Randy Moss Coaches Up Jameis

July 11th, 2018

Help from a legend.

America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, likes to fish with Warren Sapp.

And now he is also heeding the advice of another NFL legend, Randy Moss.

The Hall of Fame wide receiver was in Tampa recently to work out with NFL receivers and Jameis joined in the fun to hone his passing skills. While there, Jameis was also being counseled by Moss.

Moss readily admits he’s been in trouble before, too, to help guide Jameis through these tough times.

Moss spoke on-camera with WTVT-TV sport anchor Kevin O’Donnell who said Jameis’ latest issue is just a “bump-in-the-road.”

Jameis might need to surround himself with friends of impeccable character to help shield him from potential trouble or becoming a target, Moss even suggests.

You can see O’Donnell’s full report with Moss in the video WTVT-TV below.

69 Responses to “Randy Moss Coaches Up Jameis”

  1. Kobe Faker Says:

    “Jameis likes to fish with Warren Sapp” ????

    Warren Sapp? “I put down $600 on the table and we got naked” Warren Sapp?

    And people want to know how and why?

    LOL!

    Sapp the mentor should be banned 20 miles from 1buc place and near JW3

    LOL!

    “Forrest Gump is stupider than I thought”

    Kobe Faker

  2. Bucs fan #7423 Says:

    You better win this year Jamies

  3. Walter Seidel Says:

    Cut him now.

  4. Buc4L Says:

    GO BUCS!!!

  5. Im tired and 87 is right Says:

    Go Bucs!

  6. Buc believer Says:

    Love that Moss was able to transform himself. All these self righteous “cut Winston now” types should look at their own sins instead of judging.

  7. JMan5 Says:

    Buc believer I hope you don’t have a daughter

  8. OneBucPerson Says:

    The possibility for Winston to perform good far outweighs the possibility of him doing something bad imo, I hope he learns from this incident, picks who he associates with more carefully, and becomes a better man and teammate as a result of this. Would also help his image if he donated to local women’s shelters or services that added sexual assault survivors.

  9. Buc believer Says:

    @Jman5… YOU dont know the facts of what happened and neither do I. He has NOT been convicted of doing anything. If a true 2 time offender like Rothlesburger gets another chance then Jameis deserves no less. Take off your halo it is messing up your hair.

  10. Bob in Valrico Says:

    Thats great Randy is counseling Jameis. This is a perfect example of pay it forward mentaliy. Two athletes trying to help other athletes. Chris Carter who had troubles that almost ended his career helping Randy,and Randy helping Jameis.

  11. BrianBucs Says:

    The key here, like said, is for Winston to surround himself with better people, not the low character Liar’s and alleged rapists like he was with the night of Ubergate. Of course he really has to change his own attitude mostly. As stated in the NFL report, if he violates the league code of conduct policy once more then he is suspended indefinitely and we all know what that means. It’s very dangerous for the Bucs to put all of their eggs in this one basket

  12. ben Says:

    as a season tkt holder …cut Winston now!!

  13. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    JMan5 Says
    “Buc believer I hope you don’t have a daughter”

    Has no bearing on the matter. Do you have a daughter? How old?

    If so, I am sure she is the apple of your eye. If a guy felt her up, what would you do? Assuming she is grown? Hunt him down and teach him a lesson, right?

    That I fully understand. I would do the same.

    But I would not consider it sexual assault.

    Regardless, judging Jameis on the very unlikely chance that he might do something to your daughter is unfair. It would disqualify you from serving on a jury even. Because you cannot judge him for crimes he has not committed.

    And clearly, if he had committed a crime in the case of Kate, charges would have been filed. Heck, she did not even file a civil lawsuit. Why? Certainly, it would have brought any actions he committed to light.

    In fact, it was not Kate who created the story. It was an Internet blog. Joe had to laugh at that one. There’s no story without the driver’s detailed report to Uber.–Joe

    So why? Did Kate not consider that filing charges 2.5 years ago would protect any future potential victims? Nope. Because she knew she had no case. Look, Joe’s not calling anyone guilty, but certainly you realize many crimes of all types, involving men, women and children, don’t get reported for a wide variety of reasons.–Joe

    So if the law does not call it sexual assault, neither should anyone else, regardless of what FSU, Winston media and Bucs haters try to claim. If Winston were guilty of sexual assault, and if there was actual proof, the authorities would have filed charges themselves, since it is a federal crime.

    That is where all those people lose. Accusations are not proof. If there was really proof, the NFL would have suspended him for 6-16 games or even banned him. They would have taken a position of strength. Instead, they negotiated. Why?

    Because they knew they would lose. Show me one other time when they negotiated a suspension that was not already in the appeal process.

    They suspended him for public image. Nothing more.

  14. Buchead5588 Says:

    Love this it’s great support MyQB#3 GoBUCS

  15. Not there yet Says:

    Some of you are really big idiots and extremely thick. I heard of stupid but going the I hope you don’t have a daughter route is a bit much. Keep on talking like it just happened two weeks ago not two years ago. Because so many woman have been assaulted by Winston since getting to Tampa right.

    donate to local women’s shelters or services that added sexual assault survivors……… What same person does that when they are not claiming to be guilty? If you did it or not doesn’t matter but if you are saying you didn’t why do that it would make him look like he’s more guilty than people believe he is. You knuckleheads, there are a lot of self righteous people here that apparently know everything about absolutely nothing

  16. Roy T. Buford Says:

    Amazing how the Jameis apologists continue to talk about no proof, and how Jameis should continue to be the QB of this football team–as if there is no such thing as good player who isn’t also a lyin’ schemer. They still miss the main point that he is hurting his team more than helping them–the NFL concluded he did exactly what was alleged (not really a question), and no way does it make sense a guy who is supposedly innocent and will lose millions of $$ already–would sit idly by. Regardless, the very man being expected to lead this team isn’t allowed around them for a critical part of the season–after trying to deceive the world. The apologists are perhaps the same ones who just weeks ago said Jameis is such a loyal guy to his friends that he refused to name the third guy in the car. Yeah, we know how that turned out, don’t we?

    I think the notion that Jameis isn’t going to get cut is correct only in the sense that they won’t do anything drastic with him now; this “cut” or “parting ways” or “go in a different direction” will be something that happens or doesn’t based on how many things unfold this year. Fan views, therapy outcomes, further incidents, and how things come out on the field. Can he be the face of the franchise? Doubt it. Time will tell.

  17. Robert Says:

    LOL Kobe……I watched the video and was like….man Moss is on point. sound advice, good stuff.

    then I saw the sapp reference opening the article and thought the same thing. lol. warren friggin sapp??? C’MON MAN!!!!

    Sapp was a beast, but I don’t know about him being the right influence for jdub right now.

    just shakin my head man.

    oh, popcorn ready, yesterday was off the chain on here LOL

  18. Robert Says:

    what did I do?

  19. Robert Says:

    not sure why my last post didn’t go through. simply said the video was on point and sapp might not be the best role model at this time.

  20. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    We don’t know for sure exactly what happened…..the NFL doesn’t know….only Jameis & the driver know…..this is likely why it was only 3 games.

    There should be no minimization of the act. It is technically correct to say that it was not sexual assault (in Arizona, it’s called sexual abuse). But nonetheless, it is wrong.

    I am very supportive of any actions Jameis takes to improve his life and put this in the past.

    For those who want him gone, I understand that completely and empathize with your dilemma supporting the team going forward.

    I would propose this: Watch the Chicago game (perhaps Atl) when Jameis returns…..see how you feel then.

  21. Americas Qb Says:

    Buc believer spot on. All these amazing church goers who never sin and judge everyone by their mistakes as if they make none themselves. This is the world we live in. People worry abput everyone else and their problems while in the meantime they have no clue nor do they try to solve their own.

  22. Walter Seidel Says:

    BS…the NFL knows. And that’s why Winston came out and freaking APOLOGIZED to get his sentence reduced from six games to three!!! The sun rises in the east, and to argue it doesn’t is dumb.

  23. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @TBBF…we have been told it was six games dealed down to three…and you are right, WE don’t know, but we do not know that the NFL doesn’t know. And we won’t know, although Jameis knows, or maybe knows. We’ll probably never know. We do know he hurt his team…knowingly.

  24. ndog Says:

    Walter what did apologize for again? I don’t believe we heard him or anyone apologize for touching her so keep your facts straight. Hate him if you want, ask him to be cut if you want (which is a waste to time cause it isn’t happening) but don’t make stuff up. It makes your argument look weaker than it already is. He was very clear he apologized for “putting her in this position” which could mean anything but of course you are going to hear that and think he said I did everything exactly the way it was portrayed because your dislike of him from the jump. You are too bias against him to have an open mind on this subject so just stop talking about it. Having a open mind is how you learn things and get better overall, which are currently showing you are incapable of.

  25. SB Says:

    So Jameis hunts tuna with Sapp!
    That explains it.

  26. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    If the NFL knows for sure….absolute proof….they would not negotiate.

    How could they know for sure…..a video tape or admission from Jameis or eye witnesses…..

    What the NFL knows is that Jameis didn’t report it….and that Jameis tried to cover it up….he was deceitful with the investigation…..there is your 3 games.

  27. Robert Says:

    @ SB

    snapper in the gulf my friend…

    and you always need the right guide when you fish. if you’re fishin for tuna in the gulf, then j dub needs a different guide.

    snapper my friend.

  28. Pete I Says:

    Well America’s Choir Boy need some one to coach him up…mediocre play and way to many turnovers

  29. Pete I Says:

    Well somebody needs to coach America’s Choir Boy, mediocre play and turnovers…

  30. 813bucboi Says:

    win Winston!!!!

    #NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!….#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!!…GO BUCS!!!!

  31. BrianBucs Says:

    TBBF

    You can bet the NFL knows what happened. That is why the Bucs and the Winston camp jumped so hard and quick to negotiate his plea bargain. They did not want the NFL to make public all their findings on Winston during their very thorough investigation. That is why the league’s notification letter to Winston was not made public.
    I’ve worked in mediation for 22 years and negotiated nondisclosure is very common.

  32. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @TBBF…I think the NFL WOULD and DID negotiate…they don’t want the PR issues that the Brady and Zeke issues created. Winston gets suspended is bad for everyone, including the NFL. They would definitely want to avoid the “here we again, more millionaire NFL thugs in trouble” saga. So it’s in their best interest too. And the owners’ interest. At the end of the day, likely Winston’s too–especially. They’d not have levied anything for punishment if they didn’t have the proof…not in today’s litigious world. Yes, they could under the rules, but look past that. Why would they?

    So good for all except inquiring/interested minds…they won’t tell us. Frankly, the public has no real “right” to know the full details–this isn’t public record stuff. We don’t know what recordings, pictures, etc or other “electronic” records they have. Maybe they don’t have anything–but clearly they know enough to keep Winston from challenging–and know enough to conclude about the “inapprorpriate” contract in the specific way it was worded. The did not mention anything about being suspended for lying.

  33. stpetebucsfan Says:

    OK I’m an equal opportunity bi partisan kind of guy. Yesterday I made fun of our Prez for the 6.5 lies per day…today I target a Dem…Bill Clinton.

    And why does he come to mind this morning. Reading Bonzai’s posts!!!! LMAO

    Bonzai….dude you’re getting Clintonesque in your defense…It depends on the meaning of what is…is.

    He grabbed a strange girl in her crotch against her wishes. Thankfully when she was upset and told him to stop he did.

    Bonzai…use your noggin man. Do you know what happens to women who file sexual charges of ANY kind whatever legal term you wish against a celebrity? They are immediately excoriated and shamed! Fans attack them.

    Here is what has literally happened to Kate since her allegations. A significant number of posters here who have NEVER met her….were NOT there that night…who know nothing about the actual events…immediately jump on here and start calling her a cleat chaser, gold digger any number of disgusting insults….and why? Did they actually KNOW anything. NO…but what is the price for typing a lurid insult of a woman you’ve never met.

    I don’t care what you call it…in case there is any doubt it’s not permissible to grab a stranger by their genitals…PERIOD…even if you stop when the beotch about it.

    So imagine this…Bonzai is out for an evening and a strange gay dude who finds Bonzai attractive reaches out to feel up his package. Bonzai of course being straight immediately screams for him to stop…and he does. So that is OK Bonzai…or would you punch him in the mouth? Kate never had the option of punching Jameis in the mouth which of course is what he deserved.

  34. BrianBucs Says:

    Bonzai

    Are you off of your meds again brother? Lol

  35. stpetebucsfan Says:

    TBBF

    I have to agree with Brian on this one. The entire night was sordid…Jameis “allegedly” yelling out homophobic screams from the vehicle…who really knows what kind of behavior he was exhibiting at the club at 3AM…drunk on his butt perhaps also fueled with Molly…Ecstasy or some party drug.

    The NFL…the Bucs…and Jameis did have one common interest. None of these entities really care what happened of if Kate got groped…it’s just business…ALL they care about is the PR and the resulting damage to their businesses and career going forward.

    When you separate that out you realize why a negotiated non disclosure agreement was clearly the way to go to minimize PR disaster.

    Let’s hope the Bucs didn’t have Michael Cohen negotiating their end of the non disclosure. LOL

  36. Walter Seidel Says:

    NDOG….bad idea to question my capabilities. Stick to the issue, which isn’t me and certainly isn’t you. It’s Winston. And he apologized. Period. And yes, I was against drafting him….April 30, 2015 was a dark day for this franchise, and approximately half the Bucs fans were in agreement. The fan base was split in half, and still is. Grave mistake by Licht and the Glazers. Yes, I was against drafting him because EVERYONE KNEW his past. You can defend it. You can deny it. But we all know it. So go ahead, and defend this a-hole again. Your side of the fan base feels the need to whitewash his long lurid past. Not to mention he kinda sucks as a QB (which is irrelevant now). Wear that number 3 jersey proudly. It says a lot about the person wearing it.

  37. DB55 Says:

    Two things:

    1. I think it would be helpful if some of youz went back and read her statement. “Grazed his fingers over my pants” “it was only for a very brief moment”. “What’s up with that?”, “the rest of the ride proceeded without incident”. Just for clarity bc reading some of these people’s posts you’d think he did something much different.

    2. I love that Randy Moss is working with Jaboo bc he too almost had his hof career derailed after a white girl in the Deep South. The more things change and what not…. he also got arrested for beating the crap out of a kid who wrote the n word on his desk at school. Lol, well deserved imo. But yea the state of West Virginia found him guilt of 2 felony charges for a high school fight. I think this quote resonates here in Tampa too.

    -I think I made little mistakes that the state of West Virginia blew out of proportion,” Moss said. “They never did care for me. I think once I decided not to go to the University of West Virginia, they took advantage of every slip-up to try to hold me back. But I come from a strong family and I didn’t feel nothing could stop the Moss family.- R.Moss

    Muhammad Ali called and said You can’t stop greatness no matter how hard you try.

  38. BrianBucs Says:

    DB55

    Get back to reality. A 3-5 second grab is not a graze.

  39. The Buc Realist Says:

    Some are asking jw3 to change on and off the field, they want him to change so much, that it might just be easier to fine the “right” guy!!!!!!!!!!

    Draft picks only set the team back for years, when it is not working and they keep trying to make if work of “fix it” for year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. BrianBucs Says:

    DB55

    Get back to reality. A 3-5 second grab is not a graze. It’s a grope

  41. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @DB55…you can’t have your own facts….

    Some of Kate’s words. And BTW, while not there, even “grazed” is inappropriate….

    Waiting in line at the drive-thru of Los Betos Mexican Food, “he reached over and he just grabbed my crotch,” Kate said, alleging that Winston held his hand there for three to five seconds and removed it only after she looked up in shock and said, “What’s up with that?”

    “I wasn’t just creeped out,” said Kate, who had been driving with Uber for more than two years at that point. (She no longer drives for the service.) “I was frozen.” She described Winston as “very physically imposing.”

    “I mean he’s an NFL quarterback and I’m 5 ft 6. I’m not prepared for that. So I completely froze,” she said, worried that she might provoke an unwanted reaction.

  42. Howard Cosell Says:

    Haters say:
    “Ain’t no help for that boy! Junior….get the rope and saddle the horses!”

  43. Pickgrin Says:

    Walter Seidel Says:
    “yes, I was against drafting him”

    Really? I never would have guessed…

    “I was against drafting him because EVERYONE KNEW his past. You can defend it. You can deny it. But we all know it.”

    And THAT right there is why you and all the other Jameis haters have felt so emboldened to constantly slander young Winston from behind the safety of your anonymous keyboards over the last 3 weeks.

    Not because he participated in a BB Gun war with his friends 6 years ago. Not because he got a crab legs hook up at Publix like many of his teammates. Not because he yelled out an internet meme – FHRITP on campus.

    You and Brian and Pete and Roy and JMan and Robert and ben and meh and another handful or two of true Winston HATERS – an incredibly vocal minority – feel emboldened enough by the Winston suspension to spew hateful, judgmental, slanderous talk about young Jameis day after day here on jbf comments – because you are SOOOO sure that he ra_ped Erica Kinsman.

    Maybe if any of you had ever bothered to actually research the facts from what happened that night in Tallahassee almost 6 years ago – instead of taking the lazy route and just believing the character assassinating NY TIMES story and subsequent media circus that resulted – you would not be so quick to believe that Winston is lower than pond scum and somehow deserves your constant slanderous keyboard attacks now that the NFL has so successfully “protected the shield” by managing to suspend Jameis Winston over something for which there is no proof whatsoever….

  44. DB55 Says:

    Roy T

    You really are a good ol boy aren’t you? You are quoting the article, I’m quoting her text to her friend and her message to Uber. I’m qouting her exact written words not the words of a reporter which I’m positive outside of this topic you’d believe is all fake news.

    She never stated he “grabbed” her, not to Uber or to her friend. Check your facts dummy. “Touched”, “grazed” but never stated he grabbed her.

    There’s a difference, one could accidentally graze a women’s chest in passing but that’s not the same as grabbing a women’s chest. All I’m saying is Kate was explicit in stating it was not accidental which I’m sure jw is saying it was a complete accident. But wtf dik? All I know is that her written complaint to Uber and her text to her friend are both posted on the buzzfeed article. Her exact words.

    You use whatever you want but that’s probably why your facts are all bad

  45. DB55 Says:

    And that’s why you have people saying she changed her story after getting a call from the cleatchasers lawyer. The one who lost and is obviously salty.

    Look at the original buzzfeed article, there are 2 screenshots. 1 with her comments to Uber and the other is a text to her friend. If her testimony has changed since then, then we have a different issue altogether.

  46. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    hallelujah…

    Pilgrim…I agree with you bc the writing is on the wall!

    Howard
    Ain’t no help for that boy! Junior….get the rope and saddle the horses!”

    These are the same people who phone into the cops the black person is sitting in Starbucks, or eating in Waffle House or hiding behind the bushes next door and phone into the cops the little black girl is selling lemonade, and on and on

    It’s those who hate different and JW is 6’4″ , and different …he eats W’s and fon’t appear to let this mud slinging affect him…he is uppity ans different…bc he accepted crab legs as a teen…which is called the “hook up” and shot a bb gun…and drinked ketchup out of a condiment cup…and accepted sex from a whie girl…who later said he took it…so historical

    Give me a friggin break!

  47. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    DB55
    “FACTS are AWESOME”🤗

  48. mark2001 Says:

    Sad…Moss said Jameis did something wrong…that Jameis admitted he did something wrong…if you watch the video that Joe linked. But some of you still don’t get it, and are acting like it was some kind of fairy tale concoction with a bad ending. It would be much better for you all if you would watch Jameis example in this… Admit he did something very wrong…and in his case, make sure it never happens again or that you are alone with a woman in a position where such an accusation can grow legs.

    BTW…I’m not saying cut Jameis… Yes, improve the backup position “just in case”. But really guys…. if Jameis can admit it, why can’t we?

  49. DB55 Says:

    Mark

    Very reasonable argue. I just think there’s a reason why jw fired his agent. I’m sure he was told to accept the suspension as it would be in his best interest.

    But whatever, no problem with your position I just can’t allow people to create their own narrative and crucify this kid due to their own deep seeded issues.

  50. Walter Seidel Says:

    Thank you mark2001 !!!

  51. Robert Says:

    joe,

    obviously this is your site, but why am I seeing one poster continually taking this JW subject off topic and divisive… seemingly without recourse.

    just curious

  52. Bucsfanman Says:

    Jameis is going to get his chance, and he WILL play as a Buc this season. His PRODUCTION will dictate his future as a Buc starter.
    I’m positive that any additional off-field issues will make that statement moot.

    He’s being punished 3 games, move on. He will start in week #4.

  53. Nole4JabooANDdBucs Says:

    No…it’s called people speak he is not a lawyer…it doesn’t matter if true or not perception and the NFL has ruled he was wrong…bc a woman was involved

    “He’s doing things right,” Moss said. “It’s a bump in the road. . . . Man, just continue to fight. It happens. . . . What he did was wrong. You know, I’m not saying right or wrong. There was a woman involved. So I’m not going to get into all of that. What he did was wrong. He knows it was wrong. So, I think it’s up to him as a man to understand what he did wrong, live and learn from it and let it go.

  54. Roy T. Buford Says:

    @DB55…the NFL says he did it, and that’s the facts…he’s suspended. He lied. You can’t twist the facts dude. You can’t make it up as you go. Have a nice day!

  55. 1sparkybuc Says:

    It appears many here believe in “ guilty until proven innocent “. Circumstantial evidence and outright fabrication is not acceptable grounds to convict anybody for anything . Jameis is still our QB, for now, and for the future. That’s not going to change until the Bucs find a better option in another ten or fifteen years.

  56. I Bleed Pewter Says:

    GREAT ..two deviants hanging out. What could possibly go wrong? I wonder what kind of advice of wisdom Sapp shared?

    Sapp’s shared wisdom, just deny ..deny ..deny

  57. Pete I Says:

    People are convicted all the time on circumstantial evidence. Convicted and sentenced. And he is guilty as far as the NFL is concerned , and he had his chance to prove his innocence and all he did was show that he did do it and lied about it as well.

    And he wasn’t blind drunk, he didn’t tell the truth.

  58. Buccfan37 Says:

    Maybe she was wearing corduroy jeans or shorts and Jameis had itchy fingers and without thinking clearly for a split second went to scratch them on that ridged surface. That makes about as much sense as he grabbed, groped, glazed, gripped or glimpsed an opening move.

  59. Capt.Tim Says:

    Lmao
    The NFL has labeled Winston a sex offender
    And he agreed to it

    The NFL doesnt forbid a layer from defending himself in court. If this was a case of he said/She said , Winstons lawyers could have filed slander charges- and easily exonerated himself from disciplinary action
    But he didnt.
    He accepted the NFL’s discilinary action.

    By Accepting the NFL’s findings, Jameis wil lose tens of Millions of dollars in contract and sponsorship money.
    But he didnt fight it.
    He agreed to accept the NFL’s findings and decision.

    Still dont think the NFL investigation didnt find any thing? Lol
    And way to go, Db55, or defending every scumbag that comes down the pike.
    Hope that arent more people like you, that glorify lawlessness, drug use, and violence against woman.
    But I bet there are!! Lol

  60. pryda30_sec147 Says:

    I love Jameis He is going to be great ! Believe that!

  61. SB Says:

    Lol Robert. I am aware of the fishing there. I was saying ‘Tuna’ because it is common slang for a woman’s vagina. Snapper is not that common of a vernacular.

  62. BuccoDav Says:

    Isn’t anyone else concerned that Derrick “freakin'” Brooks’ counsel was not enough to keep him out of trouble but Randy Moss is the new guru?
    Here’s to hoping Randy learned enough to teach.

  63. gp Says:

    Capt.Tim Says:
    July 11th, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    Lmao
    The NFL has labeled Winston a sex offender
    And he agreed to it

    The NFL doesnt forbid a layer from defending himself in court. If this was a case of he said/She said , Winstons lawyers could have filed slander charges- and easily exonerated himself from disciplinary action
    But he didnt.
    He accepted the NFL’s discilinary action.

    By Accepting the NFL’s findings, Jameis wil lose tens of Millions of dollars in contract and sponsorship money.
    But he didnt fight it.
    He agreed to accept the NFL’s findings and decision.

    Still dont think the NFL investigation didnt find any thing? Lol
    And way to go, Db55, or defending every scumbag that comes down the pike.
    Hope that arent more people like you, that glorify lawlessness, drug use, and violence against woman.
    But I bet there are!! Lol

    Apparently you haven’t thought this out

    When accused of a crime a person is assumed innocent until proven guilty
    That person does not need to prove his innocence, the prosecutor has to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
    The NFL does not have that restriction, but they ARE sensitive to public opinion and currently, public opinion is favoring the me too crowd

    If, after 9 months of investigation, the NFL had any proof of the deed, they would have given him the minimum penalty of 6 weeks suspension or more

    Once the suspension is levied, JW can either accept or appeal
    If he appeals he now has the burden of proof

    Have you ever tried to prove a negative?

    Regardless of weather he did it or not, with no proof for either sides story, The NFL did the “politically correct” thing and went for the 3 weeks plus prepared “apology” that admitted to nothing

    And we will NEVER know

    And I still wouldn’t want to go fishing with you

  64. BigMacAttack Says:

    Moss is giving sound advice. They need to listen up. I give Jameis props for going to workout with them. Keep on trucking Jameis, that’s all you can do. The past is gone but the future is in your hands. I’m pulling for Jameis and want him to realize his dreams.

  65. webster Says:

    @ db55 and other posters like you ie ndog etc

    Why are you caring about the opinions of sheep?

  66. Capt.Tim Says:

    GP-
    Jameis and his legal team could have filed slander charges. Then Went to Court, forcing the Uber driver to prove Sexual assault.

    Good luck, if its just her word against his.

    Jameis didnt want to fight for his innocence, which cost him around 100 million dollars.
    Because it wasnt just her word

    Obviously, you didnt think it out.

    The NFL has no interest in enforcing the Law!!!
    There interest is in protecting the brand- and preventing Boneheads from costing them viewers.
    They paid the driver- and she agreed not to pursue any charges.
    Jameis agreed to Therapy, Apologizing, and not appealing the Suspension.
    The NFL agreed to releasing damning evidence
    Releasing Absolute proof would prevent ignorant apologist from making excuses for winston.
    And at this point- that would ruin winston, plus give the league a black eye

  67. Capt.Tim Says:

    “Agreed to NOT releasing damning evidence” *

  68. SOEbuc Says:

    Capt. Tim

    “The NFL has no interest in enforcing the Law!!!
    There interest is in protecting the brand- and preventing Boneheads from costing them viewers.
    They paid the driver- and she agreed not to pursue any charges.
    Jameis agreed to Therapy, Apologizing, and not appealing the Suspension.”

    Same thing at FSU. They pay these girls off for them not to press charges and stop talking.

    Guarantee if this was Tom Brady that Goodell would be ringing the Uber drivers door the night it happened with a gigantic stack of cash.

  69. SOEbuc Says:

    Jameis needs to stop hanging around these HOF GIGANTIC A$$HOLES and maybe he can learn to better himself.

 

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