis earns huge kudos from fans and critics by an action like this as well as setting himself up for success. Winston has to have wins otherwise He’s gone. Gerald hasn’t had that pressure, will never have that pressure and can play another 4 to 5 years earning huge money while the teams piles up Ls. He’s rich, the NFL is a business and He profited from his services. Winston wants to be great, He wants a HOF career I don’t believe for a second that the money will be a sufficient substitution for a short winless career. I say short because He has to win just to remain in a starter role with a team.

    Like the idea, just not the intended recipient.

  57. BucsFIRE Says:

    ^ Not everyone has that mindset. When they do, though, it can be a beautiful thing.

    In the NHL, Steven Stamkos & Victor Hedman taking less money than they could have gotten from different markets has ALOT to do with the TB Lightning’s ability to keep this roster together.

  58. Not there yet Says:

    Give me a break uhhh one could not argue that Geraldine made JPP better. He has never made anyone elevate there game and now you think an argument can be made for him making a player better when said player is already better and has had a better career than him?

  59. Bucsdelight Says:

    McCoy is a top 5 DT. Pay the man move on.

  60. SOEbuc Says:

    He needs to be focusing on every play with fire in his eyes. Not chit-chatting about the latest Vogue that came out. No matter how many people wanna say it, the guy is far from one of the best DT in the league. A 31 year old with 6 sacks, 6 TFL, and 28 total tackles should not be getting $13 million/year. Glazers, Licht, BA, and Bowels f#cked up on this one if that’s what they’re going to be paying him. I’m far from a bandwagon fan and would love to see him be able to kill it next year. Guy has never had a great defensive staff since he got here. But we’re in a very serious many situation and this first round is the most I’ve ever seen with DL prospects. This makes me feel a lot more like a Devin White pick (which would be awesome) but I also would’ve really liked to trade back to 10-15 range and got Dexter Lawrence (Clemson) or Jeffery Simmons (MSU)

  61. SOEbuc Says:

    *very serious money situation

  62. Not there yet Says:

    McCoy is a top 5 DT. Pay the man move on.

    Only guy that makes zero difference on his team in like the top 8. I’ll give Geraldine a break you know the one he gets every year when people say he needs help. He got help and was behind Carl freaking Nassib in sacks. Guess give him yet another defensive coordinator and see what kind of excuse there is next year for lack of production, if the excuse is his age then he shouldn’t make 13 million.

  63. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @GhostofSchiano,

    Again, it would be foolish to offer to take less money. If you would do that, you’re an idiot. They are paying Jameis $20 million. McCoy is a much better DT than Jameis is a QB. McCoy is getting fair market value – actually a little below market value. Why take less if you don’t have to? Besides, why would him taking less make the team better? What free agents are we going to bring in with that money? Every single year we get free agents, and every single year they end up being terrible. Why should he take less money so they can bring in the next Michael Johnson or Swaggy Baker? He has to take care of himself and his family, just as you would do. It’s real easy for you to say what you would do, but a whole different thing entirely to actually do it.

  64. Jammin Says:

    0 sacks for 0 dollars sounds like a much greater deal than 5.5 sacks for 13 million.

  65. Cobraboy Says:

    Am I the only fan who gets tired of hearing about “how hard works?”

    I do not care how hard a player works, really, as long as his game day mojo smokes.

    Casual Fan: He works sooooo hard!

    Cynical CB: The team lost and he is largely responsible.

    Casual Fan: But but but…he wooooorks soooo hard! He’s a good guy, loves his mama! Loves Jesus and America too! He’s a good guy, crazy ’bout Elvis. Loves horses and his girlfriend too!”

    Cynical CB: Just win, baby. I’m sick of moral victories.

  66. Bucsdelight Says:

    He got help and was behind Carl freaking Nassib in sacks.
    ***********************

    Didn’t realize we were comparing DEs to DTs. Then all DTs not named Donald sucked compared to DEs.

  67. tmaxcon Says:

    Not a single meaningful win in his pathetic career swimming in the nfc south badgers Buccaneers cove. All those awards Hawaiian cancer93 personal doll dress maker crys about are meaningless in a team sport…. the only stats that matter are wins and championships…. cancer93 is nothing more than the face of the basement years and the softest player in nfl history…. somewhere between richard simmons and scared dexter Jackson on the masculinity scale.

  68. Bucsfanman Says:

    Not there yet- Just pointing out that JPP hadn’t had double-digit sacks since 2014 and the 12.5 was one of only 3 years in which he did so. I looked it up.
    No, you cannot directly correlate the two, however, you cannot simply discount it either.
    I don’t feel like he’s worth the $13 million but we don’t set the salary. That was the going rate for a DT of his production, etc…

  69. Bucs fans short memories Says:

    McCoy is a nice goofy guy that was blessed with elite size and speed. He can be that nice friendly guy 1 second then come off the ball 100 mph with force due to what God gave him physically. But his personality continues to rub off on these young players and free agnets that can’t turn the switch like McCoy. But, that’s what leadership does and McCoy has always been given the leader title and that’s bad for the bucs. The other players get relaxed and act nice and goofey like McCoy but when the whistle blows they get punched in the face since no one has the elite set of skills like McCoy and all of a sudden bucs are down 20pts. McCoy would be a great addition to a team with established leaders but him leading this defense will cause another lackadaisical underperforming squad. Ask the last 6 DCs and 4 HCs.

  70. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Kalind Says
    “I think he’s good. But at 30+ he’s a 4.5 mil a year player.”

    Hah! You really need to learn how this works. $4.5 Million is a good licker’s salary these days. Try $10 million.

    Heck, the franchise tag amount is more than he’s making!

  71. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    tmaxcon Says
    “Not a single meaningful win in his pathetic career…”

    Blah, blah blah. Name anyone on this team with a meaningful win.

  72. Buc believer Says:

    @Hawain… I’m not the one hiding… he is behind the fences at one Buc… remember he told everyone who had a problem with him to come see him and then hid behind the fences!! I HAVE called him out face to face! I sat right behind his old man at the Atlanta game! When pops turned and asked me why I hated Gerald so much I realized who it was and I told him!! GMC aid the P…SSY that’s hiding!

  73. BucsFIRE Says:

    Bonzai, you say 4.5 million is a good “licker’s salary”
    Robert Kraft just called.

  74. BucsFIRE Says:

    Buc believer,

    That last post… if you think that makes you strong? That’s even worse. You think that makes you a bad ass? Telling Gerald’s father why you HATE his son who has given 9 years of blood and sweat to the team that you are wearing a jersey of?

    Dude, seriously….
    That is even MORE f’ing pathetic.

  75. Buc believer Says:

    Buc Fire… blood sweat and 100 million of Buc loot!

  76. Buc believer Says:

    Dude a f…. Pansy!

  77. BucsFIRE Says:

    Man, do you really truly believe that Gerald McCoy has given you nothing, in 9 years? Enough to embarrass his father?

    As a Bucs fan (in which we all are brethren of sorts)… doesn’t that bother you??

  78. BigMacAttack Says:

    The poll was a little misleading because I want McCoy to stay just not at $13 million. Extend and restructure.

  79. Not there yet Says:

    Fits had two meaningful wins last year 😂😂😂😂😂

  80. Buccaneerscotty Says:

    Happy birthday McCoy! And by the way the only cancer I see is you and it’s time for some chemotherapy!

  81. Bird Says:

    He has 3 years left on Contract. You can’t just restructure to a 2 year deal for less money. That’s not how is works.

    You would have to cut and hope he takes home town discount; or the next team gets to make that decision.

    Usually to restructure you add an extra year for minimal money and change number amounts around per year.

  82. Issaic haggins Says:

    17 solo tackles , can’t stop the run is always guessing w his get off removing himself from plays ( 17 solos) . Brings no toughness to the D , never has never will ( look at the results ) . Sheldon Richardson is younger, a better player and can be had for much cheaper !!! Also brings some toughness, Also played for Bowles !!! Licht and Arians can’t be serious!!! 13 mil for how many big plays last year !!! Maybe 1 or 2 or perhaps 0 ???

    No Way !!!!

  83. SB Says:

    Buc believer Says:
    February 25th, 2019 at 5:01 pm
    Dude a f…. Pansy!

    Lol Internet tough guy!
    Not a snowball’s chance in hell you would say that to his face.

    I make it a point to Never say behind a man’s back what I won’t say to his face.
    A lesson that could help you.

  84. Buc believer Says:

    SB… you freeking people are UN..F..ing believable! Because someone calls out the most overrated player in Buc history I am an Internet tough guy. Uhh okkk… I have said to his face and would say it AGAIN to his face that his play on the field is Soft! But what the F.. ever I do t really give a sh.. what your opinion is. If you like soft football your rooting for the right player. “Oh I’m so sorry I hit you Ben my bad!”

  85. Rod Munch Says:

    GRRRR!!!!! HE READS COMIC BOOKS!!!!! GRRRRR!!!!!! THE GUY ON THE RADIO SAYS HE’S BAD!!!! GRRRRR!!!!! WE NEED TOUGH GUYS WHO GRRRR ON THE FIELD!!!! GRRRRRR!!!!!

  86. tmaxcon Says:

    Rod Munch

    how about grrrrrrrr we just want our 100 million dollar pansy arse to earn is money week in and week out and play for 4 quarters every Sunday…. face of the basement years nothing more…..SCOREBOARD

  87. Not there yet Says:

    If you look at tackles Vea missed the all of training camp and first 6 games of the year in a rookie season

    Vita Vea 28 combined tackles 4 tfl
    Gerald McCoy28 combined tackles 6 tfl

    Baltimore games showed how weak the bucs are up front and basically any big back Adrian Peterson embarrassed the bucs as well. The scheme was horrible but you still have to tackle and pressure the quarterback. Can’t blame scheme when it’s third and long and basically need to line up and go get the quarterback. Defend McCoy all you want but your defending him based on how he USED to play.

    Lol his superpower is his get off and admits he’s not as strong and fast as the other guys and now he’s 30. If We wait until he’s washed up to find his replacement we will continue to be weak up front. He doesn’t deserve better than how Derrick brooks and Simeon rice were treated. Warren Sapp didn’t get the contract he wanted and the only reason was there were other studs here. This is the year to find his replacement even if you bring him back it’s like an automatic that he’ll get injured

  88. BucsFIRE Says:

    Buc believer,

    Dude sorry, i am sure you are a cool guy, but these posts are just fukking weak. Really damn easy to say some of the things you say, without ever having strapped on the pads in the NFL.

    Come on man
    Seriously.

    I am done, wont say any more about it
    And more power to ya, Bb.

  89. Buc believer Says:

    Bucs Fire… bottom line is we are all Buc fans, and we want what is best for the team so they can bring us another Championship and bring respectability back to the Tampa Bay Area. Whoever is on the team will have my support. I just want them to try their best. I appreciate your loyalty. GO Bucs!

  90. BigMacAttack Says:

    Buc Believer, agree 💯

  91. BucsFIRE Says:

    Bucs believer,

    Right back atcha brother, on that we can definitely agree and appreciate your loyalty also. We all want so bad to see our beloved Bucs come to prominence again.

    Cheers Bb,, go Bucs

  92. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @Buc believer,

    You’re a liar, and a pitiful excuse for a human being. Gerald is probably the most easily accessible player on the team. And although I know for a fact you didn’t say anything of the sort to his dad, the fact that you would lie and say you did makes you even more pathetic.

  93. gotbbucs Says:

    I’m sure if I sat and thought about it for a while and skimmed through rosters, there’s probably 50 defensive players in the NFL that I would take in place of McCoy.

    This team cannot turn the page and change the culture on this team without getting rid of some of the common denominators through all of this losing.

    McCoy isnt a bad football player, but he’s not anywhere close to great either. This is a team that needs to start over on the defensive side of the ball and actually find an identity.
    Losing a middle level producer on the defensive line isnt creating a hole, its creating an opportunity for a younger/cheaper player to step up.

  94. Buc believer Says:

    Hawaiian you know that for a fact huh?? Funny I don’t remember seeing you at the game. I don’t care what you say or what you think I was there and you were not. As I told Bucs Fire all I want all of us Buc fans want is a winner. If Gerald is on the team fine if not I’m fine with that as well. I’m loyal to the team not the player.

  95. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @Buc Beliver,

    Trust me, I was there. And let’s say my seats would allow me to have heard had you said anything.

  96. gp Says:

    tmaxcon Says:

    somewhere between richard simmons and scared dexter Jackson on the masculinity scale.

    He FLATTENED Big Ben!
    Yes he apologized when he helped him up but…

    He FLATTENED Big Ben!

    I can just picture Richard Simmons slapping big Ben’s chest

    “Oooh you big mean man!”

    lmfao

  97. Buc believer Says:

    Yeah ok Hawaian… if you were there what did the two people GMCs dad was sitting next to look like? Can’t answer the question because I was right behind him. But whatever you can’t argue with some people and you know what I don’t even really care. Chat with you on another thread bud.

  98. SteveK Says:

    gp Says:
    February 25th, 2019 at 11:01 pm
    tmaxcon Says:

    somewhere between richard simmons and scared dexter Jackson on the masculinity scale.

    He FLATTENED Big Ben!
    Yes he apologized when he helped him up but…

    He FLATTENED Big Ben!

    I can just picture Richard Simmons slapping big Ben’s chest

    “Oooh you big mean man!”

    lmfao

    ———

    Bull spit! GMC pulled up and apologized as he made contact. I suspect the official threw the flag bc of the apology. And don’t apologize for playing hard and hitting Ben. That play might be the saddest of our defense last year. That and Conte getting stiff armed that game too.

    One guy is not talented enough to stop anybody, and the other is perennially soft.

  99. tmaxcon Says:

    Gp

    Your hundred million dollar queen makes 4 plays a year and is 100% fraud. Most overrated and softest buc of all time… CAPTAIN BLOWOUT HAS LED MORE BLOWOUTS THAN ANY OTHER BUC CAPTAIN IN TEAM HISTORY

  100. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @Buc Beliver,

    Dude, I went to 6 road games. I couldn’t remember what the people behind me looked like. Who does that? I especially don’t pay attention to losers, so maybe you were there. I know you didn’t say anything to his dad. And if you did, what does that say about you? You’re a clown, a wannabe, and a complete d bag.

  101. gp Says:

    Just trying to lighten the atmosphere by giving you the picture of Richard Simmons slapping Big Ben

    Guess that one got by ya

  102. GrayBalls Says:

    Reading what some of y’all say is hilarious. JBF is ALMOST as entertaining as PR because of you guys. Is he worth $13M? Maybe not, but team brass believes so. Seems HC Arians thinks so, too. But what would he know about talent? He ONLY has two…. TWO…. Super Bowl rings. Only two…. TWO…. Coach of The Year awards. I think I’ll take his opinion over ANY of y’all’s. Just sayin

  103. BucLover727 Says:

    McCoy is a good and reliable player. He is better than average talent/ability on our team. We need to keep Gerald and add more good players like him, not the opposite.

    The alternative: Free agency is paying big $ for a coin flip at best.

    Go Bucs!

  104. Buc1987 Says:

    Restructure and put a no quit in the 4th qrtr clause in the deal.

  105. John Says:

    McCoy is terrible. He’s an awful presence in the locker room. He doesn’t know how to win. He literally makes the team worse. His mentality he brings to the team is a mentality that no winning football player should ever have. People who have fun losing will never be winners

  106. SteveK Says:

    ^ill the alternative.

    8 years, no playoffs. Not his fault-but I hate that our defensive line has a care bear 🐻 leading the charge. Can’t be a hard nosed team with a soft mentality at DT

  107. 99.97.92.55.47.40.28.20.7 Says:

    HOF talent. do what you can to keep him. period.

  108. Hawaiian Buc Says:

    @steve K

    Did you even read the article? This soft nonsense is just that.

  109. BucsFIRE Says:

    The 2 greatest BUCS of all time are
    Warren Sapp & Lee Roy Selmon

    One was the most nasty, agitated, mean spirited, trash talking, willing to run over his mom to get to the QB….

    And the other was one of the most friendly, engaging, genuine, sincere, pleasant people to ever roam Tampa Bay….

    They are the 2 best who ever wore a Bucs uniform.

    Does this “nice stuff” dig at McCoy really need to be there?

  110. SteveK Says:

    Hawaiian,

    Yes, and our team is soft as hell. Starting up front with 93. Remember the dancing in Atlanta last year/ at the start of the fourth quarter- during an ass whooping?

    Remember our MNF game, on a 2-0 start, and 93 apologizes to Big Ben for trying to hustle and make a sack. He held up and the flag was thrown partially because he admitted fault.

    GMC is a great man, tremendous human being- but he’s not a nasty football player. He has no dog in him.

    Tired AF of watching sad, weak minded football in Tampa.

  111. Dapostman Says:

    The posters who claim McCoy is soft are clueless. If you play and achieve for most of 9 NFL seasons in the trenches you are not soft. You may be ineffective at times or you may be a liability at times but soft, NO! IMHO McCoy is still an asset and not a liability. At what price IDK for sure. 13M seems like a lot of cash but it’s not my money.

    Here’s hoping McCoy gets in the playoffs this year!

  112. SteveK Says:

    Hawaiian,

    I read the article. It says he’s nice, and comes off the ball 100 mph while the snap is off.

    Good for him! Can we get mentally tougher?

  113. SteveK Says:

    Da postman,

    Bro- the lone year the Bucs won 10 games- gMC was out.

    I love the man, GMC- just not the attitude he brings to the defensive line.

  114. Barack's Crack Pipe Says:

    Stanglassman Says:
    “How did the billionaires get so many working class spokesmen?”

    Sorry, Stan. You make a lot of good points, but you are wrong here. As fans, we have an interest in all things that affect our team, and the CBA dictates how teams may be constructed. Every contract affects how the rest of the team can be constructed, regardless how it affects the owners.

  115. Bobby Says:

    Buc believer is obviously a b%#*ch. Dude thinks we’re going to believe he was sitting behind McCoys father and and told him he hated Gerald. McCoys father would have slapped the cow walkin’ piss out of Buc believer and broken his PlayStation. I despise fake tough guys and especially when they lack football knowledge. You’re a joke dude.