Cameron Brate Trade Rumor Circulating
January 18th, 2019
Joe’s not big on publishing rumors — if Joe were, these pages would be filled with them — so Joe had to do some research on this source before posting this.
Apparently, across the United States, a lot of reputable outlets are willing to quote Chad Forbes, who is found on Twitter pumping out all kinds of draft info from scouting-related events he attends. They include CBS Sports, and Forbes has been a guest on many sports radio stations including the powerful WFAN in New York.
It seems Forbes has been a busy guy in St. Pete this week at East-West Shrine Game practices.
Yesterday, among the many nuggets Forbes was Twittering, he claimed Bucs tight end Cameron Brate is available in a trade.
From #Buccaneers Source team won’t ‘Shop’ TE Cameron Brate but he’s available in a trade. Deep FA TE Class & Brate just signed extension last offseason. At $7M might be value & worth a draft pick. Bucs working through ideas on creating cap flexibility.
— Chad Forbes (@NFLDraftBites) January 18, 2019
Joe would understand a Brate trade. What’s more valuable to this team right now, a quality free agent cornerback or Brate?
No, Joe is not lobbying to trade Brate, but there aren’t many teams paying their No. 2 tight end big money.
Injuries might be a factor here — in multiple ways. O.J. Howard has finished both of his NFL seasons on injured reserve. And remember, Dirk Koetter said Brate was hurt “from Day 1” this season and Koetter wouldn’t comment when Joe asked him if Brate needed offseason surgery.
Lastly, major roster overhaul is coming, which always means a fan favorite or two or three gets the boot. Might Bucco Bruce Arians might prefer to buy a running back?
January 18th, 2019 at 7:29 am
Joe…..I have asked repeatedly for information on Brate’s “mysterious” injury…..Koetter claimed he was amazed that Brate played at all……it seems odd that there would be no news regarding it.
Either he regressed and the injury was an excuse or he regressed and had no injury.
Now as for trading him…..I think BS….he is very much a favorite target for Jameis and if Jameis wants him, he will stay.
January 18th, 2019 at 7:30 am
This makes too much sense. Arians offense doesnt feature TEs so no need to keep Brate at his salary.
Trading him to clear cap space and get an asset in return would be ideal
January 18th, 2019 at 7:34 am
This was always a deal to see how OJ would do in year 2… if he did well, then you trade Brate, if OJ did poorly, you keep him around. It’s a good deal in that sure, Brate got more money up front than you’d expect, but in exchange the team bought the ability to cut him at any time with no cap hit – which obviously means you can also trade him with no cap hit.
Well handled by the front office for once.
January 18th, 2019 at 7:44 am
Around 7 million a year. 2019 salary fully guarantees on 3/17/2019
$4M of 2020 salary fully guarantees on the 5th league day of 2020.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:19 am
Well we have Ronald jones and J Rodgers.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:23 am
I suggested this last Aug . The Cap hit with OJ on the roster can’t work , this was a save our asses signing by Koetter and Licht !!! Prob not a team league wide would pay brate 7 mil but I believe the signing did create a trade value coming out of camp for a team that felt they were a weapon short . Again Light not creating value !!!!!! Rich McKay in a similar scenario traded Harold Bishop to the Browns for I think a second , Bishop def wasn’t as accomplished as Brate . A GM s Job is not just to sign its to create value Rich McKay was the Master of creating roster value . Brate has some similarities to Kelsey when targeted but let’s not confuse the two , especially after the catch !! Great player , Great Guy Just is only worth 3 mil on this roster !!!
January 18th, 2019 at 8:27 am
I like brate , I really do but if Bruce does not feature 2 the sets all that much and if the dude from Canada can be a solid backup to oj then you must trade brate to be able to either sign hump or go out and sign a legit running back
January 18th, 2019 at 8:27 am
We have Auclair being used in the H-back and big sets.
He’s proven to have sure hands when thrown to. If you were paying attention or look back, they weren’t otherworldly but not the simplest of catches either.
He needs to stop getting caught holding all the damn time. Work the arms and grip machine or something!
But I like him and he’s good on the cap.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:38 am
Fans always forget this is the season of lies. Trading Brate would be stupid.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:40 am
I get it but OJ Howard injured both years.
You keep for another year
January 18th, 2019 at 8:43 am
The whole notion is goofy. And I think the only “fan favorite” that may be gone is GMC because of age, new scheme (especially if 3-4 is primary), and GMC’s $13M cap hit, which is up to him if he wants to take less and stay a Buc. With OJ the main guy and only other formidable TE with Stocker and even Cross–gone (leaving Auclair), the Bucs need the depth, and Brate doesn’t cost much either but brings great value. As much as I hope the Bucs dump Winston (he’s bad for the franchise face and business thus far), I doubt they will draft a QB in 2019 at 5th overall. With the four teams above the Bucs not really needing a QB, a team that does will pay the Bucs dearly to trade down. Trading down just a few can easily let the Bucs still get a CB or S, and a LT high up in the draft, and probably net another 2nd or 3rd round pick in the trade. Trading either Brate or Hump right now would be dumb. Not to mention, Brate had an slight pullback in 2018. He may be the “real” Brate we saw. Brate is probably more willing to be traded than the Bucs are to trade him…as clearly he’s like to be the #1 TE, and won’t be here as long as OJ is here and healthy.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:43 am
I’m just saying that of course the team shouldn’t trade him for anything less than a third, but I’m also not front office guru.
It all comes down to what another team would trade for him, IMO.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:50 am
I’d trade him … we developed him he won’t be good for another team fleece someone Licht
January 18th, 2019 at 8:51 am
Kareem Hunt.
Can room with Jameis.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:53 am
Keep him. Don’t screw this up.
January 18th, 2019 at 8:58 am
Someone get Kevin O’Donnell to ambush Cam Brate for a second time at one of our local dining establishments.
January 18th, 2019 at 9:00 am
Ya’ll that say BA doesn’t run two tight ends don’t watch much ball, he uses them a lot just not in the conventional way of lining them up next to the tackle. In a number of his 4 wide sets 2 of the receivers are TEs. Plus you always need quality depth, I hear ya’ll complain we have no depth and now you want to get rid of quality depth. Brate may not have the speed to make the big play like OJ but he is very reliable in making the first down and tough catches on Third down. I say keep him because of the added fact OJ has not made it through a year not getting hurt.
January 18th, 2019 at 9:26 am
Aclair can catch every ball and run every route Brate does… grab a high 3 and free up the cap$$$$ for better use… of course Dead Man Walking … Jason Licht would have to find a way over his Ego
January 18th, 2019 at 9:39 am
Brate and Hump are both fan favorites and I’m sure the team would love to keep both but I’m not sure it makes business sense.
I’m guessing they keep one of them. Personally, I’d rather have Hump.
Either way aim glad the team has ignored passcatchers in the draft just based off of need. They continued drafting guys like Godwin & Watson. This makes it much easier to move on & will be huge in the future because good pass weapons don’t come cheap.
January 18th, 2019 at 9:41 am
Altered Ego……Auclair is terrible. I bet he had more fouls then catches this year.
I will be happy to see him lose his roster spot to a better player this August.
January 18th, 2019 at 9:43 am
Tough…but I’d trade Brate and let Hump test the waters and only resign at a low number…we have plenty of pass catchers and can use Hump $$$ at a position of weakness….I really like the guy but not that much
January 18th, 2019 at 9:45 am
It would be nice if we could get a rb, ol, or a cb out of this if it were true. Makes sense to trade him.
January 18th, 2019 at 9:47 am
Love to see OJ work more seams this year. I hope Bruce saw the film on 2015 and saw Winston carving up the seams with ASJ……And yeah, Jenkins dropped more then he caught. But Winston showcased that the seam was probably his best throws.
Don’t know or care anymore why Dirk took those plays off the game plan. What matters is our new HC says that he is going to gamplan around what our players can do.
I take Bruce as a man of his word and I expect to see a ton of plays down the seams this year.
GO BUCS!!!!
January 18th, 2019 at 9:55 am
I understand trading him but I don’t think it’s smart. Oj hasn’t shown he can stay healthy for a full season yet but there is still hope for him an if Brate gets back on track an healthy himself then he’s bin mostly reliable let’s go Bucs
January 18th, 2019 at 9:58 am
@jmmyjack Well said. Couldn’t agree more.
January 18th, 2019 at 10:31 am
Auclair is a drive killa!! Dude had 7 catches for 48 yards and 0 TD’s. Brate Had 30 with 6 TD’s and played hurt all year which was stated in multiple games if you watch them. Yeah he can replace Brate- MORONS!! If I’m Arians, Auclair is one of the first people I cut. He is our “blocking TE” and cannot stop getting drive killing holding penalties. He also has had some ST penalties. Stop worrying about the Glazers money and what they pay people, Cap going up again, D Jax, Grimes off payroll, possibly GMC. We don’t know how Howard will respond in recovery. Would be silly to trade him- Give Humphries 5-7 mill a year for 3 years with 10 guaranteed- any more is insane- we have Bobo that can play in the slot, maybe Watson in the slot and certainly we can get some speedster in the draft or an UDFA. Maybe you use a 5th or 6th on the Clemson kid Renfrow. We have options.
January 18th, 2019 at 10:54 am
More impact players are needed and less plodders. Brate does not create a lot of separation and guys like him pop up all over the NFL landscape. Like MeSean he’s replaceable for half the price. Save $$$ where you can and pay the impact guys.
January 18th, 2019 at 11:01 am
If the Bucs trade Brate they should get at least a 4. Not that I condone trading him. I think they should keep him at least one more year to see if OJ can stay healthy. And they definitely need to sign Hump 7 or 8 mil.
January 18th, 2019 at 11:01 am
Last 3 years-
2016 8 TDs
2017 6 TDs
2018 6 TDs
That IS impactful, just sayin’
January 18th, 2019 at 11:03 am
Forgot to mention if Bucs trade Brate, the Pats might be a good trading partner.
January 18th, 2019 at 11:15 am
TOM good idea. But I’ll say no to the 4th rounder. They got an extra Tackle on their roster right now.
Player/player….straight up. And heck, I’m desperate. I’ll throw in a late rounder if need be.
January 18th, 2019 at 11:25 am
major roster overhaul is coming
Hiring a new coach doesn’t always mean going full Lovie and gutting the roster. If major overhaul means getting rid of useless expensive players like Geraldine I’m all for it. People are automatically assuming we are going to a 3-4 and we are going to go out and draft a bunch of linebackers , it’s just weird the way the media decides what changes are coming. I’d lose it if the drafted a linebacker with the first pick but I would completely understand not banking on injured players like Beckwith and Kwon to return healthy, that hasn’t worked out well depending on injured players for this franchise but they were late round picks so I hope he goes that route again and not first round
January 18th, 2019 at 11:56 am
Future Patriot. Mark my words.
January 18th, 2019 at 11:56 am
Oh, Tom beat me to it.
January 18th, 2019 at 12:02 pm
All depth in secondary needs to be replaced. Javion Elliot, Isaiah Johnson, etc. Deonte Adams looked good the second half of the year, but everyone else can take that long nap and be replaced with vets with experience on good teams.
I WOULDN’T GIVE TWO SH!TS ABOUT TRADING JPP EITHER. THAT’S SERIOUS LOOT SPACE AND GUARANTEED TO GET PLAYER(S)/PICKS OR BOTH.
January 18th, 2019 at 12:17 pm
You guys realize player for player trades rarely ever happen right? Has there been one since the Jimmy Graham trade? Even that one had a 1st round pick involved lol
January 18th, 2019 at 1:18 pm
gracelivin Says:
“I hear ya’ll complain we have no depth and now you want to get rid of quality depth”
Yup, 100%. Everyone thinks this is Madden. You gonna go into the season with just 2 tight ends lol? Auclair is still developing, he’s no Brate yet.
January 18th, 2019 at 5:31 pm
I’d rather have Brate than Alterraun Vermer 2.0
Add an affordable veteran or two, hit the draft and let’s see if coaching can fix this
January 18th, 2019 at 6:02 pm
what happened to coach up the players you have and not your style
January 18th, 2019 at 7:25 pm
Wow the hip injury he had shows he is tough af n we need to keep him