Fifth Year For Jameis
April 17th, 2018
Cha-ching!
The haters are having a bad day, and that’s before they paid Uncle Sam.
Per Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, the Bucs have agreed to pick up the fifth-year option on the contract of America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston.
That means Jameis will pocket some $20.9 million in 2019, per Stroud. However, Jameis does have to be on the 2019 roster to earn the money. It’s not guaranteed.
That should help Jameis pay for a few boxes of diapers.
For those who were hoping the Bucs would trade or cut Jameis, well, Joe will offer some encouraging words. Joe understands Tennessee is welcoming additional fans.
April 17th, 2018 at 10:47 am
Its quite possible if we see no improvement in Jameis this year..he might have missed his calling…as a preacher!!
April 17th, 2018 at 10:47 am
I wonder how long before some will say that this makes him more “tradeable”
April 17th, 2018 at 10:48 am
At least next year’s GM and coach can have a year to decide if Jameis is worth the big Staffordtype contract, or if he’s more the Bortlestype contract
April 17th, 2018 at 10:48 am
no brainer!!!!!!!….if dirk cant get it done, he’s outta here!!!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 10:53 am
Jaboo game the Bucs a discount of 4 milly
If Derek Carr gets 25 mil, dont know why JW couldnt match that
*I guess playing 8 games at home and not paying state tax evens that number
April 17th, 2018 at 10:53 am
Well deserved! Get it Jaboo
April 17th, 2018 at 10:56 am
JW haters are on suicide watch …… officially
April 17th, 2018 at 10:59 am
…and if Winston has a poor year, i.e. suspension, poor play, then what? When it came to Josh Freeman it was all about his win/loss record, but for Winston it’s seems it don’t matter. I hope for our sake he has a terrific year but I think I would have waited to sign him to that 5th year option. There was no reason we could’ve not waited. In fact it may have worked like a carrot, an incentive for him to earn that option.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:00 am
Kobe, Winston didn’t give a discount to the Bucs. It’s the 5th year option, not a contract extension.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:00 am
They must be confident in no suspension.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:03 am
ok, thanks for the correction
April 17th, 2018 at 11:03 am
Definitely deserved, Garapolo got 30 mil a yr after just 7 starts. Worse case I see Jameis getting tagged his 6th year if they decide they want 2 yrs to evaluate him under a new coach next season. He’s not playing bad as bad as people make it seem but he’s just not good enough to cover up all the holes on the team.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:08 am
Good news. Those that want him gone are not Bucs fans, they’re something else that oozes hate.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:10 am
Jameis is THE BEST QB the Buccaneers have ever had.
Licht is smart to pick up his 5th year, because that guarantees 5-10 million less that 5th year than if they entered negotiations after this year.
Also, if this year is better than last, one can only assume Jameis will also play better.
Which letting him hit the free agent market may command Licht and the glazers to match a huge offer from a QB hungry team who just can’t draft a good signal caller.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:12 am
Slightly off topic but doesn’t the “jock tax” mean that the Bucs players (and personel) have to pay taxes when they travel on road games to the tax happy cities and states? I’m not going to lose any sleep over this injustice but I still think it’s kinda messed up. Only reason I say is because Kobe bought up not having to pay State Income taxes in Florida.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:16 am
Still not enough to pay for diapers.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:18 am
Not even a question. It is the cost of doing business in the NFL with a young QB that is considered your future starter for the next 10 years. That said, his game has to step up and the off the field troubles have to stop. Next decision on the long term contract will have a lot to do with the upcoming season’s body of work. As we saw last year, you don’t necessarily need a number 1 draft pick to lead a team to the playoffs and beyond.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:21 am
This is good because it takes the distraction of a contract off the table this year. Now, he can focus on honing his craft. He still has to prove that he can be an elite QB and I think he almost has to, given the weapons he has.
It’s a “no-brainer” on many counts!
April 17th, 2018 at 11:28 am
Espo Says:
April 17th, 2018 at 11:16 am
Still not enough to pay for diapers.
LMAO……I know that’s right!!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 11:36 am
Good timing by Licht. And he makes JW very happy and hopefully that translates into great play.
However, if JW doesn’t improve it leaves a couple options open to move on if need be.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:41 am
The only fear of the Glazers of losing JW is the lack of winning and the playoffs
The odds are we will have less than 6 wins and not make the playoffs this coming season …again
If we continuously lose the next 3 years and not reach the playoffs,…JW will probably want out
**Kobe has stated many times, If we see a Mariotas team or a younger QB in JWs age win a superbowel…..JW will get demanding and vocal
April 17th, 2018 at 11:41 am
As I’ve maintained since Day 1 … when it comes time to sign an extension, the Bucs (or many other teams if it comes to that) will offer Jameis the richest contract in the history of football … he may offer the Bucs a hometown discount but outside of that, he will receive the richest contract ever imho.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:42 am
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Look, I have *never* been a Jameis hater but consider me a little surprised the Bucs did this now. I think it’s great news, I’m just surprised with the Uber Investigation still in the works they made the decision. Good for him, good for the organization, good for Tampa Bay!
April 17th, 2018 at 11:51 am
ughhh no words just more yuck from this overmatched team and coaches.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:51 am
This is a feel good story and nothing more. I’m happy that it appears as if #3 just guaranteed another 20 million dollars to his earnings. Perhaps simply seeing it in print will make him happy.
But the reality is that nothing has changed. Why wouldn’t the Buc’s do this?
It’s not guaranteed!!!
I suspect any suspension gets the Bucs off the hook…IF they want to be.
IMHO if #3 is suspended but plays well the rest of the year the Bucs will honor the deal. I DO hope however they bring him in and explain life as a very wealthy famous young man. Never party alone. Always take a bodyguard both for protection…a sober head in the crowd…and as a WITNESS!!!! Choose your friends carefully!!! And hopefully his new “baby mama” is actually more and is truly a “significant other” no matter what their relationship is called. I just hope he feels a deep sense of loyalty to her that keeps him on the straight and narrow. I have no doubt how many times I would have sewn some more wild oats if it wasn’t for the fact that I love my wife and simply wouldn’t do that to her.
April 17th, 2018 at 11:56 am
The NFL still has an open investigation going on Winston. It worries me that the NFL has had this investigation open for this long and has not made any statements. If he was found to be 100% innocent wouldn’t the NFL want to let us know?
Joe – can you please give us any and all information you have regarding Winston’s “Uber incident” investigation. This might have a HUGE impact on the season and our future.
April 17th, 2018 at 12:10 pm
Joe insists in calling someone that does not agree with his assessment, haters.
To Joe, Russia did that except suggesting there is Tennessee, it was shuttle to Siberia.
Some of us look at the ability to win and suggest that JW is only average. If you think that paying someone 20 to 25 million is average pay, I am willing to work for below average.
April 17th, 2018 at 12:12 pm
StPete, you just can’t get this Uber deal out of your head. Did you believe Kinsman more than Jameis? And do you believe this Uber driver more than Jameis? Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt, and not him? Move on. You haven’t written one post without mentioning the upcoming suspension that will never come. Try giving the kid a break. Lord knows the media never will. They’re entrenched in the lie, and hope something devious happens to move their falsehoods forward. Believe what you see, not what your told to believe.
April 17th, 2018 at 12:15 pm
JW haters eating a L this morning 😂😂😂
April 17th, 2018 at 12:15 pm
To FiretheGlazers : I believe Brad Johnson(SB Ring) and Doug Williams( SB Ring) are currently above JW on the list of all time Buc QB’s. Stats are fun to look at , but at the end of the day , it is titles that folks really want. Williams especially , he carried the offense for 5 years and 3 playoff appearances.
April 17th, 2018 at 12:23 pm
Just to clarify -I am a huge fan of Winston. I hope he is our QB for a long time and wins multiple Super Bowls.
But in the military they teach you to analyze your threats and opportunities. I see this ongoing NFL investigation as a major threat. I am NOT a “hater”. I believe we are being fools and burying our heads in the sand if we don’t get real and look at reality.
April 17th, 2018 at 12:24 pm
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In regards to the “investigation” … ESPN’S Jenna Laine confirmed the NFL has not even talked to Jameis once about the alleged Uber incident.
Why you ask?
The answer is simple imho.
The NFL hasn’t even spoken to Jameis or even Ronald Darby because since it happened over 2 years ago, (a) no police report was ever filed against Jameis, (b) no civil case was ever filed against Winston and now the statute of limitations have passed, and (c) the NFL has received no “proof” from the accuser’s lawyer whatsoever that Jameis did anything wrong. Therefore, there is no reason for the NFL to even speak to Jameis or Darby, as there is no case at all, just an unsubstantiated accusation as legitimate as if next week a waitress says that Mike Evans failed to tip her and when she said, “What’s up with that”, he took his sunglasses off and revealed he had snake eyes and is a reptilian.
I honestly think at some point in the future the NFL will release a statement that says, “After an extensive investigation we were able to conclude the accusations against Mr. Winston were entirely unsubstantiated.”
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April 17th, 2018 at 12:31 pm
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I mean, come on people … if there was even a shred of evidence, even bad evidence that was up for debate, the accuser’s lawyer still would have filed a civil case against Jameis and tried to grab some cash … yet instead, the lawyer let the statute of limitations pass without even simply file a civil case.
THAT tells me the accuser has literally ZERO EVIDENCE of any kind.
In that case, there is no reason for the NFL to ever even speak to Jameis or Darby.
It’s the same with any Police investigation as well … try to call up the Police and just make an unsubstantiated accusation against someone … they might “open a file” but before they actually start calling people and doing any real work, they’re going to want to see some proof of something.
Anyone can accuse anyone of anything at anytime … it means nothing with proof, and it seems completely obvious that the Uber driver has no proof of any kind, not even refutable “proof” or else her lawyer would have, at the very least, filed a mere civil suit.
This has ALWAYS been a NON-ISSUE as I’ve maintained from the beginning.
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April 17th, 2018 at 12:39 pm
@ Nut – I appreciate your input. I have a few questions. Why hasn’t the NFL come out to the public and make a statement that they have cleared Winston of any wrong doing? What are they waiting for? If you were commissioner wouldn’t you want to “clear the air” around one of your up and coming stars? Is there not still an open investigation into this matter? Am I wrong?
April 17th, 2018 at 12:39 pm
There are 15 or so QBs making $20mill or more for the 2018 season. The 2019 league year doesn’t start till March 2019 – the Bucs have plenty of time to change their mind.
Go Bucs!
April 17th, 2018 at 12:48 pm
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MARINE BUC,
That’s a solid question, but again, I believe the answer is a simple one.
This is all about optics and public perception. The NFL needed to wait for the civil statute of limitations to expire, and it just recently expired, and also needs to wait an appropriate amount of time to make it appear that there was a real investigation. This isn’t about Jameis or the Bucs or the fans, or even the accuser to the NFL; it’s merely about “protecting the shield” and waiting a solid length of time before revealing Jameis has been cleared is what’s best for the brand, so to speak.
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April 17th, 2018 at 12:53 pm
@StPete … “This is a feel good story and nothing more.” Couldn’t agree more StPete. NOTHING is guaranteed in the NFL (ask Doug Martin).
I love Jameis & consider that I’m the farthest thing there is from being a ‘Jameis-hater’ (dumb term BTW). But folks need to get a grip on their expectations … he’s not ‘America’s QB’ and he’s not the second coming of our Lord. He’s a 23-year-old with 3 yrs of NFL experience now & he’s got a lot of improving to do. Fortunately he’s got some great skills to work with.
Previous JBF article talked about Bucs using the last 4 games (after Jameis returned from his injury talked about how Jameis & the Bucs finished strong. Horsepuckey … we went 1-3 to end the season. Admittedly those 3 losses were all ONLY by 3 pts each, but they were STILL LOSSES (this isn’t horse-shoes). Now take a close look at each game that Jameis QB’d:
o Lions (we lost 24-21). Bucs had FIVE (5) turnovers; Jameis had 3 of those (2 INTs & 1 fumble lost). Plus he was sacked 3 times.
o Falcons (we lost 24-21). Bucs had ONE (1) turnover; Jameis had that 1 (a fumble lost). Plus he was sacked 2 times.
o Panthers (we lost 22-19). Bucs had THREE (3) turnovers; Jameis had all 3 (all 3 fumbles lost). Plus SIX sacks.
o Saints (we won 31-24). Bucs had THREE (3) turnovers; Jameis had all 3 (all 3 were INTs but no fumbles in that game). Plus he was sacked 2 times.
So in 4 games (1-3 record) Bucs had TWELVE (12) turnovers, and Jameis was responsible for TEN (10) of those turnovers, plus he was sacked 13 times in those 4 games.
THAT’S not the kind of performance the Bucs need to be building on. TURNOVERS KILLED US last year. And as much as I love Jameis, he’s accountable for it (not the coaches), and he HAS TO clean that up. You don’t make the playoffs consistently with that type of performance on the field.
By way of comparison, Fitz started the 3 games prior to those last 4 that Jameis started. Bucs went 2-1 (we beat Jets & Dolphins but lost to Falcons). In those THREE games, Fitz had ONE turnover (1 INT, 0 fumbles lost). Pretty much the same supporting cast, but a huge difference in terms of QB accountability.
IF Jameis continues on this year where he left off last year, I seriously doubt there’ll be a sixth year. He’s got all the skills in the world, but if he doesn’t clean up the turnover issue, it won’t matter one bit. I’m pulling for him big-time, but only he can fix that problem.
April 17th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Agree with all of you that say this a packaged bag of air. The haters and conspiracy theorists always say, “ where there’s smoke there’s fire.” In this case, even that redundant credo cannot be substantiated. If we read and believe the same reports as the NFL, one would be hard pressed to find a warm ember, much less a smoking one.
April 17th, 2018 at 12:56 pm
“Haters having a bad da”y??? What Haters??? you think everyone who doesn’t agree with you are haters. I can go down the list over the last few years of everyone you call haters but it would take me to long .. What does that make everyone else Lovers??LOL . I guess what ever works to get $$$ money in your pocket, right Joe?? Enjoy!
April 17th, 2018 at 12:58 pm
@ Nut – I understand that viewpoint 100%. I am still concerned the NFL has not come out and publicly clear Winston. In my opinion clearing Winston sooner rather than later would be better for the NFL but this is what I have come to expect from the current commissioner.
All I am saying is I still view this as a threat until I hear the NFL publicly clear him of all wrong doing. Until then it is still an open investigation at this point.
It will say something if we use that #7 pick on a QB.
April 17th, 2018 at 1:03 pm
Hes never had a deep ball, and He’s never had a pocket to throw in. But now he has deep pockets!!
April 17th, 2018 at 1:18 pm
stpete
where’s all that “optimism” you had earlier?…..lol….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
Gilhealy
Can you read? Why do you fill up a post with total lies or misinformation.
“you just can’t get this Uber deal out of your head. Did you believe Kinsman more than Jameis? And do you believe this Uber driver more than Jameis? Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt, and not him? Move on. You haven’t written one post without mentioning the upcoming suspension that will never come. Try giving the kid a break.”
WTF does Kinsman have to do with the UBER story. They are TOTALLY different accusations. One has been handled the other is still hanging over #3…the team and the fans whether YOU like it or not.
I have never staked out a position as believing either #3 or the UBER driver!!!
I was not there and unlike you I do not have the gift of bi-location so that I could ABSOLUTELY determine who is telling the truth. But you were there and so you are CERTAIN!
Furthermore neither I nor any other poster who wants this to simply end or is curious about any of it are contributing to the situation. #3 will be cleared or suspended regardless of what ANY of us post here. We are irrelevant in this discussion…we are just sharing our opinions.
People who actually read this blog and my posts in particular can attest to the fact that I am a Jameis supporter. I’ve always stood by him against the detractors of his on field play. I can watch that. I cannot watch his off field adventures so I know NOTHING about Arizona…Tallahassee…Tampa or anywhere else.
I do not START these threads on the possible suspension. I do participate in them and I’m an honest open minded person. If I do NOT know what happened unlike you I do not pretend that I do know.
I’m already on the record as saying it’s time for the league to move on. At this point it’s no longer about his guilt or innocence it’s about what can be proven.
While I hope you are correct…if you’re not…you don’t have to worry about me coming on here all emotional and saying see Gilhealy you were wrong. That would not give me satisfaction because that’s not how I roll.
I HOPE Jameis is innocent. I HOPE he does not get suspended. But again I was not there…I have NO idea of what really happened. Furthermore I’m not connected at all with the NFL office and so I have NO idea what they’re going to do. I’ve speculated with others on these threads but anybody here who claims to KNOW all of these facts loses credibility with me unless they can PROVE HOW they know it and back it up.
Does this make me a bad person for simply stating FACTS!
April 17th, 2018 at 1:29 pm
That comes out to roughly $900k per turnover!
I guess this means no QB at 7. Just busting your chops FSU homers;)
Cam became Superman and led the Panthers to the SB in his 5 year!
I hope Jameis proves worthy of every nickel!
April 17th, 2018 at 1:31 pm
Defense Rules,
Fumbles are NOT all on the QB … they can be on the center in a snap and on the line in any case.
Also, I’m pretty sure there is a huge difference between playing the Jets and Dolphins as Fitz did and the Panthers, Falcons, Lions and Saints as Jameis did in your comparison.
I honestly wanted the Bucs to tank the Jets and Dolphins games … we’d have the #3 pick right now had they done that!
April 17th, 2018 at 1:32 pm
MARINE BUC,
I hear you … but … there is about a .00000000000000000001% chance the Bucs would draft a QB at #7, even if Jameis was already suspended for the full 6 games.
April 17th, 2018 at 1:34 pm
regarding Winston, its hard to say…..he may have to sit…..he may not…..
all I know is this staff has had PLENTY of time to prepare for this situation and form a game plan for worst case scenario…..
much like when kwon was suspended….the staff knew about the situation during TC….they werent able to use that as an excuse to lose 4 straight….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 1:36 pm
BringBucsBack,
Cam Newton has had one very good year out of seven … Jameis has been superior to him for the past two years.
April 17th, 2018 at 1:41 pm
NUT
but he’s went to the playoffs 4 of those seasons…..just saying….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 1:42 pm
Like Kobe has stated before
the elephant (elevator) in the room…
is Attorney John Clune
John Clune is a attention (loose women) attorney that wants to peg the NFL as much as JW
NFL is waiting out to see if Clune has any evidence to hurt the NFL and its coming ruling
*Seems Clune doesnt have to much influence or willing accuser with the uber girl. Seems she doesnt want to pursue this matter at all. Like NFL nutt stated, the limitations to sue has ended….
NFL will be releasing their – no credible evidence to pursue this JW matter ruling anyday now
April 17th, 2018 at 1:53 pm
@Defense Rules- I was trying to make the same argument a few days ago and got torched. In a nutshell, if he doesn’t improve alongside everyone else we will not be winning too many games.
He’s a “good”, albeit turnover prone QB with potential.
April 17th, 2018 at 1:54 pm
I agree with Nut on the “investigation”. I don’t think there’s anything there.
April 17th, 2018 at 1:57 pm
Seems like they did this to avoid being locked in to an extension.
April 17th, 2018 at 1:58 pm
Just increases how long it will take for Bucs to sniff a SB ring
April 17th, 2018 at 1:59 pm
Defense Rules
All very good reasons to pick Jensen @ 7
April 17th, 2018 at 2:05 pm
Best case scenario for this team is he plays out of his mind and ends up getting paid top quarterback money because it means this team went deep into the playoffs
April 17th, 2018 at 2:19 pm
Lets see if he can take the next step and be a tier above the Andy Dalton class of starting QBs.
April 17th, 2018 at 2:20 pm
@NFLNut … “I honestly wanted the Bucs to tank the Jets and Dolphins games … we’d have the #3 pick right now had they done that!” The other points I can agree with you on Nut, but not that one. I EXPECT the teams I root for to win EVERY game, and I’m disappointed if they don’t. Give me a choice & I’d pick #32 every year.
@gp … “All very good reasons to pick Jensen @ 7.” Uhhh, we’ve already signed Ryan Jensen as our Center gp (and that’s probably my favorite pickup this year BTW). Now if you mean Nelson (LG) or Barkley (RB) I’d agree. Even Hernandez (I like him a lot). All 3 of those could help this offense (and thus Jameis) a bunch.
@Bucsfanman … “I was trying to make the same argument a few days ago and got torched.” LOL (I expected the same BTW). We both appreciate what Jameis brings to the table, but a QB turning the ball over 10 times in 4 games is a prescription for losing. And Jameis is better than that. I agree with NFLNut that sometimes it’s on the center (snap) or poor OLine play or lousy pass protection, but come on … 10 times in 4 games. Jameis led the NFL last year in fumbles lost. Sorry, that’s not a stat I want my QB to own.
April 17th, 2018 at 2:26 pm
Well duh. The guy is already the best QB in team history and even coming off a year lost to injury lead the Bucs to their highest passing yards ranking in team history.
April 17th, 2018 at 2:30 pm
@ 813
Cam has had a great defense, running game and pretty good kicker those 4 years “he” has gone to the playoffs. I see you still havent learned that it takes a team to win.
April 17th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
@ j
Wtf are you talking about? Every good 1st round player gets their 5th year option picked up ala mike evans ie gerald mccoy etc. That is what teams do. I cant believe how clueless this fan base is. The deadline for the bucs and all nfl teams to pick up the 5th year option is may 2nd. It has nothing to do with avoiding being locked into an extension. This 5th year option was a part of the original contract. Educate yourselves
April 17th, 2018 at 3:06 pm
@webster- It’s a solid business move from every standpoint. If he was really bad, it wouldn’t even be a conversation. It also takes pressure off of Jameis so he can concentrate on getting better and getting ready for this season.
April 17th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
Webster
so its cam’s fault his GM surrounded him with a good defense…..its cam’s fault his HC has a ground and pound philosophy…….its cams fault the GM pick picked a good kicker……huh….ok….poor cam….
I guess I could’ve said, cam has lead “his” team to the playoffs…..but I didn’t say anything that made it seem like cam did it by himself…..are you suggesting matt moore could’ve lead them to the playoffs?…..
all I said was that cam has been to the playoffs in 4 of the 7 seasons he’s been a panther…..whats wrong with that?…..is that not a fact?…..he has been to the playoffs right?……
I see your still a silly rabbit……pull your shirk down…..your tmax is showing…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!!…..GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 3:14 pm
Bucfanman
Yes it is. It means you can have said player for just under market value for a top player at a particular position. While 20 mil is a lot of money, it is still less than lets say 25 mil or obviously 30 mil some qbs get. The bucs will negotiate a new contract with him next off season. Only but hurt mariotta jock sniffers are too dumb to see that winston will be in tampa a long time.
April 17th, 2018 at 3:15 pm
Webster
don’t get mad at me because cam has had a Cam has had a great defense, running game and pretty good kicker those 4 years “he” has gone to the playoffs……blame dirk, smitty and licht……im just stating facts…..why so sensitive?…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 3:18 pm
813
Not his fault. But to say “he” went to the playoffs as if his excellent defense, kicking game and run game had nothing to do with is stupid. To say “he” went to the playoffs four times as if winston was dealing with the same deck as cam is again stupid. So no, “he” did not go to the playoffs four times, his TEAM did.
April 17th, 2018 at 3:21 pm
As nflnut was trying to point out before you responded with your playoff rebuttital, winston has performed at a higher level than cam at times. Again, he is good enough to start for a playoff TEAM whether you want to give him credit or not.
April 17th, 2018 at 3:48 pm
webster
when you assume, you make an a$$ out of you…..
clearly your still learning that…..
in no way shape or form did I suggest cam did it all by himself…..
pull you skirt down…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 5:03 pm
Mostly lost in this discussion…one poster did mention that regardless of what happens even a suspension…but Bucs should be prepared.
I love Fitz but don’t know that I feel that great about him playing our first four games IF that is required.
So what’s the real deal with Ryan Griffin…last year he supposedly was close to beating out Fitz for that second spot. Of course his total lack of experience is frightening but does the kid have any talent? Does anybody know?
April 17th, 2018 at 5:11 pm
Jameis will lead Bucs to playoffs when he:
A) becomes a more accurate passer
B) reduces or minimizes fumbles and interceptions
He has the talent, leadership skills and a winning attitude
I could care less how much money he makes- good for him!
April 17th, 2018 at 5:26 pm
that’s a great question……not sure about ryan’s status….he looked decent in preseason before his injury…..
fitz did go 2-1 albeit vs a couple lousy teams…..I think he’s capable of going .500 at least but idk…..
that is a great question…..any info anyone?……
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!!!….GO BUCS!!!!!
April 17th, 2018 at 7:19 pm
I didnt assume. You are the same yahoo last week talking about winning qbs and how winston was not without taking into consideration the defense, running game, kicking game. So for you to rebutt nflnut that “he” went to playoffs 4 times is your standard back hand remark about winston. Why even bring up cam’s playoff appearances then? Why not just agree that winston has performed better at times? Because you still feel winston should be able to go to the playoffs by himself even when i showed that even drew brees needs a complete team as well. You are not fooling anyone but yourself
April 17th, 2018 at 7:44 pm
” Tennessee is welcoming additional fans” Thanks Joe, needed a laugh after a long, long day at work. Thanks for what you do!
April 17th, 2018 at 11:07 pm
Defense Rules
I stand corrected
And yes, I meant Nelson
April 18th, 2018 at 6:28 am
Anybody that rates Jameis above Cam is smoking some strong weed. Or Jameis above ANY NFC South QB.