Koetter Calls Out “Biggest Negative”
August 19th, 2018
Discipline downer
The Buccaneers’ goal in every game under Dirk Koetter is six penalties or less.
Why isn’t it zero? Simple.
First, there are acceptable penalties, the one’s stemming from intelligent aggression and/or protecting your quarterback. Second, nobody’s perfect and six penalties in one game is roughly one penalty less than the average around the NFL.
Last night against the Titans, the Bucs had 10 penalties for 100 yards and too many were of the pre-snap/stupid variety.
Dirk Koetter was not happy after game, “Too many. Way too many. That’s probably the biggest negative on the night. Way too many penalties.”
Koetter went on to say officials have been cracking down on certain calls and the Bucs didn’t do a good job conforming to what they knew was coming.
“We talk about adjusting to how their calling it. I think that’s one of the few things we did not do a good job of tonight,” Koetter said.
Joe’s not worried about penalties tied to the newer rules on tackling. Joe’s Saturday night head shakes went to the red-zone-drive-killing calls. And Caleb Benenoch’s screw up lining up on a 39 yard field goal was brutal.
What might be most troubling — yes, it’s only preseason — is the fact that the Koetter team theme this summer has been “Discipline Driven.”
Joe looks forward to a quality cleanup job for Friday night’s Week 3 preseason game against the Lions, the “dress rehearsal” game.
August 19th, 2018 at 9:06 am
The missed tackles were more atrocious than those flags.
August 19th, 2018 at 9:13 am
Kwon’s lack of awareness as a middle linebacker is a big negative
August 19th, 2018 at 9:35 am
“Justin Evans is how i can buy my kids shoes”
Chris Conte
“Kwonie the matadour should be traded and move in Beckwidth”
Kobe Faker
August 19th, 2018 at 9:43 am
If I’m going to panic it’s exactly over what DK observed about penalties.
I think we can be decent to good this year…but we’re nowhere near powerful enough to survive Buc brand stupid penalties.
The pre snap penalties are driving me crazy and have cost this team over the past few seasons. I just hope it doesn’t continue like it did lt night.
August 19th, 2018 at 9:45 am
I agree with the guys above, Kwon is being exposed as a bit of a liability.
August 19th, 2018 at 9:54 am
good thing penalties weren’t much of a concern against the dolphins or else this would be really troubling
August 19th, 2018 at 10:00 am
Warhop is no disciplinarian and the culprit for all those penalties.
August 19th, 2018 at 10:03 am
I’m pretty sure the only reason Kwon made the pro bowl last year (popularity contest) is cuz he has a bigger mouth than his skill set.
August 19th, 2018 at 10:08 am
Peanalties definetly bad. Hopefully the upcoming injury report isn’t worse.
August 19th, 2018 at 10:19 am
Fitzpatrick was really inaccurate on short throws last night. Big potential problem.
Also, keep Justin Watson. Martino and Reedy are here year after year with little impact.
August 19th, 2018 at 10:36 am
Penalties are a killer. There were far too many on the offensive line, IMO. It’s the pre-season but it better get cleaned up quick.
August 19th, 2018 at 10:53 am
Surprised reading the articles and comments that nobody mentioned the final score of the game as I fell asleep with six minutes to go in the game. No biggie, the Bucs won and the game did not count.
August 19th, 2018 at 11:02 am
What happens if Fitz gets injured in the first game?
Griffin needs playing time with the starters in a big way. I’m all for making Jameis the #3 in the next two games.
August 19th, 2018 at 11:03 am
They cam clean up the penalties. They cannot clean up the lack of effort from the linebacker group. There were several 5plus yard runs in which the LBs lack of effort was the root cause. Even “super star” Lavonte David was jogging on several plays.
August 19th, 2018 at 11:14 am
Went to the game last night was nice to see a lot of Bucs fans! And titans fans whining about the flags, clean it up Bucs we don’t need any help going backwards
August 19th, 2018 at 11:17 am
Please fix our running game. No balance=4-11 year. I see no signs of life in the run game. BIggest worry imho.
August 19th, 2018 at 11:20 am
Wow, some of you JBFers are brutal today after a big win. Fitz was “really inaccurate on short throws last night?” Personally thought the receivers should’ve caught those first couple of passes he threw (OJ dropped two early-on that he definitely should’ve caught). And then “lack of effort from the linebacker group?” I thought the starters hung in there pretty well against a very talented Titans’ team (although I do agree with Pete that “Kwon is being exposed as a bit of a liability”). But Kobe, I don’t think Kwon should be traded; he needs to be moved outside once Beckwith comes back from injury. And Owlykat, Warhop isn’t my favorite coach by any means, but he’s not out on the field either. I saw at least 2 penalties called because the OLine didn’t line up properly … sorry, but that’s on the player, not the coach.
August 19th, 2018 at 11:22 am
NewTampaChris Says
“Also, keep Justin Watson. Martino and Reedy are here year after year with little impact.”
I agree about Reedy. He was a bubble+ player, and has been all along. By bubble+, I mean a bubble player with only a slight edge. Quite simply, Reedy has been outplayed by other players who are on the bubble.
Frankly, I think Wilson and Baily should get more time with second stringers to see if they can maintain what they are showing.
August 19th, 2018 at 11:48 am
think kwon might be better at the W, beckwith woulda started had he not got hurt
August 19th, 2018 at 11:58 am
I’m tired of the Winston heaving plays – that’s the biggest negative!!!
August 19th, 2018 at 12:34 pm
Last Sunday Hawaii ripped me for suggesting we trade Kwon to the Raiders…Salary cap issues and all
I kind of said it tongue in cheek, but now???
Dude looks lost or disinterested or both. I think he kept his jersey tucked in though, so there’s that.
August 19th, 2018 at 12:36 pm
Maybe Kwon needs an inspirational “tackling” T shirt…
August 19th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
If this team doesn’t succeed
1. Offensive line penalties
2. Below average linebacker play
3. Allowing big plays on defense
August 19th, 2018 at 1:53 pm
oline is HORRID… dotson washed up bum that never was, no RG and Smith is the most overrated buc since that career loser at dt. linebacker is hardly a strength either, kwon is clueless and can’t tackle, lvd has not been good since schiano and beckwith has injury concerns. it’s a buc life…. here comes another basement title to keep the glazer clowns proud and happy.
August 19th, 2018 at 1:54 pm
And Caleb Benenoch’s screw up lining up on a 39 yard field goal was brutal.
That drew my ire, as well, Joe. You can’t take points off of the board like that. Thankfully CC bailed him out.
August 19th, 2018 at 2:07 pm
Meh all around even mr Winston sand his tom foolery.
Can kwon play safety bc mlb he is not.
August 19th, 2018 at 3:09 pm
What was with all the hands to the face penalties last night. I think there were 5 called on the Bucs!
August 19th, 2018 at 4:15 pm
This is why i don’t read comments during the season. People have no clue what they are talking about?
Kwon a liability? In preseason?
LVD is garbage? Are you all new here?
Is the Dline doing their jobs and holding their assigned gaps? I dont know but you geniuses must to be able to assign blame.
So many positives and y’all still b!tchin.
Funny how all you care about is wins until we win and you are still whining about a few plays or stats. Freakin hypocrites.
Great game.
Go BUCS!!
August 19th, 2018 at 6:33 pm
The pentalties down in the redzone are all attitude.
You line up for a 2nd and 1 and get driven back 3 yards the Defensive Line you’re going against gets jacked up and starts feeding off of adrenaline.
First off you absolutely can not let another team steal momentum like that. That’s just being unprepared. Secondaly if they do steal momentum you need to have a way to put the fire out. In the situation last night you had a timeout at you disposal to regroup. It was only the 1st half so burning a TO is not as big a deal as an endgame situation.
August 19th, 2018 at 6:38 pm
Alaskan, when Kwon got off of injury last year he was playing very bad football. Flat-footed for three games bro. Not the first time he’s had strings of poor games for us.
Kwon is definitely not above needing to improve his game and get more consistent.
August 19th, 2018 at 6:44 pm
Bucs got f-cked on two major penalties last. NEW RULE: NOT ALLOWED TO USE ENTIRE BODY WEIGHT ON QB TACKLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wtf is that? This is getting so much more sad year after year. Penalty 2: PI on Bucs deep ball underthrown where the WR stopped to try to go back and the good coverage ran into him. People say Koetter is soft but you can definently tell in his PCs he hates how the NFL is killing the game with these new rules.
August 19th, 2018 at 7:04 pm
Jimmy Jack
I agree man, Kwon is not beyond criticism, but to say he needs to be traded or is a liability is just being dramatic for effect.
I see him flying through gaps and over pursuing but this is the time to sharpen his timing. I’m not worried about the leader of our defense. He will be fine and so will LVD.
Our defense will look a lot better without Ryan Smith on it. No joke how the frick is he so high on the depth chart. That tells me we need corners. Justin Evans at nickel? Are you kidding me? Go get a freakin vet for insurance to be our #4 or 5 guy.
Go BUCS!!
August 19th, 2018 at 7:19 pm
Alaskan a lot of what we are seeing in the secondary right now is due to injury. I was starting to get excited about our secondary then last night we see no Davis or Whitehead. I hope these are just precautionary issues. If not we are in trouble as their plan is too get a lot of use out of these rookies.
With Justin Evans I believe they just had him prepped for nickle in case some guys got injured on the field and they needed an emergency nickle. I kinda saw that as a ringing endorsement for Evans that the staff has that much trust in him to handle a new position on the fly.
August 20th, 2018 at 6:27 am
When it comes to enforcing penalties based on brand new rules that the NFL wants to implement, the league’s refs (and possibly the NFL itself) love to make examples out of the Bucs. Just ask Simeon Rice. I see that this time honored tradition continues. My prediction: the Bucs will be on a roll early in a game, but refs will call a weird penalty based on some arcane rule that will destroy the team’s momentum. Just ask Lavonte David. Just keep playing hard guys!