George Warhop Love

January 13th, 2019

Gets props from new Bucs assistant.

A number of Bucs fans aren’t exactly losing sleep because the offensive line will have a new voice in their ears for the first time in five seasons.

When Bucco Bruce Arians was hired and he brought in his own staff (and is still adding to it), one guy replaced was five-year Bucs offensive line coach George Warhop. And while long-time NFL offensive line coach Harold Goodwin now has the lofty title of assistant head coach and run game coordinator with the Bucs, he made it clear Friday he will be very hands-on with the offensive line. And if the offensive line stinks, it is he who should take the bullets of criticism and no one else.

While this sounds great, what may depress the same Bucs fans who are not crying about Warhop’s departure is that Goodwin and Warhop are tight and Goodwin already spoke to Warhop to gain inside knowledge of his new offensive line.

In other words, you won’t get Goodwin to say Warhop’s offensive line was lousy.

“A great foundation has been laid here because Coach Warhop is also a mentor of mine as far as o-line play and I look forward to adding on to what he has started,” Goodwin said.

In fact, Goodwin, who spent one year at the University of Arizona last season, hung out at One Buc Palace last spring and confessed to sitting in on offensive line meetings as an observer.

“I spent rookie minicamp here just sitting in the back of the room, just watching,” Goodwin said. “It looked like there were a lot of smart guys, physical and athletic.”

Time will tell if the Bucs’ offensive line improves but Goodwin was clear he believes a football team’s fortunes rise and fall on the backs of its offensive linemen.

If the offensive line is subpar again, at least Goodwin made it known who should bear the brunt of the blame.

39 Responses to “George Warhop Love”

  1. #1bucfan Says:

    Plzz fix the trenches on both sides yes the defensive side got better but there is still room for improvement plz plz plz fix the trenches let’s go Bucs excited once again for a new season

  2. Guzzie Says:

    Need 3 starters on OL, gonna be tough fixing the line and have 0 respectable depth, would’ve been nice if the GM would stop using premium picks on perimeter type players, wasting picks

  3. Todd Says:

    Instead of an o-line or d-line draft pick in round one, sell my why we shouldn’t JUMP on Greedy Williams as corner?!

  4. Stevbobucsfan Says:

    Don’t know alot about Goodwin, I do know that he has been interviewed for some HC job around the nfl. my question is, how good has his OL been in places he has coached.

  5. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I still say we have the starters we need on this offensive line. They just are not starting YET.

  6. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    Draft o-line with first pick in the draft

    Protect Jamies, establish good running game, make the d#mn field goal

  7. Scotty in Fat Antonio Says:

    I’m going to assume Goodwin, like the other coaches have already admitted, have not reviewed any tape yet. Let’s ask him that question again in another month.

  8. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Left Tackle Donovan Smith or Michael Liedtke
    Left Guard Alex Cappa (natural side)
    Center Ryan Jensen
    Right Guard Ali Marpet (should never have been moved)
    Right Tackle Leonard Wester

    This is the future of our Offensive Line, and it will dominate.

    I know getting new talent is always what the fans want in an off season, but we can use that first pick elsewhere this year. Some here may not agree with me…that’s fine. But I am right.

  9. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Depth is another issue.

  10. Bird Says:

    Let’s see liedeke and

    Kappa year 2.

    Anything is better then Benenoch
    That boy good ..he good mmhhhmmmm good and terrible.

  11. William Walls Says:

    It seems to me that Goodwin is, at least a llittle bit, a Warhop disciple. But that doesn’t so much bother me. I don’t think Warhol was primarily responsible for the inconsistent play of the OL the past few seasons. There were seasons when the OL seemed to play better than anyone had a right to expect and that can only be really good coaching.

    This past year in particular, the OL was mostly a disappointment, but oddly enough, the malaise that seemed to plague them affected the rest of the offense, too. That makes it hard to say that Warhop was the problem, then. Warhop had a solid reputation and track record behind him when he was hired. There’s no evidence to suggest that the man suddenly forgot how to coach. I’m sorry to see him go, and it’s both classy and respectful what Goodwin had to say about Warhop.

    My only concern about the way things are being set up here organizationally with Goodwin being the assistant head coach, the run game coordinator, and the OL coach is that he may end up with just too many responsibilities on his plate. But at the end of the day, I’m almost 100% certain that Bruce Arians knows a whole lot more than I do about how to assemble an effective coaching staff, so I’ll withhold any actual criticism until we start to see some of the results of these decisions.

  12. TexBuc Says:

    Bruce is coming.

    In Bruce I trust.

  13. AlteredEgo Says:

    Again…it ain’t the coaching anywhere on the team…it has been the talent….particularly Buc trenches OL & DL….are you watching football this weekend ?….these games are the yardsticks !…My greatest fear is the established talent on the roster will get beat up and old before the weak links can be fixed….Licht has shot MANY holes in the bottom of the boat and we are bailing to keep up

  14. rick Says:

    Todd

    That would be my first pick as well. A true #1 cb is probably the bucs biggest need.
    Id go:
    1. Greedy
    Best Dline available, oliver/ferrel/Quinnen
    OT Jonah Williams

  15. Tackleblockwin Says:

    Gotta give these new coaches time to evaluate game footage. Pretty sure they will see the same things we do as fans.

  16. Rob in Land O Lakes Says:

    Bonzai, I would respectfully disagree with you on the fact that the correct players are already on the roster I think Jensen and Marpet can play. DSmith76 is absolutely not a LT and my hope is that he tests free agency and if teams watch his tape, no one in their right mind is going to break the bank for this guy. That being said, if that happens, I have no issue re-signing him at a reasonable number and moving him to RT, which I think is he is more natural position. Then there are two positions to fill along with depth.

  17. FlBoy84 Says:

    At least Arians acknowledged that the OL needed help and that some of the guys needed to improve their play. Thinking Goodwin was using more coach-speak and not wanting to trash Warhop publicly on the job he did developing guys. Hoping that’s the case at least.

  18. R.O. Says:

    C’mon coaches are not going to throw each other under the bus publicly. Good friends or not… I work with people I’m friendly with. That doesn’t mean I think they are good at their jobs.

  19. tmaxcon Says:

    Every single member of the offensive line is replaceable and should be replaced. Marpet will never be anything better than average to below average. Dotson has been garbage his entire career yet low standard bucfan thinks that bum belongs in the ring of underachievement… i will never understand the loyalty to crap players that low standard bucfan worships. Very few keepers on the enture roster unless you enjoy the basement.

  20. Buc4life Says:

    I’m all in on Greedy Williams, but this draft have so many premium defensive linemen it may be hard to pass on the likes of Ed Oliver if he is there at #5. We may be able to trade back with a team wanting to jump the Giants for a QB (ie the Jags) and still get Williams plus another high draft pick to address OL and DL needs.

  21. Alanbucsfan Says:

    Todd

    Because in the last 3 years Bucs have spent a 1st round pick, 3 second round picks and a 4th round pick on secondary annd they’re 5-11

  22. AlabamaBucsFan Says:

    For those who do not know, “Bucco Bruce” was the Tampa Bay’s old winking pirate logo. Just like America’s Quarterback Jameis Winston, Joe’s nicknames are a somewhat quirky not to mention a bit too far fetched and annoying.

  23. OneBuc55 Says:

    Regardless, this Offensive line group needs a new voice…

  24. Owlykat Says:

    Of course Goodwin is praising Warhop now so he can hear his knowledge on the members of his OL. So when Warhop tells him D. Smith is one of the three top OTs in the NFL and then Goodwin watches the film he will suddenly realize that Warhop fed his last HC a bunch of garbage! As Goodwin said if his OL doesn’t play well blame him. That also holds for Warhop too!!! His OL has been a hot mess his whole time here and failed to protect our QBs and couldn’t open holes for our running backs. Oh yes, Warhop is to blame for that! I will agree he can talk a bunch of convincing baloney but the film doesn’t lie. D. Smith can’t stop speed rushes and that would also be true at RT too. We have to get a first round LT! D. Smith should be tried at LG but Arians will force him to never loaf. No plays off or else. Goodwin needs to retrain the OL and fix Warhop’s Hot Mess!!!

  25. stpetebucsfan Says:

    As always QB’s are the wild card in this draft. Dwayne Haskins seems to be the flavor of the month among guys coming out early. He has a great chance of going in the top five which would just increase the value of our pick for a team looking QB.

    Now that Heisman Trophy winner Kyler Murray has turned down Oaklands millions and baseball and announced for the draft how high will he go.

    If just those two QB’s are top five or better our trade down possibilities just look better and better. Then of course Joey Bosa is projected #1 so that’s three spots right there. Add in players like Bama’s OT AND DT and the top five is looking pretty crowded.

    My fantasy is any situation where we could trade down…pick up an extra pick and still be high enough to get Greedy…but that is pretty greedy in itself.

    But we have one poster here who got my attention…he’s REALLY greedy lol. He wants to draft Greedy and trade for Patrick Peterson. Can anybody imagine looking at a defensive backfield like that? Whhooooeeee…both guys 6-1 or taller…long DB’s who can also cover fast little guys.

    That would be my true fantasy!!!!!

  26. Pryda..sec147 Says:

    Give Jaboo the time he will shred every defense

  27. stpetebucsfan Says:

    I see some potential on this line but very little accomplishment.
    Hopefully BA can get these guys to reach their potential.

    I’m like Bonzai…I see enough talent around to cobble together a decent starting OL but what about depth?

  28. Mike10 Says:

    Good riddance

  29. firethecannons Says:

    This does not bode well, Donovan Smith must be held accountable and should be paid accordingly to his level of play. The dude likes to brag on hisself for being available every snap. The problem is, he is not available mentally as he takes a vacation during the the game and Jameis gets flattened. The Dallas game was clear evidence of this. Hope Goodwin gets off Warhops altar and sees the truth.

  30. Mike Says:

    We had one day of tmax Positive Reality

    That was fun-

    Tmax=my favorite and only liked celebrity poster

    I think some of these guys may potentially be keepers

  31. SOEbuc Says:

    No problem with getting info from Warhop on these guys techniques. If the guy is a good coach, he’ll either recognize what George told him or see for himself how to make the adjustments.

  32. tmaxcon Says:

    you all need to stop accepting OK and Average couple that with your desperation you turn mediocre players into legends in your own minds.

  33. tmaxcon Says:

    mike

    i am hardly a celebrity just a beat down bucfan that can’t lower his standards or accept losing as easily of some of these delusion fools that never leave their safe spaces.

  34. TOM Says:

    Jonah Williams is this years Nelson.

  35. SOEbuc Says:

    It’s hard to say it because this oline has needed top end players for so long, but maybe for just one more year, we could try to start Leidtke at LT and see what happens. Guy was moved from OG to LT and killed it in TC and preseason last year. I still remember watching him being lights out in game three in the preseason getting %85 snaps and there is a video on YouTube of him straight up shutting down JPP. We also have a good OT in Wester. I just wouldn’t want to pass up on a young diamond in the rough when we have so many holes and no cap money.

  36. SenileSenior Says:

    If you google “Bucco Bruce ” you can find an array of versions of the image.

    Some look more like what used to be characterized as a “Dandy” to say the least.

    At least one looked like the kind of pirate look most locals in Tampa Bay think of during the Gasparlla season here. I think as Arians becomes acclimated culturally he will more likely identified with that one!

  37. unbelievable Says:

    Warhop was his mentor?

    Well that sure is uninspiring, to say the least…

  38. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Still bummed we lost out on – Interior Offensive Line Coach Sean Kugler.

    Sounds like to me – Goodwin’s having a hard time finding his place on the staff.

  39. Mike Says:

    hey hpy new yr Bonzai, LUVmybucs and all the old school Bucs fans! Listen as much Mike Smith stank it up on defense for years, so did Warhop.. okay he’s good recruiter( have he’s say on Leight’s personnel for that dept) but yrs after years and playing players out of their true position not saying they shldnt be versatile is no longer acceptable! Warhop failed D Martin big time.. Time for a change! offensive line and secondary D ..

 

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