“I Think It Was A Ploy By The Glazers”
November 17th, 2017
“Ed, which one of your brothers hatched this idea, anyway?”
You better break out the boots because this is heading into some really deep Twilight Zone-type ish.
The Chucky-to-the-Bucs chatter just won’t stop from the national sports talking heads and it seems like a growing monster. For every talking head that stokes the fire that Chucky will return to the Bucs, it has to be one-upped with new, more salacious drama and backroom intrigue.
So it will be awfully hard to top what former Bucs quarterback Chris Simms peddled recently on the “Simms & Lefkoe Podcast” hosted on Bleacher Report.
There, Simms claimed that Chucky returning to the Bucs is a “75/25” proposition. But wait, there is more!
Simms, who claims he tapped into his sources in and around the Bucs, stated bringing Chucky back has been a months-long, well-orchestrated scheme by Team Glazer who is just waiting for the right time to announce Chucky as the new head coach.
And Simms implied that winning Bucs coach Dirk Koetter smelled something fishy back in August if not before.
“I have made some calls,” Simms said. “I just think from what I have heard from people who are around that organization, that it is real. I will even go back into this: With the “Hard Knocks” and [Chucky] being around training camp, I heard Dirk Koetter did not want him around, really.
“I think [Chucky to the Bucs] is a legitimate option that is on the table. I think [Chucky spending a day at One Buc Palace during training camp] was a ploy by the Glazers to see if Gruden and Jameis could gel together. And Jon isn’t going anywhere where there isn’t a quarterback already in place.”
First off, as we all saw on “Hard Knocks,” did it appear that Koetter had any angst with Chucky being around? Hell, Koetter invited Chucky into his office for a long sitdown to talk ball and to go over one of Chucky’s old playbooks. Koetter even invited Chucky to speak with the team. That sure doesn’t sound like Koetter wanted zero to do with Chucky. Koetter went out of his way to embrace Chucky and to try to glean wisdom from him.
Now if all of this is remotely true, that is some wild bordering on outrageous stuff right there from Simms. To make his point even juicier, Simms told a story that Joe sort of heard before in a roundabout way, but there is virtually no way of verifying it, which leads Joe to believe Simms may be talking to Chucky.
Simms stated on that fateful Friday afternoon in January 2009, when Chucky was fired, Team Glazer questioned Chucky on his quarterback moves in his end-of-season interview with Team Glazer. Chucky got all huffy and indignant and, per Simms, told Team Glazer if they didn’t like him, to fire him.
Never a good idea to back the guys who sign your paychecks into a corner.
You can hear Simms discuss the Chucky rumors at the 16:00 mark of the podcast in the link above.
Of course, there is one huge, major, Jeff Goldblum-sized fly in the ointment with everything that Simms said about Chucky and the Bucs.
There’s no opening.
November 17th, 2017 at 7:07 am
Whatever truth might be attached to this crazy conspiracy theory, Simms has taken it way too far. Does Simms also think the moon landings were faked or there was never a holocaust?
November 17th, 2017 at 7:08 am
We need an offensive genius to get the best out of our personnel. And bring in Dave Gettlemen to build our Defense and Offensive lines up
November 17th, 2017 at 7:18 am
@buc nc
that would be my top option but pretty sure those 2 alpha egos wont be able to gel
think gettleman is heading back to the giants
November 17th, 2017 at 7:18 am
Well based on his record as the Bucs head coach we can expect a lot of mediocre seasons and an offense that ranked about 20th in the league on average.
November 17th, 2017 at 7:22 am
Would the guy outright lie about something like that? Or is he just getting some bad info? Either way… what coach has ever been fired by a team, then rehired in the same capacity a decade later??? I smell drama that is intended to distract.
November 17th, 2017 at 7:26 am
Lookup the rankings of Chucky’s offenses while he was in Tampa:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?conference=ALL&offensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&season=2002&seasonType=REG&experience=&tabSeq=2&role=TM
November 17th, 2017 at 7:28 am
No disrespect to the media Joe…….but Chris Simms is an idiot.
………and this isn’t the first time Chris Simms has spouted off stupid stuff from his mouth that makes absolutely no sense.
The Glazers cannot be that dumb and stupid thinking they’re trying to capture magic in a bottle by re-hashing the past.
The Glazers should’ve learned their lesson from the Lovie experiment…….it failed, they got egg on their face and they don’t want to re-live another retread from the past either.
I simply don’t buy it.
November 17th, 2017 at 7:30 am
I recall being told Hard Knocks was full of fake news. Koetter liking Chucky sniffing around his showcased training camp seems awfully presumptuous. I sure as hell don’t believe it. Any way to verify Koetter made all those invites personally? I’d bet ownership and HBO productions had a say in Koetter’s hospitality.
November 17th, 2017 at 7:36 am
Ugh…….
November 17th, 2017 at 7:36 am
Either he believes it to be true or he trusts his sources enough to run with it regardless. And the source wants this info out there. If Gru himself IS the source, this added with some of what Ira said yesterday does nothing to quell the notion that the guy wants to coach again. Here.
No disrespect to Dirk Koetter, but compare the resumes. Jon Gruden won a super bowl at 41? Dirk Koetter got fired from Arizona State at 47. We’re comparing hamburger to steak here. Dirk may be a fine hamburger, but he’s still just a hamburger. Jameis doesn’t need to eat hamburger, he needs to eat steak. And Ws.
November 17th, 2017 at 7:42 am
Gerald McRuud Says:
November 17th, 2017 at 7:36 am
…………..”Jameis doesn’t need to eat hamburger, he needs to eat steak. And Ws.”
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Jameis would love to lick and eat his fingers more but he’s too busy over-throwing receivers and chucking up interceptions to double/triple covered receivers.
November 17th, 2017 at 7:45 am
If it makes no sense or is down right stupid you can guarasntee a ghlazer clown is involved… they have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can not run a sports franchise. The onfield results prove it. Year in and year out thier actions scream incompetence… there is no hope for bucs
November 17th, 2017 at 7:53 am
Absolutely amazing how the 1st QB in NFL history to throw for 4k yards in each of his 1st two years is also the most inaccurate QB in NFL history, according to some.
Let me try. I declare Ezekiel Elliot to be the slowest RB i’ve ever seen. He got fat this year. Probably got full on Ws last year. His go to celebration is literally an eating motion.
There we go, this is fun.
November 17th, 2017 at 8:02 am
I love Gruden he brought us a super bowl.. But what I find funny is that everyone that is calling for Koetters head because they think the offense has done poorly… At what point in Grudens buc tenure did he have anywhere near the numbers that we have even now? Yeah we can say we aren’t big stat guys and make some smart comment but facts are facts. Statistically Koetters offenses have been better then Grudens.. Period.
November 17th, 2017 at 8:02 am
*Offense Total Yard Ranking
OC – Eagles
• 1996 PHI OC – 4th QB’s – Ty Detmer/Rodney Peete
• 1997 PHI OC – 5th QB’s – Ty Detmer/Rodney Peete/Bobby Hoying
HC – Raiders
• 1999 OAK HC – 5th QB’s – Rich Gannon
• 2000 OAK HC – 6th QB’s – Rich Gannon
• 2001 OAK HC – 7th QB’s – Rich Gannon
HC – Buccaneers
• 2003 TAM HC – 10th QB’s – Brad Johnson
• 2008 TAM HC – 14th QB’s – Jeff Garcia/ Brian Griese
• 2007 TAM HC – 18th QB’s – Jeff Garcia/ Brian Griese
*Career Highlights
OC Eagles
• 1996 – Lost Wild Card 0-14 vs. San Francisco 49ers
HC Raiders
• 2000 – Lost Conference Championship 3-16 vs. Baltimore Ravens
• 2001 – Lost Divisional Round 13-16 vs. New England Patriots
HC Buccaneers
• 2002 – Won Super Bowl 48-21 vs. Oakland Raiders
• 2005 – Lost Wild Card 10-17 vs. Washington Redskins
• 2007 – Lost Wild Card 14-24 vs. New York Giants
November 17th, 2017 at 8:04 am
I guess this is the life of a losing coach and that means Rex Ryan wanted m Smith job too. I think the Joe’s do a serious copy and paste job on these articles because I don’t think anyone understands why anyone with a losing record is called a winning head coach but yet calls Ray Jay “den of depression”.
I’d be fine with any coach replacing Dirk at this point but damn Dirk beat somewhat with a winning record so the media can shut up about it already. If we get beat by the dolphins which is possible since Dirk is so soft them I’ll be convinced he’s done
November 17th, 2017 at 8:05 am
Nice 4 pick performance from the fragile mariota last night… and my god did you see that overthrow in secind qtr… where are the ignorant and blind jameis bashers aka mariota nuthuggers at this fine morning
November 17th, 2017 at 8:08 am
The Glazer’s don’t wanna continuity they want to get into the playoffs and it’s plain to see Dirk is too timid to be that guy, no wonder lovie Smith liked him as coordinator, he’ll never take chances and always looking at stats and odds of risky plays, doesn’t say to me he believes in his players
November 17th, 2017 at 8:14 am
Those marioto nuthuggers hopped on the wentz train…they always perferred that skin tone
November 17th, 2017 at 8:17 am
Gruden’ Starters
• Chris Simms – 3rd round (97th overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft.
• Brian Griese – 3rd round (91st overall) of the 1998 NFL Draft.
• Bobby Hoying – 3rd round (85th overall) of the 1996 NFL Draft.
• Rich Gannon – 4th round (98th overall) of the 1987 NFL Draft.
• Bruce Gradkowski – 6th round (194th overall) of the 2006 NFL Draft.
• Rodney Peete – 6th round (141st overall) of the 1989 NFL Draft.
• Ty Detmer – 9th round (230th overall) of the 1992 NFL Draft.
• Brad Johnson – 9th round (227th overall) of the 1992 NFL Draft.
• Jeff Garcia – UDFA
Note: Gannon was drafted as a running back/receiver by New England
November 17th, 2017 at 8:19 am
Koetter doesnt have the temperment and emotion as HC….NO EMOTION JEB BUSH
WE ARE GOING 4-12
THATS ALL U NEED TO KNOW
November 17th, 2017 at 8:34 am
Kobe
Not sure its skin color that being said it is definetly related to the failed dungy years and dominics choirboy team captain philosophy…. taking soft mentally weak good guys over talented hard nose football players is exactly why bucs have spent over a decade as laughingstock… those two failures dungy & dominic brainwashed the ignorant soft fanbase that nice guys win… nothing could be further from truth. Nice guys finish last while winners win and get the hotties
November 17th, 2017 at 8:36 am
Starting to get the feeling Dirk is toast. Too much smoke around this fire. The whole thing seems to be getting to Dirk. Just speculating of course…
November 17th, 2017 at 8:38 am
I listened to Ira’s podcast and I tend to agree with you Joe in regards to Jon Gruden not doing Dirk Koetter any favors. You’re right, Gruden could very easily quell these rumors by coming out and saying the Bucs have a head coach. During Gruden’s tenure he’d say one thing and do another. His silence indicates he’s not much different today than 15 years ago especially after all the nice things he was saying about Koetter and Licht.
Gruden will never be a legendary coach like Tom Landry, Bill Belichick, or Vince Lombardi which means at some point if he becomes the Bucs next coach he will be fired. The Bucs will look pathetic if they end up firing a coach they have in the Ring of Honor.
November 17th, 2017 at 8:52 am
If another man was living in your house, the one you were kicked out of in January 2009 for no good reason, would you do that man any favors? Especially if you consider yourself better than him.
There are few coaches Jon Gruden would tell you are better than him, if any. Dirk ain’t one. For Gruden to “fully support” Dirk here and now — why? Support 3-6 when you were fired after 9-3? Really?
November 17th, 2017 at 8:53 am
Two thoughts here….first I agree with Waterboy and Lakeland and all those who have posted the reality of Chucky’s tenure here after the SB. Plus remember in the NFL you’re hired to be fired and as Tom Edrington points out how is going to look when we fire a coach in our Ring of Honor?
I love Chucky. Brought us a SB. I do not want to change coaches but if we must…..NO CHUCKY PLEASE!!!
Second thought…we approach this in an all or nothing manner…that is to say are all of Simms details right or wrong…reality might suggest something in the middle…reality might be that it’s all crap.
But if ANY of Simms reporting is true we are truly hosed. You all can stop blaming Koetter…Smitty…#3…GMC…the Bucs cheerleaders for our rough season. It’s TOTALLY ON THE GLAZERS. In fact I’ve lost all patience with the Glazers. They should IMMEDIATELY put an end to all of this crap and call a press conference announcing that yes they’re unhappy with ’17 results but they want to give the trio…Licht..Koetter and Smitty one more year to prove themselves…IE…notice of disappointment and a warning but TOTAL backing for this year.
This is getting so freaking unfair to Koetter I’m disgusted. He’s supposed to fire up a team with a questionable tradition dating back to Chucky and beyond while also listening to daily rumors he’s on the way out. How do players respond to a neutered coach on his way out…might as well take DK’s nuttsack and rip it off!!!!!
If ANY part of Simms story is true then we can all stop with the analsyis…we’re just glossing over symptoms…coaching…QB play..GMC etc. Here is the REALITY!!! If this crap is true we know for a FACT that the problem is the GLAZERS!!!!
November 17th, 2017 at 8:54 am
Yeah, Joe, this is so deep I wear boots to bed. Team Glazer is NEVER one for leaks, and they would NEVER do something like Simms said, and they would NEVER tell anyone in the building such a dumb plan…because it ain’t there. Keep in mind, three short months ago, the Bucs were a 9-7 team that just added major pieces. Chucky would visit anyway, as he does often…and of course he’s going to show up for Hard Knocks. As for seeing if Chucky and Jameis gel? Dumbest assertion I ever heard. Phil Simms has clearly lost his mind.
November 17th, 2017 at 8:55 am
TIME TO PUT THIS MANURE TO REST GLAZERS!!!!
November 17th, 2017 at 8:58 am
Welcome Back Koetter acted like Grudawg wasn’t even in the room the whole time he was speaking so try again.
November 17th, 2017 at 9:01 am
I wholeheartedly agree with you StPeteBucsFan.
November 17th, 2017 at 9:16 am
I tell you one thing Gruden wouldn’t do and that is keep throwing 40 yard passes when your qb is more money with the 15-20 yard range. He would run more screens crossing routes and seams with the likes of DJax OJ Brate Evans and Hump. The fact Fameis is more seasoned and experienced bodes well. Gruden sucks at talent evaluation and qb nurturing but a master of disguise and maximizing good talent when he has it. Fameis would learn alot more from him than Koetter. Look what he did with Brad Johnson. Fameis has the Bulls heart. You guys don’t know what you’re talking about
November 17th, 2017 at 9:31 am
If Gruden is a master can someone explain his LOSING record as a BUC’s coach after the SB? In his six years after the SB he was 45-51!!!! Geez could we find a coach to perhaps get us to .500?
November 17th, 2017 at 9:47 am
Gruden will not be back with this team. Btw, change the disgusting uniforms back to orange and white. Much better look.
November 17th, 2017 at 9:49 am
D-Rome:
Thanks.
Roy:
It is Chris Simms, the son. Not Phil Simms, the father.
November 17th, 2017 at 9:51 am
St Pete-someone answered that earlier with a list of the QBs he had (probably his choice though). I’m not on the Gruden bandwagon, enough with the re-treads, but I am on the fire Koetter bandwagon. He could have put these rumors to rest by having his teams ready to play this season and instead he “played nice” in training camp and it has thus far ruined the season. 2 years in a row we have sucked coming out of the preseason. We may put a run together again but it will not be enough. I like Dirk but he sucks as a HC and truly, he sucks as a play caller as well. His buddy Mike Smith is actually the one that will probably cost them both their jobs because homeboy doesn’t blitz for the first 8 games of the season, then he finds his groove. I bet he stops being aggressive again in the next few weeks, a tiger cannot change his stripes so to speak.
November 17th, 2017 at 9:52 am
Simms is about as in the know as I am, except with one less spleen.
November 17th, 2017 at 9:54 am
the only thing that I think is true is:
we’ll be getting a new coach at the end of the season….simple as that….
i remember last year that mccadoo from the giants didn’t like coughlin still poking around the team…..he told the front office and they put a end to it….coughlin went on about his way…..
the combination of the glazers being quite as well as gruden leads me to believe that something may be in the works….gruden has already come out and say no to the ten opening….but he hasn’t said anything about the nfl….
IMO…it is what it is at this point….dirk has made his bed and now he has to sleep in it…..he brought this situation upon himself…..no reason why this team should be in this position…..GO BUCS!!!!
November 17th, 2017 at 9:59 am
@REALIST
NO COMMENT?
dirk is in hot water….no doubt about that…..
as @jjbucfan said, im not totally on the hire gruden train, but I am on the fire dirk train….GO BUCS!!!!
November 17th, 2017 at 10:01 am
St Pete, just read your previous post again and I couldn’t disagree more. I liked the Koetter hire as much as the next guy, it was the right the move at the time and he deserved the chance. This year is a repeat of last year, 2016 2.0. Come out with all the promise in the world lay 6 eggs in the first 9 games and try to play catch up. I’ll say it again Dirk has coached the Jameis out of Jameis (with all good intentions I believe, but he should have left him alone- his mechanics, footwork everything). Jim Furyk’s first coach probably saw his swing and was like WTF? Then Furyk shoots 66 and the coach probably said yeah I can probably make you more consistent, but why- you can be successful with that jacked up back-breaker of a swing so just be yourself- you won’t win every tournament but you’ll win your fair share (at least that is how I imagine it went, LOL).
November 17th, 2017 at 10:05 am
I don’t buy this at all.
First, Chris Simms has a personal grudge against the Bucs. So does his father.
Second, he’s trying to generate interest…just like Rick Stroud does. Make stuff up, attribute it to ‘people I have spoken to’ and get national coverage as a result.
Total sham.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:14 am
Beating the Jets this past Sunday was no remarkable accomplishment. Beating the Dolphins will not be a major accomplishment as well. I’m curious to see how we hold up on the O-line against them. We will see how he holds up when the schedule gets tough. I like Koetter but I do not believe he’s cut out long term and it is a business for the Glazers so seeing Gruden on the sidelines would bring people back to Raymond James. Certainly everyone here in Knoxville would love to have Gruden and I have my own reservations about hiring him especially at the college level. Personally I think he has had the time to sit back and understand what went wrong in Tampa the first go around. Stayed close to the game, City, people within the organization, and he clearly cares about his career at the Bucs. The time he has had to sit back and learn has made him reevaluate the way he drafts and how he handles personnel will make him better at this time in his life. It is proven recently new hires can win quick and he certainly is capable on taking us back where we belong. Would love to have that fire and passion back. You can feel it when he talks about the Bucs. Every game he has broadcasted for us he reminisces on his time coaching the Bucs. There was a lot of negatives but lots of positives in his Tenure. Losing all those draft picks to the raiders and cash. Also with a high priced Defense who was aging and free agency didn’t help him out building depth or a legitimate offense threat. When Kiffen left it set back the whole team. Later on he did have very bad drafts. RIP Gaines Adams but it was a reach, Micheal Clayton as well. Couldn’t develop a QB but didn’t have much to work with as he was plugging in holes everywhere else. He won with an against Garcia and Griese. Simms as well. Who knows what he would be capable of with this talent and young Defense. How will he draft? Who does he bring in to coach the Defense? Does he take total control of the front office or will a GM be in place? I’d love to see.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:15 am
@StPeteBucsFan
The way I see it, Koetter is as good or better than anyone else we can get. I truly think that the Bucs need to stay with Koetter and develop consistency…both in games and in the organization.
Many fans think along the lines of trying something new until you find something that works.
I look at the organizations that have lasting success…and every one of them stick with coaches and staff that have a good plan and build a good team. They don’t give up on them after a losing season, and it usually pays off.
The concern I have here is if the Glazers give up on Koetter, no good coach will want to work for them because they don’t give any coaches enough time to get the job done.
Gruden is smart enough to see this too, so I doubt he would ever work for them again.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:18 am
I’ve said it a zillion times, The Bucs will not reach the promise land with Koetter and Smitty. It just won’t happen. Now whether Gruden is the best fit? I don’t know. But I prefer his style over Koetters. The coaches for our Bucs look like Zombies on the sidelines. I don’t see fire from them or the players…except Jameis. jameis has sponged up all Koetter can offer him. And Smitty’s Defenses will be up and down, just as they were in ATL. Move on now before we are just stuck in the nuck with them, EVEYBODY KNOWS……………….
November 17th, 2017 at 10:19 am
Dirk Koetter has challenged Jameis to help him grow. Now, some might say “Let Jameis be Jameis”. But if Koetter does that, Jameis will never get better.
These years are the growing pains years. The more Jameis is challenged, the quicker he will grow into an elite QB. To want otherwise is to settle.
The downside is that while being challenged to do new things, Jameis is going to screw up until he gets them right. Nature of the beast.
I’m willing to put up with it because I see the forest thru the trees.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:22 am
Simms needs to get tested for CTE
November 17th, 2017 at 10:25 am
Doolnutts- at what point in Grudens tenure did he have 1/4 the talent on offense that is here now. Brad Johnson Garcia Griese mike Pittman earnest graham Galloway. Jurevixious. Com one
November 17th, 2017 at 10:26 am
i read his body language as annoyed but tolerant when i watched hard knocks. he didn’t seem to love having him in the QB room for that “stay in the channel” scene, and there was a flatness to his expression when he made the “he doesn’t miss ball, does he?” sarcastic comment
i think koetter was basically trying to be a good employee and was very accomodating to a visit orchestrated by the Glazers
Chucky was walking around One Buc dressed like a head coach of the bucs and addressing the team like a head coach of the bucs. if i were the actual head coach of the bucs there’s no way that would not get on my radar a little bit
November 17th, 2017 at 10:34 am
the gruden talk is a shiny distraction, but i think if the bucs go .500 against pretty good competition in the back half, you let these guys prove they learned something from this regression year. some coaches develop themselves and their teams the way coaches like Ron Rivera and Jason Garrett have developed. Neither has won a superbowl, but both have their teams consistently towards the top of the conference after an inconsistent first few seasons that had their fans calling for a new guy
Unlike 2011, 2013, and 2014-15 where a coaching staff was clearly in over its head, my feeling is that this is more of a 1998 season, where a good young team is figuring out that it takes more than being good and young to win. I think players, coaches, and front office could benefit from the opportunity to refelect and prove they can get better from doing so.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:39 am
Broy34isExcitedForGruden+Jameis Says
“…at what point in Grudens tenure did he have 1/4 the talent on offense that is here now. Brad Johnson Garcia Griese mike Pittman earnest graham Galloway. Jurevixious. Com one”
Brad Johnson was solid in those years. Reliable.
Joey Galloway was a great WR.
Joe Jurevicius was a very good WR.
You are leaving out Keyshawn Johnson, Ike Hilliard, Mike Alstott, Brad Culpepper, and a whole bunch of others.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:45 am
Bonzai- I disagree, Atlanta did not let Favre be Favre- couldn’t get on the field. Peyton be Peyton etc. It took coaches that believed in the player and in believed that the their talent will overcome their mistakes. No one believed Favre would become great, no one after 2 1/2 year, thought Manning would be great- if anyone says that-they are lying. /shoot Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for years. Jameis has to learn his limitations on his own- not because Dirk says so. This is a totally bogus idea. Young QB’s will make mistakes, shoot young players in general… Adrian Peterson was a fumbler, Tiki Barber was a fumbler. It just takes time. Jameis dominated every level of competition he ever played, undefeated in high school, 29-1 at FSU. Now that he has “weapons”, you want him to become someone else. Not smart! IMO. He is thinking too much now because Koetter is in his head. He is slower to release the ball or he is getting rid of it too soon. He isn’t running anymore, just standing in the pocket and when flushed he is trying to make the throw instead of taking off. That is all Koetter in his head- let the kid play (just slide if you run Jameis, please). Jameis throws better on the run, we don’t roll him out, Koetter keeps trying to tell us Jameis can’t do QB sneaks but his game film from FSU says otherwise, Koetter doesn’t throw screens to the running backs to slow the pass rush (just the WRs which is such a more dangerous play). Koetter just figured out in game 9 that D Jax can catch a 5-10 yard pass and be a threat to take it all the way. High School stuff that fans and trolls on JBF have pointed out since the preseason. Not a fan of Koetter anymore, sorry.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:51 am
Tmax…Supersam and the Mariota nuthuggers only show up when MM has a good game and JW has a bad one. It’s a sad, sad existence to be a Bucs fan and a Mariota nuthugger at the same time. Sad.
November 17th, 2017 at 11:02 am
If the Bucs fire Dirk Koetter and hire Jon Gruden
5th Head Coach in 8 seasons
7th Offensive Coordinator in 8 seasons
7th Defensive Coordinator in 8 seasons
With this high turnover rate
No intelligent person would want to come here
New regimes bring in their own players
They get rid of good,quality players
The franchise continue to suck
November 17th, 2017 at 11:12 am
If I’m a NFL free agent
I’m trying to get to a stable franchise
I would avoid the dysfunctional franchises
Teams like the Browns, Bucs has to overpay for free agents
Even rookies avoid them like the plague
Free agents only come to Tampa for the money
November 17th, 2017 at 11:20 am
@JJBUC
CANT HAVE SAID IT BETTER!!!!
dirk is in his head in the worse way possible….Winston looked nothing like this in 2015….he was making quick decisions….running when needed to….dirk has hampered his development IMO….GO BUCS!!!!
November 17th, 2017 at 12:03 pm
Jiminy Christmas Joe! It aint happening fellows. Knoxville Bound!! 11/28/17
November 17th, 2017 at 12:08 pm
I’m just not buying it. This is the kind of conspiracy BS you expect to hear from Alex Jones or Faux News. No way something like this would get leaked out either. And why would the Glazwrs have a plan in place since training camp, if they had just come off the first winning season in 6 years? Sorry, this just can’t be true. Maybe Koetter will be gone, but not for chucky.
A little bit of facts about chucky- OMG it’s an unbelievable repost:
unbelievable Says:
November 17th, 2017 at 11:58 am
He brought us to the promised land in year 1, and then never even came close again. Not a single playoff win the rest of his career. Wouldn’t develop a quarterback (or young players at any position really). Offense was always mediocre And our drafts were crap!
This is the guy who passed on Aaron Rodgers to take a running back.
My, how time makes the heart grow fonder.
November 17th, 2017 at 12:22 pm
Koetter should be scared as hell
November 17th, 2017 at 12:34 pm
LUVMYBUCS Says:
November 17th, 2017 at 8:17 am
Gruden’ Starters
• Chris Simms – 3rd round (97th overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft.
• Brian Griese – 3rd round (91st overall) of the 1998 NFL Draft.
• Bobby Hoying – 3rd round (85th overall) of the 1996 NFL Draft.
• Rich Gannon – 4th round (98th overall) of the 1987 NFL Draft.
• Bruce Gradkowski – 6th round (194th overall) of the 2006 NFL Draft.
• Rodney Peete – 6th round (141st overall) of the 1989 NFL Draft.
• Ty Detmer – 9th round (230th overall) of the 1992 NFL Draft.
• Brad Johnson – 9th round (227th overall) of the 1992 NFL Draft.
• Jeff Garcia – UDFA
Note: Gannon was drafted as a running back/receiver by New England
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Pretty sure Gannon was drafted as a safety…
November 17th, 2017 at 12:40 pm
Unbelievable: 23 coaches past on Aaron Rodgers and all 23 regret it. You right about that and no playoff wins was terrible. Hope college will be better!
November 17th, 2017 at 1:24 pm
@jjbucfan
Are you saying that none of those QBs were challenged to learn and accomplish more things then they did in college by their coaches? That they were all self taught?
Come on now. You know it doesn’t work that way.
November 17th, 2017 at 1:26 pm
The simple truth is this: Most anyone who decided they don’t like Jameis will NEVER like Jameis. They will always find ways to justify their opinions.
And the same can be applied to people who dislike Koetter.
Or Licht.
November 17th, 2017 at 1:40 pm
If the Glazers allow Koetter to dangle in the wind and we finish well winning say 5 of our last seven…at the end of the year if the Glazers come to DK to keep him for another year I would tell the Glazers to pound salt up their rectums.
I mean Koetter stopped a five game season skid of losing records. And that’s only because of Raheem’s smoke and mirrors ten win season…the year before a three win season.
This franchise has sucked for awhile now. Koetter did not create that.
I’m not an unequivocal supporter of DK I simply believes he deserves one more year. I do NOT believe asking ANY coach to turn things around and then tie his hands behind his back is fair.
How is Koetter supposed to motivate players who believe he’s gone at the end of the year. At 3-6 we’re already in gross danger that the players are looking to next year….let them believe that next year they’ll be playing for another years with daily chatter like the past few weeks and the locker room is GONE through no fault of Koetters! If the players believe he’s a dead man walking who would bother to pay attention to him?
November 17th, 2017 at 1:43 pm
Brandon
Are you saying Gruden has NO choice in his QB’s and was forced to play all those QB’s you listed. Your list comprises more than a decade of play…was Chucky unable to find a college QB worthy of a higher draft pick during all that time?
November 17th, 2017 at 2:14 pm
No playoffs = no Koetter.
November 17th, 2017 at 2:45 pm
Rocky Top Bound! 11/28
November 17th, 2017 at 3:08 pm
Forget winter…#GrudenIsComing, #BringBackGruden.
November 17th, 2017 at 10:19 pm
If this team was 6-3 there would be no Chucky talk.
But that’s not the case.