Chris Baker Behavior Doesn’t Reflect Jameis’ Leadership

August 16th, 2017

Once upon a time this summer, winning head coach Dirk Koetter said on the Ira Kaufman Podcast that a key to this season would be how free agent signings DeSean Jackson, Chris Baker and J.J. Wilcox would mesh in the locker room.

Fast-forward to last night’s Hard Knocks episode, where Bucs fans learned that Baker has a very public and loud habit of trash-talking the Buccaneers kickers while standing just a couple of steps behind them while they attempt kicks. And Baker likes to celebrate their misses.

Is it a good thing? No. Joe thinks it’s awfully weak.

And don’t give Joe the line of baloney, ‘Well, Baker is helping them because they need to get used to distractions.’ Sorry, but standing six feet behind a kicker and heckling doesn’t happen in real football. If that was Baker’s motive, then he should be standing on the defensive side of the ball, or on the sidelines doing his negativity routine.

Believe it or not, Joe has played on many sports teams under many coaches, and Joe understands players must police themselves. That’s the best way to deal with an issue like this — if it is an issue — 90 percent of the time. But Joe, obviously, never played on a team with a “face of the franchise” who has set a firm direction on team leadership.

On the Bucs, that tone-setter is America’s Quarterback, Jameis Winston. And Joe can certainly say that Jameis would never behave the way Baker did. Jameis often rallies the Bucs with cries of “one heartbeat” and “family.”

While every family tolerates a crazy uncle and a freak show cousin or two, Jameis, or Gerald McCoy, doesn’t have to let Baker keep harassing kickers when they’re trying to do their job. Let him wait 30 seconds until after the kick.

116 Responses to “Chris Baker Behavior Doesn’t Reflect Jameis’ Leadership”

  1. CautiousOptimism Says:

    Baker better be fantastic when bullets fly in the regular season because thus far this POS is looking like another fail on Licht’s dubious and overrated record of accomplishment.

  2. RayJameisStadium Says:

    Really! Oh boy. Here you go again. You remind me of the Rays batting slump. Ira didn’t give you a beet salad. Did he?

  3. Buc50 Says:

    Baker is a bully like Sapp to be sure. I hope he has some of Sapp’s success. I hate people like that but as for Roberto, he has to make those kicks no matter what.

  4. CoreyJ863 Says:

    I’m sure they asked baker to do that to get into the kickers heads. If you can’t make kicks with the other team talkin s(p)it, then you can’t be counted on when it’s money time. I support his trash talking. We want a (explicative) football team. And being soft when it comes to making a kick is not going to cut it. Keep it up swaggy!

  5. Mikadeemas Says:

    Really!? Optimism……Really?!

  6. 813bucboi Says:

    I disagree joe….ive played ST in college and we would always talk trash to the kicker while we were in our stands waiting for the ball to be snapped….its called getting in their heads….his team mates may not say anything to him while he’s on the sidelines but as soon as he hits the field we would give it to him….sometimes it worked sometimes it didn’t….
    YOU MISSED what Joe wrote here. If Baker isn’t standing two giant steps behind the kicker, then Joe doesn’t write this piece. Heckle the kicker all you want from the sidelines or the defensive side of the ball, but standing right behind the guy and creating a completely unrealistic situation is not helping. And celebrating a miss … ?–Joe

    regarding baker, I loved what he did…..our coaches use to tell us to huddle around the kicker in practice scream, yell, jump around, bark, swing our arms and try to distract the kicker….if he missed we all ran…if he made it, he would break us down to end practice….

    I also think the coaches didn’t mind baker adding to the pressure…..hayes was right there…..

    I hope you noticed him encouraging the kickers on game day while they were warming up….that’s the type of attitude we need on this team….GO BUCS!!!!

  7. bucsfaninchina Says:

    Lemme guess who the Joe’s new punching bag will be

  8. BucEmUp Says:

    Bakers a bully…you you like it? NO….But how long have we been asking for a bully on the D-line. Now we have one and going to bash it? Choose one or the other can’t have both. It’s his nature….it may not be right but it’s what we wanted. If Aggayo can’t make that kick under that situation he certainly can’t do it under pressure in a game winning moment. I agree about the whole family thing to an extent but that was tough love and I have no problem with it. If baker was constantly going around giving his teammates crap it would be different but this I have no problem with.

    Next….

  9. Cobraboy Says:

    Joe, I coached ST’s. And can tell you without qualifications all sorts of strategies are implemented in practice meant to enhance kicker concentration. I’ve seen whole teams stand behind a kicker and heap all manner of abuse on him.

    What was shown on HK was lame by comparison.

  10. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    Joe, your completely wrong on this one bruh.

    This is football – not crochet.
    Talking sh!t – is part of the game.

    Remember:

    “As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.”

  11. darin Says:

    Yes Joe, very weak is an understatement. I couldnt believe he did that, or that someone allowed him to. Thats total bs. As someone whos done some kicking way back when, i can say that never wouldve happened then. Me n baker would be throwin down. Like u said it doesnt happen in football. I cant see how koetter could let that keep going on if he didnt know before then. Anyway yeah that was crazy. Little league stuff. Go Bucs

  12. darin Says:

    Anyone who doesnt get it is missing the point. Lets assume youve played golf. Be like someone standing behind you and heckling you before every shot. Doesnt happen. Its immature.

  13. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    I remember Rich Bisaccia – would amplify crowd noise through speakers at practice.
    Your doing whatever necessary to simulate – game type conditions.

  14. darin Says:

    Luvmy
    Yes i agree with that. Noise is part of it. Youre missing the point tho sir. Nobody ever stands a couple yards behind a kicker in games and heckles. Not a game type situation at all. Opposite of it. Go Bucs

  15. teacherman777 Says:

    Dontari Poe.

    Thats all I am gonna say.

  16. johnnybuc Says:

    i really could care less what he does in practice or how many practices he misses.. if he shows up on game day and performs then there is nothing to be worried about and optimism you should probably just go follow some other team if your not a fan of jason licht because he’s gonna be around here for a long time.

  17. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    darin

    I hear U bruh.
    But I get the point.
    U gotta understand something – In real game conditions.
    The return team is talking hella sh!t to the kicker.
    So are several fans.

    As you know – its far from quiet.

    They point here Is the coaching staff – let it happen.
    Remember what Koetter said – “He’s making kicks in Practice” – But he’s coming up short in games.

    It was time to turn up the heat.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the coaching staff – put him up to it.

  18. Big Marlon B Says:

    thank you Joe, i was afraid i was in the minority when i watched that this morning. what a clown.

    got an awful lot to say for a guy who doesn’t like to practice….at least the kickers are breaking a sweat and trying to improve their game. i felt that Coach Hayes should have told him to step the f**k off and shut his mouth.

    he better be a beast on game day, because he seems pretty obnoxious so far.

  19. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    *The point here Is the coaching staff – let it happen.

  20. Bucsfanman Says:

    His play better match his mouth. Some people put guys on pedestals around here for just talking a lot…”he’s beastly” and “he’s a bully”! Show it on the field.

  21. StAugBuc Says:

    Starting to think this dude gonna be a bust

  22. The Buc Realist Says:

    Did he do it to the other kicker???? If he did not, then that is not right!!!! I do agree with the “you make it as close to game situations” and no one stands behind the kicker heckling!!!!!

    Luvmybucs said it best
    “The point here Is the coaching staff – let it happen.”!!!!!!!

  23. darin Says:

    Luvmy
    I understand where ur comin from dont get me wrong. One thought i also had was if koetter didnt know it was happening before it aired i wonder if he would still allow it. I cant believe someone allowed it either. N i know everyones talkin smack n it gets loud. Thats a whole different deal tho with someone right behind you. It really is like someone talkin smack during ur backstroke from 2 feet away, in golf. Oh n im not sticking up fof aguayo either. I was never on board with the pick to begin with. Its just immaturity on bakers part. He better be one hell of a lineman. Hope so. Go Bucs

  24. Edgar Perez Says:

    And the coaches can’t stop him either or they just don’t know about it? I am in the “staged” camp.

  25. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    It seems to me that Koetter, Hayes, Smith or Kaczor would stop Baker if they wished…..most of this is staged for the cameras, I suspect.

    If heckling from a couple of steps from behind is not permitted….then so should encouragement.

    There are many things that don’t happen in games that are used in practice…..skinny goal posts…..hitting dummies……7 on 7……..practice is practice.

  26. Owlykat Says:

    Sweezy has the attitude we want but he is not stupid and juvenile enough to heckle our own kicker and celebrate his misses. You play as you practice. Baker is too lazy to give his best. Even if he plays well how much better could he play if he adopted Jameis work ethic? Sounds to me like some of the other free agent busts by overrated Licht. Remember another Buc who showed up consistingly out of shape and after taking up a spot on the roster for years he was finally cut. The worst of that was a much better DE was cut and became a star DE for Seattle Seahawks because of the lazy unmotivated player everyone though had a bright future. Some Buc’s Coach needs to read the riot act to Baker before it is too late!?

  27. Dougie Fresh Says:

    lol come on man. I get its not a real game situation to be that close but these are professional athletes. Stop being so soft, it wasn’t like he was running at him pretending to hit him as he kicked (something that actually happens in the game). HES TALKING, THIS IS FOOTBALL

    They’re already taking away many physical components to practice for safety (which I support) if you cant take mental stress you’re playing the wrong game. Better yet if you can’t handle mental stress you’re on the wrong planet.

    Pressure makes diamonds

  28. unbelievable Says:

    Yea…. except in golf you don’t EVER have 20k – 30k+ fans screaming at you, plus 11 guys standing 10 ft in front of you talking sh*t, and another 30 or so on the sidelines talking and booing.

    I get that there will never actually be someone directly behind you, but there are plenty of distractions and heckling. It’s either gonna make you better or make you choke…

    He did it to Folk too, not just Agauyo.

  29. Lamarcus Says:

    Yeah Joe the same ones complaining about what u think about baker behavior are the same that wouldn’t want that either. Someone yelling heckling while u trying to work.

  30. K2 Says:

    It did not even hit my radar…don’t see it as a big deal.

  31. pick6 Says:

    i feel like every training camp there is a story about the team simulating pressure kicks by basically having everyone heckle the crap out of the kickers for a session.

    also, wasn’t there alot of love for robert ayers for his “weeding out the weak” (or something similar) comment? you’re right it’s not simulating anything that happens in a game, but neither are practice FG attempts with no rush and sometimes no snap. and yet those are parts of the evaluation too

  32. LUVMYBUCS Says:

    During the 70’s, 80’s, and even the 90’s – this was the norm.
    Now everyone has a fragile psyche.

    Ooo don’t talk sh!t to the fragile kicker while kicking – wtf.
    Gawd forbid if – The Stork, Lyle Alzado, Jack Lambert, Lawerence Taylor etc.
    Line-Up in the A-gap (During Practice) – and cursed out the their QB; pre-snap.

  33. Pickgrin Says:

    High probability that Baker was asked by coaches to do this IMO.

  34. Jeagan1999 Says:

    The mistake (Aguayo) is now gone. I’d hesitate to say that Baker’s action significantly played a part in that. I’m just happy that we have a reliable veteran in Folk now.

    Nothing to see here….move on.

  35. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I can think of at least one really good reason not to heckle standing 10 feet in front of golfer before he hit the ball…

  36. The Graham Tram Says:

    I credit the Joe’s constant repetition of “Chris Baker doesn’t like to practice” with the ill-feeling toward Baker. Whether this is factual or not, there’s going to be (already is) a sect of the readership that will condemn him for it.

    Players seem to like Swaggy (from HBO) and he hasn’t played in actual game. His personality reminds me of Sapp. Give him a break.

    And as far as kicking.. Aguayo wasn’t missing kicks because of his proximity to Swaggy. Unless he was. Either way he was missing kicks so the reason doesn’t matter. Hope Aguayo turns it on, but glad that saga is over.

  37. BucTired Says:

    Starting to like this guy less and less. Hopefully he shows something when the regular games begin.

  38. Rob W Says:

    Baker is getting noticed for his big mouth not his prowess on the field, sure hope he shows up in the games. Is it just me or does it look like he needs to shed a significant amount of lard off his body?

  39. BaldBuc Says:

    I know this would be suicide but if I was kicking and Baker did that, I would dot his eye. Would I get my ass kicked? Yep. That crap would end right then, however. Hard Knocks would have lost their minds if R.A. took a swing

  40. lozo26 Says:

    I thought the same thing about Baker’s behavior when I initially saw the teaser clip from the latest episode of Hard Knocks. But after watching the episode and seeing Baker’s interaction with the kicker during the pre-game routine, where he says something to the effect of “this one’s going to be easy I’m not gonna mess with you” and then encourages and compliments one of them, I started to understand his antics to be more about helping them learn to tune out distractions and steel themselves mentally. I think people are making way too big a deal of that clip.

  41. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    ☺Quite a few you mofos funny man. But anyway in fairness Swaggy was the only player I noticed the cameras catch tell berto “do yo thang,and good luck to you bro”. Translation ” that ish wasn’t personal,I was trying to get you better”. My older brothers use to str8 kick my @$$ years ago,that ish made made me. I’m so grateful for that torment. Cause Ion take [email protected]$! from no one now.

  42. darin Says:

    Still falls on the kickers tho. They need to step up n tell him to get his ass from behind them wouldnt have happened to me,. For those who are pullin the tough guy this is football stuff, no [email protected]$t. The conversation is over the article, the title. Bakers bs doesnt reflect jameis leadership, which is very true. I hope this guy backs up his talk.

  43. Kobe Faker Says:

    Baker is a bust and bad for team chemistry…selfish clown…there will always be adversity in every team every season…baker during that time will not be a leader but a fat nusiance

    suggestion for 2not joes

    how about a banner with the clock show time of beginning start of each game each week during the 2017 season and hopefully the playoffs…it really gets us pumped

    “Kobe can be serious sometimes”

    Kobe Faker

  44. Kobe Faker Says:

    ***countdown clock

  45. DB55 Says:

    🍦

  46. Couch Fan Says:

    You got to be a very mentally weak person to have an issue with what Baker did. Sheesh. I agree its not realistic which makes it even better. If you can handle that then you should have no issues come game time. Keep it up Baker. Separate the men from the Boys. Oh and btw only morons would call this guy a bust or a failed FA pick up after just 1 preseason game. Thats laughable like most of your posts.

  47. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    Classic case of Joe being neurotic and reading WAY too far into stuff.

    Move along folks nothing to see here.

  48. shouldhavedraftedeifert Says:

    Don’t you want to be tested constantly so that you better yourself? Iron sharpens Iron not cupcakes. Get a grip yall!

  49. tmaxcon Says:

    Bucsfanman

    i hope you hold gmc to the same standard you want barker held to. he has been running his mouth for 7 years and has accomplished a hell of a lot of NOTHING

  50. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    The question some would want to know is……Was this a one time event or does Baker do this on a regular basis?

    Find out for us if you wish, Joe.

  51. Bucsfanman Says:

    @tmax- Always! The difference in the “lot of nothing,” as you call it, and now is that this team has talent at just about every level. There are no more excuses. I’m looking forward to seeing what this d-line can do.

  52. Couch Fan Says:

    There was point at the beginning of the game where it showed Baker talking to Folk while Baker was kneeling behind him and he said “Dont worry Im not gonna mess with you today” or something to that effect. He clearly does it to both kickers and often.

  53. BushidoEvans Says:

    I disagree with this article.

  54. 813bucboi Says:

    @LUV….I agree…..

    baker did it to both kickers….nick missed some and Roberto missed some…..

    I played college football and we would constantly talk trash…to the qb..to the rb…even to the coaches….we would do it from the sideline, while we were lined up in front of them and even stand behind them…..coaches loved it….it created competition….it made everyone raise their level of play…..

    if you cant handle trash talk from a team mate then football aint for you….if your too mentally weak that you cant concentrate because someone is 2 feet from you heckling, you don’t belong in the NFL….

    obviously dirk and the coaching staff felt the same way….put Roberto thru adversity and lets see if he sink or swim….

    we’re trying to create a winning, mentally strong bada$$ team….no time for dead weight…..GO BUCS!!!!

  55. Stanglassman Says:

    I had a huge Dlineman in high school grab me by the face mask spitting in my face “you better make it” as I was going onto the field to kick the winning field goal in the final game both team were undefeated. The only reason he felt entitled to do that was because the coach encouraged them to heckle at practice.
    I’m sure Backer didn’t do it without the coaches consent. It’s just a bad idea.

  56. BucYouUp Says:

    Can you say reach? I love this site, but this post was a waste of time and only shines a negative light towards Baker. Comparing him to Jameis when the coaches are the ones calling the shots? Makes no sense…

  57. tnew Says:

    I can see both sides of this argument. I played golf professionally for a short while, was never good enough to make it, but was around several that did. From the time I was a junior golfer all the way to the mini tours, we might have an anything goes segment where you can do or say anything to the player without contact or impeding vision. It was amazing how quickly it just didn’t matter for most players. Some, never the better ones, would use it as an excuse for performance.

    But, Joe’s right, its not real, there is never someone standing behind you yelling. But, I’m not sure that these guys even hear anything. To me this is more like Baker yelling look at me. This goes more against the Koetter directive of be yourself in spite of Hard Knocks.

    But, this is not on Jameis or GMC to police. This is a coach’s responsibility. If the coaches don’t want it, don’t allow it. Jameis, frankly, takes on way too much as it is. The last thing I want is for him to have to police a defensive lineman during a special teams practice. Please take that energy and run a few more fades to Evans. GMC, that is not his personality. He leads by serving. In his mind that is his definition of leading. Ayers, has a different definition. If he wants to police Baker, a guy in his “room” ok.

  58. WESLEY Says:

    He only did it for the Hard Knocks camera’s.

  59. 813bucboi Says:

    They need to step up n tell him to get his ass from behind them

    LOL…Baker would’ve simple said, I will as soon as you make 3 in a row….that’s the best way to shut someone up…..

    I remember my freshman year in college we had an upperclassman wr that had a similar attitude as baker….everyday in practice he would talk sh!t to me while we stretched….talk trash during wr vs db drills….talk sh!t during 7 on 7…and took it up a notch during 11team….I would talk trash with him but it only made things worst….

    after returning from Norfolk St I became sick(so did half the team) with the flu and wanted to preserve all my energy so I didn’t engage him in trash talking…I simply focused in on my technique and film study….with each PD and with each INT the talking got less and less….with each jam, with each tackle the talking went from trash talk to recognition…he went from talking trash to congratulating me on practicing hard and locking him down….by the 4th week of the season, he was on to someone else….

    he made me better in so many ways not only physically but mentally….baker seems like a good team mate….as dirk mentioned, we need some bada$$es on this team….GO BUCS!!!!

  60. Destinjohnny Says:

    He is a fat ass.
    My old coach would have him running sprints

  61. GhostofTedford Says:

    Ritchie Incognito part two

  62. JabooBuc Says:

    I think everyone is missing the point regarding Baker. He is talking sh*t like he owns the place but then went out and laid an egg on the field Friday night. He looked fat, slow and easily pushed around. I’ll take an a-hole like Sapp all day as long as he balls out on Sundays.

    I realize it’s only game 1 of preseason but your film tells a story and the first part of Baker’s story sucks so far.

  63. mike10 Says:

    Ya I got ZERO problems w/ him doing that. These guys are clearly struggling, and he’s just trying to push ’em.

    Next ppl are going to start complaining about Koetter’s foul language.

  64. Tom Edrington Says:

    JabooBuc: Hit the nail on the head……Baker looks like an outsider on this team, fat, out-of-shape, no commitment to becoming an effective part of the team….time for the TURK to drop in on Baker, can’t wait for that to happen.

  65. Cobraboy Says:

    Any kicker or punter that can’t block out distractions won’t be in the NFL.

    The very thought that Baker is a bad guy for doing this is absurd.

    To begin with most players look down on kickers and punters anyway. If you can’t deal with such treatment and attitude you need to take up a different profession.

    What Baker was saying pales by comparison to what is really said in a game.

    The best way to shut a guy like Baker—or anyone—is to just make the damn kick, period, end of discussion.

    Aguayo brought this on himself with his game performance.

    I, for one, am glad the drama is over. And based on what both Licht & Koetter said on HK, so are they. Both wanted the kicker situation to resolve itself sooner than later.

  66. Cobraboy Says:

    While many have heard about Baker’s disdain for practice, has anyone heard much criticism of his game day performance?

  67. Waterboy Says:

    Pressure burst pipes. If they can’t handle a little pressure in practice I definitely wouldn’t trust them handling the pressure of kicking a winning field goal with the game on the line.

  68. Pickgrin Says:

    Tom – Chris Baker is guaranteed $6M in 2017. 0% chance he is getting a visit from the Turk this year. SMH that you would even mention that much less expect it…

  69. Tony from Los Angeles Says:

    Played football through college. Saw this numerous times. Non story

  70. Stanglassman Says:

    No one is saying realistic pressure or distraction you would have in a game is a bad thing to simulate at practice. What Baker was doing is not that.

  71. JabooBuc Says:

    Just to be clear, don’t really have much of a problem with the heckling of our kickers at practice (though not a fan of him cheering on their misses). My problem is that the person doing it hasn’t shown much on the field from what i can see. Baker admittedly doesn’t show up at practice and i watched him specifically on Friday night. His game tape sucked IMO so thus far, i would prefer he shut his gigantic pie hole and get to playing.

  72. Lamarcus Says:

    After all this readin comment and sh $# and watching hard knocks

    I’m concern about both of those Redskins leftovers. I really am. Both demonstrating weak practice habits. Yes d jack too.

  73. pabucsfan Says:

    I completely disagree. One thing joe fails to mention in this article is that on gameday who was the one player with the kickers pumping them up in a positive way? Baker. Who was one of the first players to go over to Aguayo and offer support after he got cut? Baker. Baker was the one riding them in practice but also the one showing both kickers support when it matters.

  74. Steven007 Says:

    Pick, you took the words out of my mouth…

  75. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Lol, we finally have a good team and NOW everyone wants to Boo-Hoo. Bunch of negative Nancy Sallys. Lmao
    In Licht I Trust

  76. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    And for everyone complaining about bakers weight, HE IS A SPACE EATER!!!!!!! He needs to be big. I remember a MASSIVE space eater by the name of Vince Wilfork( no he’s not the same player) and last year people were crying about the run game and wanted more “Beef”. Well now we have it and u complain he TOO BIG??????????
    LMFAO

  77. Dubcity06 Says:

    Completely disagree. Thats been happening way way more lately. Im glad he did it.

  78. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Those of you who are fine with it, please explain how the behavior fits in with the ‘family’ mentality of the team?

  79. Doctor Stroud Says:

    As pabucsfan suggests, there might be a larger context here that we are missing. The kickers and Baker may have been talking about this in the locker room prior to practices. @Joe: can you (or any of the fans) ask Baker why he does this, if this is even important? He seems readily available. The devil is in the details.

  80. Bird Says:

    Seriously. He was told to act like that by coaches. Kicking is mental so they purposely asked him to be distraction. Are you kidding me ? Who would do that to a teammate.

  81. Bird Says:

    You guys need to stop drinking and smoking so much

  82. Tommy W. Says:

    No issues here. Baker smelled blood. He knew Aguayo was mentally fragile. His barking made no difference to Aguayo’s performance. All he was doing was getting the prey out of the way so the alphas can eat.

    It’ll be a problem when it is a problem and the coaches step in. Otherwise, keep it moving.

  83. Rod Munch Says:

    The entire point of Baker talking trash is to put pressure on the kicker since the same thing is going to happen in games – people will be yelling at you hoping you miss. Wow, how do you not get this most basic concept. The things some people don’t understand is mind-boggling.
    Looks like you didn’t read what’s here. –Joe

  84. Cobraboy Says:

    @Bonzai: Family don’t put up with the weakest link.

    Fact: Aguayo is mentally fragile, and his performance shows it.

    He KNEW his job is on the line and he missed makeable kicks. That is not evidence of a strong mind.

    He even looked weak getting cut in HK, his body language screaming “I deserve it and knew it was coming.”

    I have been saying since last season he’s toast. When the team offered guaranteed cheese to Folk, that was the day Aguayo was a Dead Man Walking, and he knew it.

  85. CautiousOptimism Says:

    Saggy Baker needs to humble up a bit and take a good long look at his game. He got knocked around against Cincy by single blocks allowing them to repeatedly work into second level. Bad film and bad omen for the guy that likes to talk sht about others not getting it done.
    Fatty Baker…check yourself before you wreck yourself

  86. Couch Fan Says:

    Those of you who are fine with it, please explain how the behavior fits in with the ‘family’ mentality of the team?
    ———————————–
    Not sure about your family but my family love to tease each other. We do it constantly and I am sure these guys do it on and off the field with each other. Its how most men bond. Its a sad world when you cant joke and heckle your own family.

  87. Lamarcus Says:

    But aguayo was missing kicks before Baker. Hell he was missing when someone wasn’t yelling in his ear.

  88. Bucsfan951 Says:

    Yeah because kicking a game winner in Atlanta or N.O. is soooo much more quieter than what bakers fat a$$ can do standing behind him. The kid is mentally weak and needed to be cut. Simple as that.

  89. SB Says:

    WHatever!!! Jeesh if a kicker can stand Heckling then his career should have ended in College.
    Sidenote: Joe did you see how Jameis came over and was downright Cruel to Ryan Griffin’s OLine? That was almost like a Clint Eastwood two liner! 🙂

  90. Bucsfan4life Says:

    I agree with joe on this one. Put in some work first and run some drills. Make ur presence known first. Up to this point I haven’t heard anything good about baker from anyone except the fact he runs his mouth. He better be a hell of a player when season starts

  91. Buc2015 Says:

    Want to add to the majority who saw this as a non-story, non-issue. I’m almost certain that the coaches encouraged or even requested these antics.

  92. JabooBuc Says:

    Mike Evans GOAT: yes, Baker is suppose to eat of space. The film shows him being repeatedly moved from said space. Therefore, he was no space eater. He did not do his job so maybe he should just keep his mouth shut.

  93. Reach87 Says:

    Another moronic comment from the king of the loser culture posters. Moronic.

  94. grafikdetail Says:

    ROFL the joes on a football team? no way

  95. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    It was week one of PRESEASON!!!!!!!!!!!
    Was geno Atkins out there wrecking our game? No because it’s week one of PRESEASON. Jeez people, do u think the patriots are freaking out because they lost to the bum @$$ jaguars? NO, BECAUSE ITS WEEK ONE OF PRESEASON!!!!! Lmao

  96. Blake_bucsfan Says:

    The people freaking out, and over blowing bad tape from week 1 of the preseason, need to stop, take a deep breath, and realize that the preseason means literally nothing.

    Want a pretty good indicator of that? The only team ever to go 0-16 in the NFL, the ’08 Detroit Lions, went 4-0 in preseason.

    It doesn’t matter folks. Relax.

  97. ElioT Says:

    Baker looks and acts like a douche bag.

    Mr. Bad Body better ball the f**k out or he’s taking the reigns of the Hate Wagon away from G-McWeirdo.

    Go Bucs!!!

  98. Bucsfan561_ Says:

    The fans talk more crap than any teammate ever could, it’ll be good for for growing tough skin

  99. gotbbucs Says:

    Is there nobody at Joebucsfan headquarters that has actually been on a football team?

    This stuff happens all the time during the kicking part of practice. The whole team stood behind the kickers and yelled when I was in college.

    The Chris Baker witch hunt continues…

  100. Fsuking Says:

    Deleted for hateful thoughts about Joe.–Joe

  101. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    This site is turning less into reporting on the bucs, and much more about getting the “Clicks” that we all blame the mainstream media for doing.
    Sir, JoeBucsFan.com has had the EXACT same format since Day 1 in 2008. And there’s a ton of reporting, more than ever. If you don’t want opinion writing here, then you’re just not paying attention to how the site works.–Joe

  102. feelthepewterpower Says:

    Baker did the same thing, but in a positive manner right before the first preseason game. I think if the team had a problem with this….Dirk would have said something. The kickers could have said something as well or Jameis.

  103. Jim Says:

    Kick a man when he’s down. Boy that Baker is a real tough guy

  104. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Most of u have probably never played organized sports. Cuz if u did u would understand that this is common practice. We live in such a soft @$$ world nowadays where every1 gets a trophy and it’s turned all of u into Sallys
    It is not common practice to stand 5 feet behind an NFL kicker and heckle him, and then celebrate a miss.–Joe

  105. Nole&aBuc Says:

    Producing under pressure is the primary job requirement of an NFL kicker. I have no problem with a player doing what Baker did providing the player has walked the walk he is talking. What he did in Washington is irrelevant. At this point in Bakers history of being a Buc he has done nothing but loaf in the practices he’s participated in. Baker has taken out a BIG loan betting that his taunting behavior combined with partial participation in training camp will be replaced by his stellar play during the season. If Baker produce’s during the season no one will remember this. If Baker fall’s flat? Then it’s open season on the biggest bust in recent Buc’s free agent history. The dude has certainly placed a cross hair on his number. I’m hoping like all other Buc’s fan’s that he kick’s azz! If not he made his own bed. Is he man enough to own it, if his actions do not meet his own standards?

  106. CautiousOptimism Says:

    Get what you pay for. Or in Licht’s case, what you overpay for. We could have afforded Calais Campbell and he would have been happy to come here if we competed for he services. Instead we’re left with fatty Baker who eats more dcks than blocks. Who on this d line is a badass…on the field between the whistle? Lots of talkers.

  107. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    We have our newest low IQ troll^^^^^^

  108. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    Nole buc
    LOL biggest bust in recent free agency??????
    That how I know u just jumped on this bandwagon. Ghost Johnson? Anthony Collins? Deshawn Gholston? Do those names ring a bell? We UNDERPAID baker. So even if he sucks he would be the farthest thing from a free agency bust for us.

  109. adam from ny Says:

    this is all bs…i’m watching a whole lot of gumption and propaganda being worked in and “werked up” or hbo’s hard knocks…it’s all bs…

    riley “joe dirt” should snuff baker during the show – then they throw down – that would really bring some heat and fire to hard corks!

  110. adam from ny Says:

    i already want me riley bullough jersey – the all pewter version – color rush steezzzzz!

  111. adam from ny Says:

    unf*ck yourself chris baker – before it’s too late – and sapp chimes in on ya azz!

  112. D-Rome Says:

    Cobraboy, all very good points. Thank you for sharing. You are an experienced kicker, correct?

  113. BuccaneEric75 Says:

    I have no problem with Baker as long as he was trash talking both kickers the same amount. Celebrating the misses might go a bit too far, but as long as its equal, no harm done.

  114. KW Buc Says:

    Baker better show on game day — I don’t like any of his game so far

  115. Big daddy Says:

    If youre going to talk trash,no matter where its at on the field .You better have your own game up to speed. Have’nt seen that in Chris baker yet !

  116. PRBucFan Says:

    Cry me a river lol

    Berto is WEAK end of story