Two Ex-Bucs Are Deeply Critical Of Jameis

December 5th, 2017

On-field play and demeanor scrutinized

Former Bucs receiver Michael Clayton likes the big-picture for America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston, but he’s certainly not feeling what he’s seeing from Jamies right now.

And he’s not alone.

Clayton co-hosts a Bucs pregame show on WDAE-AM 620 and fires off all kinds of opinions. He’s intelligent, knowledgeable and wacky all rolled into one. Speaking Sunday, he rolled out all kinds of takes on Jameis.

In no particular order:

*Jameis’ pregame antics and speeches appear to be “a show to cover up the nerves.” Clayton thinks all that fiery, anxious energy is, in part, to distract from Jameis’ talent deficiencies.

*Jameis is “indecisive in the pocket” and needs to learn the simple art of tucking and scrambling for a few yards and moving on to the next play.

*Clayton wants Jameis to remake himself with a demeanor change, one that’s more professional on game day.

Interesting takes.

They were complemented in a more clinical fashion by former Bucs tight end Anthony Becht, an Xs and Os guru who works part-time for the Buccaneers. Becht was on WDAE yesterday talking Jameis and sharing how he believes Jameis definitely needs work on his decisions and more.

“The one thing right now that’s glaring that’s not real clean in his game, is the movement and the awkward throws,” Becht said. “So when the pocket breaks down, and he’s good and athletic enough to move around and get out of the pocket, you start to see poor decisions, and he’s not able to justify the throws that he’s making. I think there’s time where he just needs to slide, he just needs to run, he threw a couple balls back across the field. He got very lucky on some of them, completed one, but again, not really the operation you want to go with.

“And then you also talk about the vision. When he’s out there and he’s moving and he’s throwing, his vision on the outside, where defenders are sitting and coming back in, it almost seems like he’s not seeing those guys when he’s throwing the football. And it becomes very close to becoming interceptions.”

Yes, Jameis has loads of room to improve.

Clayton added that he doesn’t think the Bucs made the wrong draft pick with Jameis, and Becht, too, highlighted some positives. So these guys aren’t running Jameis out of town — just calling it as their experienced eyes see it.

68 Responses to “Two Ex-Bucs Are Deeply Critical Of Jameis”

  1. Cover Deuce Says:

    The biggest area for improvement I can see is not repeatedly getting embroiled in sexual assault allegations.

  2. BucTrooper Says:

    Michael Clayton has absolutely no grounds to be criticizing anyone. Him talking about someone’s on-field play is the equivalent of Rosie O’Donnell criticizing the effectiveness of P90X.

  3. Gt40bear Says:

    Sounds like this is going back to coaching…unless we’re saying Jameis is uncoachable! Where is there a QB whisperer when you need one? Until he gets control of his emotions and decision making, he’ll NEVER be an ELITE QB. THAT is mostly on coaching, unless, again, he is uncoachable.

  4. C eh N eh D eh Says:

    Same old hopeful, savior of a Bucs QB…Testaverde, Dilfer, King, Freeman…we all waited for them to get better, but never happened…I’ve seen enough to know this will not get any better…He’s a career turnover machine because he doesn’t see the field like the great ones. Inaccurate and being a slow starter is a bad combo too. Can’t take another 4-5 years of this. Bucs need to move NOW, as in April 2018….

  5. Grt1 Says:

    At a boy Buc Trooper… he’s 23

  6. Defense Rules Says:

    Presuming that Koetter stays as HC, Jameis needs a new QB coach & a new OC. He’s regressing.

  7. passthebuc Says:

    Jameis will make a good backup for a long time. if he gets rid of his ego, he can make 5 million a year as a backup.
    I agree with the assessment by Clayton. He gets overwhelmed when everything goes array, its panic time until the next play. As the game progresses the more it transitions to constant panic while he is on the field.
    Jameis is great on paper, but on the field, he is average or below. Maybe he can grow out of it.

  8. Tom Edrington Says:

    I can just pictures the Joes wincing as they wrote this post….

  9. AlteredEgo Says:

    He needs to watch a ton of film on good NFL QB using the pocket….for starters…not sure much can been done about his innate inaccuracy….

  10. Syl Says:

    The was the big deal I saw from Jameis coming out of college. He seems to miss the underneath defender especially on the outside. I thought he got better last year, but in some ways he has regressed this year.

  11. Lamarcus Says:

    Imo

    Jw needs to improve nothing. That’s what wrong jw (if anything is wrong) he constantly trying improve something that not a perceive weakness. His only weakness is his strength to me- beating up other teams cb preferably Lattimore that got me fired up.

    On a serious note Joe I ask u about this earlier in the yr about having a action plan for these hero like Chris Essex moments. Tha action plan could been what mm does. Just throw to spot and receivers job to be there. More gimmick plays. More short routes Better run game. Not these long route 4 vertical system that takes 3-5 secs and no guarantees.

  12. Ozzie in SRQ Says:

    Agreed and agreed..I’ve said all season it’s more noticeable that he isn’t poised in the pocket .The footwork goes south he just looks uncomfortable and you wait for something to come out of it . Who can say if his pregame hype is a cover for nerves or fear having never suited up in the NFL very few can .It seems the Winston ship is taking on water by the week this more than usual.
    Like him or not he’ll be back next year and undoubtedly starting barring a vet QB being brought in which I think if we bring in the coach we all think ..There’ll be a vet to push Winston in 2018

  13. Ed Says:

    They are all very valid. Poise is a huge part of being a great quarterback, his confidence is an admirable characteristic that is part of being successful. Execution of the plays, being able to see the entire field are his problem, along with the inaccurate throws. I like his game when its good but when its bad its really bad. Jameis athletically reminds me of Matt Ryan but Ryan has the shorter release and knows where to go with the ball. Being that Koetter coached Ryan, he should have been able mold him more like Matt but not seeing the progression, they call him “Matty Ice” because of his coolness under pressure. Brady is another one that is so cool under pressure, then Rogers and Wilson, gotta have that quality to be great. Jameis has to slow things down in his mind and stop forcing plays that aren’t there plus the offense needs to change, there isn’t enough space for receivers, they need to get open faster.

  14. Lamarcus Says:

    U know on hard knocks Koetter told jw he didn’t have to carry this team cuz we had a great defense. That plan was trashed by week 2 and jw is AGAIN carrying this crap team. That’s the difference u see w Goff,wentz,mm, Prescott. They are not asked to carry thier team. But jw have been since he got here. Which is bad

  15. Rob Says:

    When you are paid to be the human ATM (America’s turnover machine), you know being careless with the football has no real reprocusions. Sporadic accuracy, multiple fumbles and interceptions along with dropped interceptions which should be counted as far as evaluating the franchise qb’s progression or rather regression indicate the Bucs tanked to pick number one and got their wish, not what they expected though. Off the field distractions whether factual or not, on field repeated mistakes and rookie miscues becoming ingrained habits. Specter of possible suspension next year. All not good. Only stat I care about is wins and we are 4-8 looking at 4-12. That sucks and now how much coaching turnover does this abortion of a season result in? Get ready for a continued tumultuous ride folks. Go Bucs!

  16. Nate Says:

    the guy was ROOKIE OF THE YEAR runner up if not for Rothlesberger’s year @ Buctrooper

    Its not like he had Americas QB or even close to what he is now throwing him the ball…..he made it to the playoffs the year the giants went all the way though ….even if we got booted 1st round by champs…..

    and after this playoff famine……that’s room to brag enuff imo

  17. Mort Says:

    Wow, hot take. 23 year Old kid is emotional and doesn’t see the bigger picture… no kidding? Really? Jesus, he is a kid. He will take time to grow. Thats the maturation process LITERALLY happening. The part where you continue to screw up, and learn from it. Every QB has had to learn and grow.

  18. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Love michael clayton and his take he is a true fan of the bucs and would be great on his own show, but he is right, jameis needs to settle down and think and stop the stupid falling down throwing the ball stuff, qbs are known for their wins and not eating them, jameis start eating teh football instead of throwing it to the other team

  19. Brett Says:

    Jameis certainly has some deficiencies in the decision making process. Had hoped due to his youth he would improve. But this may be who he is.

  20. AlteredEgo Says:

    Funny hearing Michael Clayton saying Jameis needs to settle down….his game day show is annoyingly hyper louder hyper louder….
    BTW
    Buc trivia….which Buc 1st round WR scored his first NFL TD without a helmet…..BWhahahahaha

  21. voiceofreason Says:

    nailed it, Cover Deuce!

  22. mike n Says:

    Jameis is the same he was at FSU. Unfortunately that doesn’t work in the NFL. Hopefuly he can improve. If you honestly critique Jameis, you are a hater. I’m not a hater, I just hate all the turnovers and inaccurate passes. People try to defend and grab an obscure fact like he’s the same as Manning… Yeah, he also has the same numbers as Jay Cutler through 40 games. No reason to move on from him, but plenty of reason to be worried. I’m worried because you see the same mistakes over and over.

  23. ATrain Says:

    So JOE writes an article on an exBuc talking about the negatives of Jamies

    BUT when an exBuc talks about how GMC is slacking NOTHING

    JOE you either are the BIGGEST GMC FAN OR ARE GMC IN DISGUISE

  24. SOEbuc Says:

    Who the hell cares about what two ex-bucs that were playing in the soon to be one out of 12 year playoff appearances time line have to say

  25. AlteredEgo Says:

    ^^^ plenty of reason to hedge the bet and draft a starting caliber QB next April….let it sort itself out…

  26. AlteredEgo Says:

    Clayton first TD….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRYnSGRaeis

  27. Mike Johnson Says:

    Both of these guys are sayin what many of us fans have been sayin all yr about Jameis. That is, He’s not improving at the rate WE..as fans want him to. Koetter once said, there’s not much he needs o do to change Jameis. WRONG!! Jameis needs mega work in all areas both on and off the field. I just hope we don’t have to wait 10 yrs for him to get there. I also believe Jameis has learned all he can from Koetter. Time to move on.

  28. Bculaw Says:

    I am a HUGE Jameis supporter, but I see a lot of wisdom in Clayton’s comments. Turn the ore-game pep talks over to Kwon. Jameis needs to work on staying calm and even-keeled – it would benefit him and his team. I love the passion, but he needs to learn to control it more. The VAST majority of his shortcomings flow from what I would call frantic tendencies – either trying to do too much when coverage breaks down, or trying to do too much when down multiple scores. Once he learns that a throwaway or sack is better than a turnover, and that he can’t erase a 15 point deficit with one throw, then he’ll be the guy we all want him to be.

    Don’t get too high or too low. Just let the confidence, talent, and hard work and preparation take over.

  29. 813bucboi Says:

    Defense Rules Says:
    December 5th, 2017 at 10:02 am
    Presuming that Koetter stays as HC, Jameis needs a new QB coach & a new OC. He’s regressing.

    well your right about him regressing…..and for that reason, dirk has no chance at being retained…..GO BUCS!!!!

  30. LocalJoker Says:

    I think he has a vision problem. He squints when he looks downfield. I’ve seen him do this since FSU yet nobody ever mentions it.

  31. AlteredEgo Says:

    Local….it has been discussed….#3 doe not like to wear contacts during games as I recall…..perhaps some Eric Dickerson Rx goggles 🙂

  32. Lord Cornelius Says:

    lol.

    Bech’s comments don’t line up with reality. Fact is Jameis has been one of the best QBs outside the pocket since he’s been in the NFL. Joe’s linked this multiple times. Also Monken / Koetter had said many of their biggest plays were such plays.

    It’s kind of ridiculous to criticize any QB’s pocket presence after a game in which they were hit on like over a 1/3 of their drop backs. The fumble for a TD was pretty damn fluky and doesn’t happen if he had any protection. He still needs to build better awareness of when to tuck the ball but he was like .01 millisecods from throwing it away; and we see that sh1t happen all the time to all other NFL QBs. Most aren’t unlucky enough to see the other team’s D-lineman go 70 yards for a TD though.

    He played a solid game. Focus on a strip sack/fumble freak play if you want to define his entire career by it but big picture over that entire game he played very solid. His accuracy has been up most games this year when he was healthier; closer to 65% vs 60% his first 2 years. In general his #s across the board looked better than the last 2 years up through the Buffalo performance.

  33. doolnutts Says:

    I LOVE reading people trying to be critical of Clayton… He failed in the NFL which happens to be one of the most volatile career paths in the nation…… So all of a sudden arm chair GM’s and Coaches think they know more then a guy who did make it in the NFL. hahahahahah yeah keep stroking your own ego fellas…

    As for Clayton’s take… IMO he is spot on. I love Winston’s energy and enthusiasm but he needs to improve and stop being sloppy with the football. That fumble/TD and miss WR just cant happen as often as it does.

  34. Lamarcus Says:

    Yea gmc and grimes NEVER sins….. win lose or draw. Gmc gets tons of passes cuz he is a pro bowler. Grimes is a loafer

  35. Lamarcus Says:

    Our young plyers on this team is getting a lot of heat

    Those vets are more disturbing next to msmith scheme. This cost us the 2017 season.

  36. Bucsfanman Says:

    The guy is in his 3rd season so we really, really need to stop using his age as an excuse for not maturing as a football player.

  37. mike n Says:

    @lord… the fluke fumble play? He has the same # of fumbles as he does starts. Not a fluke. He turns it over every game.

  38. mike n Says:

    Jameis is great when the pocket breaks down, just tries to do to much (and risk injury) needs to take the smaller game instead of the big play. We’ve been saying it for 3 years and I hope it gets better

  39. Frank Pillow Says:

    It’s the same old story as Fat Freeman- remember the kid that made plays with his legs and extended drives? Well, that was coached out of him real fast- resulting in Skinny Freeman’s locked into pocket demeanor. Similarly, Jaboo played with a keen sense of when and how to move inside and outside of the pocket and play on the run. It was a big part of his rookie success. Two years later he has his HC screaming about not running, sticking to his drops and keeping to the timing of all of these long developing routes. The point I’m making is that you play and scheme to comfort and strengths. That’s not happening here. Dirk isn’t doing this kid any favors. He’s not Matt Ryan anymore than Ryan is Ben Roethlisberger. Jaboo is more the latter than the former. But Dirk can’t seem to see that.

  40. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    It doesn’t matter how Clayton played…..we have commentators who never played the game including females making comments and criticisms. What matters is if he is correct…..I believe he was and Jameis’ shortcomings are quite obvious. He needs to clean them up and soon.

    His off field questions and his on field carelessness will cost him a great deal of money going forward. I hope he succeeds.

    We need to get him a defense……

  41. tnew Says:

    Quick.. don’t look. How many INT’s has Winston thrown this season???

    10, 12, must be at least that right.

  42. tnew Says:

    Second question, and I know this isn’t really applicable but, take out Carolina and Minnesota.

  43. Lamarcus Says:

    Frank pillow

    Ur right and I’m been beating that drum since his rookie season. Koetter trying to make him gabbert,ryan u know that’s not jw. Jw will be superstar by now only if. Koetter recognizes this glaring issue. Let jw be jw and the rocket will blast off on its way

  44. tnew Says:

    I just saw on another post how Wentz only has 6 on the year. I know Winston has played two less games, but he must have at least double… right.

  45. Bucsfanman Says:

    @tnew- It feels like more because of the fumbles, 10 to be exact. According to the stats he lost 3 of them.

  46. jerseybuc Says:

    Frank
    Blaming the coach for “skinny” Freeman is wrong. Ever think about WHY he lost all that weight? Someday the truth will come out. Freeman himself is responsible for wrecking not one, but two Buc seasons. I am so sick of hearing Schiano getting criticized for Free’s free fall. Schiano made plenty of mistakes, but MRSA and the implosion of Josh Freeman wre not on him.

    But you are right about one thing. Fat Freeman had a natural ability to sense pressure and take off when needed. When you watch 3 he seems to get his body ahead of his feet, definately needs to work on his footwork and decision making.

  47. Lord Cornelius Says:

    @ mike – by flukey I meant it was flukey that a lineman ran 70 yards for a TD afterwards vs it just fumbling and being recovered in a pile / or rolling out of bounds / or really anything.

    QBs turn the ball over at a rate of about once per game in the NFL on average for 16 turnovers a year between fumbles / interceptions.

    Jameis Winston has 9 total turnovers this year in 9 total games played; which is a better rate than any other year prior; and in line with the NFL average whereas usually he’s been bottom 1/3.

    Just some quick facts for a reality check to what is a bizarre media take on him this year imo; basically saying he’s been a horrible QB:

    His completion % is up – best of any year right now.
    He has a 2:1 TD to interception ratio – best of any year.
    His YPA at 7.5 is better than last year (about equal to year 1).
    His turnover rate is better – about 1 a game vs 1.5 a game.

    The only thing down statistically about him this year is TD % ; but many of us would point at the worst red zone play caller in the league for that in Koetter.

    All of this despite having a hurt shoulder much of the year.

    He actually has improved in pretty much every statistical category lol; yet no one would think this by reading the media’s take on his performance(s).

  48. Lord Cornelius Says:

    Seriously our red zone offense is so bad…

    What ever happened to the play action roll out in a heavy package where Winston can find a TE or try to run it in while scrambling? That’s probably been our most effective scoring play and I haven’t even seen it this year really – despite us converting it all the time in prior years.

    It’s like our red zone play book is a bunch of low % risky plays. Pitch plays or edge runs that can get stopped for 5-7 yard losses. Long developing play action without a roll out. Plays designed to get it to Djax instead of just throwing a fade to ME or Howard or anyone else not named Djax. It’s truly baffling – just the actual play designs themselves; not to mention the horrible run/pass decision making in those situations.

  49. cmurda Says:

    If a superior blocking WR talks about how a Qb is performing, you listen. Nah, I’m just playin.

  50. AlteredEgo Says:

    ^ if you take with the 17th overall pick….the 5th WR taken in that draft glass….your GM is grasping in desperation …Ground Hog Day….’tis a Buc’s Life

  51. ndog Says:

    You guys are unreal, HE WAS SACKED 7 TIMES!!!!!! Are you kidding me with all of these thoughts on what our QB should be doing better?!?!?!?!?!? Our defense could not stop a team that was basically telling everyone we are scared to throw the ball and our QB is the problem!?!?!?!?!?

  52. AlteredEgo Says:

    ndog…know when and where to throw the ball…QB must understand what is unfolding before him and where to throw the ball on trust and timing……BEFORE the play opens up for a mini second….not look and watch like dunce…then scramble like back yard football/FSU when he was there

  53. Phil Says:

    I love Jameis as our quarterback and I think he has all the talent in the world but he has to stop doing stupid stuff on & off the field.

  54. Cobraboy Says:

    One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over.

    We’ve seen this in Winston since Day 1.

    Seems he doesn’t absorb coaching well.

  55. Erik w/ Clean Athletics 'The Kwon Alexander of Bucs fans' Says:

    Glazers, please give Jameis give 1 season in a different offensive scheme before he has another underwhelming year in this low-percentage offense.

    Dirk’s offense is all 3-pointers and lay-ups with no short and mid-range jump shots or Center posts Lol.

    Why are we not killing teams with the TE seam routes etc?

    OJ Howard could guaranteed be having games like Greg Olson has had on us in the past.

    He could prob dominate every game in the right offense considering the other wideouts that guys should have to worry about.

    And he is just one example of mismanagement by Dirk.

    Dirk’s scheme is honestly terrible at this point.

  56. Erik w/ Clean Athletics Says:

    Actually, I meant to post from my other browser where I’ve temporarily (hopefully) removed my association with the once Great Kwon Alexander.. He needs to step up his game a bit for me have any desire to be associated with him publicly Lol

  57. NFLNut Says:

    ******************************

    Jameis does NOT have a single “talent deficiency” … he can make every throw there is. He is however a 23 year old with a serious “experience deficiency” after having played just 2 years of NCAA football and always only dedicating 50% of his energy to football (the other 50% to baseball) growing up.

    But, no, of course the Bucs made the right draft pick … Mariota is NOT even a real QB … he’s a gimmick like Dak … 11 TDs with 12 picks and constantly throwing to wide-open guys out of play action as he has a dominant line and running game … GIMMICK!

    As for Jameis’ pre-game speeches … everyone including the media loved them last year when the team was winning … it’s just who Jameis is …

    ***********************

  58. Piratic Says:

    Jameis, on so many levels, is still just a boy.

    I don’t watch college football, so I didn’t have any preconceived ideas about Jameis as the 2015 draft was approaching.

    The primary take-away regarding his character during that time, for me, was that Jameis wasn’t a bad guy, but rather that he had allowed himself to be influenced by the wrong people. Of course, that didn’t absolve him of his embarrassing behavior up to that point, but it does point to the idea that, at least socially, Jameis is a follower.

    Jameis is paid to play, so technically, he is a professional, but the idea that he has ACTED like a professional is one that faces many examples to the contrary. His desire is unquestioned, but his methods are suspect. He (still!) shows the traits of a blundering novice, albeit a talented one.

    Jameis’ ability to improvise is both beneficial and detrimental. It is a good thing that he is comfortable outside of the pocket, because his inability to routinely hit the open receiver is a major flaw in his game, and his continued tendency to stare down his primary receiver is alarming, to say the least.

    I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt (because of his talent and his desire to be the best) and state that when (not IF) Jameis truly becomes a man, only then will he have an opportunity to become what he (and us!) truly want: An elite level QB that leads the Bucs to multiple championships.

    Make it happen, Jameis. You’re the only one who can.

  59. Pickgrin Says:

    Well at least a couple posters here are not blinded by the stench that losing in 2017 has brought.

    Lord C -pretty much made the points I would have – so in summation:

    Winston’s measurables are up across the board this year (except TDs which granted is perhaps the most important). Completion % is up, QBR is up and interceptions are down.

    Sounds like legit “progress” to me.

    Yea – “but his fumbles are up” say the dislikers. Well, so are the critical breakdowns in pass protection. Go back and take a look at all of Winston’s fumbles this year and you will see that they all involved a critical OLine breakdown and would never have happened if Oline was able to pass protect a bit better.

    Shore up the OL and DL and this team will be racking up Ws.

  60. webster Says:

    @ pickgrin, lord c, tnew, ndog, nflnut

    Leave these fools alone. You cant teach fools because thats what makes them fools. You see they did not want winston in the first place and have set these standards that are unrealistic. Why do you think there are fools crying for mariota and his regression is worse? Brady has looked uncomfortable and shaky in the pocket and lost games because of it (see afc championship against broncos or superbowls against giants as examples). Jameis can get sack 7 times, hit another 6 times and hurried 8 times but they cant understand why he may be a little jittery in the pocket. You see fellas its fools like these on this thread who have the stupid belief that peyton manning was never jittery in the pocket when you got constant pressure on him eventhough the book on manning was he gets happy feet when he is pressured consistently. So let the fools continue to think that what jameis did sunday is only applicable to jameis while the other 31 qbs never overthrow receivers, that those 31 other qbs are the sole reason for the win, and the other 31 qbs did not have any maturing to do and they all were great hall of famers by their 2nd year. It makes them feel good about themselves. You know the saying, you cant argue with fools.

  61. Bucsfanman Says:

    I’m not in the “get rid of Jameis” camp but what I will say is this: He’s still got a lot of work to do. And HIS work ain’t got nothing to do with the o-line problems.
    Does he have tremendous upside? Possibly, but it’s hard to tell right now because on top of the issues HE has, the play-calling has been atrocious as has the play of our o-line.
    I watch our games and cannot for the life of me figure out why we don’t have more offensive chemistry between the WRs and QB. We’ve been running the same ridiculous plays! Something’s missing and it needs to get fixed.
    The offense has been the most disappointing aspect of this 2017 squad, QB included.

  62. Bucsfanman Says:

    I should put the disclaimer out there that I think our defense could be replaced by 11 boxes of General Mills cereal, maybe even Quaker Oats, because we’re afraid of QBs.
    By accident we should have more QB sacks!

  63. Son of Kobe Faker Says:

    You guys putting too much pressure on a 23 year old kid

    The QB position is the toughest position to be efficient in all sports….probably only 10 people in the world right now can be considered elite in that position

    ITS COACHING STUPID

    check the qualifications of our frat boys Barkanian, monken and koetter

    which young NFL QB did they ever work with to be any good

    Jamesis mechanics and mental development has regressed/stalled/…sucks

    every QB even the scubs drops back smoothly but jameis footwork is so tight and robotic

    its the scheme. look at goff. you need the short passing game and to get the ball out of jameis hands fast

    the scheme has to consist of slants and crossing patterns that koetter never uses

    Grudog is coming…and he always has a growl

    Son of Kobe Faker

  64. mark2001 Says:

    Pickgrin…so Fitz admitted played as well as Jameis has in the games he has started. So are you saying that Fitz and Jameis are of the same caliber? I don’t think so. Jameis has a great deal of potential….but he needs a coach that will demand excellence and strive for the utmost consistency. Koetter might be trying, but it isn’t working very well. Maybe a new coach will take Jameis to the next level.

  65. mark2001 Says:

    admittedly…keyboard problem obviously.

  66. not there yet Says:

    These are easily correctable and things a real coach would call Winston out about things a real head coach would challenge Winston about. It’s foolish to say give the qb coach and Koetter another year to develop Winston. If this is the prize possession of your organization and your last name is Glazer, can you say this coach is doing a good job with him. He’s not regressing or progressing which says he’s doing it all in his own

  67. Bob in Valrico Says:

    No doubt in my mind that Koetter has been trying to coach the turnovers, and
    Bad decisions out of Jameis. One would think that sitting for two games would
    inspire Jameis to play better. But Jameis reverts to old habits, not taking the sack,
    not setting up to pass properly, and throwing into coverage. If a player is going to keep repeating the same mistakes ,he is the only one that is accountable.
    Jameis shou;ld be more talented than Fitz ,but Fitz hasn’t made plays that hurt the team.Love to see jameis play up to his potential,limit his mistakes,and complete
    passes deep to DJAX,Evans and Godwin.
    The only way iI see left to reach Jameis, on both Turnovers and forced passes
    is to sit Jameis and let him watch when he is healthy. These tendencies seem to be very hard to break for Jameis and letting keep going out there and doing
    it again and again will get you fired.

  68. America's Commenter Says:

    Winston hasn’t improved since his bonehead Pick-6 to start his career. He’s as good as he’s ever going to get, essentially Trent Dilfer 2.0. Meanwhile, in Tennessee …

 

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