First Down Maker
December 27th, 2018
Clutch. (Photo courtesy of Buccaneers.com.)
To hear some Bucs fans wail, America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, is the worst quarterback in the free world.
Turnovers, bad decisions, and the one that simply skyrockets some into orbit because they can complete the same passes on PlayStation, Jameis can’t hit bombs to malcontent wide receiver DeSean Jackson too often.
But statisticians from NFL Films would tell those same folks to hold up. Per the numberscrunchers, no quarterback is more clutch than Jameis. Research for NFL Matchup seen on BSPN, reveals no quarterback moves the chains as well as Jameis. Not Matty Ice. Not Ben Roethlisberger. Not Andrew Luck. Nobody.
Jameis converts 45.8 percent of third downs the Bucs offense faces. That’s impressive to Joe.
Imagine if the Bucs offense ran more pass plays outside the pocket where Jameis excels, or the offensive line wasn’t flag-happy every time they got the ball inside the opponent’s 40?
And to listen to the folks who cannot wait to run Jameis out of town, they’d be happier with the likes of Ryan Tannehill at quarterback. Yet guess who is the worst in the NFL at converting third downs?
Yup. That would be Tannehill.
As Joe likes to say, “Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.”
December 27th, 2018 at 4:07 pm
hopefully, glazers bring in kris richard!!!!!!!!
imo, he would be able to develop winston into what we know he can be….a great QB…..
we need a coach who can:
-develop talent(noah spence&VHG)
-knows how to deal with strong personalities(djax)
-fix the defense(see dallas)…..
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!!
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
December 27th, 2018 at 4:07 pm
If you draw a line down the middle of a legal pad and on one side have good stuff Jameis does and on the other side have bad stuff Jameis does, it would probably, most likely end up a wash….
December 27th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
Even more impressive when you consider our lack of a run game. Gotta believe 90% of that 45.8% was from the pass.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:08 pm
If only the Bucs could get this offense into the end zone and score points!
December 27th, 2018 at 4:09 pm
how would he develop winston?….
by having an aggressive defense and run game which is what made winston successful at free shoes…i mean FSU….
#REALISTKNOWSNOTHING!!!!…#ADIOSDIRK!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!
December 27th, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Nope just the worst starting Bucs QB these past 4 years with NO signs of improvement
December 27th, 2018 at 4:10 pm
Wonder what would happen if we had a top ten defense and could run the ball?
And maybe protect the passer a bit?
December 27th, 2018 at 4:15 pm
Stats are for losers. Points on the board win games.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
Noah Spence will never make an NFL roster again.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:19 pm
Josh Johnson is #2 on the list… He must be a GREAT QB also. Lets see what team shells out 21 million for Josh Johnson this off season.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:19 pm
Winston’s saving grace might just be that he has a one year deal. And it’s an off-season that has no QBs avialable.
Winston needs to start winning though or this is likely his last year in Tampa. He can start on Sunday.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:21 pm
Oh. And now the people have been proven right. The only time he could put up a larger score was in garbage time. If the defense holds the opposing offense down this offense goes nowhere.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
21-32 is the only important stat
The rest are meaningless
December 27th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
Playing for the Bucs contributes greatly to his W-L record.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
Dom is Gone…Licht? Says:
“Josh Johnson is #2 on the list… He must be a GREAT QB also. Lets see what team shells out 21 million for Josh Johnson this off season.”
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If he does it in a body of work that is more than 2 games, they might.
But he won’t.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:27 pm
Just to show you how absolutely meaningless this stat is, look at who is #2, lol
First downs mean nothing unless you are putting points on the board and winning games.
Stats are for losers. Period.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:28 pm
LakeLand Says:
“21-32 is the only important stat
The rest are meaningless”
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We all agree on that as the stat we care about.
The point of the above stat, is that JW is quite capable of leading a team downfield consistently and moving the chains. The rest can be rounded out with a little bit better coaching.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:28 pm
The garbage time MVP excels at moving the chains against opposing prevent defenses.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
LakeLand Says:
December 27th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
21-32 is the only important stat
The rest are meaningless
I will ask the question again.
Name the QB in the history of the game that has won with a bottom 5 rushing attack, a bottom 5 defense, and a bottom 5 kicking game? I’ll wait….
December 27th, 2018 at 4:31 pm
Josh Johnson being included doesn’t mean the stat is good or bad.He has started a few games and doesn’t have the number of attempts that the others do.It would be like a September baseball callup won the ERA or batting average title.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:32 pm
The immortal Josh Johnson is #2
December 27th, 2018 at 4:33 pm
Jameis has the skill set to get the job done. Poor coaching and scheming, bad O-line play, the lack of a run game, which pairs nicely with bad O-line play, and the absence of a reliable kicker are the main reasons for the loses. Unfortunately, Ls are traditionally placed on the QBs shoulders, although I don’t think that’s always fair. Has he ever made bad decisions? Yes. Has ball security been a problem at times? Yes. But even the greats, which I’m not saying he is, have had those problems. I really want to see what a new Head Coach and OC can do with Jameis, and I agree totally with Joe. Be careful what you wish for. I remember when Doug Williams was labeled the only person in the world that could overthrow the Ayatollah (in Iran for you newbies). He was run out of town and went on to take the Redskins to a Super Bowl. Just goes to show what a different environment can do for a player.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:33 pm
I would like to see how Aaron Rodgers looks with no running game, a sieve of an offensive line, the worst defense in the league and a kicker who can’t hit the broadside of a barn. But yeah let’s blame Winston for everything.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:34 pm
Ndog, you must have been reading my mind!
December 27th, 2018 at 4:34 pm
Give Winston at the very least an average offensive line and an average run game and he would excel. Unfortunately Winston plays behind a below average O-line which translates to a below average run game. I guess next Winston will be expected to kick field goals and return punts.
When the Glazer lads break the glass on the emergency box out will pop Kris Richard.
Get it right Glazers…. GET. IT. RIGHT. THIS. TIME.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
I’d like to know how stat that computes in the red zone….
We know Jameis & the Bucs can move the ball down the field….but the choking in the red zone and the turnovers kill us.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:36 pm
Just shows me how important it is to extend Hump’s contract again. He bails Winston out a lot.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:37 pm
21-32? I forgot Jameis plays defense, offensive line, running back and special teams. Blame Jameis for everything. It’s just amazes me! Barry Sanders was a great running back and how many super bowls, I’m sorry winning seasons did he have. It take more than a QB to win a game especially when your defense is giving up 30 points a game since you been in the league.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:40 pm
PSL…and other enablers … all the talent fix’n ain’t gonna do a damn thing for Jameis’s poor accuracy…. all the fix’n will only make it more frustrating when Jamyth can’t close the deal at the end of each season when the good teams each year play each other in loser goes home
December 27th, 2018 at 4:40 pm
I just don’t understand why “Bucs fans” see a positive trait about their QB and the first thing they want to do is say no that can’t be right he sucks. But at the same time they say the coaching staff sucks. So do these people really believe that the coaching staff has no bearing on the performance of the players when they clearly admit the coaching is poor? I mean isn’t it common sense that one great influences the other? I mean guys we talk about the lack of scoring and want to blame the QB when it is a documented fact that our oline and running game are poor. Do you guys really in your heart think that doesn’t effect our ability to score? I mean guys I know you might hate him for other reasons but really do you really blame him for the lack of scoring when team don’t even worry about our running game and strictly protect against the pass? No matter how you feel wouldn’t be prudent to see what he could do with a running game and a defense?
December 27th, 2018 at 4:40 pm
Meanwhile, the backup QB put up better numbers this year than the starter.
Regardless, Jay-Miss has to be brought back next year and the team needs to franchise him, and franchise him again until they can find a replacement. This team cannot make the same mistake that Miami and Cincinnati did with their QB situation. Bucs cannot give him the big money, long term deal. He’s not good enough.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:45 pm
first down maker but heart breaker.
like the bucs have been for so long.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:46 pm
no good stat will go unignored by the haters, we all know that.
Like the fact that the kid took over a 2-14 team…..
December 27th, 2018 at 4:47 pm
D-Rome better numbers? I thought the only number that mattered to Winston detractors was wins.
This season Fitz is 2-5 and Jameis is 3-5.
Granted both are not good enough but who has better numbers?
December 27th, 2018 at 4:49 pm
Don’t care about any of these stats you put up here joe. His time is up. Draft will Grier.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:50 pm
Dirk’s offense is a first down machine maker. Winston and Evans are 1st down machines. It’s the red zone where you can’t get anymore first downs that are the problem. Same thing happened in Atl and Jax.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:51 pm
D-Rome Says:
December 27th, 2018 at 4:40 pm
Meanwhile, the backup QB put up better numbers this year than the starter.
Regardless, Jay-Miss has to be brought back next year and the team needs to franchise him, and franchise him again until they can find a replacement. This team cannot make the same mistake that Miami and Cincinnati did with their QB situation. Bucs cannot give him the big money, long term deal. He’s not good enough.
See you folks say stats don’t matter only wins but you say the backup played better but the starter won more games this year than the backup. So stats aren’t important unless there the ones you want unless it doesn’t prove what you want then they don’t matter again. Guys just face it he could go 40 for 41 with 3TDs and no turnovers and you would complain about that one incomplete pass. You hate the guy we get it but just don’t talk out of both sides of your mouth cause you make zero cents.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:52 pm
The 2014 Tampa Bay Buccaneers tanked for Jameis Winston
Four seasons later in 2018, they’re tanking with Jameis Winston
No improvement in 4 seasons
December 27th, 2018 at 4:53 pm
Buc4life7878 Says:
“Draft Will Grier.”
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…. and then please push me in front of a bus.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:54 pm
Most think Winston coming back is a given. Happy to hear we have that position settled at least.
December 27th, 2018 at 4:57 pm
Better coaching can help this entire team improve Winston does really well on 3rd down except in the redzone. I give his props for this except this team stalls too much in scoring range. And why the freak is Josh Johnson #2 on this list, ya kinda have to look at this list sideways and squint before saying yea I can see this list being true
December 27th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
Wait who says we want Ryan Tannehill. I just want the best for the Bucs. Be it Jameis or whoever. We can play this whole guess what you wish for with everyone. Be it Jameis. McCoy. Jackson. Barber. David. Koetter. Licht. And whoever. To many people on here like to think they know everything and what’s wrong with this team and how they can fix it.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:01 pm
Two words
Garbage
Time
Trade Winston for Tannehill? Maybe if we throw in a few draft picks, the Dolphins might consider it.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:03 pm
Blah, blah,blah I can’t believe we gave up Josh Johnson!!!
December 27th, 2018 at 5:09 pm
Not there yet Says:
“And why the freak is Josh Johnson #2 on this list”
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It’s kind of like when I guy is batting .333 but he only has 18 at bats.
Josh as only thrown a handful of passes so far.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:11 pm
Morgus the Magnificent Says:
“Trade Winston for Tannehill? Maybe if we throw in a few draft picks, the Dolphins might consider it.”
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That’s hilarious. The Dolphins couldn’t do that fast enough, but it would be them throwing in picks. And it would SUCK for us.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:11 pm
Joes man crush on Winston is almost to
Painful to bare. Look at the others that came out
And I would take anyone of them over JW
Trubisky
Mayfield
Mariota
Hell ide consider Darnold or Allen even
4 years is enough of a sample for me
Sorry joe Jameis is not the answer
December 27th, 2018 at 5:12 pm
If you want to keep the glass half full the defense had a 39.9% conversion rate on third downs which is middle of the pack.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:13 pm
I expected the D to be last of close to it but they were not.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:14 pm
Get this team a real o-line and head coach and Jameis may just silence the haters.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Actually I take that back the haters are gonna hate no matter what.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:21 pm
As Jamies haters would say
“He wouldn’t be in third down in the first place if he was an elite quarterback”
Joe
Show us the stats on quarterbacks who don’t know how to read a play clock
December 27th, 2018 at 5:21 pm
Wesley Says:
“the haters are gonna hate no matter what.”
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You may be right about that, but I have a feeling that there are only a handful of true “haters” out there.
Most of the detractors are just frustrated and want JW to be better. As we ALL do.
— I definitely believe he can be and I am a JW fan.
… but he has to prove it to the detractors.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:21 pm
Wesley when Winston stops fumbling bumbling stumbling the critics will stop criticizing. Real Buc fans don’t hate their own players but when criticism is due for lack of focus or discipline it needs to be said. Tired of the constant sugar coating of average play no matter what the players potential may be.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:25 pm
What are his numbers inside the red zone? That is when the offense self destructs. Shame really. Not all on Winston either.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:27 pm
America’s QB has become the Rodney Dangerfield of NFL. I guess we should be happy he isn’t Richard Pryor aka Josh Freeman
December 27th, 2018 at 5:38 pm
Bejesusbelt Says:
December 27th, 2018 at 5:25 pm
What are his numbers inside the red zone? That is when the offense self destructs. Shame really. Not all on Winston either.
I’ll make this easy math for everyone. Since everyone knows we can’t run the ball each time in the endzone means the defense is going to have 7 players dropping into the endzone. Of course we also know that we have a tough time pass blocking so we keep in the back and at times the tightened as well, so that means we have usually 5, sometimes 4, running routes. So that is 7 covering 5 from the snap with no hesitation due to a lack of running game. It’s simple there is no where to throw the ball. Then mix in the fact that we don’t do anything creative with our motion, routes or presnap you get a crappy redzone team.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:38 pm
We should really get back to the real source of the Bucs win lose record turnover ratio. The Bucs are second to last only to SF and you see their record. If you turn the ball over you lose 50-75% of the time or more. It is a little more complicated but not much! The only chance Winston has as a leader and QB is STOP turning it over. That is the simplest way to put it!
December 27th, 2018 at 5:38 pm
We rank 29th in rushing currently.
We rank 1st in passing yards per game and 3rd in total offense.
We rank 29th in points allowed on defense.
All of you who think our win loss record is on Jameis are laughable and I’d be curious to know how many of you played football after pee wee. Some of you have comprehension skills like peewee players…
Guess what happens when you get to the red zone, geniuses? Our passing game becomes nullified because you have a lid on the top of the field and defenses can really pin their ears back with no consequence of getting burned by the run or having our O-line stonewall ANYBODY. Take your hate for the young man somewhere else because it’s honestly appalling. Funny how none of these haters can bring any evidence to the table other than our win loss record.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:39 pm
Buc n Jim, how many takeaways do we have this year?
December 27th, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Ndog gets it…
December 27th, 2018 at 5:52 pm
You guys have been brain washed by Koetter when it comes to TOs. Are they important yes but for example Nick Folks has started 4 games this year and he has a TO in everyone of them yet his record is 3-1. Teams win and lose games not one players TOs. Those are going to happen but it is not illegal to get a TO yourself every once in awhile to help your offense out.
Mahomes has 13 TOs in 16 games this year so how is it possible they are winning. Guys Koetter is an idiot, he runs a high risk offense and yet bases all of winning and losing on TOs that is just flat stupid.
December 27th, 2018 at 5:58 pm
Better quarterbacks than Winston. Luck Rodgers Trubisky Ryan Brees Brady Roethlisberger Manning Dalton Cam Smith Wilson Stafford Rivers Carr Watson Cousins Foles Wentz Mahomes. So anyway yea our guy pretty much stinks
December 27th, 2018 at 6:05 pm
Pat Mahomes is on a team with a terrible defense but they figure out a way to win.
So all of you idiots that blame the defense for Winston’s pathetic record can kick rocks.
Peyton Manning had bad defenses as well and won.
But all you FSU nut riders blame every single thing except the source.
You’re all idiots.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:11 pm
So Norm you think Dirk Koetter is a good of a coach as Andy Reid? And BTW the KC defense is still better than the Bucs AND their running game is much better than the Bucs (16 to 29) Also their kicker has missed 3 kicks ALL SEASON compared to ours missing at least one weekly. So again not quite apples to oranges my friend but you keep making stuff up to make yourself feel better.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:17 pm
2nd most turnovers in the NFL since 2015. Behind only Blake Bortles.
I dont see Joe making excuses for Bortles. Nor would he.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:18 pm
This fanbase is horrible. Period.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:24 pm
The 4 years prior to Jameis Winston the Tampa Buccaneers won 17 games total. In the 4 years after Jameis Winston the Buccaneers have won 25 games and counting.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:40 pm
The Yucs are horrible
The fanbase is only mocking them
December 27th, 2018 at 6:43 pm
Ofcourse dirk sucks.
But he doesn’t make Winston throw interceptions or fumble the ball every 4th drive.
Look dude no matter what anyone says you’re gonna believe Winston is the best QB to ever grace the earth and that’s fine. However those of us with a little common sense believe he is average.
I mean come on all of you have stated that he needs a great defense a great running back a great kicker and great coaches to be successful. So in other words he needs everything around him to be perfect to win. That’s bullspit because you same idiots claimed that he would immediately make everyone around him better and he doesn’t. You all also said because he’s so great he would make up for a running game. You all are changing your tune to fit your stupid pathetic narrative.
And the truth is he’s average or barely above if everything is perfect .
Most QB’s that are average can find some success with a good defense a good running game and good coaches. He does not make others around him better and f you believe otherwise you shouldn’t be allowed to watch football.
I agree we have no other options so he will be here next year. But year 4 has not proven him to be much better than his rookie year. Sure he’s a little better but not number one pick better.
You guys are so far up his as s that no matter what anyone says you will never believe anything other than he’s the greatest to ever live. You’re all just looking for the next person to blame.
If he went to Florida you FSU jock sniffers would be singing a completly different tune. Bunch of hypocrites.
December 27th, 2018 at 6:45 pm
Cue all the “I’m not an FSU fan I’m a Bucs fan” bullsh it.
December 27th, 2018 at 7:11 pm
I remember when Doug Williams was labeled the only person in the world that could overthrow the Ayatollah
maybe the greatest sports comment of all-time. i liked Doug Williams too but this was an all-time great line. still funny today
December 27th, 2018 at 7:35 pm
Hey Norm how about instead of calling people jock sniffers why don’t you use facts to refute my points? Oh that’s right you don’t have any I forgot for a second.
December 27th, 2018 at 7:41 pm
I think it’s fair that most of you say bad coaching & oline play is a major problem for any QB..but come-on guys & girls , jameis is a bad QB…period ! I watch the same stupid look on his face after 4 years & if the bucs were to have much better oline & coaching the only thing left we’d be talking about is jameis and his crummy QB play..I for one am over this guy and can’t wait until we even get a game manager w/ good coaching & oline play
December 27th, 2018 at 8:01 pm
No QB is more clutch than JW?! Does converting a 3rd down equal points? Does converting a third down equal wins? No and no.
Clutch QBs will their team to victory in the 4th quarter no matter what happens during the other 3 quarters.
JW needs to go.
December 27th, 2018 at 8:07 pm
Whatinthebuchappend Says:
December 27th, 2018 at 7:41 pm
I think it’s fair that most of you say bad coaching & oline play is a major problem for any QB..but come-on guys & girls , jameis is a bad QB…period ! I watch the same stupid look on his face after 4 years & if the bucs were to have much better oline & coaching the only thing left we’d be talking about is jameis and his crummy QB play..I for one am over this guy and can’t wait until we even get a game manager w/ good coaching & oline play
So your evaluation is “the look on his face”? Dude your just looking for something to not like. Try watching a little football them come back and talk with the grown ups.
December 27th, 2018 at 9:16 pm
It’s funny how the detractors claim us supporters think he is the best QB in the league. I have yet to see one poster claim he is elite or the best QB. If it weren’t for idiots on here saying stupid junk like Foles or Dalton or Stafford is better or Jameis is terrible, then there wouldn’t be the need to defend the best QB this franchise has ever had! It’s amazing that he needs to be defended.
Is he a top 5 QB? No and I don’t think anyone would claim he is at this point.
The defense for Jameis is we all can see the talent and the lack of a full team built around him yet simple minded football fans that don’t truly grasp the concept of the sport seem to believe he is the main problem with this team.
I can’t wait for next year!
December 27th, 2018 at 9:33 pm
Jameis is the top QB in the league when it comes to yards per attempt, 3rd down success, and QBR when passing outside of the pocket. Sometimes I feel like we don’t deserve him. With a capable defense, a running game, and an offensive line that can actually protect him, he could be extremely dangerous.
December 27th, 2018 at 9:37 pm
Alaskan.
Don’t know what posts you haven’t seen. It’s all over the place. Go back and look at a random Jameis article.
Elite …top 5. …hall of famer
All used.
And he keeps being compared to manning , elway, Brady , Rodgers All the greats
December 27th, 2018 at 10:15 pm
The issue is that ESPN has been killing Jameis since his college days and they continue to be more harsh on him than others but that is fine it’s not like the national media knows anything about the Tampa teams anyways. The sad part is that so many of our do called “fans” buy into the national narrative that our local lazy media also picks up. For example just now most fans are realizing that DJax was an issue but folks that actually pay attention for themselves knew that he was a divisive factor since about week two last year. I implore all fans to watch for themselves and don’t just parrot what ESPNs and Sports Illustrated honks tell you to believe. For instance if you listen to anything by the national media they will tell you that Jameis being here next year is still up in the air when most of us are well aware he is going to be here next year.
December 27th, 2018 at 10:19 pm
Bird- I read every article, and most but not all the comments, it gets too exhausting and depressing.
I have heard Jameis referred to as elite in certain aspects of his game but I don’t think anyone claims he is a top 5 QB right now.
Maybe they say he is going to be elite or a HOFer which is just speculation anyway, nobody knows what the future will hold.
Bottom line is he is a middle of the pack QB with a below average line and terrible run game. Throw in some really historical bad defenses and I have a hard time blaming a 21-32 record on Jameis. If anything he has won despite having a team around him and he should be regarded as a bright spot.
I get that some fans have written him off for offfield stuff but to say he is a bad QB is a lack of football intelligence IMO.
December 27th, 2018 at 10:44 pm
Josh Johnson is #2 with his small sample size. Just goes to show, Stats are for losers. Nothing means a darn except a W.
December 27th, 2018 at 10:46 pm
@Bird,
You forgot Favre. Apparently, we don’t see it but Jameis Winston is Brett Favre too. Brett Favre made nobodys into somebodys. It’s the other way around here.
SMDH, Delusional.
December 27th, 2018 at 10:46 pm
Yah. I don’t think terrible. I think average right now. I think he will be back. Maybe new regime gets going in right direction.
He does get a lot of criticism and I think cause this site has annointed him “America’s quarterback “ and People will blame everything and anything except Jameis. There a few that hate. But how can you hate when he is a buc. Most just frustrated with the hypocrisy more then anything.
For example. They call McCoy worthless and his numbers are average right nine . Not gonna disagree on average number
Yet Jameis gets the benefit of doubt every time. Always an excuse. Yet his numbers are average.
Just saying
December 27th, 2018 at 10:49 pm
@Ndog
The media selects specific people to continually use as a punching bag for clicks or views. These false narratives are spread to fit their personal agendas. For the past 5-6 years now, football fans have been consistently feed with negative criticism about Jameis Winston. Many of them choose to believe what they read and wrongfully call him a “Thug”. Both the national and local media are to blame for this.
December 28th, 2018 at 12:58 am
I’m late to the party but how about we get Winston a competent coach🤔
December 28th, 2018 at 3:07 am
Knack,
A couple things . I’ve heard Jameis called a few things but never a thug. Who in the local and or national media has called Jameis a thug ? I can’t believe ESPN or any national media outlets would use a word that is deemed offensive and racist. without significant backlash.
Being I recall no public confession and subsequentl apology by a news outlet I’m curious about who you’re accusing.
The other is, specifically what false narrative are you talking about? Yes, theres been reports from both national and local media that paint a negative portrait . But what’s the false narrative and why . What’s the purpose of creating it . Because ultimately there’s a goal. 99.9% of the time the goal is political. What’s the goal..
December 28th, 2018 at 7:54 am
TheNorm Says:
“Cue all the “I’m not an FSU fan I’m a Bucs fan” bullsh it.”
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Because you know ALL, right, Norm? lol
December 28th, 2018 at 7:58 am
Ndog Says:
If you listen to anything by the national media they will tell you that Jameis being here next year is still up in the air when most of us are well aware he is going to be here next year.”
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Very true, Ndog. I have noticed that.
Hopefully Jameis will get a chance to flourish with the next regime that comes in here. There has got to be a young offensive creative mind that sees all of the skills that #3 has, and realize he is more than capable of leading a team to the playoffs.
December 28th, 2018 at 8:56 am
^^ Sorry Norm, that one above was from me. Apparently I had forgotten to log in.
December 28th, 2018 at 9:57 am
@D1 I never said that the media has called him a “Thug”. I was referring to what the anti-Jameis mob repeatedly calls him.
December 28th, 2018 at 10:28 am
If you want to pay a between the 20s superstar millions bring him back… just make sure you get another QB who can actually finish the job when we get inside the 20
December 28th, 2018 at 10:44 am
@D1
As for the false narratives, Jameis has been portrayed as a sexist, thief (explained to Jim Harbaugh that Butcher let him take the crab legs for free), a bad leader, and overall a below-average human being.
Their purpose for creating these false narratives, besides for clicks or views, is to have a story of who they want to perceive as a failure. The ultimate story of the #1 overall pick in 2015 NFL Draft, being a complete and utter bust. That’s why you only hear about Jameis Winston in the national media after a horrible game, and rarely ever after one of his great games.
December 28th, 2018 at 10:55 am
Their purpose for creating these false narratives, besides for clicks or views, is to have a story of who they want to perceive as a failure. The ultimate story of the #1 overall pick in 2015 NFL Draft, being a complete and utter bust. That’s why you only hear about Jameis Winston in the national media after a horrible game, and rarely ever after one of his great games.
BINGO!
December 28th, 2018 at 3:54 pm
Interesting how only 3 of those 11-QBs listed are heading to the playoffs. Probably means this statistic isn’t as valuable as we’re led to believe.
December 28th, 2018 at 4:28 pm
Alfredo ego
U don’t know a football from a banana!