Doug Martin Joins Chucky In Oakland
March 15th, 2018
Embraced by the Raiders
Frankly, Joe’s simply posting a picture and a few words here about this accurate nonsense.
Good luck, Doug Martin, who returns to his hometown Raiders at 29 years old.
Good luck, Chucky, whose film study of Martin over the past two years must have been accompanied by consumption of hallucinogens.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:38 pm
Let’s see what the dougernaut can do with a legit offensive line whose local media doesn’t have to lie about how good they are
March 15th, 2018 at 2:39 pm
Good luck, Doug!
I wish we cut ties with you last year so we could have made a sweet offer to Calais Campbell.
I hope your demons are gone, and you do well!
Thanks for 2 good years out of 6. .333 would be a solid batting average, but not solid for a NFL RB’s productivity.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:40 pm
I got my Raiders app downloaded. I’ll waste a year watching Gruden. Better than watching this chit show. Damn shame too.
#Boycott2018
March 15th, 2018 at 2:40 pm
Laugh all you like Joe..and fellow Buc fans. But just sit back and watch Chucky turn Martin into a very productive running back again. Yes, sometimes..it is the coach!
March 15th, 2018 at 2:41 pm
They will soon find out that the “Muscle Hamster” has turned into an “Emotional Support Hamster”.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:43 pm
Good for him, I hope he turns his career around for the Raiders and supplements Lynch.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:44 pm
Running left behind Donald Penn~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
March 15th, 2018 at 2:45 pm
I don’t know Joe.
Get him away from the epic dysfunctional environment
into a tightly structured Chucky environment and he may explode.
Lol….Calling it now: DOug Nartin will run wild under Chucky who
will look like a genius and further drive home the point that the
glazers are fundamentally bad people
March 15th, 2018 at 2:45 pm
*Martin
March 15th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
Jason McCourty was cut loose….SIGN HIM!
March 15th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
The Glazers are bad people. They host fundraisers for the cheeto in chief
March 15th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
He’ll be yet another ex buc doing great elsewhere.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:46 pm
He will have a resurgence if he can receive his hand-off’s before a defense tackle, unlike his last two years here in Tampa.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
Good luck to Drug rehab Martin…a guy that played mostly below his potential, that rarely found the motivation to play up to his potential. Hope he can avoid the addiction pitfalls he fell into here, and he has a good life. But from here on, it is “Doug who”?
March 15th, 2018 at 2:48 pm
Bucsfaninchina is 100% right.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:49 pm
BTW…just shows that Licht and Koetter is running a three ring circus here. Time to clean the dung from the punchbowl, and for the Glazer clowns to sell the team to owners that have a clue to what it takes to build a good football team.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
Mike Johnson,
Martin may rebound, but he should have been cut before last year. He is selfish and had a problem that led to his suspension. Martin had $7 million reasons not to be a sh!thead, but was and it likely cost us the salary cap resources to pursue Calais Campbell.
Martin should have been cut. Why pay him $7 milliion to sit out 3 games, and then give us 2.9 ypc. Disgraceful.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
They’re bad people in that they’re the dictionary definition of “carpet-bagger”. Their long term plan has always been the London Buccaneers, which explains perfectly the last 16 years of suck.
Either that or they have no clue how to run an NFL franchise.
Howard will bet on the former.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:52 pm
2.9 YARDS AND A CLOUD OF DUST … JUST WHAT THE RAIDERS NEED …
March 15th, 2018 at 2:53 pm
OneBucPerson Said:
Good for him, I hope he turns his career around for the Raiders and supplements Lynch.
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Hahahahaha. You said “supplements!” (DRUG MARTIN, get it?)
Lynch said, “No, thank you. This is all whey protein.”
March 15th, 2018 at 2:53 pm
Nobody thought Antonio Bryant, Joel Galloway, or Ike Hilliard had anything left
either.
And nobody thought Rich Gannon was a superstar till Chucky coached him.
Chucky is the master of resurrecting NFL players. Martin will likely play very well.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:55 pm
He will get over 1100 yards and over 4.5 yards per carry and dummies here will say he was lazy instead of realizing Dirk’s run play calling for most of the year was terrible and the offensive line played like garbage. Gruden LOVES to use a single back as his workhouse, so as long as Martin is healthy, this move will make the Bucs look really dumb.
March 15th, 2018 at 2:56 pm
Good luck doug. Teach em how to dougie!!!
March 15th, 2018 at 2:56 pm
I notice a lot of you guys talk about the Bucs moving to London … is there a reason ya’ll think that other than the Glazers own a soccer team in the UK? I really want to know … as honestly I’d love to see a team based on the UK but always just sort of figured it would be the Jaguars as they seem to play a lot of games over there and have no real fan base at all stateside … am I wrong?
BTW … Jameis would be an icon in the UK if given a chance but that country is so crazy that the fans might demand Colin Kaepernick just so they can pat themselves on the back and feel like wonderfully tolerant lefties …
March 15th, 2018 at 2:58 pm
IMO…Martin is a hard straight ahead runner with little juke….that is fine if you can get past the offensive line….I wish him well…but don’t have any second guesses…it was time to find a new younger RB….
March 15th, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Heres to I DONT GIVE A BUC!
March 15th, 2018 at 3:00 pm
Guarantee Doug will have a career year rushing for over 1400 yards for the season and then have 2 touchdowns in the Super Bowl for the Raiders win. THAT aid the Bucs luck!
March 15th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
bucsfaninchina Said:
The Glazers are bad people. They host fundraisers for the cheeto in chief.
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And Mike Tomlin was hosting fundraisers for the biggest foreign spy in American history (pay for play trailer trash Hitlary), after claiming he doesn’t “do politics.”
Why bring politics into the house?
March 15th, 2018 at 3:01 pm
@Lucious Selmon That was the joke. Get it? Supplements sound pretty similar to supplants.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:02 pm
@joe… what do you think about this. Is this just Chucky thinking he can make Martin look good which will make the Bucs look terrible if he is successful?
What can anyone possibly see that make D mart look like he should be signed… especially this early. I thought Martin would get a slightly better than minimum offer from a team after the draft but on the 2nd day of FA??
March 15th, 2018 at 3:02 pm
Jason McCourty released from the Browns. Your thoughts Joe?
March 15th, 2018 at 3:05 pm
OneBucPerson Said:
@Lucious Selmon That was the joke. Get it? Supplements sound pretty similar to supplants.
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Man, that’s embarrassing. I thought I was pretty clever for a minute.
Maybe just a little slow. 🙂
March 15th, 2018 at 3:06 pm
another bucs player that will go on to have a stellar career……
March 15th, 2018 at 3:08 pm
@Joe
“whose film study of Martin over the past two years must have been accompanied by consumption of hallucinogens.”
Go ahead and drop the mic that’s the line of the day!
March 15th, 2018 at 3:10 pm
@Lucious Selmon Nah I’m just screwing with you, I meant to write supplant and got it confused with supplement. That was a good joke by you mate!
March 15th, 2018 at 3:12 pm
The Glazers are making oodles of money right here.
Very favorable stadium deal, doesn’t really matter how many folks show up for games with the huge tv $$$.
I think they actually want to win. But they just cant seem to hire the right people. And now they have butchered it so badly and fired so many coaches and whatnot is hard to see how they could get anybody worth a damn to run and coach the team.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Chucky hope to resurrect the career of a former Buc outta spite. Probably saw the film of Martin running for 250+ on the Raiders and said “here’s my next Charlie Garner”!
March 15th, 2018 at 3:14 pm
Never thought I would ever say this, at least my wife is from Ohio and I can root for the Browns….. this team gives me little hope.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:15 pm
Is that true BucsFanInChina??? Damn, if so it proves they have horrible judgment and directly ties in to how poorly this franchise has been run since they took over.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:17 pm
Bucs to London ?
hell the NFL is faltering here in the USA…lots of empty seats and long time every game fans are literally a dying breed…unless you are the Packers or a play off caliber team stadium revenue is sliding….the sport is over hyped and over produced…2 hours pregames with 5 talking heads….Yawn !!!!!!
March 15th, 2018 at 3:17 pm
I still have hope as I think Jameis is going to break out this year.
He was coming on strong at the end of last year. Still young and learning.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:21 pm
Panthers just signed DONTARI POE!!! 3 year deal, ughhhhhhhhh 🙁
March 15th, 2018 at 3:21 pm
With the Raiders OL and Jon Gruden playcalling, the sky is the limit for Dougie
Go get it Dougie
March 15th, 2018 at 3:23 pm
Yep…Panthers get Poe and Peppers, Bucs counter with tender white meat. NFC South basement secured yet again.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
Carolina Panthers,
CB Bashaud Breeland
DT Dontari Poe
WR Torrey Smith
March 15th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
AlteredEgo faltering lol. Poor owners aren’t making the billions they were but are still making billions. I wish I had the chance to invest in this failing venture.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:24 pm
@TouchDownTampaBay
https://deadspin.com/bucs-and-manchester-united-owner-ed-glazer-will-host-a-1823746166
March 15th, 2018 at 3:30 pm
Jensen Has left the building.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:38 pm
Greg
Jenson was going to Indy regardless of whether the Bucs offered him a giant deal or not. That was the plan all along.
Also, all the “fans” ready to jump ship to the Raiders can go right on ahead. We won’t miss you.
March 15th, 2018 at 3:57 pm
Eric “Very favorable stadium deal, doesn’t really matter how many folks show up for games with the huge tv $$$.”….it does make a huge difference …witness Jerry’s World….owners don’t share revenue ,or greatly reduced, stadium generated…team gear….all the incidental stuff…goes directly into their pockets
March 15th, 2018 at 4:00 pm
Watch him lead the league
March 15th, 2018 at 4:03 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Doug has a nice career in OAK. His drug problem could have been part of his issues. Not saying he didn’t kick his habit just saying I don’t know.
There’s also a thing called run blocking scheme. There’s no doubt in my mind that Lovie Smith used a better run scheme then Dirk does. You don’t just have Doug Martin as proof of this you may look at Charles Sims numbers as proof too. I would have to think Gruden is a smart enough coach to think that his run scheme will be able to get Doug productive. Or maybe he wants him as a backup.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:13 pm
And it ain’t no Tampa thing why we see players leave here and go on to play better elsewhere. Think back to when Dungy and Gruden were here and tell me how many players left and looked like new players? Maybe there’s are cases but I don’t remember any.
Most of these examples have come since them and their has been one common theme. Poor coaching and a poor culture. These other teams do not have magic in their water. We shall see what happens with Doug but we have already seen ASJ get kicked to the curb only to start to revitalize his career. My guess is Sims has a very productive year if he moves on too.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:13 pm
“There’s no doubt in my mind that Lovie Smith used a better run scheme then Dirk does”
Ton of doubt in mine. Dirk was the one who pounded the table to keep Martin after he sucked in 2014 under a different coordinator. He then had his best season of the last 3 in 2015.
DIrk was a solid OC in 2015. His playcalling in 16/17 hasn’t been as good/creative/well timed in comparison as a head coach. He used a lot of screens in 15′ primarily with Sims and a lot of things in general to keep defenses off balance. I’d like to see him getting back to that form this year with more creativity in how he disgueses what he’s going to do from each formation and in general getting the run game going
March 15th, 2018 at 4:14 pm
love gruden but he is going to fail the same way that he did in tampa with his love of senior citizens and has beens. that will blow up in his face. if you can’t develop young players you will not succeed and gruden has proven more than anyone he can’t develop players. these soft arse politically correct players are going to tire of gruden fast but he got paid.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:20 pm
KAWANN SHORT, DONTARI POE, VERNON BUTLER
GMC, BEAU ALLEN, MITCH UNREIN
SEE A DIFFERENCE? I DO!
March 15th, 2018 at 4:21 pm
tmax…but if they can win a SB before it hits the fan, I’d bet fans in Oakland will be happy with it.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
When the Panthers lost Lotulelei and Worley I was happy … they replaced and UPGRADED them with Breeland and Poe and added Torrey Smith to improve their passing game as well … ugh
March 15th, 2018 at 4:22 pm
GMC, BEAU ALLEN, MITCH UNREIN
a POS quitter and 2 nobodys
March 15th, 2018 at 4:24 pm
GRUDEN???????? WHAT IS HE DOING???????
He lets Autry go and then signs Doug Martin?
He lets Crabtree go to sign the washed up Jordy Nelson to $7.5mil per?
UM … DOES HE THINK IT’S STILL 2012?
March 15th, 2018 at 4:24 pm
tmax.. what a way for the Oakland fans to wave goodbye to the Oakland franchise as they move to Vegas.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:24 pm
1st comment nailed it.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:25 pm
mark2001
i get that but do not get that. i rather build a consistent winner versus a ONE and DONE pretender… We have been there and done that… would you not rather people hating the bucs for consistently winning versus the current state of irrelevance.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:26 pm
Nut…Nelson isn’t “washed up”. He left the Packers because he wouldn’t take a pay cut and they had a problem with too many good receivers and not enough money to go around. When healthy, Nelson can play as well as Mike Evans, for a year anyway… and last year he was coming off of a major injury.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:27 pm
Panthers gave Poe $9mil per … Allen & Catanzaro cost $8.3mil per
I think Licht feels good though and is probably thinking, “stupid Panthers, they paid $9mil per for Poe and I got Beau Allen AND Mitch Unrein for just $8.5mil per”
Oh boy ….
March 15th, 2018 at 4:27 pm
tmax…I’d rather have a “consistent winner”…but when have we ever experienced that? And when anywhere other than New England, Green Bay, Seattle, and Pittsburgh?
March 15th, 2018 at 4:28 pm
Nelson was great at timing his run to the spot…..not sure our guy has proven he can make those throws….except for the last one last year
March 15th, 2018 at 4:28 pm
mark2001,
We’ll have to agree to disagree … I watched Jordy play … he’s washed up. The dude gets ZERO separation and averaged like 9.8 yards per catch … Hump is worth more than Jordy and Jordy is going to make 2.5x as much … crazy.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:29 pm
mark2001
bucs franchise has never seen it…. dungy era were pretenders not contenders great defnese on a HORRIBLE team. Gruden was one and done in tampa basically. Never won a single meaningful game after the super bowl. there are trade offs. it does not really matter in our case considering the glazers have NO intentions of fielding a respectable team.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
CHUCKY just signed a FB to $2.1mil per … he does think it’s 2012 … maybe he can sign Adrian Peterson next and run a three RB option offense?
Hey, TeBow’s still available … didn’t say TeBow would dominate the NFL?
March 15th, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Further…I don’t see Licht and Koetter being capable of building a “consistent winner”…..so when do you think we will start building that? Manana?
March 15th, 2018 at 4:32 pm
mark2001
it’s not going to be soon. glazers have no intentions of winning. furthest thing from their minds. actions and inaction prove it.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:33 pm
Nut…you saw Jordy the year after a major injury with a substandard QB that couldn’t deliver the ball worth squat…one that GB will be washing out shortly. And we know how badly a good receiver can look without a QB that can drop the ball in the basket for them.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:37 pm
mark2001,
Like I said, we’ll have to agree to disagree as I think Jordy is junk now … I also don’t know that Carr will help him as both Crabtree and especially Amari Cooper both sucked last year as well …
March 15th, 2018 at 4:44 pm
Lord Corn……You can forget that 2015 offense. That was not Dirks offense. He was the playcaller that had to call plays within the gameplan that his HC laid out for him. I’ve heard him say exactly that in a radio interview.
The bottom line is that Dirk has been awful as a HC. The only time his team had a winning streak his offense was just as poor. And he has been quoted on this site saying he doesn’t meddle with the defense. Until his team proves otherwise he has been a horrible HC IMO
March 15th, 2018 at 4:44 pm
Jags got Austin Sefarian-Jenkins … if that team had a real QB they could win the SB this year no doubt
March 15th, 2018 at 4:44 pm
Nut…the Packers don’t think so. I follow them pretty closely during the summer. They had too many receivers they were trying to keep….good young guys… and offered him a salary reduction to keep him. This problem was looming early last season, and wasn’t precipitated by Jordy’s off year. He wasn’t cut…just asked to take a salary cut so they could keep the young guys. The season will prove what he has left….his hands are as good as ever. He has lost a step. But no sense in arguing about it….Gruden knew how to get McCardell, JJ and Key the ball, and I’m pretty sure he will know how to get the ball to Jordy. We will see.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:53 pm
Tmax I would be so quick to write the book on Gruden. To me it’s a chain of command.
I don’t know what the deal is in Oakland but if Gruden has full control like he did here then, yes, it’s a recipe for failure. If he has good management above him, like he did with Al Davis, then he could be very successful.
I think you are letting you Buccaneers loyalty taint your view of things.
The Glazers made the awful decision to let him have all the power and ruin the orginazation but that doesn’t mean the Raiders will let him do the same. If they are smart they have done their homework on what went wrong with Gruden in TB and won’t let the same happen to them.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:55 pm
Nut I’d argue that the Jags could have been in the SuperBowl with better play calling in the AFC game
March 15th, 2018 at 4:56 pm
I would prefer WR Michael Crabtree over Desaun Jackson to be honest….but Jackson has too much dead cap space to let go of this year. Trade him for a DE and sign WR Michael Crabtree? I’d like that!
March 15th, 2018 at 4:58 pm
I wouldn’t bet against Jordy. He was doing just fine last year til Rodgers went down.
Yes Carr is no Rodgers but he darn sure ain’t no Hundley.
March 15th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
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MUST-READ … INTERESTING IDEA:
BROWNS: SAM DARNOLD
GIANTS: SAQUON BARKLEY
BILLS (trade with Colts): JOSH ALLEN
BROWNS: BRADLEY CHUBB
BRONCOS: QUENTON NELSON
JETS: BAKER MAYFIELD
BUCS … draft Josh Rosen (cheap for the next 4 years so the team can build a great defense and spend like crazy in the next few free agency classes) and TRADE JAMEIS and GMC to the Jags for Blake Bortles, Marcel Dareus ($20.816mil for $20.175), the Jags 2017 draft (yes, ALL of their picks) and their 2019 1st rounder.
The Bucs could then flip Bortles and maybe a 3rd and 4th to the Cardinals for the #15 pick in the draft as well.
So, the Bucs would trade Jameis and GMC and get back Marcel Dareus, the #15, #29, #61, #93, #129, #203, #230 and #247!
FYI, the 2018 Jags’ picks are worth 2,164.8 points which is equal to the value between the #3 and #4 overall picks in the draft. Add in their 2019 1st rounder and it’s more like a #1 overall value.
Ya’ll know I believe in Jameis’ future more so than any other young QBs, so I would NOT do this trade but I’m guessing a lot of you guys would … and I think the Jags would as well … and I think they’d win the SB next year too!
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March 15th, 2018 at 5:00 pm
jimmyjack
if the glazers were smart it would not be decades in between competitive teams
March 15th, 2018 at 5:01 pm
nflnut
very creative but man you are hitting the bottle hard my man.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:04 pm
NFLnut. Jameis hasn’t shown enough on and off the field to swing that kind of deal. With all the good young QB’s coming into the league the last couple years, and the fact that Jameis hasn’t really made the jump yet, few GM’s would risk their entire future on him.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:06 pm
“I’ve heard him say exactly that in a radio interview.”
Heard him say the exact opposite in press conferences. He ran the offense he wanted.
Regardless – Doug Martin / the run game / was pathetic in 2014 under Lovie when there was basically no OC. Koetter stepped in the next year and set franchise records in 2015 in terms of total yards and had one of the best running offenses in the league.
And Lovie has never been associated with a team’s offense other than wanting to run the ball / be conservative. None of that has anything to do with play design concepts / play calling which is what massively improved between 2014-2015; obviously due to an OC change.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:07 pm
Well chosen screen name…..NFLnut… 🙂
March 15th, 2018 at 5:08 pm
NFLNut,
Interesting proposal.
Why lot just trade Jameis and get an early pick?
I want Jameis to do well and get a second contract with the Bucs. And I hope he’s not suspended. Because if Goodell decides to suspend him our season is torpedoed and his trade value is nil.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:10 pm
From one nut to another…Too nutty nut.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:13 pm
Ryan Jensen left with no contract and is heading to Indy.
Pitiful.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:16 pm
Nut
The kush on fire today huh?
March 15th, 2018 at 5:17 pm
Rod Munch Says:
March 15th, 2018 at 5:13 pm
Ryan Jensen left with no contract and is heading to Indy.
….Jason has him right where he wants them…Hawley is on Licht’s speed dial…..I saw a mock with Barkley available at 7…..SMH….
March 15th, 2018 at 5:23 pm
ANNNNND DONTARI POE goes to the Panthers for $27mil @ 3 yrs. Wich equals to $9mil a yr…..WTF IS GOING ON JASON LICHT!!!!!
March 15th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
NFLNut…you are nuts. LOL
March 15th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
So the Saints are bringing in Suh, yet they only have $12-million in cap space, $11-million in dead money and need $6-million to sign rookies. Are they worried about being in cap hell!?!? How can they make a move like signing Suh, aren’t they worried about 4 years from now when it might come back to bite them in the rear. Cap hell is real – it cost Gruden a chance at a SB, he totally was going to win another one but cap hell came along and he was helpless. I don’t get why the Saints would try to make a move like this – I’d much rather have a loser team than worry about cap hell.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Anyway, here’s my updated wishlist:
2018 Free Agency Wishlist
• QB Ryan Fitzpatrick (RE-SIGNED)
• RB Jerick McKinnon (SIGNED W/49ERS)
• WR Adam Humphries (2nd Round Tendered)
• TE Cameron Brate (RFA) (RE-SIGNED)
– G Senio Kelemete (SIGNED BY TEXANS)
• CB Brent Grimes (RE-SIGNED)
– K Cody Parkey (SIGNED W/BEARS)
• RB LeGarrette Blount *
• RB Orleans Darkwa *
• DT Ndamukong Suh
• OLB/DE Junior Galette
• CB Ross Cockrell
• DB Tyrann “Honey Badger” Mathieu *
• DB Tre Boston *
March 15th, 2018 at 5:26 pm
Well, I’m tired and I have to proof read some stuff. See you all tomorrow.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:27 pm
Later Bonzai!
I hope a Badger or Suh end up with the Bucs. Both would be a dream.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:28 pm
El_Buc941 – Poe got $9m/year? LOL! I’m with Licht on that one, a DT that can’t rush the passer and just eats up space for $9m…
But again, Carolina, they sign a guy for $9m/year when they only had $12m in cap space! OMG, they won’t even be able to draft anyone – they can’t afford it! I sentence the Panthers to CAP HELL! Take that Panthers… you might win the division next year but 4 years from now you may or may not be sorry.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:36 pm
As someone who has lived in both places, I can assure you that Tampa is not the Party and Drug City that some here make it out to be.
Sure, we have our problems, but Drugs are far more plentiful and less expensive, in Oakland. Tampa is not Miami, or even Orlando, so forget your Miami Vice memories.
My point is this – Wherever Doug Martin goes, there he is, and if he wants to find drugs out in Oakland, he will find them.
Please stop blaming his addiction issues on Tampa.
Doug might do great out in Oakland, and here is why. Anyone ever consider that some of his team mates were pissed at him for what they perceived as special treatment by the Bucs, and quit blocking for him, as well as they could ?
March 15th, 2018 at 5:36 pm
The Bucs called Mike Pouncey to find out if he was interested in signing a 1-year “prove it” deal for $2.5m/year, it’s down to that or signing a 4 year deal for $13m/year with the Ravens. It’s gonna be close…
March 15th, 2018 at 5:37 pm
Yeah….some teams are in position to win next year and facing “cap HELL”…
Buc are a looking down the barrel of another consecutive losing season laughing at those teams in cap hell…..Cap Space scoreboard !!!
March 15th, 2018 at 5:39 pm
Chris – That’s moronic, if any player decided they wouldn’t block for Martin because they perceived he was treated differently, then they should be promptly cut. That is really some cornball thought process you got there. Sounds to me like you’ve watched too many really poorly written sports dramas.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:41 pm
Doug Martin rushing for 1000 yards behind Donald Penn under John Gruden. Wow that’s gonna be great.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:44 pm
I get the feeling that Gruden is going to be total bust in Oakland. I loved watching his reaction to the coin flip at the combine.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:44 pm
BucEmUp – 1100 yards at more than 4.5 a carry, assuming he’s healthy.
March 15th, 2018 at 5:58 pm
Yes! Happy for Dougie!
March 15th, 2018 at 6:11 pm
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I’m thrilled most of ya’ll are laughing off the Jameis trade to the Jags as you now I personally wouldn’t trade Jameis … but I have fun thinking outside the box … and ya’ll know that if I made that post on a game day the comments section would be loaded with comments saying “yeah, trade him” and “great idea, do it Licht”.
BTW Mark2001 … you’re nuttier than me if you don’t think the Jags would bend over backwards to do that deal … THAT team with Jameis and GMC instead of Bortles and Dareus wins a SB imho.
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March 15th, 2018 at 6:18 pm
NFLNUT
CANCER93 has not accomplished a damn thing here what makes you think he would in Jacksonville… nothing but excuses and tears with thar POS
March 15th, 2018 at 6:20 pm
Lord Corn…..What you are saying is not the exact opposite. Dirk ran the offense he wanted. Which has an entirely different run scheme that he had as an offensive coordinator.
Our running game was thriving under Lovie Smiths game plan because we mostly ran out of pro formation. Sims was not just a third down back in that offense he was a legitimate weapon on every down. He ran against the grain of the blocking scheme where the defense would have to respec5 Doug getting the ball and overcommitt. This gave Sims holes to go through and open field to make plays. It’s why his ypc was so productive.
Sims was drafted for a reason. It’s now basically a wasted draft pick because he is not being utilized to expose his abilities. Dirk barely ever runs out of pro form. and every defense we play knows who is getting the ball. Doug is not skilled enough to be used like that. And the use of Sims has been awful. In 2016 he was ran as a feature back when Doug went down. This was an awful decision. Last year he was seen in the slot. He didn’t make a play from the slot all year. As only a third down back he did next to nothing. Using him on third down and predictably as a passing threat to only one side of the field completely eliminated him seeing any open field.
Sims was drafted to be a guy in a offense that would give him a few open field looks each game. His ability to impact a game has been wasted in Dirks offense. In Lovies offense it was exploited. The stats speak for themselves. Dirks offense has also wasted any chance for Doug to be productive in any way. He has been used in a two TE feature back set that would be fine if he is an all pro……..Go back and look at his film last year and just let me know how often he made a LB miss. He sucked and he was much better in Lovies offense when the LBs got caught guessing more and he didn’t have to make them miss.
Dirk doesn’t know his players doesn’t know how to get a running game going and doesn’t know how to use his lineman…..That’s why Marpet might be getting moved for the third time and why our run blockin* only improved when guys got injured……Keep hoping Dirk goes back to Lovies offense but it will never happen and his offense is only good if we get all pros at every position. That’s why we have to buy DJax and need to draft a RB.
March 15th, 2018 at 6:20 pm
**END RANT**
March 15th, 2018 at 6:28 pm
laughing endlessly out loud ….Gruden on LSD watching hamster in a 5 second loop
March 15th, 2018 at 6:28 pm
TMAXCON,
Jax doesn’t need GMC, he’d be a luxury and whatever he added would be fine … that team without Dareus is built to win NOW if it had a real QB, but upgrading Dareus to GMC (and no matter how much of a POS you think GMC is, he’s still an upgrade over Dareus) and massively upgrading from Bortles to Jameis could turn Jax into the most dominant team the NFL has seen in a while
March 15th, 2018 at 6:39 pm
nflnut
no one needs cancer93 he will ruin any locker room he enters
March 15th, 2018 at 6:40 pm
I’m torn on this one. I’d love to see Martin bounce back but I’d also like to see Chuckie fail in Oakland.
March 15th, 2018 at 6:41 pm
The Joes are so absurdly A/B black and white. Martin’s gonna be desperate, he generally alternates good and bad years, he’s not beat up, and he’ll simply be a backup/insurance policy to Lynch. Doesn’t mean Gruden is out of his gourd.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:06 pm
I’d be surprised if Martin tops 800 yards as a feature back … in Oakland behind Lynch I doubt he tops 400 yards …
March 15th, 2018 at 7:16 pm
Good to see Gruden still likes over the hill has beens…
March 15th, 2018 at 7:24 pm
Gruden isn’t going to keep Lynch around, the first time the cameras come into the locker room and they bypass Gruden to talk to Lynch he’ll be gone.
March 15th, 2018 at 7:30 pm
NFLNut….I wouldn’t take the chance with Jameis. He hasn’t shown the game up to par with any of the QB in our division. He may be…if he gets his head right and shows he can throw anything but jump balls more than 20 or 30 yards down the field. But no…I wouldn’t give all those picks plus players for the deal. Even up those two players? OK…but that wasn’t the deal, was it?
March 15th, 2018 at 7:35 pm
Nut…those players plus “the Jags 2017 draft (yes, ALL of their picks) and their 2019 1st rounder.” as you said. That deal would be a GM career killer…. they would be nuts to do that.
March 15th, 2018 at 10:34 pm
Nfl Nut,
‘re; London Bucs,
Thank you. The entire notion is based on the fact the Glazers also own a football team in the UK. I have to think that the fools who tout this blasphemy are ignorant to the fact that there’s more than NFL owner who is also a owner in the premiership. One is in the same state and owns the second most popular club.
Which brings me back to your point. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Jacksonville moved. Same reason as you state but I will add more facts to the fire. That other owner , also owns Jax. And, unlike the Bucs, is actively involved in building a fan base in the UK. Jax actively lobbies to play there whereas the Bucs do not.
And last, all the team’s primary revenue stream is derived from the league’s revenue sharing agreement. The league’s primary revenue is derived from the broadcast rights contracts with the major networks. If Jax moved to the UK, the value of the broadcasting rights for the league is not negatively impacted by losing the jax local/regional area. Tampa Bay is much more valuable than jax and is more valuable than the alternative UK revenues. N.N. (The following is not addressed to you.)
If the typical low IQ buc conspiracy theorists can’t understand how the business model impacts the decisions made collectively by the owners, which moving a franchise is one, then I will splain it ezr……it’s bout dem Benjamin’s . Mo money v less money.
The money is Not to the Glazers …..wait for it……its to the other owners. Which means if the Bucs owners want to move, they just need to pay off the other owners. Sorry I’m going to take a giant dump on you conspiracy theorists but here’s the real deal.
The Glazers can move today if they choose. They don’t need to run attendance down that’s just a misdirection , oddly enough people who believe elaborate conspiracies can’t discern between the public and private negotiations. Which may explain why they believe in such tomfoolery and balderdash in the first place. To move tomorrow, the Glazers simply need to pay enough extortion money to the other “Dons”. It’s that simple.
——-Take a second to digest it because I know you think it’s not that simple it’s it’s about attendance and……….stop it. It’s not. It’s about the money for the other capo’s. —-
Now here’s the best part if you are anti Semitic. If this did happen, the area would be awarded another franchise. Why? Because of the value that the area’s TV market. I’ll help again, think Cuba and gambling. The Don’ s love a vacuum.
Too abstract…
March 15th, 2018 at 10:35 pm
I swear im about to fly out there and pull a tanya harding if he blows up and gets over a thousand yards…..getting tired of this kinda stuff.
March 15th, 2018 at 11:47 pm
Duke,
Now THAT was a great post; thank you for taking the time to type that!
March 15th, 2018 at 11:49 pm
Mark2001,
Again, imo you’re nuts if you don’t think Jax would do that trade in a heartbeat … it would be the Bucs that would turn it down.
Also, Jameis has been better than Cam the last two years and was better than Matt Ryan last year and he’s a lot younger than both. The Jags might even make that sort of trade for Ryan so they would definitely do it for Jameis imho.
March 16th, 2018 at 11:20 am
Poor Nut…they would do that trade for all those picks and players…. Ridiculous.
Secondly, excuse me, but I’m a win and playoff guy. The rest just means you choke when the time comes to win the big game, or just good enough to win some games but lose the big ones. And if that is your measure, go ahead…make that trade. But Jameis has proven NOTHING so far. That you can’t get it speaks poorly of you.
March 16th, 2018 at 12:59 pm
let’s not forget Chucky could never figure out what to do with Mike Alstott