McCoy A Slam Dunk For Buccaneers Ring Of Honor?
May 28th, 2017
Before you haters get all worked up, the seasoned Buccaneers observer making the assertion in the headline is not Joe.
Slow your roll.
The claim that Gerald McCoy is a slam dunk for the Buccaneers Ring Of Honor came from former longtime Tampa Tribune beat writer Roy Cummings, who still covers the Bucs often for WFLA-TV, Ch. 8.
Cummings chatted recently with Jay Recher on WDAE-AM 620 and made the very bold call about McCoy being one of the all-time greats. Cummings was even rather cool and confident saying it.
“You know what, at the end of the day, McCoy’s name will be up on that Ring of Honor, It will be,” Cummings said.
The take really stuck in Joe’s craw.
Has McCoy done enough to earn that status? No way.
Look at Hardy Nickerson. He made five Pro Bowls as a Buccaneer, and he was an iconic leader and a transformative force in the franchise turnaround of the mid-1990s. He was a beast on one of the greatest defense in NFL history, and he’s not in the Ring of Honor.
McCoy has a ways to go, Joe believes. He needs more strong seasons and he must get his team into the playoffs. That’s not a slam dunk at 29 years old with a history of injury. Also, McCoy is due $13 million next season and won’t have any of that money guaranteed. There’s actually a chance the Bucs trade him, depending on his performance this year.
That written, it’s a great discussion topic. Do you agree with Cummings? Is McCoy a certainty for the Ring of Honor?
May 28th, 2017 at 4:04 pm
How about the ring of Honorable mention ?
May 28th, 2017 at 4:20 pm
Can’t wait for tmax to see this one smh
May 28th, 2017 at 4:22 pm
Gotta do something more special then just pro bowls to earn ring of honor IMO. I disagree about the history of injury because whatever McCoy has been doing is working and he has been very durable the last few years. The injury worry is a thing of the past in my book.
May 28th, 2017 at 4:32 pm
1) By the way, the headline isn’t an assertion, it’s a question.
2) This is a useless bottom-of-the-barrel post to stir up the McCoy haters.
3) Anybody who worries about Ring of Honor while the dude is still playing needs to find some new hobbies.
May 28th, 2017 at 4:38 pm
I think he needs a couple of 10 sack seasons, a championship and maybe defensive player of the year. In other words, probably not going to happen. I hope it does because I think he is a great guy and a very good player. He just isn’t quite up to ring of honor status yet.
May 28th, 2017 at 4:43 pm
I think he needs two accomplishments if he wants that ring of honor. First the team needs to make the playoffs. Second, he needs a NFL defensive MVP type season on his résumé
May 28th, 2017 at 4:44 pm
I agree with GA Buc. Right now it’s only honorable mention. He needs a strong season or two and even though it’s a team game a playoff appearance seems necessary. That said, Hardy should definitely make it eventually.
May 28th, 2017 at 4:44 pm
McCoy could retire tomorrow, and he’d be in the Ring of Honor. Period.
You will not find the criteria published It is not HoF-like, nor it is Pro-Bowl like. Ths is about the owners and who they think should or shouldn’t be there, and it’s the “whole-person” concept. Not all on-the-field play especially. Not necessarily where the team goes either. This is about “Tampa Bay” contributions and not the “NFL.” Folks have to think in that context. I still expect we’ll see Warrick Dunn, for example. Again, not NFL but “Tampa Bay.”
May 28th, 2017 at 4:52 pm
@ Conte Piscateli…that handle cracks me up every time I see it. Although I’m not a Conte hater. Quick story: In 2010, my wife and I noticed Sabby getting beaten on just about every play. We talked on it every freakin game. Avid fans, we sill cheered him, and never puublicly badmouthed him. But we went to Atlanta where the Bucs were playing one weekend, and ran into a Bucs fan who drove down from Knoxville for the game. Cool to see other Bucs fans there…he said as we shook hands…”I’m so surprised with Josh and Mike Williams and LeGarrett…” And then he said under his breath after looking both ways: “But WTF us up with Sabby Piscatelli?” And then we talked E.J. Biggers. OMG.
May 28th, 2017 at 4:54 pm
Huh, Fred? Dunn would already be there if that were even a little, tiny, wee, minute bit true. You seem to know way more than the rest of us about the selection process. How’s that?
May 28th, 2017 at 4:55 pm
NO not yet…
May 28th, 2017 at 5:03 pm
Thread to unload on Aguayo,thread to unload on McCoy. Any doubt thère is a Martin post pending?
May 28th, 2017 at 5:14 pm
five more years he is in the top three, possibly the leader, for buccaneer sacks. Add in some playoffs and a possible Super Bowl, he’s a lock
He was not as flashy as some but he has been a top three defense of tackle and consistent year in and year out
May 28th, 2017 at 5:14 pm
Paul Gruber, anyone ?
May 28th, 2017 at 5:20 pm
Mikadeemas….as I said….there are no published rules and its up to ownwership. Didn’t I say it’s about off the field as well as on? You’ll also find same in most every article about the Bucs RoH from now to back when they started it with Selmon. Dunn had to get in line. Lynch is before Dunn for clear reasons. Brooks. No question. No, Dunn would not already be there necessarily as you say. Notice how in 2015 they went BACK to Doug Williams. He took them to the NFL championship and didn’t get a contract extension from his rookie season (issues with Culverhouse), and had a falling out years later with the Bucs in an admin role. Dunn was clearly a staple in the build up to SB years, fan favoriate, and came back later and was still a fan favorite, and huge in the community. Still is. The logic is there. I’ll add one: Ricky Bell. Another reachback guy.
May 28th, 2017 at 5:21 pm
Correction: Doug Williams…NFC Championship…not NFL
May 28th, 2017 at 5:32 pm
Nickerson would already be in if the Glazers would select more than one inductee more often.
May 28th, 2017 at 5:41 pm
The answer is yes McCoy belongs in the Ring of Honor. Fred is right, this is about what they meant to the organization more so than pure stats. Not the same requirements as HOF at all.
One of my favorite Bucs of all time is in there Mike Alstott. He never rushed for 1000 yds and avg 4 ypc once in his career, but he was a bull and a fan favorite though.
My point is Gerald is one of the best at his position and managed to make pro bowls on mediocre at best teams. If he stays with this team as we make playoffs and more I think he is a lock.
May 28th, 2017 at 5:55 pm
And I quote “lead his team to the playoff” jack asses everywhere!!
May 28th, 2017 at 5:57 pm
Nobody is saying right now, when all is said and done, he 100% will be in the ring of honor. He has probably five years left. That’ll get him there. I mean Paul Grover is hardly a hall of gamer and he went in rather obviously. GMC is better.
May 28th, 2017 at 5:58 pm
Gruber. Auto-incorrect fail.
May 28th, 2017 at 6:01 pm
If he stays here for his career he probably would get in. We’ll miss him when he’s gone.
May 28th, 2017 at 6:15 pm
I don’t know about McCoy, but Joe is right about Hardy. He was the guy who signed with what was beyond a lowly team and single handedly brought about an attitude change that was immeasurable– well before Sapp and Brooks arrived. With what he contributed and brought to the team, there is absolutely no reason he shouldn’t be in there
May 28th, 2017 at 6:21 pm
Don’t know if GMC is Cummings or goings onto the Bucs ring of honor. Plenty of very good past players not up there yet.
May 28th, 2017 at 6:48 pm
I still want to know what Buc Greats called him out after this past season telling him he needed to do more.
May 28th, 2017 at 7:04 pm
When will we add — Malcolm Glazer & Gene Deckerhoff?
May 28th, 2017 at 7:16 pm
Of course he’s not there yet, but when it’s all said and done there’s a very good chance he will be. If he has 7 or 8 pro bowls, 5 all pros, and a Super bowl or 2, why the hell wouldn’t he be? Of course there’s tons of work that needs to be done, but I could see him, James, Lavonte, Kwon, Evans, and maybe even V-Jax as possible Ring of Honor guys.
May 28th, 2017 at 7:17 pm
I have been an advocate for mccoy his whole career, but no. Not yet. Lets see how the last 5 or so years pan out, if they continurle the way he is going then yes. But if he declines severely or gets traded no. He would have to be elite to get in while the team has done nothing during his tenure, and he isnt elite. Just very good.
May 28th, 2017 at 7:45 pm
If GMC played harder every down he would be a first time HOF
It’s not his talent that is the question it is his Heart
May 28th, 2017 at 7:58 pm
“If GMC played harder every down he would be a first time HOF
It’s not his talent that is the question it is his Heart”
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Here we go again with the ignorance. I actually respect the morons who question his play more than I do the morons that question his heart. First of all, you don’t know him. You aren’t in the building. You don’t know what he’s made of. You don’t know how much he cares. I’ll ask you this: Why does everyone (players, coaches, and front office personnel) all praise his work ethic? Keep in mind this is multiple regimes. Why does everyone (including James) mention him first when it comes to his play, as well as his leadership? Why wouldn’t they just not bring up his name when they aren’t even being asked to bring up names in the first place? Why do his teammates love him so much if he has no heart? Why is he always a part of virtually every single marketing and, community service gig that comes up? Don’t you think if he didn’t work his arse off they would leave him out? Everyone in the building says he’s great, and some jack wagon anonymous poster on JBF who has never even met him says otherwise. I wonder who I should believe.
May 28th, 2017 at 8:10 pm
This is just stirring another pot Scbucsfan. Why did Cummings even bring it up?
Why even address the subject until the end of a player’s career? Then folks can evaluate his accomplishments in relation to others, especially those already in the Ring of Honor. GMC’s only about two-thirds through his career, hopefully with the Bucs. Trading him? Seriously?
May 28th, 2017 at 8:29 pm
@Magic – funny stuff, I thought the same
May 28th, 2017 at 8:29 pm
James Wilder, Ricky Bell, Batman Wood, and Hardy Nickerson are STILL not in the ROH.
Put them in there before any one more recent.
Hell, Kevin House, Mark Cotney, Cedric Brown, Mark Carrier, and Mike Washington should also merit consideration.
May 28th, 2017 at 8:39 pm
The spirit of 76—
Most of those you mentioned do not deserve it.
Wilder and Nickerson – yes.
ATtain-
Showing some serious ignorance. A true McCoy hater and ignorant football fan.
Just because a player Smiles and actually enjoys the game doesn’t mean they’re not giving it their all and kicking ass. Just listen to his peers not other idiotic ignorant fans.
So sick of that crap.
Unfortunately every city has it, idiotic ignorant fans who want to run out town a great player on the team because they just need something to bitch about
May 28th, 2017 at 8:41 pm
The story of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers can easily be told without McCoy so no need for the Ring of Honor until that changes.
May 28th, 2017 at 8:47 pm
GMC is like the Marvin Gaye album “Here, My Dear”. Critics and fans generally didn’t like the album initially but in retrospect after his passing – people realized how great it really was musically.
Is GMC Sapp? No. He doesn’t have to be. According to his peers, he’s the 52nd most respected colleague for what he does on the field – regardless of position. That is saying something. He has been in Tampa for years and he is among the best DTs in the league and unlike Aaron Donald (who plays with Robert Quinn) or Suh (who plays with Cam Wake) – GMC has NEVER had a Simeon to his Sapp. That is reality. He as always played with B and C list edge rushers and is often double and triple teamed. Take him off the team and Kwon and LD54 suffer – simple as that.
As long as he continues on the path that he is on – he will be in the ring of honor and it won’t be because of astronomical sack numbers. He has been the face of the franchise pre JW3 and he was an all pro level while doing it.
May 28th, 2017 at 8:48 pm
@Ndog
The cement is still wet sir. We don’t know what McCoys legacy will be when he reaches the end of his career.
Getting a ring would go a long way to getting into the ring.
May 28th, 2017 at 8:50 pm
Yep eventually it’s not like he’ll be a priority but he could always change that leading this defense to a glorious super bowl victory but outside of this he’s never been to the playoffs, not saying he’s to blame but he’s a part of a history fans and ownership would love to forget so he’s got work to do
May 28th, 2017 at 9:08 pm
Like I said until that changes, I just won’t be holding my breath waiting for that to happen. Each year I expect more from him and each year I am let down. I have finally learned my lesson.
May 28th, 2017 at 9:10 pm
Not craw, craw!
May 28th, 2017 at 9:21 pm
@ Dave, for the most part, I agree with you – but Ricky Bell really does deserve to go in IMO.
If he was in the original Krewe of Honor at the old stadium then he surely deserves to be in this one.
Who knows what things could have been like had he not suffered from his deadly condition ?
He was a stud back on a team that didn’t have a line that was very good.
That year he had on that 79′ team ? Unreal. I would put that up there with what James Wilder did back in 84′ and 85′.
Regardless though, why is James Wilder not in there as well as Hardware ?
Hardy belongs in the HOF, IMO.
May 28th, 2017 at 9:22 pm
@ Fanalyzer34:
Wasn’t that the album that Gaye had to give proceeds of to his ex-wife so he intentionally recording a lousy album ?
May 28th, 2017 at 9:28 pm
I mean at least one 10 sack season would be nice and him participating in an actual NFL playoff game, perhaps contributing to winning said NFL playoff game, would be beneficial before we start talking Ring of Honor.
May 28th, 2017 at 9:28 pm
Speaking of who deserves to go into rings of honor and the HOF, does anyone know how much longer Hardy Nickerson needs to wait until he is eligible to be voted in as a senior committee nomination ?
It worked for Kenny Easley.
Here is a prediction though:
One day the senior committee will induct Billy Sims and William Gay into the HOF.
If the NFL counted sacks from the 60’s and 70’s Gay would have been a shoo-in by now.
May 28th, 2017 at 9:30 pm
@ BurgDweller:
McCoy got screwed out of a 10 sack season back in 2012.
He sacked Matt Ryan but for some idiotic reason he was only given credit for half a sack, so he finished with 9.5 sacks.
That game is somewhere out there. I re-watched it on YT recently and he was DEFINITELY robbed.
Regardless though, I would like to see at least 13-15.
May 28th, 2017 at 9:37 pm
@thespiritof76 – Yes, that was Marvin’s initial intention but the artist in him wouldn’t allow him to do a garbage album intentionally. I just believe sometimes greatness isn’t always appreciated as is in the moment.
May 28th, 2017 at 9:38 pm
Joe toldnhim off to the point where he’s scared to post. No more maxipad
May 28th, 2017 at 9:44 pm
I wonder what effect, if any, not being a Buccaneer draft pick will have on Nickerson’s chances…
May 28th, 2017 at 9:47 pm
Of course!!!! I don’t ever chime in on people’s feelings (hatred) of GMC. Everyone has an opinion. This guy has done some pretty amazing stuff on a team that’s been horrible. I don’t know what anyone else feels, but I do know this…… if I was a player on a horrible team with fans calling me soft and ice cream? I’d probably take a large contract to a team and fans who really want me! He stayed!!!! With the bs, he stayed!!!!! He stayed with a team that’s showed him umpteen different coaches and players. He’s stayed through the bs fans. Every team in the league wishes they had him, and yet? We still have fans who are so unhappy with themselves that they want a guy out who truly loves being a buccaneer. I vote for him to be in the ring of honor. And really hope he gets a ring here in Tampa. I’m a GMC fan!
May 28th, 2017 at 9:50 pm
McCoy has been a bright spot in a very dark time of Buccaneers history. If the team doesn’t turn it around before he is gone, then obviously there’s no way he makes it. However, if this team becomes what 99.9% of us think they will become, that dark cloud goes away and he becomes celebrated for how good he really is. His individual awards will keep on growing, but he needs the team to be successful to become a Ring of Honor type player. It’s all about the W’s at this point. Once that happens, he will be considered one of the greats.
May 28th, 2017 at 10:08 pm
I’m sorry, Bubba Baker, not Bill Gay.
Baker had 26 sacks back in 78′ for crying out loud.
Baker should have been a first ballot HOF’er.
May 28th, 2017 at 10:11 pm
McCoy is kinda like James Wilder (but fans never hated Wilder like they do Gerald.) Great player on a lot of bad teams. Getting his body beat up. Bucs seem to be in a turnaround mode, unlike the 1980’s when Wilder played.
May 28th, 2017 at 10:14 pm
Gruber’s in.
May 28th, 2017 at 10:25 pm
I don’t like mccoy on tape but I see he makes it one day. Longevity in today’s weak dt class he can make ton of pro bowls and top 100s
May 28th, 2017 at 10:40 pm
Gruber is there and had no Pro Bowls but one first team all-pro (odd). Obviously was not a part of any winning teams….McCoy will get there most likely…after Barber, Malcolm and Hardy…the pickings are slim for awhile
May 28th, 2017 at 10:41 pm
@Lamarcus, just shut up. You’re drunk and or stupid. Either make sense and post or go away. Anyone who wants to try and back some GMC haters with utter nonsense are just trolls or people trying to but in on bs they have no idea about or just trying to be a part of something that has no ground. Dudes been one of only a couple studs the past decade. And YES I call out all GMC haters, yall a bunch of whining crybaby pieces of……… Get over it and except our entire team. Sh!t breath!!!
May 28th, 2017 at 10:41 pm
The BUCS beat the Patriots on TNF! McCoy sacks Brady 2x!!
My predictions are just as good as yours!
May 28th, 2017 at 10:49 pm
Gruber is there and had no Pro Bowls but one first team all-pro (odd). Obviously was not a part of any winning teams….McCoy will get there most likely…after Barber, Malcolm WIlder and Hardy…the pickings are slim for awhile
May 28th, 2017 at 11:17 pm
That’s right Dave ignore the three NFL players who called GMC out
Oh and GMC calling himself out
Jamie’s did call him out tooo
Don’t name call with only the facts you like
May 29th, 2017 at 12:04 am
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May 29th, 2017 at 12:45 am
All these questions about Gerold McCoy end when he is part of a multiple championship team. He has been either the best DT in the NFL since he came into this league and he finally has loads of talent all around him. His time is now.
May 29th, 2017 at 1:18 am
Buccaneer scotty,,,if you don’t belong. You don’t belong. Be gone with you!
May 29th, 2017 at 1:25 am
See ya tomorrow btw..
May 29th, 2017 at 4:14 am
This will be a better topic at the end of this season. He has all the tools to have his best year.
May 29th, 2017 at 5:18 am
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May 29th, 2017 at 5:35 am
Excuse the above- internet gone wacky.
Of Course McCoy belongs in the Ring
And he will be in the Hall of fame
He is not responsible for the stupidity and incompetence of Mark Dominick
He is not responsible for the string of Incompetent coaches he has been forced to play for.
He is not responsible for the talentless teams he has had to play with
He is responsible for his play. Which has impressed everyone in the league. Thats why he stays in the top 100, out of 1700 players.
His play, along with his professionalism to put up with lousy coaches and endless defensive coordinators, will get him in the Hall in short order.
Despite the haters here- who are love struck with McCoy- and bitter that they are ignored by him
Looking at you, Tmaxipad and DB55.
McCoy is a monsterous talent. The Bucs have wasted the best years of his career- due to blatant stupidity.
After all these years- they STILL DONT HAVE A DECENT DE TO HELP MCCOY!!
It boggles the mind.
Not one dangerous DE on this team.
Its a shame.
May 29th, 2017 at 7:54 am
Noooooo waaaayyyy!! GMAC has been “the leader” of some very underwhelming teams since he has arrived. He can’t stay healthy, he takes plays off, he easily gets disheartened after getting stonewalled after 2-3 series in a game. He is a follower. In fact, he couldn’t hold Kewann Short’s jock strap (in determination and drive). Besides, Trai Turner and Ryan Khalil have owned GMAC.
I really thought Kwon Alexander and Winston would finally bring the dog out of GMAC, but that has yet to happen and if it doesn’t happen this year then it never will. I don’t see the desire in McCoy to elevate his play to warrant an induction to the Buccaneer ROH so far. I will say this, when he smells blood from a young offensive lineman, he is relentless.
I’m a Buc through and through and I’m pulling for GMAC to be a HOFer and GMAC is very intelligent and extremely outgoing. I think he has a bright business future. I am just waiting to see his “over-my-dead-body-attitude to surface. And when I do I will come in here and say “THERE IT IS” and that I was wrong. Until then, I stand by my humble opinion.
Go Bucs!!
May 29th, 2017 at 9:23 am
There’s about 31 other NFL teams and an entire league in Canada who would take GMC in a heartbeat. Buc fans who don’t like him are akin to the fools who screamed for “I told you so” for Mariota after he threw 6 slants against Coach My Scheme 2 Septembers ago.