Buccaneers-Jaguars, Open Thread
August 17th, 2017
Fire up the in-game chatter in the comments section all throughout the pregame show and to the final whistle tonight in Jacksonville.
Please keep it respectful, but don’t hesitate to mix it up. Joe is live on the scene and come back all through the night.
There’s so much to keep an eye on, even in the second half when future gym teachers, grad students, and mattress movers take the field against the talent-rich Jaguars.
Go Bucs!
August 17th, 2017 at 6:28 pm
D-Line needs to get to that can Bortles early.
August 17th, 2017 at 6:33 pm
Hope Coach Koetter calls out Tom Jones after the game!
August 17th, 2017 at 6:35 pm
Lets Goooo!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 6:41 pm
Cant wait for the so called buc fans to get on here and complain how we arent showing out full mixed packages of plays or how Koetter isnt using Godwin or OJ enough in our second game of preseason….
August 17th, 2017 at 7:02 pm
U’m hoping the Bucs cram a win down their throats after all the disrespect the Jags showed in practice.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:03 pm
Just heard americas quarterback is gonna get a full half of football to work with his new weapons!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 7:05 pm
The Stampeder is not playing tonight.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:13 pm
Is Brent Grimes playing? He’s on the depth chart?
August 17th, 2017 at 7:15 pm
Bonzai? Where you been? Grimes will miss the preseason while the laceration on his leg heals.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:19 pm
Hey Hey Hey We’re The Buccaneers!!!!!🎶🎶
August 17th, 2017 at 7:21 pm
Blake_bucsfan, that’s what I thought, but yet he is on the depth chart for the game.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:23 pm
I was expecting to see (shudder) Ryan Smith as the starter.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:29 pm
Hoping Roberto has a solid game tonight
August 17th, 2017 at 7:31 pm
Yeah, Ryan Smith is turning out to be a disappointing pick. I don’t see him becoming much better in coverage.
He is good on ST though, I wonder if that will be enough for him to make the roster.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:40 pm
@blake
Give him some time. He is basically a rookie cb this year.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:42 pm
Feel the pewter….how is Berto going to kick from Chicago?
August 17th, 2017 at 7:44 pm
Joe Dirts a baller Joe. He is a football player, if not here than somewhere.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:44 pm
K2 Says:
August 17th, 2017 at 7:42 pm
Feel the pewter….how is Berto going to kick from Chicago?
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I was kidding.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:44 pm
God I really REALLY hate our garbage jerseys. If the front office reads this site I pray they go back to our GREAT 2000s jerseys.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:47 pm
Should I make my post now so maybe they will get through moderation before the end of the game? LMAO
No I will keep my word. Im not even gonna try.
This thread is for all you cool people.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:49 pm
/signed Mike
August 17th, 2017 at 7:51 pm
I have not bought Bucs merchandise since they switched to the new jerseys.
I understand they cannot go back because Rebok made the old uniforms. But they could at least bring back a more pewter and red theme. (instead of chacoal, red, white and orange)
August 17th, 2017 at 7:57 pm
Has nothing to do with the manufacturer. The designs are owned by the respective NFL teams. Notice the Steelers, Colts, Giants, Packers, Bears, etc didn’t change their uniforms when the NFL flipped to Nike.
August 17th, 2017 at 7:58 pm
Would love to see a Winston deep throw to D. Jackson for a TD tonight!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:01 pm
Thank God we don’t have to hear Chris Meyers tonight.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:02 pm
Joe Says
“Has nothing to do with the manufacturer.”
I thought they changed because Rebok held some right to the design?
If you are right, I say bring them back!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:04 pm
On espn…YES!!!!!!!!!!!
no bootleg internet watching on my laptop!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:04 pm
Game time Stick Carriers!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:06 pm
I want to see the bell spread around and finishing in the end zone.
On defense I want to see PRESSURE and sacks
As for actual players, I am not worried about starters. I want to see how various running back’s and defense of backs look
August 17th, 2017 at 8:07 pm
I’m not worried about overall team results tonight. I want to come out healthy and see certain individuals or units do well.
I hope Ryan Smith does better than he has looked in practice, because there is no way the Jags don’t pick on him tonight.
I want to see Kwon have a huge game, just so Hard Knocks will actually feature him…plus its MNF, so a national audience.
I would like to see the starting offense get a TD, but it isn’t a must.
I would like to see us use the fullbacks to good effect, just so we can see how they do.
And finally, Folk better not have any misses, because if he does it will light this board up and crash the server.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:07 pm
Bonzai – The Bucs just changed designs to freshen things up. I’ve given the new uniforms over 2 years now and still hate them – I think it mainly has to do with that awful font they choose. I still love the old original Bucs uniforms – they looked awesome and they actually had something to do with the area unlike pewter and red, unless you associate red with red tide which isn’t really a good thing. But things could certainly be worse, the Bucs could have that awful Jags helmet where they can’t figure out how to do a proper gradient.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:08 pm
I want Baker to show he is not all talk.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:09 pm
I fully expect a very sloppy game – that is almost what always happens when we play the Jags, and to do so on a Thursday, I expect it to be even worse than normal. I won’t get too high or too low tonight, I have feeling this will be a complete waste of a game. Lets see what happens.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:10 pm
Rod Munch, red has to do with pirates I think. And the pewter was used to avoid black.
But I like the originals too.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:11 pm
Chris Baker has like an 84 rating on Madden 18 – the Bucs have probably the best tackle combo in Madden. Meanwhile they give Donovan Smith like a 76 rating which means they’re trying to get Winston killed. Haters.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:11 pm
Yeah, I forgot how bad we usually are on Thursday nights. Lol
Let’s change that tonight
August 17th, 2017 at 8:13 pm
Noah Spence got wrecked by Yeldon
August 17th, 2017 at 8:14 pm
Bonzai – I happened to go the 1997 new uniform/logo design and I can tell you they were an instant huge hit, people loved them, but they didn’t explain the colors, not that I remember.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:14 pm
I’m curious to see how Beckwith does on Defense since he should be getting a good chunk of snaps
August 17th, 2017 at 8:14 pm
Nice stop by 93 with the finish by ayers.
Can’t believe he didn’t get the sack on the next play either.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:14 pm
Gruden likes Ryan Smith – take that people who say Gruden says he loves everyone!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:15 pm
Great coverage Ryan Smith
August 17th, 2017 at 8:15 pm
now that was good first string defense. way to go boys.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:16 pm
Loved the red uniforms instantly. Still hate the new ones.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:17 pm
Let’s go deep to D-Jax on the first play
August 17th, 2017 at 8:18 pm
Solid protection there.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:18 pm
Nice run by Martin!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:18 pm
Beautiful cut by Doug just now
August 17th, 2017 at 8:19 pm
Big strong run from Martin. Good thing he changed directions.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:19 pm
doug is good when he needs to prove it. redo his contract to make him prove it again and keep him.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:20 pm
Dougie looking good so far
August 17th, 2017 at 8:20 pm
Was hoping to see a deep shot on that play action. Can’t tell if our receivers were all covered though.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:21 pm
I Like that we’re moving the chains steadily though.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:21 pm
SOOO sick. Love the end around to Djax!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:21 pm
Damn that was scary!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:22 pm
Holy HELL Sims up the gut!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:22 pm
bad drop… dont think that would have gone far anyway.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:24 pm
First catch for O.J. Nice run after as well.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
Too easy! Looking good…
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
Wow!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
TD!!! This offense is looking very tight!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
Excellent drive. So many weapons man.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
OJ!!! Nice first Grab Brother!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
poetry in motion!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
Martin running smart.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:25 pm
OMG we’re cursed with kicking!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
oh boy…
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
It was tipped, but how ironic! lol
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
LMAO
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
Here we go again lololol
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
Are you f*cking kidding me Folk!?
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
Who you gonna defend??? OJ getting it done!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
If this keeps up we are gonna be a scary offense. Jaboo couldn’t be an MVP candidate
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
Roberto Aguayo: “Anyone miss me yet?”
August 17th, 2017 at 8:26 pm
Yikes
August 17th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Great drive! Martin looked great. Winston looked poised. The ball was spread around. Really really good drive – but against a Jags team playing a bunch of 2nd stringers. But…
…and we don’t get the extra point.
More drama for Hard Knocks!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
cant blame folk guys. thats on the line
August 17th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Zach Hocker, come on down!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:27 pm
Lol of course the kick gets tipped!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:28 pm
Not gonna be mad at folk for a blocked kick.
But it definitely fells like something is funny with our kicking. Lol
August 17th, 2017 at 8:28 pm
Hell of a drive. I know it’s preseason but they look ready.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:28 pm
@Rod it’s only their corners not playing… who, interestingly enough, we haven’t even targeted yet.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:28 pm
It is f@cking impossible to speak softly while watching this team!!!
B-U-C-C-A-N-E-E-R-S
Go BUCS!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:29 pm
The blocked extra point isn’t a big deal – but didn’t everyone know that was going to not go in before it was snapped?
August 17th, 2017 at 8:29 pm
Great first drive, Jameis had time against the vaunted Jags D-line and distributed the ball well. Martin/Sims running well (although not great).
I know Folk’s XP was blocked, but I don’t think that he’ll end up dwelling on it.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:29 pm
unbelievable, Ryan Smith was targeted. He covered well.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:29 pm
GJ Beckwith!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:30 pm
beckwith!!!! and then david!!! great job
August 17th, 2017 at 8:31 pm
Smith almost had a pick 6
August 17th, 2017 at 8:31 pm
Ryan Smith almost had that!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:31 pm
Good for Ryan Smith – I hope he figures it out and does so quickly. He looked lost last week.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:31 pm
Second time Ryan Smith ended a Jags drive
August 17th, 2017 at 8:31 pm
north south man, run north south
August 17th, 2017 at 8:32 pm
@Bonzai no we were talking about the jags… I meant they had only had 2nd stringers in at corner. I realize we have one as well.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:32 pm
3rd solid drive against 2 first team defenses.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:32 pm
Reedy had SIMSitis on the punt return.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:32 pm
GetEm Boys!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:32 pm
Ryan Smith playing solid so far
August 17th, 2017 at 8:32 pm
Not gonna lie, I’m kinda shocked that Ryan Smith is actually looking decent in coverage.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:33 pm
Ugly return Reedy
August 17th, 2017 at 8:34 pm
Bennenoch in at RT
Something to watch
August 17th, 2017 at 8:34 pm
Another nice run by Martin.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:35 pm
All day to throw. Love it
August 17th, 2017 at 8:35 pm
Hey look at that, we run the ball then the playaction works.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:36 pm
Im sorry I repent…. But the MUSCLE HAMSTER is BACK!!!! Thank You GRUUUUUUUDEN!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:36 pm
Damn these cats look good!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:36 pm
Dougie looking good!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:37 pm
Nice run blocking here. Doug looks good
August 17th, 2017 at 8:37 pm
Man this is the 2015 calling plays – not that nonsense all last year. This is impressive. I wish we could play the Jags every week.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:37 pm
That pass protection though!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:37 pm
phew… Doug just got blown up but he is looking damn good out there tonight.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:37 pm
held on to the ball!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:37 pm
man doug lookin on another level…. barry church bringing the wood and JAMEIS…. WOW
August 17th, 2017 at 8:38 pm
Come on Jameis!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:39 pm
Marpet is bringing it all together. He is a mauler. Great to have best olineman back
August 17th, 2017 at 8:39 pm
OK I’ve seen enough of Jameis – lets get him out.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:39 pm
Looks like Hump will still get his touches
August 17th, 2017 at 8:40 pm
Man if the ball is 2 ft further in front it’s prob a 1st down.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:40 pm
@rod
One more drive
August 17th, 2017 at 8:41 pm
I agree, pull Jameis out.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:41 pm
Yeah… No sense in getting him hurt!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:41 pm
Sweezy is raring to go too. Love how he got downfield on the DJax reverse.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:41 pm
I’ll tell you what I’m liking so far about Winston: he said not trying to force passes. The 2 passes Brate for a first step down then hump for almost a first downbeat show maturity
August 17th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
But…alas….Jameis will play the entire half.
Made the field goal!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
nick folk is my hero!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
Why not practice going for it on fourth. Close enough
August 17th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
Pull Winston, Evans and Jackson – let Martin play the entire first half but otherwise I think the starters made their point. Winston has looked sharp – but that’s what happens when you have time (not that Winston can’t make plays under pressure since according to ESPN had has the best season they’ve ever recorded using their QBR stat for under pressure plays).
August 17th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
PHEW FOLK
August 17th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
This is the first time this OL has played together as a unit…and that may only be partially true unless Benenoch beats out Dot.
As this OL grows in teamwork and a unit I suspect we might have the real deal.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:42 pm
Lol
August 17th, 2017 at 8:43 pm
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
August 17th, 2017 at 8:43 pm
Looked like djax was sucking alot of wind after that reverse .
August 17th, 2017 at 8:43 pm
If JW hits AH in stride that a first down. Threw it behind him.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:43 pm
roger – Haha, I was watching that kick just last night by Bryant, what an all-time great call.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:44 pm
Benenoch has looked pretty good so far. Of course it’s preseason but has pass rush is decent.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:44 pm
#weaponsforwinston accomplished
August 17th, 2017 at 8:44 pm
On second thought, Rod…we need a bigger cushion for when Fitz throws his picks.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:45 pm
Feels good to be able to watch the game and not jump up and down screaming and drinking an entire case of beer from frustration
August 17th, 2017 at 8:45 pm
Good luck go the haters. Winston missed djax but stellar overall. O line sharp as can be. Howard made the most. Running backs looked really good. Defense extremely impressive. McCoy being a stud as usual
August 17th, 2017 at 8:46 pm
Bonzai – Actually I want to see what Fitz could do with the first team in an emergency, but I don’t want Evans and Jackson in there, so conflicted.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:46 pm
Rod
Agree completely…I’ve seen enough…especially after losing Griffin last week.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:46 pm
Could Smith be the sort that just practices bad and does well in games?
August 17th, 2017 at 8:46 pm
Meh, I will give R Smith some leeway there.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
Bottles is dodo
August 17th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
Man…thanks heaven we didn’t draft Bortles!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
Was that Elliot on that coverage?
August 17th, 2017 at 8:48 pm
Reedy is 5th receiver cause of returns
August 17th, 2017 at 8:48 pm
Pa Privateer, yes.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:48 pm
Wow, Allan Robinson with the easy drop. I won’t be drafting him in fantasy. Although in fairness AJ Green had one of the worst games I’ve ever seen a couple of years ago against the Bucs in the preseason and he had a great fantasy year.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:48 pm
Bortles is pure trash
August 17th, 2017 at 8:49 pm
Sweezy and Marpet have been the best two offensive lineman. Could be a hidden key to the season.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:49 pm
No quality depth with corners and hope elliot is not nickel that was HORRIBLE coverage
August 17th, 2017 at 8:49 pm
Broy34 – Actually watching the replay I’m not sure Winston “missed” Djax, it looked to me that Jackson was clean off the line but did a juke even though he looked clean – it looked to me like Winston was throwing to where Djax would be without the double move. That’s just a getting to know each other play – or at least that’s what I think from watching the replay. Could be wrong.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:50 pm
I hate Bortles but if a receiver can get his hands on the ball he has to make the catch – that’s on Robinson.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:51 pm
I honestly don’t think Rodgers, Martin or Sims need to play
August 17th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
I think this will be the last drive that Winston plays.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
Rod i mean thats what you want pitch and catch like spurrier says because elliot was lost and conte was late
August 17th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
Nice catch by D-Jax!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
That was a beautiful, 3rd down play…..soooo beautiful
August 17th, 2017 at 8:52 pm
GREAT throw by JW
August 17th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
Ohhhhhh! That was such a good throw too.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
DANGIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON EVANS
August 17th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
DAMMMMMMMMM
August 17th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
Gotta make that catch!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
MIKEY! You have GOT to catch that…
August 17th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
Bad drop by Evans…
August 17th, 2017 at 8:53 pm
oh Mike
August 17th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
JVILLE must have their safeties bailing sooo deep and being scared of djax and evans…. but holy JAMEIS…. WOW
August 17th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
Evans holding his hands / wrist….
August 17th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
This Offense has so much movement after the ball is snapped. I am loving it.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
Evans came up lame. May be hurt. Was holding his thigh
August 17th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
Good job by Winston to go right back to Evans.
This playcalling tonight is great by Dirk – was last week too – this is the Dirk from 2015 when we had the 5th best offense in the NFL.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
keep running evans its TD
August 17th, 2017 at 8:54 pm
Evans hurt??
August 17th, 2017 at 8:55 pm
I think we have to keep Martin at this point. He’s the only good runner.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:55 pm
HOWARD WOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:55 pm
omg evans is limping….
August 17th, 2017 at 8:55 pm
Man stop showing that Talib INT – that was just a great great play by Talib – he looked beat on the play and made an amazing recovery.
Too bad Talib wasn’t a Schiano man.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
not
August 17th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
Mike appears to be fine. THANK THE LORD!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
This is too easy. Take mike and JW out now
August 17th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
Think Evans dinged up. But back in game Whew.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:56 pm
Evans done for night? Why risk injury?
August 17th, 2017 at 8:57 pm
That might have been a little less than a 50/50 shot Gruden…
August 17th, 2017 at 8:57 pm
This better be #3’s last series. Give him a chance to score here and then..Turn out the lights the party’s over.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:57 pm
I think ESPN is ahead or MOR32. You guys seem to be seeing things before me.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:57 pm
Howard and Godwin are great run blockers!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
lol…sloppy.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
WTF ARE YOU THINKING JAMEIS?!?!?!??
August 17th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
Should have been a face mask.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
Cmon jaboo u can’t do that nonsense. Take the sack.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
OK…I’ve seen enough! Almost gets hurt but at least learned a lesson…hopefully!
August 17th, 2017 at 8:58 pm
Down by contact, lol.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:59 pm
Oh no Winston – don’t do it buddy. I hate the turnover talk, you got to let Winston make plays – but man, that’s not a good play, just take the sack.
But hey that’s why we play preseason ball.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:59 pm
Elbow touched the ground before he threw.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:59 pm
Dang, Winston had to go and do something stupid like that. He has been playing great otherwise.
August 17th, 2017 at 8:59 pm
This is why JW is NOT elite!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:00 pm
Forward progress
August 17th, 2017 at 9:00 pm
Oh see Winston knew the play was dead – no big deal, Winston has amazing field awareness.
Hahaha…. Jacksonville…
August 17th, 2017 at 9:00 pm
mor is ahead
August 17th, 2017 at 9:00 pm
Hey another field goal was made…..I won’t need to chug my beer
August 17th, 2017 at 9:00 pm
Sucnutz
Ur an idiot
August 17th, 2017 at 9:00 pm
Can’t wait to hear the exchange between Dirk and Jameis after that play on Hard Knocks next week!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:01 pm
LOL #3 getting a scolding from papa K. Yeah I know dad I really messed up!!!
I can live with that mess up and the lesson. But watching two linemen bending his knee back…take him the freak out of the game!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:01 pm
They have looked great!!!
Then JW screamed “I’m only 23 and will do stupid things sometimes!”
Knock that shiiiite off JAMEIS!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:01 pm
bucnut2 – No one has said Winston is elite yet you tard. Now go eat a bowl of HIV.
God bless.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:02 pm
Jags fans can complain all they want. He really was down. His elbow touched the ground just before he released the ball.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:02 pm
Jameis has to stop making plays like that for us to be able to win at a playoff level
August 17th, 2017 at 9:03 pm
MEG- please go watch the NFL teams. Elite QB’s don’t do what JW does. He plays great for a while and then makes stupid decisions.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:03 pm
better now than during the regular season. good lesson, really.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
So just for the record while the Bucs always get screwed by the refs, apparently if we play the Jags we get all the calls. So if we meet them in the Super Bowl we’re in for an easy W!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:04 pm
Rod- Most on this site think JW is ELITE. he’s not there yet.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:05 pm
bucnut2 Says
“MEG- please go watch the NFL teams. Elite QB’s don’t do what JW does. He plays great for a while and then makes stupid decisions.”
No one has said he is elite. He’s striving to become elite.
And funny how you did not post until he made a mistake. #FakeFan
August 17th, 2017 at 9:05 pm
Franchise, no franchise, that’s the stupid QB play that is going to lose us games. Jameis, you know better!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:06 pm
bucnut2, NO ONE says he is elite. Quit making things up.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:07 pm
BB- we will lose games we should not lose if JW continues to do stupid things.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:07 pm
bucnut2 – I haven’t seen anyone say he’s elite yet, as in literally no one. If they did I’d call them a moron as well. He’s going to be elite, but he isn’t there yet.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:08 pm
WE have 0 pas rush
August 17th, 2017 at 9:08 pm
Wow. What a push off by Robinson there
August 17th, 2017 at 9:08 pm
Nice Blitz
August 17th, 2017 at 9:08 pm
LVD showcasing break neck speed.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:09 pm
YES – Mike Smith finally sending David on the blitz! Use David like how Ronde used to get used – you never know where he is or what he’s going to do and he’ll get those shock sacks all day long.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:09 pm
bucnut2
Well, duh. The Packers will lose games if Rogers does stupid things too. Or the Seahawks if Wilson does.
23 years old, still maturing. He’ll be fine.
For what it is worth, Brett Favre made a lot more stupid mistakes…and he was considered elite.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:10 pm
Wow, Jaguar just told the ref F#ck you to his face and no call?
August 17th, 2017 at 9:10 pm
Reedy has looked pretty decent fielding the punts. Please no #3. We know we could win this game if it was real. I see no purpose in continuing to risk our franchise.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:11 pm
I remember Andy Reed wanting to bench Favre multiple times when he first started, because he seemed to never stop the dumb stuff.
Gunslingers are like that.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:11 pm
I watched the replay of that really dumb Jameis play a few times, and I’d be willing to bet money that he thought he was being fouled and assumed he had a free play.
Still looks really bad though.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:11 pm
Good thing its the preseason.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:12 pm
Bonzai – Exactly, Favre made TONS of bad plays, that’s what gunslingers do, they make really good plays too. You can’t take that away from players like Winston – he’s going to turn the ball over, Peyton Manning turned the ball over a ton early on – it’s part of learning how to play in the NFL and Winston is ahead of the curve, so so far so good.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:12 pm
Brett Favres first pass was a pick 6
Brett favres first pass completion was to himself
August 17th, 2017 at 9:12 pm
Mike Evans GOAT, refs are smart…they wait to screw them over during the game.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
Mike Evans – In fairness the Jags have had almost every call, legit or not, go against them. As Bucs fans we know that feeling. It’s preseason so I really don’t care. In the regular season I’d want the refs hung for not calling that there.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
Can’t believe that Jameis is still in the game..
August 17th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
Bucnut
Why don’t you stop trolling us loser!!! Your remarks are moronic not borne by facts. I don’t know which game you are watching but Chucky is talking about how the Jags can’t run it…and Bortles can’t throw it and they’re not protecting him.
Do you come here to simply be an assss or because you wish to show us all how totally uniformed you are?
August 17th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
BB- quit making excuses for stupid plays by JW. he’s young but as DK said on Hard Knockshe is he ONE guy who can lose games for us. HE need sot be smart!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:13 pm
Flucking twinkle toes
August 17th, 2017 at 9:14 pm
There’s my Sims
August 17th, 2017 at 9:14 pm
Blake_bucsfan Says
“Can’t believe that Jameis is still in the game..”
Koetter said a full half for the starters.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:15 pm
Another REALLY bad decision by JW!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:15 pm
Had to get work for the punting unit at some point.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:16 pm
Look he has talent, but needs to reign it in! JW needs to make better decisions.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:17 pm
bucnut2 Says
“BB- quit making excuses for stupid plays by JW.”
I’m not making excuses. And I agree he needs to improve in that area. But you also have to understand the gunslinger mentality. They think differently. Koetter himself said this week he wants Jameis to get better in that area…but he doesn’t want him to stop taking chances because that’s what makes Jameis great.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:17 pm
Nice flop by Godwin
August 17th, 2017 at 9:17 pm
See told you the punt team needs work.
From watching Hard Knocks I think our special teams coach is a moron – that construction speech he gave put me to sleep. I really wonder if Roberto got himself cut so he didn’t have to listen more of those speeches.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:18 pm
Can’t believe homeboy dropped that… vh3 was beat.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:18 pm
St Pete- I am not trolling anyone, just injecting some truth into this dialogue. i LOVE the Bucs and am a JW fan but will not overlook bad play
August 17th, 2017 at 9:19 pm
bucnut2 – Everyone is saying Winston has to improve his play still and make better decisions – you’re literally saying the same thing everyone else says and pretending like an original thought. Be less boring.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:20 pm
Love that vampire commercial lol
August 17th, 2017 at 9:20 pm
Is that really a commercial for Indycar racing? I didn’t even know that was still a thing.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:21 pm
Great coverage!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:21 pm
Bucnut we ALL know you’re not a JW fan, and only comment when he makes a bad play, aka a troll. Back under your bridge b!tch
August 17th, 2017 at 9:21 pm
Rod- so you think I am stating the obvious? IF so why is everyone killing me?
August 17th, 2017 at 9:22 pm
There’s the Conte we know, cleanly beat on the play.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:22 pm
I Like JW, but agree with our head coach that JW is the ONLY one who can lose us games.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:22 pm
bucs back end is very weak, vh3 abused by robinson and conte late again
August 17th, 2017 at 9:23 pm
Conte has been making some plays tonight.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:23 pm
Need to see more of a pass rush please………….
August 17th, 2017 at 9:24 pm
bucnut2 – You’re like the press, you make up fake news then report on that fake news as if it’s true. Thus your “everyone is saying Jameis is elite” when literally no one is saying Jameis is elite. If you bothered to actually read the responses you’d see what people are calling you out on it’s on your fake news premise.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:24 pm
Conti got an arm in.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:24 pm
lets go 2 minute offense!!!!!!!!!!!!! gimme a touchy
August 17th, 2017 at 9:24 pm
@bucnut2
“…why is everyone killing me?”
Because you claimed a lot of people here say Jameis is elite. And no one does. I mean, yes, he has plenty of fans…and some call him the savior (not me), but no one calls him elite yet.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:25 pm
conte was late on 2 plays that are normally tds but robinson dropped both
August 17th, 2017 at 9:26 pm
I believe Jameis will become elite, but he has some growing to do first.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:26 pm
Jaboo did look elite except for 2 dumb plays…other than that…whew thank god for preseason…..Lets Goooo
August 17th, 2017 at 9:27 pm
Man. Hargreaves better not talk so much junk yet. He is getting abused on back to back to back plays
August 17th, 2017 at 9:28 pm
Jameis playing towards that elite level tonite he keeps growing and getting better and with 4 big time weapons he can keep improving
August 17th, 2017 at 9:28 pm
Bird right on
August 17th, 2017 at 9:28 pm
jaboo 2 min game is sick….lets goo
August 17th, 2017 at 9:31 pm
GOOD FOOTBALL AWARENESS HUMP!!!!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:31 pm
That was excellent awareness by Humphries.
Holy Roller rule??????
August 17th, 2017 at 9:33 pm
Lets see a long FG.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:33 pm
Godwin….Nice smart play after the catch. catch and secure the ball.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:33 pm
It’s a 58 yard FG, kick it.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:34 pm
That was a terrible holding call. He just fell.
Nice tough catch by Godwin!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:35 pm
Overall great first half – sloppy ending but so what.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:35 pm
Mixed bag from the 1st string. Some really excellent stuff, as well as some brutally ugly plays.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:36 pm
More good than bad, for sure.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:36 pm
The defense looked really good.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:36 pm
BB- i offer the rolling evidence that most on this site think JW is elite. See Curry Winston comments below
Jaboo did look elite except for 2 dumb plays…other than that…whew thank god for preseason…..Lets Goooo
August 17th, 2017 at 9:37 pm
Sign leveon bell and go heavy defense (secondary and dline) in fa and draft next year.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:38 pm
Good night guys. keep dreaming and don’t wake up. Best to you all. Bucnut
August 17th, 2017 at 9:39 pm
bucnut2 – Learn what words mean, like the word “except”. You see dope in context that means he’s saying he looked elite EXCEPT for when he didn’t – thus he’s NOT elite.
Anywho say it with me, “I like turtles”.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:39 pm
Wow, 240 yards and 12 pts. I love jameis but his vision between the 20s is amazing, inside the red zone, not so much…. he is only 23, so I’m not being negative, just honest. I’m fkn thrilled he said our QB. Let’s go Bucs!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:39 pm
Bye Felicia!
August 17th, 2017 at 9:39 pm
Blame the Raiders for the Holy Roller rule I believe
August 17th, 2017 at 9:39 pm
Why was Dotson out of the game so early? Those backup RTs almost got Winston killed.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:40 pm
Can we trade for Aaron Donald? We’ll give them Chris Baker, who has an 84 rating on Madden AND throw in Evan Smith and George Johnson.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:42 pm
Doug’s 1st half stats. 5 carries for 30 yards and 1 TD. 6.0 yards per carry, suck on that Joe(s).
August 17th, 2017 at 9:43 pm
Ryan Moss doesn’t know Derrick Koetter first name.
Moss – just think Boogie Nights… Marky Mark played the role of Dirk Diggler. That’s the best way to remember.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:45 pm
Did Benenoch play well with the starters ?
August 17th, 2017 at 9:46 pm
Blake_bucsfan
it should help Licht get a 6 or 7 round pick for the unreliable gerbil. 3 good carries in a preseason game does not offset 3 HORRENDOUS SEASONS….
August 17th, 2017 at 9:47 pm
Lol rod using madden ratings totally kills any arguments crediblity
August 17th, 2017 at 9:47 pm
I want to see Auclair, McNichols, bullough, and a WR make some highlights tape
August 17th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
bucnut…we love u man, nite nite
August 17th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
blake don’t get too excited about the defense vh3 was burnt 3 times and committed 2 more penalties jags are that bad bucs are not playing that well yet. i am not worried but let’s not kid ourselves there were about 6 plays were vh3 was abused
August 17th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
Dirks – Yeah, that was the point, it was a joke.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
Tmax the fact that you can’t see that doug is the best rb is mind boggling
August 17th, 2017 at 9:49 pm
Thought I recognized that name:
“Bucnut2 Says:
February 7th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
Lurker nice try. He’ll be under increased pressure in the nfl and his accuracy and int will increase. Bs don’t perform better in the nfl, they perform worse than college. We’ve alrea seen the best of Winston. Trade down!”
August 17th, 2017 at 9:50 pm
Nice run by Barber.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:50 pm
Guys…I kno its preseason but u gotta b jacked for the Bucs this year, we woulda beat tha crap out bengals and jags for sure..easily
August 17th, 2017 at 9:50 pm
Another nice run by Barber…
August 17th, 2017 at 9:51 pm
Koetter afraid of letting Fitz throw?
August 17th, 2017 at 9:51 pm
Man Peyton Barber is running hard.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:51 pm
Godwin is making some nice blocks
‘ and Auclair is in the game
August 17th, 2017 at 9:52 pm
Rod. Gotcha my b. Since we never play more than two seasons on madden then we should trade our first round picks from 2019/20
August 17th, 2017 at 9:52 pm
Dunn – BucNut total exposed for being a j/o rooting for Winston to fail. What a piece of trash.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:52 pm
Lol foweler looks like a b!tch
August 17th, 2017 at 9:53 pm
Wow, our backup is so good they’ve only passed it once.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:53 pm
lol…and that is why.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:54 pm
Who called the Fitz INT before the game?
You called it right.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:54 pm
Fitz to the rescue
August 17th, 2017 at 9:54 pm
Doesn’t even look like Fitzpatrick cares
August 17th, 2017 at 9:54 pm
Dirks,
You are talking about the same guy who can’t see that GMC is our best dlineman.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:54 pm
If Griffin were healthy, Fitz would not make this team. Put in Sefo Liufau.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:55 pm
@Rod Munch
That was me.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:56 pm
Happy birthday Gruden – you don’t look a day over 70.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:56 pm
Bonzai – Welp congrats, that was a terrible play by Fitz.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:57 pm
Ahhh bucco. Valid point. The smurfs must have been green on his childhood tv as well
August 17th, 2017 at 9:58 pm
@Rod
And that’s not to say there isn’t lots of people who maybe didn’t support him predraft, but he’s won them over.
But, there’s also those who won’t dog him because they know they will get checked. So, it’s those veiled compliments, that include “but”s and “except”s, etc. If you remember who they were, and see how the talk about him, it’s obvious. At least he had the balls to not change his name. That’s what 90% did.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:59 pm
Dirks – Actually Aaron Donald is so good he’d be worth trading two 1sts for – he is the closest thing to Warren Sapp that has been in the NFL since Sapp was here.
August 17th, 2017 at 9:59 pm
Beckwith looks like a boss out there
August 17th, 2017 at 9:59 pm
Yah. I was cool with futz pick up at first.
Man was I wrong. He is absolutely a waste of time
August 17th, 2017 at 10:00 pm
💩
August 17th, 2017 at 10:00 pm
I also said the Jags would keep their starters in longer than the Bucs. They do that every time they play in preseason.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:00 pm
too much cushion R Smith
and holy crap is that a big boy!!! Is that Stevie T? That man is huge!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:01 pm
Glanton!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:01 pm
Tmax VH3 just isnt showing that shut down corner his draft status should make him and he is average at best and robinson destroyed him tonight
August 17th, 2017 at 10:02 pm
Love and Warrick Dunn Says:
“And that’s not to say there isn’t lots of people who maybe didn’t support him predraft, but he’s won them over.”
I’m in that group.
His off field behavior and leadership has been great. And his on-field results speak for themselves.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:02 pm
Yikes, was that another missed tackle by Evans?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:02 pm
Oh no that wasn’t Evans – it was Elliott.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:02 pm
Siliga is HUGE….massive man in that middle
August 17th, 2017 at 10:03 pm
Dotson pulled a groin, and will be out almost as long as it will take for this comment to be moderated.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:04 pm
@Dusthty Rhothdes
I think no player ever has a perfect game. VH3 had maybe 4-5 bad plays…out of what? 40?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:04 pm
Nice coverage R Smith. There is something to work with…..
August 17th, 2017 at 10:05 pm
Get those Glanton jerseys up for sale!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:05 pm
OOOOOOHHHHHHHH GLANTON wants that weakside job
August 17th, 2017 at 10:05 pm
@Bonzai
If you weren’t someone who called him closely both on and off the field, as I had, I truly get the reluctance. Just glad Licht and Lovie..and the Glazers felt ok to pull the trigger.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:05 pm
Glanton AGAIN!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:06 pm
jags starters against our 2nd and 3rd string makes it look like a game. they still have to punt, but still.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:06 pm
Nice sack!!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:06 pm
I’ll tell you…Ryan Smith should get the game ball.
Considering how badly his practices were, Mike Smith must have gotten through to him, because he is showing vast improvement.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:07 pm
Glanton again!!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:08 pm
@Bonzai
He is definitely looking better. Some mistakes, but he reminds me of a Rookie, which technically he is as an NFL corner.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:09 pm
Bonzai – I was back on forth on Winston until I read an article by the National Review which just totally destroyed the trash that claimed Winston assaulted her. The National Review is a conservative magazine, you can’t say they have a bias towards young black men over white women.
Give it a read and send it to anyone still repeating the assault nonsense.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/415269/cinematic-railroading-jameis-winston-stuart-taylor-jr
August 17th, 2017 at 10:10 pm
Feeling pretty good for the second pre season game.
Special teams still a bit shaky.
And I only cursed the the screen twice. Who is number 35…totally blew coverage in the first half and then on 3rd and 13 they throw underneath and Elliott can’t even make the tackle…can’t even hold up the player till help arrives.
Ohhh the vaunted Javien Elliott…He may have played his way off this roster tonight!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:11 pm
Wow that was a fast 3rd quarter.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:11 pm
Barber looks pretty solid so far. Nothing flashy, just running North to South and getting yards
August 17th, 2017 at 10:12 pm
Like that we are 100% on FG. The uniforms can only be changed every five years I believe so we are stuck until the league says we can change them
August 17th, 2017 at 10:12 pm
Peyton Barber is having a good night. He can run it…if he masters the passing game he might be a good NFL back.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:12 pm
our twos just stopped their ones lol
August 17th, 2017 at 10:12 pm
St Pete,
35 is Javien Elliott
August 17th, 2017 at 10:13 pm
JOE ….i thought in the NFL 2 players can’t wear the same number …charles Sims #34 And marquee huff #34 …can you explain this?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:14 pm
Could we keep 5 RBs?
I don’t envy Licht and Koetter making those decisions. Five are worth keeping.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:15 pm
Wow thank heavens our 2’s and 3’s are looking much better tonight than against the Bengals. Of course the Jags do not have the same talent level as the Bengals.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:16 pm
@usf
This is the 5th year of the garbage uniform. So maybe if we make enough noise they will change them next year
August 17th, 2017 at 10:18 pm
Q Says:
August 17th, 2017 at 10:13 pm
JOE ….i thought in the NFL 2 players can’t wear the same number …charles Sims #34 And marquee huff #34 …can you explain this?
theres 90 players in pre season so they allow it for pre season only. ive seen it before
August 17th, 2017 at 10:19 pm
USFBUC…
That is a damn shame! how many more years with this crap?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:19 pm
Dirks Great Granpappy Says:
August 17th, 2017 at 9:48 pm
Tmax the fact that you can’t see that doug is the best rb is mind boggling
he is also the most UNRELIABLE of the group with the exception of Simms… he has been bad more than good last time i checked 3 bad is more than 2 good. He can not be trusted nor can he be counted on. he has proven that by his choices throughout his career. i don’t care about drugs party your ass off but carry your own weight and don’t let your boys down.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:19 pm
Once again we’re so dependent on Doug at RB…
Just not sure about these other guys.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
…okay…
August 17th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
omg really folk
August 17th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
So do we really have a kicker yet? I’m not so sure.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
Its the curse of Brindza and Barth.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
Looking forward to two minutes of Folk in Licht’s office on Tuesdays HK.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:20 pm
Come on
August 17th, 2017 at 10:21 pm
We need a kicker. Lol
August 17th, 2017 at 10:21 pm
We still need to find a kicker.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:21 pm
The curse of Jason Licht.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:21 pm
Thanks for not resigning Matt Bryant Mark Dominik!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:21 pm
Jesus Christ We can’t kick a FG!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:21 pm
Maybe Glennon can tryout for kicker since he has such a forgiving fan base here. his chicago career was over before it started.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:22 pm
This is getting as bad as college when a desperate teams puts out a call for ANYBODY who has ever kicked in organized football.
How did we ever get this snakebit? At least Folk has the leg strength that new backup can barely kickoff to the endzone.
I watch our kickers…see DK’s expression and I think of that old BSPN schtick..
C’MON MAN!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:22 pm
I purposely walked away from the TV for that last kick. I didn’t want a miss to ruin my good vibes from the game so far.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:22 pm
tmaxcon is right that Doug is the most unreliable outside of Sims. But Foug is still the best runner.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:23 pm
Do we miss Aguayo yet?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:23 pm
Just a fun fact I posted the other day – Sebastian Janikowski, who was picked 17th overall (yes in the first round) actually had a worse rookie year than Roberto. In fact Janikowski has had three seasons worse than Roberto had last year.
I don’t disagree with the Bucs cutting him, I think it had to happen, but just keep in mind that Sebastian Janikowski is in his 17th season now. Roberto will still be in the NFL a decade from now.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:23 pm
Thank goodness for Jameis.
Jason Licht should be very thankful 2015 was such a good QB draft (JW or MM).
You don’t cut draft Roberto.
Then when you do you don’t cut him for Folk. Awful.
I really like Licht, but c’mon.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:23 pm
Just kidding…
August 17th, 2017 at 10:23 pm
being dependent on a proven unreliable often injured running back is very sad. you martin fans are hilarious you would think he was Jim Brown the way you defend his arse and completely forget the fact he sucks more than he is good.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:24 pm
Good point Rod Munch.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:24 pm
Holy Hell who is this QB?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:26 pm
tmaxcon – It’s an odd numbered year, Doug will be an all-pro again. In fact he’s the only all-pro 1st team runningback the Bucs have ever had.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:26 pm
tmaxcon
I don’t think Doug is great. In fact I wanted us to sign Adrian Peterson or trade up and draft Cook or Mixon.
Problem is the guys behind look mediocre at best.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:27 pm
Pa Privateer
Brandon Allen…..yea he looks solid out there at QB.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:28 pm
The new replay system is actually quite good – they got the call quickly there.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:28 pm
So our 1’s and 2’s looked good and the 3’s not so much.
What the hell is so hard about kicking an extra point.
I know Pittsburgh liked to go for two…it might be time for DK to polish our two point extra point offense. Seriously…which makes you hold your breath more…#3 throwing to ME13..or OJ…or Brate in the end zone or any of our kickers?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:28 pm
Maxipad,
We don’t think he is Jim Brown. Just the RB with the most potential on this team.
You can’t design plays for players you don’t have, so there is no sense in wishing another player is on your team.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:28 pm
You people even mentioning Roberto are homers. Relax. Folk is proven quit jumping each time something good or bad happens during preseason.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:28 pm
I was surprised bucs cut aguyao so soon . Wasn’t much of a competition
August 17th, 2017 at 10:28 pm
It rained heavy today in Jacksonville, is the field in bad condition? Both teams missing kicks.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:30 pm
Wow…did mentioning JB get me in moderation?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:32 pm
tmax rant incoming
August 17th, 2017 at 10:33 pm
Tailgater – I have no issues with Folk being the kicker AND I agree that Roberto had to go AND I believe Roberto will kick in the NFL for a long time.
For example the Bucs once had a kicker by the name of John Carney – he was our kicker for parts of 1988 and 1989, but we had Donald Igwebuike who was an excellent kicker. John Carney got cut and went on to have one of the best careers that a kicker has ever had – but that wasn’t going to happen in Tampa.
Meanwhile Steve Christie beat out Donald a couple of years later and we had our kicker of the future… except Ray Perkins wanted to save a few dollars and didn’t tag him (I think that’s the term for back then too) and they left him unprotected so he’d get like $50k less – but he gave his word to Perkins he wouldn’t leave.
Then Buffalo called and well, the rest is kicker history.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:33 pm
Let’s sign their 3rd string QB…..hell let’s trade for him
August 17th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
JameisDungy
I think it’s hard to judge the ones yet based on playing with backups. i am not sold on the rb position but I am more comfortable rolling with the other guys and stop wasting time with a guy you can not trust.
Oxycondoms
if he was proven he would have made those kicks
August 17th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
Hicks at FB is doing some decent blocking.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:34 pm
Mchnichols out there looking exceptionally average.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:35 pm
Who compares Sapp and McCoy? They’re totally different style of players. Sapp is a 1st ballot HOF’er, McCoy is an all-pro but won’t be a first ballot HOF’er – comparing him to Sapp is nonsense and an impossibly high bar.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:35 pm
Fitzpatrick is scary bad
August 17th, 2017 at 10:36 pm
So when does Griffin get back?
August 17th, 2017 at 10:36 pm
Folk has been up and down his career , everyone looks at last season but he needs to get it right cuz that’s what we stuck with.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:36 pm
Fitz…
August 17th, 2017 at 10:37 pm
BuccoDav – i do believe their is a treatment program for fans that fall in love with mediocrity. doug is a joke a proven loser and bad teammate. he can not be trusted. new bucs give those of us with standards hope while the holdover losers led by gmc, dotson, martin warm the hearts of the fans content with losing.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:37 pm
Wanna know where Fitz is gonna go with the ball? Follow Kicks. Everywhere he went, the ball followed.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:38 pm
Good Lord Fitz
August 17th, 2017 at 10:39 pm
All good Rod and thanks for the background, good stuff. I’ve been seeing ppl say we cut him too early because of a missed 47 yd fg. XP being blocked can go either way but he’s going to be fine. Roberto getting canned probably added some pressure temporarily but he’s going to be our kicker.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:39 pm
I am amazed tmaxcon isp utting down someone other than McCoy.
At least he’s putting out fresh commentary!
August 17th, 2017 at 10:40 pm
Blake_bucsfan
Just not sure taking Evans over Kamara in the 2nd round was the right move. Only thing missing on this offense is an explosive back. Not sure jeremy mcnichols is the guy.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:40 pm
Seriously, let’s trade for this 3rd string QB…Allen. Kid is ballin
August 17th, 2017 at 10:41 pm
Some fun facts…
Nick Folk is the 33rd best FG kicker of all-time (% all time).
Connor Barth is 17th all time.
Matt Bryant is 9th all time.
We seem to be going in the wrong direction.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:41 pm
Allen looks like Jimmy G from the Pats.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:41 pm
Man! Bullough is there for every tackle.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:41 pm
David, Beckwith, and 1st team Oline stood out to me
August 17th, 2017 at 10:42 pm
Evans looked scared in space.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:43 pm
Pa Privateer, no need to trade for him. He’s be on waivers soon. I doubt they keep 3 QBs this year.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:43 pm
Spence didn’t do anything out there
August 17th, 2017 at 10:44 pm
Joe Dirt is always around the ball – I just wish they’d play him earlier since I want to see what he can do with the 2nd team.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:44 pm
Love Bullough so far. Seems to be everywhere the ball is going.
Beckwith, Glanton and Bullough looked very good tonight. Solid group of LBs this year
August 17th, 2017 at 10:45 pm
@JameisDungy
I can only agree with you at this point, haven’t seen Evans do much of anything so far. Looks lost in pursuit, and hasn’t flashed in coverage either.
I had Kamara pegged for a 2nd round talent, Justin Evans wasn’t even on my radar, not that I’m a professional scout or my opinion means anything.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:46 pm
Looks like LB will be a great group this year.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:47 pm
All I can do is hope to learn that Justin can learn to use his all of his athletic gifts and develop into a great Free safety.
I think that Conte and Tandy have the starting jobs locked down this season though.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:47 pm
Are the Jags really going to start Henne? LOL! I mean year Bortles isn’t any good – but Henne? Wow.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:47 pm
I’m not sold on Justin Evans, I think that’s a wasted 2nd Rd pick
August 17th, 2017 at 10:47 pm
Back ups are getting thrashed.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:48 pm
Nice play on Fleming covering the WR until the last second to tackle the scramble
August 17th, 2017 at 10:48 pm
Wonder if they have the guts to cut Bortles…
August 17th, 2017 at 10:48 pm
We better pray to the football gods that none of our first stringers get hurt during the ENTIRE year.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:48 pm
I’m shocked @ Bortles. He looked good his rookie yr
August 17th, 2017 at 10:49 pm
So, Tmax… you must be a very impressive person. The best in your field, probably a multimillionaire. And all done by yourself with no help.
But football is the ultimate team sport. One player, even an exceptional DT , can only dominate so much by himself. Quit trying to expect him to be Sapp. Even Sapp didn’t do it all by himself, there were all pro’s, if not hall of gamers, in every level of that defense.
Your standards are not high, they are unrealistic.
To deny that he is one of the best DT’s in the game and an asset to the team just shows your bias against him.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:49 pm
Wow.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:50 pm
Game over.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:50 pm
Dano – I disagree, Bortles has been terrible every year – he just was putting up a bunch of garbage time stats a couple of years ago and people thought he was good. I think the Bortles isn’t awful talk came from fantasy football players mainly.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:50 pm
Dede Westbrook is impressive…
August 17th, 2017 at 10:51 pm
defense made some good plays in the endzone there. i was surprised considering the way they got walked on going down the field. way to stand up when you have to.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:52 pm
Got lucky…..awful playcalling by Jax
August 17th, 2017 at 10:52 pm
I am telling you, This jags QB Allen has a nice touch, great pocket presence and has some wheels. They should be playing that kid with the 1st team offense
August 17th, 2017 at 10:53 pm
I like Mike Smith being aggressive – they didn’t do that last year until the 2nd half of the year and that’s when they turned everything around. They just can’t get a consistent rush with 4 guys, so you have to mix it up.
Great stand by the defense there even if it was guys who will never play a regular season down.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:53 pm
Its not that Evans is a bad player or that he won’t be good.
Its just unfortunate that he doesn’t look like a day one contributer. We need that out of 2nd round picks.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:54 pm
Privateer – Lots of QBs look good against future UPS drivers.
August 17th, 2017 at 10:57 pm
I didn’t see any pass rush from DLine
August 17th, 2017 at 10:58 pm
Watch Allen score loolololol
August 17th, 2017 at 10:59 pm
Come on Joe Dirt – get some big play to end the game and secure your roster spot.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:00 pm
@ Rod Munch
I realize that they are future beer delivery guys. But he is showing talent to be coached up as a great backup QB.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:00 pm
Well, Allen, you screwed the pooch with those 2 plays lol
August 17th, 2017 at 11:01 pm
Nice deep ball accuracy by Winston to Evans on that dropped pass. Beautiful pass that was
August 17th, 2017 at 11:04 pm
Overall good game. Winston made a couple of bad plays but made a bunch of good plays. Folk had a kick blocked on the XP, I’m not worried about him. The playcalling early on was good before Dirk shut it down a little in the 2nd quarter, which is OK since you don’t want to show your full playbook. The 1st team defense looked good, albeit it versus Bortles so that’s what you’d expected. I’d give the team overall a B-. Anger didn’t have a good night, which is highly unusual, maybe the stench of the city of Jacksonville populated his mind bringing back bad memories, not sure.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:06 pm
Rod
Agree totally with your review. I might add I thought ST’s looked a little shaky.
Blocked XP and that return…just need to clean it up a bit.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:07 pm
I am a bit buzzed so it may not count, but Evens was a bad pick. Period. Maybe a worst 2nd round pick than Aguayo. Just saying. WTF didn’t we get a running back with that pick?
August 17th, 2017 at 11:11 pm
Evans was playing against future UPS drivers (no offense to UPS drivers, love you guys) and he couldn’t be good enough to be noticed.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:12 pm
Love you guys!!! GO BUCS!!!!!
August 17th, 2017 at 11:15 pm
BuccoDav
being top 5 dt does not offset the soft mindset and acceptance of losing he has demonstrated time and time again. he is a good player but not a driven champion. i want championships nothing else. money can be spent more wisely. i don’t hide my disdain for gmc’s game i am very bias I think he is good but not special. he will miss over half the season going by the logic above that its an odd year so doug will be fine based on history and that logic gmc will miss 8 plus games. write that down.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:15 pm
Dreambig – Just a tiny bit early to label a rookie safety in his 2nd preseason game a bust. Safety, like TE, is one of the hardest positions for a rookie to learn and play. I don’t know, call me nuts but I think I’ll wait a season or two before labelling him a bust – in either case I’ll certainly wait longer than 2 preseason games.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:17 pm
Is tmax like a combo name for tampons and maxipads?
Asking for a friend.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:18 pm
Yeah the two second round picks we should be worried about is evans and spence. Didn’t hear there name all night. Saw spence get blown up on first play of game by yeldon. And as for Evans he looks lost. Doesn’t look like he will be playing much this year. Haven’t seen any good tape so far on him. But I must say McCoy really looked good tonight. He lived in the backfield. And I hope folk has a small family to feed I lost all confidence in him.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:18 pm
HEY tmax………you just need to realize that None of us respect your point of view anymore. PERIOD!
Get on with it.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:21 pm
I thought the bucs looked very weak tonight. They won, barely, against an awful squad. no finishing, could have been tied at the end of the first half. Back ups look awful. We nwwd way more improvement before game 1.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:22 pm
I thought the bucs looked very weak tonight. They won, barely, against an awful squad. no finishing, could have been tied at the end of the first half. Back ups look awful. We need way more improvement before game 1.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:24 pm
SB – In fairness I never respected tmax’s point of view, you have to have a lot of water on the brain to actually think McCoy, one of the best DT’s in football, an all-pro’er, a year in year out pro-bowler, should be cut because he’s not, GRRRRRRRRRR, angry, GRRRRRRR, enough, GGRRRRRRRR, for ME!!!
So I’ll not so respectfully disagree with the opinion of Tpad who clearly was born a few months too early and never fully developed.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:25 pm
Rob – Hey Rob, maybe you should stick to reviewing My Little Pony episodes on Netflix, not sure football is your deal.
Glad I could help.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:27 pm
I get that Rod 🙂
August 17th, 2017 at 11:31 pm
Oh I forgot, I like to end my comments on an up note so it doesn’t get too heated in here, so sorry TJmax I forgot to say God bless. My bad.
God bless.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:34 pm
Oh no…….Rod Munch = Tim Tebow???
August 17th, 2017 at 11:36 pm
Not a bad thing in ANY way though. All good here
August 17th, 2017 at 11:37 pm
i watched Justin play alot at TAM>. He has athleticism and thats what seduced Jason. I said it then and I will say in now. it was an awful pic,
But i hope he proves me wrong
August 17th, 2017 at 11:37 pm
Just got back from the game! It was great to see a lot of Bucs fans in the crowd! And Rod, your point about Blake Bortles in garbage time is right on. There is an article in fivethirtyeight.com that makes exactly that point. Bortles would be a Hall of Famer, if he is judged by his garbage time stats alone. The fans booed him out of the stadium.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:39 pm
GREAT Point Doctor Stroud.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:43 pm
Yes Rod, I will watch more closely. The Jags look like a sub .500 team this year again. The Bucs dominated in some ways, but put few points on the board, We are a long way from where we want to be. Starting the half with 12 points was a big let down against such low opposition.
August 17th, 2017 at 11:45 pm
Guys…………”Pre Season”
Let that sink in for a minute!!!!
“Pre Season”………
We are trying not to get anyone hurt and our 1s are winning.
Isn’t that good enough?
August 18th, 2017 at 12:01 am
I’m out for the night. Peace Love and Superbowls!!!
August 18th, 2017 at 12:17 am
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Jameis was an:
“elite talent” the day he was drafted
“elite rookie” his rookie season … in fact the best 21 year old ever
“elite 2nd year QB” his 2nd season … in fact the best 22 year old ever
and will be an “elite QB” this year imho
The guy was better than reigning MVP Matt Ryan his rookie year … last year he had next to nothing to work with while Matt Ryan was surrounded by all-world talent on the offensive side of the ball … this year JW finally has some massive weapons and I expect him to perform.
As for BucNut’s silly statements about elite QBs not making the mistakes Jameis does … he’s wrong. If you look at which QBs led the entire NFL in interceptions during a season (something Jameis has not done) you will find a ton of elite HOF’ers like Unitas, Namath, Bradshaw, Favre, etc.
Elite QBs that can make every throw and are not “system QBs” generally do make terrible decisions from time to time as they believe in their arm and attempt crazy stuff … it’s the same in basketball with insanely gifted offensive talents like Kobe, Iverson, Westbrook, etc …
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again … Jameis is the greatest and most accomplished QB of his age in the history of football … but he’s nowhere near his prime … so R-E-L-A-X and enjoy the ride!
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August 18th, 2017 at 3:27 am
SB – I’m just me and while sure I might insult my fellow fan in a non-heated debate, while I might humiliate them in the arena of public opinion AND fact, while I might make them look like they have the same IQ as my shoelace – it’s just football and I want to leave on a high note, with a positive statement that brings us all together!
God bless…