Was GMC Right?

April 18th, 2017

Confession may be off.

As Joe wrote yesterday, the contrast in the demeanor and body language between the two high-profile Bucs players taking the podium at One Buc Palace couldn’t have been more stark.

America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, was bursting with enthusiasm and charisma. He could barely contain his excitement about being back with his teammates for the first time since the 2016 season ended.

If Joe didn’t know any better, it was as if Jameis woke up Christmas morning and found Kate Upton in a naughty Santa outfit beneath the tree, cooing him for his embrace.

GMC? Man. Joe thought he was a priest sitting in a confessional listening to GMC recount his sins.

At one point, Joe didn’t know if GMC was going to shed a tear he sounded so depressed. Drooped over the podium, GMC spoke of mistakes made and talked openly about how many seasons he thought he may have left in the tank because his body is feeling the seasons of punishment.

You could have heard a pin drop in the place it got so sullen. Joe was actually waiting for GMC to recite the Act of Contrition. Jameis? He was so geeked he looked as if he was about to jump off the lectern and race someone in a 40-yard dash.

One reason GMC seemed depressed? He believes he hasn’t been able to make enough fourth quarter plays to help his team win.

Of course, his vocal critics, reading GMC’s words on Twitter, jumped up and down with glee. For years these folks have gone hoarse hollering for his head on a platter, drooling like mongrels in the night and chomping at the bit to pay for GMC’s U-Haul account. GMC’s words seemed to vindicate the loud crowd.

But do they? Thomas Bassinger of the Tampa Bay Times ran the numbers and his research shows that in fact, GMC does show up in the fourth quarter.

@tometrics: Of Gerald McCoy’s 42 career sacks, 13 of them (31 percent) have come in the fourth quarter.

If a third of your sacks come in the final quarter, Joe doesn’t think that is too shabby. And here is something else to ponder: for the better part of his career, GMC has been on garbage teams. Who the hell was throwing the ball on the Bucs in the fourth quarter over the years? Teams more often than not had leads. Why would they throw?

Isn’t it kind of hard to rack up sacks when a team is running the ball to kill the clock?

78 Responses to “Was GMC Right?”

  1. BigHogHaynes Says:

    They gave him nothing to work with, the BUCS couldn’t find a DE to complement THE GREAT GMC, the BUCS couldn’t draft a DE to come in and be that GUY that would be feared coming off the edge! All I continue to hear is jackasses saying stupid stuff like he didn’t make the players around him better! How? Somebody please can you make hot garbage smell better…but he damn sure he got paid his worth! GO GMC!

  2. tnew Says:

    So now, GMC himself, has been given advice, by trusted counsel, counsel that care not lame poster or bloggers or even media personalities. He is told he has the opportunity to elevate his performance to match his extreme potential, and rather than tipping your cap to him for identifying and admitting an area of weakness, as perceived by “credible sources” and now himself. Instead of slapping him on the back and congratulating him for acknowledging him for renewing commitment to improve, rather than supporting him for the difficult work that only a few ever do to go to the next level of impact…

    Your going to argue with him by saying, Hey Gerald, your wrong, it’s all good.

    If I had a pipeline to the guy, I would shake his hand, look him in the eye and tell him “Go be great”

    I’m off to go buy my McCoy jersey.

  3. Canadianbucsfan Says:

    This team has been a losing team cause of GMC not because of all the terrible players that he has had to play with. Until Jameis look at the lists of QB this team has had. GMC will break the 10 sack mark this year. Mark my word

  4. Buc 4ever Says:

    In the past 3 years he has 22 sacks and 0 were in the 4th quarter. Is his conditioning where it need to be? NO! Jameis thought he was in shape until he went to the pro bowl and saw the other players, including QBs. Look what he has done the past two off seasons, transform his body. McCoy doesn’t appear to have the drive or mentality to want to be a champion. I’m sure many superstars including Sapp has told him this and he is finally realizing it. He is a good player, but not an Alpha-Dog, which is what we need on defense. He is not THE MAN among men. When Ayers played last you year Mccoy was better because Mccoy would follow Ayers lead. If we had one more big dog in there Mccoy would be ok.

  5. Memphissippian Buc Says:

    I know we (I) say this every year, but I am extremely excited about the upcoming season. Would love the safety out of LSU but I’m dreaming, to shore up our Safety position in the draft would have me feeling even better.

  6. R.O. Says:

    I’m tired of commenting on sacks.. Sacks are the most overrated stat for a defense and/or a player. I’ve always said it’s the timing of the sack. Pressures, TFLs in the run game, batted balls. GMC is not a disruptor.. JJ Watt is a disruptor.

  7. Capt.Tim Says:

    GMC stated that his concerns werent due to his play.
    He wants to emulate Sapp- abd be a force in the 1st and Forth Quarters.,

    As has been written about here before- Opposing teams gave to plan for McCoy. And the strategy is always the same.
    Tire him out, with an endless stream of Double teams.

    They can do this, because the Bucs coaching staff and ownership has SUCKED!!!!!
    How do you waste the Best defensive Tackle in the league?
    A new defensive Coordinator every year!!
    Has to learn a new defense every year!
    No help on the line. Keep a stable of no-name, talentless DEs and DTs.
    That way Our prize DTs fights double teams all game, while the rest of the line stands there, with their Thumbs up their wazoo.

    You could hear the bitterness in his voice, when he talked about how he had never been to a playoff game in his career!!

    Or about the line” I dont make decisions here, I just take who they send me”

    The only time he seemed excited, was when he was talking about the offense.

    Its Scary, when you best defensive player seems that depressed, at the beginning of off season training

    I know some of you dont think hes our best defender
    Buuuut, you’re idiots. Anyone who matters knows better!

    Bucs better get McCoy reenergized, or it could be a long season

  8. Capt.Tim Says:

    R.O.
    McCoy is a defensive Tackle.
    JJWatts is a defensive end!

    Can you guys REALLY be that CLUELESS??
    Its both enbarrassing , and nauseating!.

  9. Kevinthepainterimagine Says:

    Hes one pwrson who has been surroundednothing. I do love yhe new attitude any time you think your good enough and comftorable you wont improve. Go get it gerald!

  10. teacherman777 Says:

    @capt. tim

    thanks bro. you nailed it.

    I completely agree with you.

    GMC has faced double teams for years.

    He has never had a great DE next to him except for Michael Bennett. And the one season they started together under Schiano, they tore up the league in sacks and tackles for loss.

    The year we let Michael Bennett walk,

    I was calling for us to re-sign Michael Bennett

    AND sign Cliff Avril.

    Instead, the Seahawks signed them BOTH on 1 year 5 million dollar contracts.

    Now look? The Seahawks have been dominant ever since.

    Letting Michael Bennet walk (because he questioned Schiano’s authority) was one of the biggest mistakes in Bucs history.

    But, we must look ahead.

    We need another DE in the first round.

    I want the deepest D-line in the NFL.

    Its how the Giants and Seahawks have won Superbowls.

    Shore up the D-Line!

  11. Jeremy Says:

    After the short time of 8 years GMC has finally discovered that he must make plays in the 4th quarter… eye opening, who knew…

  12. Bobby M. Says:

    Bucs, specifically Dominick, allowed the two most productive pass rushers (White and Bennett) to walk in favor of getting his garbage 1st and 2nd Rd picks on the field. White who was not stellar but productive had more sacks in his career then Clayborne and Bowers combined. It’s truly pathetic how McCoys talent was wasted under the regime of Dominick and Morris/Schiano

  13. Defense Rules Says:

    Lest we forget, last year’s 9-7 record … the first winning record in many years … was more about our defense stepping up than our offense. Hopefully BOTH sides of the ball step up their game big-time this year, and Bucs improve on that record. For that to happen, EVERY player needs to step up their game. I think GMC has evaluated his own play during these months off and decided where & how he needs to improve. Bravo! Personally hope all the players have done the same. Fans & media spend way too much time picking apart every little thing a player says, and reading far too much ‘between the lines’. Words don’t mean diddly … what counts is what happens on the field on game days. Go Bucs!

  14. Bird Says:

    Let’s see what his numbers are this year with a 320-340 man space eater next to him in Chris baker. Teams can’t double both of them

  15. Kelvin Says:

    GMC is a beast of a player. He is way better than people around here give him credit for and far better than what he self acknowledges to be. I’m not scared about his attitude this time around. I believe different kinds of personalities self motivate themselves in different ways. Jamie’s endless joy is his natural way of being, now in Mackoy’s case is a matter of him being that way. Maturity levels are very different between those two and we just need to be supportive and keep rooting for the guy. He is my guy and I’m ok with his way of being and express his feelings. Just a matter of adding a few pieces to that defense that can take some of the pressure off of him. Thinks about this: imagine a guy with LSU’s Jamal Adams coming to town with his unique personality and energy and passion to take on the role of enthusiastic leadership from now on and then someone like Auburn’s Montravious Adams to spell GMC out and keep the veteran fresh during games. That would be the formula to make the most out of him during the next 3 years of his prime. Be smart Bucs fans and front office.

  16. Rrsrq Says:

    GMC didn’t sound depressed, he just sounded like a guy re-evaluating his approach, not sullen but serious. GMC is a top talent on the defensive line in this league, his peers (confidantes) shared that with him, who on the field did GMC get to learn from when he first got to Tampa. Sapp could only do so much, he wasn’t in the locker room with this guy. Those who criticize the man need to look around, there are only a handful better, in other words just like quarterbacks, elite ones don’t grow on trees.

  17. Bird Says:

    Plus playoffs could cheer anyone up. Hope bucs take that next step! Not an easy schedule by any means .

  18. BucsQcCity Says:

    He’s a pretty good player but not a great one when healthy. The problem is that he was almost the only above average talent the Bucs had under Rockstar so he was casted in the leader role which he’s obviously not. He should improve in a more talented defense where he can be himself.

    If he doesn’t produce with Baker, Spence and Ayers and a blitzing Lavonte David it’ll be hard to use the no-help excuse

  19. Tampa Tony Says:

    Not every player is clutch, no shame in being very good.

    Just how everyone is so quick to give Jameis the franchise qb label because of Tampas awful history of QB’s

    The ghost of Sapp raises the standard for what fans expect out of a undertackle

  20. tnew Says:

    Teacherman.. you know who the Seahawks are looking hard at.. Malik McDowell. I hope Licht is checking this kid out. He looks the part.

  21. DallasBuc Says:

    McCoy is such a McCoy hater

  22. A-Train Says:

    SO if the people bash GMC they are stupid and don’t know football.

    Pro players call him out and GMC comes out and says he is not playing hard enough

    AND JOE STILL DEFENDS HIM…..JOE I think GMC knows himself LISTEN

    OK great GMC has some STATS whoooooo

    BUT HE NEEDS TO LEAD>>>CALL OUT PLAYERS …PLAY HARD EVER DOWN

    That’s the criticism on GMC and even he sees it now..

    Man JOE I hope GMC is buying you nice Christmas gifts…

  23. Red86 Says:

    Joe you’re missing the points.

    Many time G Mac had a average to good first half. I’m all pumped yelling for the bucs at my Louisiana home. Then in the same game in the second half, he is no where to be found as far as tackles, tackles for loss, or sacks. It is false that he is doubled all the time. Several critical something and goal, he get manhandled by one o linemen(pushed back 3 yards or more) for a touchdown. But, a field goal or turnover would’ve been great for the team. He has a consistency problem. I’ve notice poor techniques as the game goes on. Like not being low enough off a snap. Or he would stop using his hands and driving his legs.

    He doesn’t come up big in the clutch situation as much. Clutch situation could be in any quarter not just the fourth quarter. Example the Bucs has the lead going into the halftime but our opponent goes 80 yards on 10 plays to tie the game and get the ball back after the break. Or our opponent has momentum and is winning by 1 td in the 3rd, but a 3rd down stop can flip the momentum around.

    Clutch play don’t always have to be a sack. It could be a tackle for loss, a tackle for short gain, or stop at the line of scrimmage at an important time. Most importantly, get off the field on 3rd down giving 3 pts or less via miss field goal or punt.

    I like and respect this new humbled McCoy. I always thought he was a good person since his first year to this year. The film don’t lie about what is and isn’t being done.

  24. Q Says:

    His 4th quarter numbers are when the game has been decided….ive seen him save the day twice …once in atlanta and another vs the saints….other than that his numbers come at garbage time…sorry to burst a bubble

  25. BucTrooper Says:

    Every year GMC has some acid trip revelation of his true purpose in life and every year he puts together a fairly mediocre year.

    I know there’s an argument about how good/bad McCoy really is but here’s what is my litmus test: what was McCoy’s signature game? I can think of 3 or 4 Sapp Signature games. In 7 years, McCoy doesn’t have that ONE game where he just went crazy and took over. All I remember are injuries and a couple of games where he failed to record a stat.

  26. Hodad Says:

    Maybe the reason GMC has been worn down in the fourth quarter is because our defense as a whole is on the field way to much in the first three quarters. The best defense, is a good offense, ours hasn’t been good enough. We don’t need safeties, we need play makers who can score more points. Look at the final score of the last super bowl. It wasn’t a 17, 16 crap fest like our last game, where both teams offenses couldn’t get out of their own way. It was a shoot out. We need to stop bringing knives to gun fights. We need us some fire power! DJax was a good start, let’s load up on some more weapons for Jameis next week.

  27. D-Rome Says:

    How many game changing 4th quarter sacks do Aaron Donaldson and Ndamukong Suh have? I’d venture to guess their numbers do not look very good either.

    The team has failed putting together a solid defensive line. I’d be willing to bet that McCoy’s numbers would look much improved if the team had a DE that could muster 10 sacks. Buc fans around here have been getting excited for garbage pass rushers like Jac Smith, Akeem Spence, and Will Gholston for years. These are the same fans who bang the drum for the Bucs to draft a RB in the first round when shoring up the defensive line should be the biggest priority.

  28. D-Rome Says:

    Bah…phone. I meant Aaron Donald

  29. NycBuc Says:

    ‘Um, Mr. Brady, can we line up?’ McCoy said. McCoy is soft, he’s no leader, I can’t stand listening to his bs. Seeing him on hard knocks would make me want to vomit.

  30. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Hey A-Train I will guarantee you none of these “trusted sources” told him is soft serve and should give up the game because he sucks at football. The haters on this site want him cut and call him names. That is the definition of a hater. To a man I bet they all said, you are a very good player but could be great if you works on a couple of things. The neanderthals on here would rather cut him and draft a defensive tackle in the 5th round to take his place. That is real smart! SMH

  31. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I liked what he posted later on, Joe:

    Thomas Bassinger added
    “Of Warren Sapp’s 96.5 career sacks, 31.5 of them (33 percent) came in the fourth quarter or in overtime.”

    Thomas Bassinger added
    “Of Gerald McCoy’s 42 career sacks, 13 of them (31 percent) have come in the fourth quarter.”

  32. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Sapp = 33% in 4th quarter.

    McCoy = 31%

  33. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    Sacks are whatever, its his attitude about winning that kills me, probably if he had the same fire in his belly that Jameis has then probably he would want the sacks a little more…but he is confident getting ice cream after the game and would be happy win or lose….his attitude is bad for a team on the rise he already got to LVD, wish kwon would push him aside and be the man

  34. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Sapp = 7 Pro Bowls
    McCoy = 5 Pro Bowls (still time left for more)

  35. Eric Says:

    Needs counseling I guess.

    And the other people who convinced him he sucks may be wrong?

    Stuart Smalley stuff.

  36. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Dusthty Rhothdes Says
    “Sacks are whatever, its his attitude about winning that kills me…”

    It’s not the attitude toward winning. He WANTS to win.

    When he was drafted, he was told the team would build around him. Did they? Really?

    Nope. Dominick tried and failed.

    So now McCoy might have only 5 years left in his career, and he’s thinking more about legacy now. He’s wondering what his chances are to build one, and how is he going to do it with very little help from the staff (unless things change).

    I think he has also seen how Jameis is leading and demanding 110% from his offense, and McCoy wants to start demanding the same from the defense.

    Remember, when McCoy was drafted, this team needed calm, hard-working leadership. We had several discipline problems on the team at the time. So he settled into that leadership style. It might not be the kind of leadership you like, but it is still good leadership. Had this team actually built around him properly, he would have helped the defense get better and he would have gotten 12-14 sacks per year. But he’s been alone on the line until last year.

    I think he’s going to become a more aggressive leader as of this year. And if Licht drafts another top DE…just watch how GMCs stats improve this year.

  37. TouchDownTampaBay Says:

    Bonzai, Sapp also played when the Bucs were winning a lot of games and teams had to throw more in the 4th quarter vs the teams that McCoy has played on.

  38. Destinjohnny Says:

    Just lead by example. Don’t over think it. Make plays

  39. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Ask yourself this…if the Bucs had added a Simeon Rice-type of player by McCoy’s 4th year, do you think things would have changed for McCoy? Of course they would have. They would have fed off one another.

  40. Chris Says:

    LOL Bonzai, …..really, pro bowls……ha ha ha….you can’t podsibly be comparing Mccoy to Sapp. I know you’re one of his biggest apologists but cmon. The man himself has admitted he’s too soft. The problem is, you and some here love his choir boy act. Joe likes him cause he’s the easiest guy to get a quote from. He has squandered his peak years. That’s why the solemness Joe. He’s realizing he could have beem better and has wasted it.News for you , guys, He’s approaching his down years, it happened to Sapp at this time, its happening to him and he knows it.

  41. Chris Says:

    Sapp was Sapp before Simeon Rice, with stiffs like Reagen Upshaw and Chidi with him.

  42. Chris Says:

    He might have 5, or less, but the days of sniffing 10 sacks are drawing near a close

  43. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    The guy does not have the aggressive wake you up leadership style in him, it just isnt part of his nature, as stated above by someone else, as soon as he gave that “eat some ice cream” speech before the dallas game, I knew dak prescott would light the defense up, he just is not “that guy”

  44. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    R.O.’s position might be off but his premise is on the money. D@$! pointless sacks,strip sacks where its at. Pressures,TFL,force fumbles on RBs, and occasional batted ball. Go check Swaggy stat line over the last three season you’ll see what R.O. and myself are talking about. Keep them whack @$$ meaningless 10 sacks y’all so thirsty for.

  45. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    I’ll take 60 pressures in a season over 10 sacks any day.

  46. A-Train Says:

    Touch Down

    I don’t believe I have ever said cut him..IN FACT I have not…

    I have criticized GMC for not being the GREAT player he could be…

    I believe GMC could be better than SAPP however he needs to be a LEADER..

    STOP with the ProBowl B.S. please a popularity contest at best…

    Watch a game and you can see him take plays off

    If GMC is labeled a GOOD player I would agree..He is GOOD

    HE is not GREAT /// HE needs to take some of Ayers fire and LEAD which means play hard ever play.. CALL out players who don’t just like Jamies called him out.

    TRADE HIM…HAHAHA That is the dumbest idea ATRAIN would never say that.

  47. Nole on Sat.-Bucc on Sun. Says:

    A-Train if he had what Sapp has inside his chest he would actually be better. I’m curious to know something tho considering many here claim RBs don’t really attribute to Superbowl winning success. How many NFL sack leaders have won Superbowls over the last 10 seasons???

  48. D-Rome Says:

    Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
    April 18th, 2017 at 8:47 am

    Sapp = 7 Pro Bowls
    McCoy = 5 Pro Bowls (still time left for more)

    Exactly right Bonzai.

    Folks, if McCoy makes a couple of more Pro Bowls and a couple of All-Pro teams (doesn’t matter if it’s 1st or 2nd team) he will be a Hall of Famer at some point. He’ll be a HoFer especially if the Bucs make it to another Super Bowl. I know it kills the “fans” around here to even read that but in his era very few DTs have been better.

  49. Eric Says:

    Does anybody else realize how McCoy’s demeanor all changed the year we drafted Jameis? His behavior was strange. He seemed depressed.

    I do want to acknowledge that I do not like his personality. He is way too nice and the fact he is all smiles when we lost for so long still annoys me. I have yet to see real anger come from him. I feel as if he may have been content being the best player on a bad team. He didn’t have that fire to win.

    However, McCoy is a top 3 DT and if you disagree it’s because he is the only consistency on this team over the past three coaches, which have all been failures. You correlate the team’s underachievement to him, since he’s been around for it all. He was and still may be the best player on this team, though. Maybe Jameis will be able to have an effect on him. He has already influenced him in several ways. McCoy, in my opinion, was upset when he realized he was no longer the star. Remember he wouldn’t even engage in the pre game hype? He was jealous and now he is realizing the truth, he hasn’t played up to his potential and jameis has exceeded expectations and turned this franchise around in 2 years. If he can step it up and acquire the fire JW has, then he could have his best season of his career, with elite numbers. It’s just unfortunate because I don’t think he would have ever learned and been okay with being a crappy team unless it was for jw.

    Thank God for Jameis Winston.

  50. Buc1987 Says:

    It’s 3rd and 2 Gerald at a crucial point in the game, we need you to make a play….

    Not gonna happen.

  51. Buc1987 Says:

    Eric Says:

    “Does anybody else realize how McCoy’s demeanor all changed the year we drafted Jameis? His behavior was strange. He seemed depressed.”

    Eric I was just thinking that myself. Thinking about how much in awe GMC must have been of Jameis Winston. Winston might have made him feel uncomfortable or inadequate. He certainly was trying during those pre-game speeches. Then we all made fun of him.

    Jameis Winston has raised the level of play for every position. No excuses anymore. That includes the GM and owners as well. He was a gift from the football Gods and we Buc fans deserve him.

  52. bucs_365 Says:

    The gist of what he said was about finding a way to lead a team to win, not whether he records sacks in the 4th quarter. How many game changing plays has he made… things of that nature. I think he was being a little hard on himself, but he wants more. I admire the fact that he is still looking for ways to be better. The haters will use this as ammo. I’m with Gerald. If we had a bunch of guys who had the ability and effort of McCoy, we wouldn’t have suffered all those losing years. He’s the least of our concerns.

  53. Eric Says:

    yo Buc1987 did you say you live in nc?

  54. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    The problem with the GMC debates is folks get too black and white. Expectations for GMC were clearly off the charts after Sapp. GMC is just as clearly not a first ballot HOFer.

    There is a lot of room between being Warren Sapp one of the all time greats…and a player so awful that he SINGLE HANDEDLY according to at least one poster here…has made the Bucs awful. If McCoy has 5 more sack per season and they were all in the 4th quarter the Bucs STILL would have sucked. McCoy’s last name was no McCown or Glennon or JFro. It’s not just that we never found the right DE to pair with him our team has been a hot mess until the last two years!!!! In virtually EVERY area.

    For me the bottom line is exactly what GMC has laid out. GMC has been a very good player…but he hasn’t been great. This disappoints the fans and apparently after yesterday’s presser it has disappointed McCoy as well.

    I wish him the best. But rememeber one thing…McCoy is still NOT SAPP. He can improve but he still the same athlete and that’s NOT Warren Sapp.

    But if McCoy has a career year that would be awesome even if it doesn’t resemble Sapp. He just has to be the excellent GMC.

    If we have enough players turn in career years at this point we now have enough talent to visit Minny. If you look at championship teams and break them down it’s no coincidence how many players turn in career years. Let’s hope GMC gets his this year. GO BUCS!

  55. PRBucFan Says:

    Jajajaja

    Now GMC is wrong about himself?

    Gotcha

    Point is, sacks or otherwise GMC doesn’t impact games in the fourth quarter and HE ADMITS IT, so what’s left to debate about? That is all.

  56. Chris Says:

    Nc here, would love a Triangle are Bucs club

  57. jjBucFan Says:

    We wasted McCoys best years with a completely a completely anemic offense for 7/8 of his career. We never gave him a running mate on the line and he still has been a top 3 tackle for his entire career. It was either him or Suh. We got the better guy (for once). A lot of the people complaining about McCoy are the same people that say Jameis had no WRs and Jameis had no running game or Jameis has no O-line so how can he win games by himself? Consider that McCoy may be the Jameis of the defense. McCoy has had no D-line consistency or help from the inside or outside. Our DBs have sucked for years. Yes we had Revis (during his rehab year) but other than that who have we had? Grimes last year was the first legit CB we have had maybe since Ricky Reynolds and he is in his 30’s. Teams have beaten us with 2-3 steps drops and the freaking slants. Hard to get to the QB when your DBs are 10-15 yards off the line and they are just crushing you with those passes and you think that your defensive scheme works so you don’t change it. You guys are ridiculous. This is a team sport. He has had the great LBs and nothing else to work with. Get over yourselves.

  58. jjBucFan Says:

    ^ Ummmmm sorry Ronde you are the best we have ever had…Brain fart. But still it has been since he retired that we have had no one!

  59. Ysosyria Says:

    Breaking news

    McCoy out (foot) 6-8 weeks after walking away from the press conference

  60. FLyBoy Says:

    “Of Gerald McCoy’s 42 career sacks, 13 of them (31 percent) have come in the fourth quarter.”

    I love GMC. I think he was on some pretty crappy teams but he can be a beast. With those 13 4th Qtr sacks, how many of them were when we are trailing by 7points or less. Sapp would take over games in the 4th Qtr. I think GMC now has the help with Baker on the inside. We now have decent DEs that can get pressure with Ayers and Spence. We now have a legitimate Line that can be a force. GMC will be able to take control on the game in the 4th Qtr now. Hopefully, GMC can raise that percentage to a higher number.

  61. Eric Says:

    chris I live in cary. im down!

  62. BradentuckeyBuc Says:

    GMC is the Tim Duncan of the NFL. He leads by example, not with a fiery personality or a big mouth. Unfortunately for most of his career thus far, he’s had to try and do it by himself.

  63. Joe Says:

    His 4th quarter numbers are when the game has been decided….ive seen him save the day twice …once in atlanta and another vs the saints….other than that his numbers come at garbage time…sorry to burst a bubble

    Saw GMC tip an Alex Smith pass in Kansas City that Chris Conte picked in the end zone to seal a win.

  64. shouldhavedraftedefiert Says:

    We already knew this. I love his humility and acceptance of that fact. I think they’ll draft a DT in 1st round so he can groom them for the spot. Forget cook, that Dline needs some freeesh….

  65. unbelievable Says:

    It’s funny how many of you people just block out information that you don’t like. (Seems to be an epidemic in this country as of late). I can think of 3 games in the last 2 years alone where GMC made a play in the 4th, if not one of the final plays of the game, to help seal a victory for us.

    But hey if this makes McCoy come back and play even harder next season, I’m all for it. We’d all like to see him be even more dominant, but is there any single guy you don’t want to see play even harder / better? Honestly?

    Also:

    Buccaneer Bonzai Says:
    April 18th, 2017 at 8:45 am

    Thomas Bassinger added
    “Of Warren Sapp’s 96.5 career sacks, 31.5 of them (33 percent) came in the fourth quarter or in overtime.”

    Thomas Bassinger added
    “Of Gerald McCoy’s 42 career sacks, 13 of them (31 percent) have come in the fourth quarter.”

    #perspective

  66. Bucsfanman Says:

    Name ONE player on this team that does not need to improve!!!! I’m ecstatic that he feels that he can do better.
    We’re better WITH GMC than without……..that’s a fact!
    Go get ’em GMC! Get fired up!!!

  67. webster Says:

    To those calling people clueless about watt playing de…..watt plays both de and dt. Who is the clueless one now? Joe, its not all about sacks. Sapp did more than sack a qb. His constant beating of double teams which led quaterbacks to run right or left into a defensive end for sacks. Sapp did not get the sack, but ahanatou or jones or culpepper did. Thats how sapp made those guys better. Marcus jones, ahanatou or culpepper did not put up those numbers once they left sapp. We keep talking about defensive ends for mccoy, but he does not chase the qb into the arms of our ends which would/could inflate their stats. Mccoy is good but he disappears. He had zero tackles against dallas and 2 tackles against the saints. Those are the moments he is supposed to be great. Hats off to mccoy for finally realizing he is lacking in a lot of areas.

  68. Bucsfanman Says:

    @webster- Not for nothing but, name a defensive player that played “well” against Dallas.
    And, at least the DEs and DTs you mention got pressure. We haven’t had that since Michael Bennett (Sorry to bring it up Joe!).
    The guy said he can do better. Lets see what he can do.

  69. webster Says:

    @ bucfan

    GMC is suppose to be the best dt in the league right? He is suppose to be a pro bowler right? You mean to tell me he could not make one play against dallas?. Ever heard of if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. FYI…kwon had 21 tackles against dallas (a warrior from day one). And pro bowls for many are a popularity contest. David should have been to more and kwon should have made it last year. And no, ahanatou, marcus jones did not get pressure. Rice got pressure. Ahanatou, jones got double digits because they played with sapp. Look at their numbers when they left still in their primes. They came no where near 10 sacks they enjoyed while playing with sapp. Sapp was the straw period. Mccoy is simply part of the drink as of now.

  70. Bucsfanman Says:

    @webster- I’m not arguing your point about GMC. But you’re wrong about the supporting cast around Sapp. While they weren’t all Simeon Rice, Marcus was a menace and Chidi was one of the most underrated DEs in the league IMO. Ask Sapp about Culpepper. On their own, no, they weren’t “great”. Then again, look at Sapp’s #s in Oakland. Plus, that team had a few little-known defensive players behind them! Brooks, Nickerson, Barber, Lynch, and a few others. You don’t think having that secondary helped that D-line and Sapp get those #s?
    Sapp was a generational player. We need to completely stop trying to compare anything those teams did compared to now. It’s simply unfair to compare when Sapp’s defenses were sooooooo good. Yea, we have Kwon now, LVD, and maybe Hargreaves becomes a talent but do I have to remind you of what this D looked like 3 years ago?!
    GMC may be just “part of the drink” for his career. That’s OK, he just has to continue producing. Maybe the Bucs will finally bolster that defense and get the guy a few of those Chidi’s, or Culpepper’s, or even a Rice. Wouldn’t that be something?!

  71. DB55 Says:

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  72. webster Says:

    @ bucsfan

    Then you are missing my point. I keep reading mccoy has no one on the line with him ie no double digit sack guys and that is why he has not been able to shine. I see it another way. Who has mccoy made better or demanded them to raise their level of play like sapp did? What i am saying sapp did not have double digit sack guys either. They became double digit sack guys when they played with sapp because he made them better and demanded them step up their play. Did you not hear of the sapp and ahanatou fight in the lockeroom because sapp thought ahanatou was slacking? Do you remember sapp going into the breakfast hall in san diego after berman called them the yucks? Sapp told the entire team in 1996 that that $ht stops today. Demanded every player to step up. Do you remember sapp not liking keshawn because he openly questioned his committment?

    Sapp could take the same lines that mccoy has played with and we would have seen double digit sack guys. When in oakland, sapp played in a 3-4 defense and he still produced a 10 sack season over there and another 5 sack season. He had 20 sacks over his last 4 years. I am not comparing defenses, im comparing player to player. Im comparing the impact defensive players of today as well to mccoy (see the story on nfl.com about khalil mack). Too many like to give mccoy the great status and that narrative is false. He is good and that is it. Being good does not elevate those around you. Being good does not equate to team success. Being good is simply that …..good. Im again thankful that mccoy and his 3 trusted sources are aware of that now. Maybe the great will come out now.

  73. D-Rome Says:

    To those calling people clueless about watt playing de…..watt plays both de and dt. Who is the clueless one now?

    Yeah….on a defensive line that features Vince Wilfork and Jadaveon Clowney. Imagine how good McCoy’s numbers would look like if he was playing with one of those guys.

  74. Buc1987 Says:

    Chris and Eric….when I lived in Raleigh there was a Bucs Fan Club that met every Sunday at Jillian’s. Of course that was like 15 years ago, but I found them without the internet. It was in the News & Observer sports section back then. About 10-15 of us or so. Good times,

    Watched the Bucs win the SB from my apartment in Raleigh. Surprised the cops were never called. One of the only things I like about the TB area is the Bucs. If they go, I’ll most likely go too eventually.

  75. webster Says:

    @ drome

    Uh no. Clowney has been hurt up until last year and watt did not play. Watt had already been a beast prior to clowney ala the way sapp was a beast prior to rice. Also watt only played with wilfork for one year in 2015. He had already had 3 double digit sack seasons with two seasons being 20+ sacks prior to wilfork. Sorry try again young grass hopper

  76. webster Says:

    @ drome

    Btw..in 2015 when clowney did manage to play 13 games, he only had 4.5 sacks. I mean thats will gholston type numbers or ghost johnson as joe would say. Tell me how is that so much of an advantage over what mccoy has with jaq smith, ayers gholston? Its not. You are only looking at name.

  77. DB55 Says:

    You go Web hitt’em with facts. They don’t like those things. Like a cat to water.

  78. Bucsfanman Says:

    @webster- We’re on the same page. GMC is not the generational player Sapp was. He’s good but not great. I think it’s more a testament to the era, perhaps. His stats say he’s top 10 but when you break it down as we have, he doesn’t meet the standards associated with a player of his “caliber”.
    I like that he feels he can be better. They can ALL be better!