Adrian Clayborn, Hysteria, Nonsense & Reality
November 13th, 2017
Loafer revives
Bucs fans who love the drama have been freaking out for the last 16 hours or so because ex-Buc defensive end Adrian Clayborn racked up six sacks for the Falcons yesterday.
Joe understands the pain, but too many fans are taking this way over the top and pointing fingers at general manager Jason Licht for no good reason.
Clayborn was not a Michael Bennett situation, who we all know was allowed to walk from One Buc Palace for no good reason after the 2012 season. What a crime against Bucs fans and good sense that was. And this isn’t a Donald Penn situation, who ridiculously was cut after the 2013 season. And Clayborn is no Darrelle Revis debacle. Joe still can’t believe defensive guru Lovie Smith wanted no part of Revis, then BS’d fans about his intentions before cutting Revis. And then Revis turns in two Pro Bowl seasons for two different teams and grabs a Super Bowl ring.
Only the Bucs.
But the Clayborn thing is a different animal.
Clayborn had a stout rookie season at right defensive end for a dismal 2011 Bucs team. Then he came back and was playing poorly before blowing his knee out early in the 2012 season. In 2013, Clayborn clearly wasn’t the same physically but gutted out a 16-game, 5 1/2-sacks season.
In 2014, Clayborn surprised Lovie in training camp and was poised to get a lot of playing time, but he tore a bicep on opening day and that ended his Bucs rookie contract.
What were the Bucs supposed to do, realistically bank on the guy in 2015? That’s when Clayborn signed with the Falcons as a fattened up defensive tackle.
He wasn’t very good as a part-time starter in 2015. Last year, he was better, 4 1/2 sacks before a late-season injury. And yesterday he blew up with the six sacks against the backup Cowboys tackle, though one sack was freakish after Clayborn dropped back in coverage.
Before yesterday, Clayborn was rumored to be on the Falcons trading block. And yes, Joe might be the only guy who can take credit for suggesting the Bucs go after him last month. Listeners of the Ira Kaufman Podcast heard that.
So Clayborn had a great day. Big deal. Good for him.
To those screaming in agony about it. Joe would guarantee those same people would be screaming at the Bucs regime if they signed Clayborn in free agency this offseason.
Clayborn will be best remembered around these parts for two reasons. First, Raheem Morris called him “BoyDog,” as in he’s half man and half canine. Second, Clayborn loafed so badly against the Bucs in 2015, Gerald McCoy even called him out and it became a big story in Atlanta.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:37 am
LOL!!!!!!!! the sheep crying over adrian slowborn!!!!!!!!!! they are only lashing out at the front office when they see someone with Bucs ties make some sort of stat!!!!!!!!!
It was against the Backup Guard that was playing Left Tackle!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!! The sheep are hilarious and soooo predictable!!!!!!!
And you are wrong Joe!!!!!! He is remembered for a late hit on Drew Brees and the sheep called him a beast!!!!! And that if the secondary could cover for 1/2 a second more that he would explode!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 13th, 2017 at 10:43 am
The Bucs made the right decision on Clayborn. This shouldn’t even be a discussion by any Bucs fan.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:43 am
So many exclamation points…
November 13th, 2017 at 10:44 am
It’s just the sheer damn luck that our draft picks and temporary FAs either 1) injure themselves too often or 2) just get on the wrong side of new coaches taking over and then those good players flee to places where they win SB rings or make the playoffs on a regular basis.
Bennett, Talib, Penn, Blount… we lose these guys at the primes of their careers and then we wallow in 4-12 disasters that create more coaching turnover.
I think the last time we had a coach come in who DIDN’T cut good players out of pique or due to changes in schemes was Dungy. I don’t recall him kicking guys like Nickerson or Dilfer or Sapp to the curb all because they might not have fit his style.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:46 am
BucFanFromOH Says:
November 13th, 2017 at 10:43 am
So many exclamation points…
So Many periods, And I am not talking about your sentence structure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 13th, 2017 at 10:48 am
A couple things to remember in the game for Clayborn. The Cowboys were without their starting left tackle, their pro bowl running back, and we’re playing from behind. What this shows is the Cowboys are not a good pass first team especially without Tyron Smith. I will guess Clayborn after getting 6 in one game finished the year with 9. Fluke game in a perfect situation for him to get sacks.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:49 am
Adrian Clayborn sucks and was always injured. It was a good move cutting him.
And one good game does not change that.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:50 am
yeah don’t care, but holy crap did you see Beckwith drop his shoulder on his sack? That was Matthis-esk. He can teach Yawn a few moves next year. Bravo on Smitty dialing up those blitzes. Forget boy dog move on Joe.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:52 am
I agree it wasn’t a major loss but it does but it follows our theme of letting decent players walk right out the door…. Clayborn as you said was not a major hit. But I still can’t stand watching Talib, Penn, Bennett and others on other teams doing well. It is not like we haven’t had the cap space to keep these guys around… It drives me crazy? Imagine if these guys were still on this team?
November 13th, 2017 at 10:52 am
I couldn’t remember who was the one that was the Tmax of Adrian Clayborn. Luckily Bucs Realist reminded me lol.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:55 am
Please don’t include Blount and Talib with Bennett and Penn.
Blount and Talib ran themselves out of town. Talib even told Joe that to his face. Bennett and Penn were braindead moves this team still has not recovered from.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:57 am
Talib could have stayed, should have stayed. Another great pick down the drain. What a waste.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:57 am
derrickbrooksforGM Says:
November 13th, 2017 at 10:50 am
yeah don’t care, but holy crap did you see Beckwith drop his shoulder on his sack? That was Matthis-esk. He can teach Yawn a few moves next year. Bravo on Smitty dialing up those blitzes. Forget boy dog move on Joe.
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The 3-3-5 maybe be our best def package. Our lbs maybe be the best in the league. And Ira should start practicing his pitch for LVD in the hof.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:58 am
Three of those sacks should have be negated, ref’s failed to call face masks on those sacks.
November 13th, 2017 at 10:58 am
All I can imagine is you angrily yelling/mashing at your keys so hard you have to buy a new keyboard once a week. Literally, 2 post and 135 of them?
November 13th, 2017 at 11:00 am
I DO BELIEVE CLAYBORN WANTED OUT OF TAMPA AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WAS NOT TO PERFORM ON THE FIELD…SO TAMPA WOULD CUT HIM OR TRADE HIM…….
November 13th, 2017 at 11:08 am
Congrats to Clayborn on his amazing game. Now hopefully it’s out of his system and ATL loses out.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:24 am
Don’t care that much what Clayborn did yesterday. As Joe said “Big deal. Good for him.” Do care a lot though what he does against the Bucs when we play the Falcons on Nov 26th & Dec 18th. Hopefully it’s nothing. But no Joe, Clayborn wasn’t the answer to our DE woes when he was with us and he won’t be now.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:26 am
DBag55 Says:
November 13th, 2017 at 10:57 am
derrickbrooksforGM Says:
November 13th, 2017 at 10:50 am
yeah don’t care, but holy crap did you see Beckwith drop his shoulder on his sack? That was Matthis-esk. He can teach Yawn a few moves next year. Bravo on Smitty dialing up those blitzes. Forget boy dog move on Joe.
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The 3-3-5 maybe be our best def package. Our lbs maybe be the best in the league. And Ira should start practicing his pitch for LVD in the hof.
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I believe you called that out here a few weeks into the season there Dbag55 good call. LVD is very average, too inconsistent IMO. Kwon has fallen completely off the map it seems. Definitely down year for that group besides Beckwith which they can’t seem to realize is their best backer this year.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:31 am
Weren’t most people, including Warren Sapp, criticizing 3-3-5 as being ineffective?
In the grand scope of this season the Jets game was the outlier in terms of QB pressures, hits, and sacks.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:31 am
Fluke. He had amole time to show that kond on dominance here in Tampa.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:32 am
This situation reminds me of that hit song a little while back. “Where have all the Boydogs gone?!”
November 13th, 2017 at 11:35 am
BUC MAN
why would you purposefully under perform? That would seriously hurt your bank account and run tthe risk of ending your career.
What do you tell teams looking to sign you? Yeah, I know I sucked last season but that was all a facade. I just quit on that team because I hated it there. Im really a good player and I wont pull that stunt on your team, I promise.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:44 am
Good for him but yeah we had to walk.
Man it felt good to get a win lol. Hopefully they can keep it up. If our defense was playing like that all year we’d probably only have 2 losses right now. It’s hard to lose if you’re holding another team to 3 points up till the end of the 4th quarter; even when your offense still has a few bad turnovers.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:46 am
Love this from Wikipedia:Before the 2014 season, it was announced by new GM Jason Licht that the Buccaneers would not be picking up the 5th year option on his rookie contract. He was also moved to the left side since the team signed Michael Johnson for the right side.
Goodness our GM blows chunks.
November 13th, 2017 at 11:47 am
LVD is very average, too inconsistent IMO.
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Absolute crazy talk. Crazy talk I say.
I’m prepping IRa’s hof pitch now.
LVD bc if DB is in the Hall then LVD should have his own wing. Unlike DB who played with a dominant DT, DE, Safety and possibly CB. LVD hasn’t had ANY of those things. He’s out there by himself year in and year out wiping ice cream off himself. LVD don’t need no stinking supporting cast, LVD is his own supporting cast. LVD speaks very softly but carries a baseball bat onto the field.
Who’s your favorite player? Mr.#54
November 13th, 2017 at 11:52 am
It’s ONE game. Big effing deal! He benefited from injuries, good for him.
To OUR defense, IT’S ONE GAME. I’m elated that our well-paid athletes decided to put some heart into it 9 games into the season!
Grimes has the biggest impact of all defensive players on this team. LVD has been ballin’ out for weeks now! Now, about that d-line…….
November 13th, 2017 at 11:57 am
@Defense Rules…really? Am I in the twilight zone, was this not you just yesterday?
Defense Rules Says:
November 12th, 2017 at 7:02 pm
Lakeland, therein lies the problem with the Bucs since Jon Gruden got fired. Look at all the players we’ve ‘lost’ (or dumped) since 2009 who are still playing at a reasonably high level today or at least were last year. Just a few we could’ve used:
LT Penn
C Zuttah
RB Blount
DE Bennett
DE Clayborn
OLB Barron (who we took instead of taking Luke Kuechly I might add)
CB Talib
MLB Foster
As a consequence, we ended up having to spend high draft selections to fill those slots. Wonder why we…
This is why Bucs fans irritate me lol
November 13th, 2017 at 12:02 pm
Clayborn sucks. Terrible draft pick
November 13th, 2017 at 12:03 pm
DB55 Says:
November 13th, 2017 at 11:47 am
LVD is very average, too inconsistent IMO.
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Absolute crazy talk. Crazy talk I say.
I’m prepping IRa’s hof pitch now.
He’s out there by himself year in and year out wiping ice cream off himself. <— LMAO
Who’s your favorite player? Mr.#54
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LOL I agree with you on GMC. LVD needs to put a franchise on his back and take them to a super bowl first then call Canton DB. Who's a better weak side LB??? Mr. Derrick Brooks!
November 13th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
For whatever reason..A team change does some players a world of good in all sports. Hell, even a job change for us does wonders. I was livin in Tampa making in the 30’s back in the day. Moved out West and now make quadtriple that plus!! So change can be good. I feel happy for Clayborn. He played Beastly last night. Like a man possessed. He had..one of those games. Good for him!! Now we neeed one of our Defensive Bucs to have that same kind of game. Don’t diss on Clayborn. Lots of players leave the Bucs and do well. We just need our Buc Defense to..bring the heat consistently. Do this, and WE win more. DEFENSE PEOPLES!!!
November 13th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
I watched this entire game. He still loafed on a lot of running plays and when Prescott got out of the pocket.
But good for Clayborn. I’m glad he’s finally stepped it up after so many seasons to have 1 breakthrough game.
The Falcons can still have him.
November 13th, 2017 at 12:13 pm
I’m happy for Clayborn great guy good for him! Outlier game though. I can’t wait to see what studs we draft next year.
November 13th, 2017 at 12:18 pm
Who’s a better weak side LB??? Mr. Derrick Brooks!
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There are stats to support a respectable argument. DB got’em on Ints but overall LVD has done things DB has never done. Silly debate but a respectable argument nonetheless
November 13th, 2017 at 12:32 pm
Well, Tapp and the other guy new guy got sacks for us yesterday too………………..
November 13th, 2017 at 1:14 pm
Letting him go for a torn bicep, didn’t McCoy do that twice. He should have been kept but the truth is they let him go to sign Michael Johnson. Your talking like the potential to do what he did wasn’t there. It was a bad move and it’s why the bucs are who they’ve been for the last decade. Only difference is that now we are holding on to guys who clearly wouldn’t play for any other team. Is Clayborn better than will gholston Joe’s? Ummmm yes you know he is
November 13th, 2017 at 1:19 pm
DB55 Says:
November 13th, 2017 at 12:18 pm
Who’s a better weak side LB??? Mr. Derrick Brooks!
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There are stats to support a respectable argument. DB got’em on Ints but overall LVD has done things DB has never done. Silly debate but a respectable argument nonetheless
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You got a man crush on LVD it’s ok DB no judgement lol
November 13th, 2017 at 1:47 pm
Agree. Clayborn is not in the Bennett/Penn catagpry.
Look at the game in context (Cowboy backup linemen, Falcon defense was clicking, Cowboys are imploding)
November 13th, 2017 at 1:50 pm
54 is a bad bad man.
I kept asking my Mom, “Why does number 54 keep hurting those men in green?”
November 13th, 2017 at 1:57 pm
Derrick
Totes! What’s not to love?
November 13th, 2017 at 2:33 pm
DB55, need to give the name back if youre even going to entertain the tgough David is in the same universe as Brooks. Brooks was 230, could run a 4.4 40 at one time. If it weren’t for the unimaginative Tampa2,, Brooks could have a had a ton of sacks coming off the edge.Brooks single handed shut down Mike Vick when he was the talk of the NFL.
November 13th, 2017 at 2:50 pm
Adrian Clayborn got more sacks in one half of football. than the Yucs DEs has in 9 games. That is a shame, it’s a disgrace to the NFL.
November 13th, 2017 at 3:13 pm
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive Ends
Noah Spence: 1 Sack
Will Clarke: 1 Sack
Darryl Tapp: 1 Sack
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Adrian Clayborn
3 Sacks in First Half
3 Sacks in 2nd Half
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This is a Disgrace
November 13th, 2017 at 3:19 pm
@lakeland
the funny part is that even though Noah Spence is on IR, all 32 NFL teams would still take him and his remaining contract over adrian slowborn and his remaining contract!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Bucs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 13th, 2017 at 3:23 pm
I didn’t include Robert Ayers 3 sacks, he plays inside and on the edge. even with his 3 sacks. Adrian Clayborn 6 sacks equal the Buc total for their Defensive Ends for 9 games. One man got just as many sacks in one game than a team of Yucs in 9 games.
November 13th, 2017 at 3:42 pm
BushidoEvans … That’s what I call ‘cherry-picking’ on your part. What I said above was “But no Joe, Clayborn wasn’t the answer to our DE woes when he was with us and he won’t be now.” And what I said earlier was that Clayborn is one of the ones who “we could’ve used” … meaning right now obviously since we’re HURTING for DEs right now. Would Clayborn be the long-term answer? No, and never said he would be. Sorry that irritates you.
November 13th, 2017 at 4:57 pm
The Bucs won….arguably against the worst team in the NFL and A Clayborn looked like a manbeast that the Bucs have been looking for….for a decade!! TAKE A KNEE….KEEP AMERICA FREE!!
November 13th, 2017 at 5:57 pm
I always thought he was a 8 sack guy and stout against the run.
Our front seven should be if we had any brains
Bennett
McCoy
Sheldon Richardson
Clayborne
Luke k
Kwon
David
November 13th, 2017 at 6:10 pm
Funny thing is. Spence is doing the same thing here. Nothing. Staying hurt and unavailable!!
November 13th, 2017 at 8:24 pm
exactly, injury prone is an understatement
November 14th, 2017 at 12:20 pm
But Realist told us for 4 years he was too slow to get sacks.
Adrian slowborn ring a bell….?