“Electric”

January 10th, 2017
Valuable receiver for depth.

Valuable receiver for depth.

Spoiler alert: as you’ll hear in Thursday’s edition of the Ira Kaufman Podcast, the topic of wide receivers is long and deep.

In the podcast, Joe mentions the Bucs need depth at wide receiver nearly as much as a stud to play opposite Mike Evans.

For example, the Steelers run out all of their wide receivers during games and, with the possible exception of Sammie Coates, who couldn’t catch a cold, Joe is convinced every reserve receiver on the Steelers’ roster could start for the Bucs.

The hastag #WeaponsForWinston is on every social media platform known in the free world in an effort to beg, plead, encourage Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht to get more toys for Jameis to throw to.

This same subject was a talking point in a recent Bucs Uncensored podcast from Joe’s good friend “The Commish,” Justin Pawlowski. He too is thinking like Joe; it shouldn’t just be a top shelf receiver targeted by Licht, but guys with skills for depth.

One such player Pawlowski has in his sights is Vikings wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson, who Pawlowski deems “electric.”

“[The Bucs need] a guy who can take a short pass and take it the distance, something Dirk Koetter pointed out specifically in his press conference,” Pawlowski said. “Cordarrelle Patterson can. He’s not a No. 1, he’s probably not even a No. 2. I think he is a guy you will throw out there a few plays a game and try to get the ball in his hands.

“And unlike Charles Sims, once [Patterson] gets the ball in his hands, he can be electric. Speaking of being electric, on punt and kick returns he is equally electric.”

This is exactly the kind of depth guy Joe speaks is referencing, a guy who can stretch the field off the bench and defenses must respect. A guy who can do more things than just play wide receiver a half-dozen times a game unless he is starting for an injured starter.

If the Bucs can find two guys like this, and a bonafide No. 2 receiver to join Adam Humphries and Evans, now you are cooking with gas.

And by the way, if you aren’t listening to Pawlowski’s podcasts, what the hell is the matter with you?

56 Responses to ““Electric””

  1. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    Hunter Renfrow was a hero last night!!! He was recruited LITERALLY as the next Adam Humphries at Clemson.

    Flash and speed are certainly requisites for a great receiver…but hands…brains to find the open spot…courage…Hump has all of that. And all teams need that kind of dependable go to guy.

    So you add Terrelle Pryor and you have a legitimate #2…perhaps #1 in the future for some team who is ME’s size with 4.4 speed! Pryor means you could start ME…TP…Hump…Sims…Shep…and whichever training camp whiz breaks out.

    Add Brate and Brandon Myers and if we had Cook…#3 would have plenty of weapons.

    If we sign Pryor…draft Cook (if he’s not too costly..no major trade up) we have then lifted the WR curse and the lack of speed.

    We can then go BPA in the OL or DL or at S…wherever…I love when a team is not position dependent in the draft and can truly go BPA.

  2. Kevin Says:

    Not a huge fan of Patterson. For some reason I read Richard Matthews was a fa this year the other day but that seems to be wrong. Only guy that gets me a little excited on the FA list is Terrell Pryor. Josh Gordon is the best receiver ANYWHERE as far as skills but can the guy stay clean??????

  3. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    Theme of the summer”add explosive players”. See Bucs.com from yesterday. Common term coming from the mouth of coach K. All you fix the O line and defensive selection wit the first pick fooling yourselves. Fire Power coming off the board early and often. Bank on it. Now I could tell you about Big time RB Kirwan described yesterday but I’ll chill. I’ll see you brainiacs faces come draft night then we’ll all see what’s good.

  4. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    Oh Blakester I could load a link of roundtable discussion describing why Dalvin will make for a better pro than founette or Foreman but I won’t. All that cuttin and pasting ain’t really my style. You seem into searching a lot,sure you’ve might’ve already come by it yourself.

  5. Miko Says:

    no,no,no…FAIL….you keep Shepard, Humphries and even VJAX as the #3-#5 WRs, then add an early pick to be #2 someday and a SOLID veteran like Garcon to the mix…

  6. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    And please save all that John Ross and corey Davis is better than Mike Williams noise. His impact last night was huge. They doubled like you double a grown man WR all night long. And 87 you’re wrong Mike Williams is on par with college Julio Jones bro.

  7. LakeLandBuc Says:

    I don’t understand the logic behind the idea of drafting-signing speed guys who run deep routes.And we can draft 100 Dalvin Cook’s, but if the hole is not there, he’s no use to us. It’s not like Jameis will have time to wait in the pocket for them to get open. We need to fix the offense line first, then get the speedy backs and receivers. Our top priority should be to fix the O-Line and D-Line, and get tougher in the Trenches.

  8. pick6 Says:

    in the draft and FA…..
    at least 2 guys with a shot at being a day 1 #2 WR. Probably 1 “bridge veteran” and one high draft choice
    3 more guys who would give humphries a real challenge as a #3 guy

    add that group to our only 2 keepers at WR (Evans, Humphries), and let the best 5 or 6 emerge

  9. BringBucsBack Says:

    There is a long list of quality free agent WRs this off season. If Licht doesn’t sign at least one, his job truly should be in jeopardy.

    Licht has learned to be extremely cautious of the big name FA and will, I think, go “2nd tier”. I’m thinking Kenny Stills; but there are many to chose from.

  10. 941BUC Says:

    BUC IT!resign VJax to a 3 yr deal worth 6mil max,get Desean Jackson, Draft a true WR with speed in the draft in round 1 and 2 and resign Douggie to 3yr. 2mil max and resign Jaquizz and their you go.if you can pick up another WR in FA like Patterson for a bargain then do so for depth.our defense has depth and looks like Smith is here to stay so might as well dedicate the draft and FA to the offense.

  11. pick6 Says:

    i probably watch too little CFB to be weighing in on the draft, but what little i’ve seen of Clemson’s Mike Williams makes him seem like a very similar player to the Bucs’ Mike Williams and Mike Evans – jump ball superstar but not a likely candidate to solve our YAC shortages

  12. USFBUC Says:

    I’m not saying we couldn’t use more depth on the O line. There were also clearly issues with the O line this year specifically with Smith on the left side. But this is the same OLine that people were really impressed with just back in 2015 minus one key player. So we have to decide if the Oline is bad or just had a bad year. Coach K has said himself that he is happy with the Oline.

  13. USFBUC Says:

    Desean Jackson is getting old we need a young core of weapons on offense.

  14. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    Lakeland

    I hear you and accept your point. But many of us have proposed fixes which could still allow us to improve both lines.

    If we sign Pryor…draft Cook…we’ve plugged our offensive holes. But I hear you and I think after watching the Cowgirls this year everybody is stoked about building a dominant OL.

    So after you sign Pryor and draft Cook you can fill those OL needs with a 2nd…3rd…4th…. I would go BPA on either line…OL or DL in those rounds.

    Now if you wish to complete my fantasy offseason we sign Berry and now we have the secondary stabilized.

  15. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    USF who are we to believe the experts on jbf or the head coach. Seems like a simple answer if you ask me. But what he is clearly saying is not up to par that is the weaponry on this offense.

  16. Rob Says:

    Look what Cowboys did with a rookie qb. O line, I rest my case.

  17. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    And leave it up to me I’ll give up this years 2nd to move up in a minute for the most explosive players in the draft. Who’s more??? John Ross,corey davis man please.

  18. Rob Says:

    With a good o line, winston can make anyone look good.

  19. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Miko Says
    “no,no,no…FAIL….you keep Shepard, Humphries and even VJAX as the #3-#5”

    Good lucj getting VJ to resign knowing he’ll only be a number 3 WR.

  20. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    Rob the cowboy fanbase is aching for Romo. They’re calling him “Play it safe Dak” add in the soft schedule they played really not all that daunting what they accomplished this season. We’ll see they’re true metal this weekend when they face a Red Hot Bad man.

  21. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Rob Says
    “Look what Cowboys did with a rookie qb. O line, I rest my case.”

    Ding!

    It ALWAYS starts up front on both sides of the ball.

    Linemen may not be the pretty picks, but they are what makes a team great.

  22. Rob Says:

    Cowboys coach’s are smarter than their fans. That’s why Dak played. I’ll trust coach’s over fans anyday.

  23. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    USF just eluded to 21st our HC feels about our O line. Same people that helped him throw for 4000+ yards as a rookie. Get him some weaponry and watch him operate.

  24. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says
    “…add in the soft schedule they played…”

    How come the Bucs never get a soft schedule? Man, can you imagine if we’d had the schedule the Falcons had this year? We’d have been in the playoffs as divsion winners too!

  25. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    We’ll see if he can play it safe and get away wit it Now that its playoff time. And the likes of Russell,Matty and Rodgers are on the opposite side.

  26. Nole on Sat- Bucc on Sun Says:

    Bonzai the league doesn’t show love to teams that have been historically sub par. Give Fameis the weapons and watch those Ws stack up then the respect from the league will happen over time.

  27. The bucfan 88 Says:

    Omg why why is everyone on Pryor look this kid had one great season & ur ready to throw cash at this kid don’t get me wrong if we paid him not a lot but min I’ll will accept that but I do not want the Bucs to break the bank on this kid I need more before this kid gets the big bucks but Patterson fits two needs speed he got size & he can be used as a return man that’s freaking awesome

  28. Lord Corn Says:

    All you guys wanting the Cowboys o line- you ready to wait 3 years cuz that’s how long it’ll take at least to draft that type of line – probably more given that this is one of the weakest drafts in years for o line.

    We all want a lot of things but you can’t draft or sign studs if none are available

  29. Buc1987 Says:

    NOS…I still want Corey. lol

  30. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    USFBUC Says
    “…this is the same OLine that people were really impressed with just back in 2015 minus one key player.”

    On the surface, you are right. But here’s the thing:

    Our center is pretty good, but injury prone. He toughs it out, is an excellent ‘body on the line’ guy, but health is a big issue. And his health clearly affected his gameplay this year. So I can see why some people want to replace him. It’s a chronic problem with his injury, so it is never going away.

    Right tackle is the worst position along the line. None of the guys that played there are any good…even Dotson. Yes, he’s better than the others, but that doesn’t mean he is good by NFL standards. He’s also had injury issues.

    And on defense, we clearly need help on the line as well:

    The tackle next to McCoy needs to be a run stuffer. Currently, it just isn’t there.

    Noah Spence shows potential at his spot, but the other Defensive End spot is wide open. No one is properly filling that role and we don’t have a suitable option to put there.

    Robert Ayers should not even be starting. I love his attitude. I love his leadership and the example he sets. But if Noah Spence is the future at that spot, he needs to start. Period.

    Could Robert Ayers move to the other side? I don’t know. I sort of doubt it, but anything is worth a try. However, I don’t think the team would do it. That leaves trying Spence on the other side. I don’t think that’s wise because the ball gets run in that direction quite a bit (though practice makes improvement).

    Regardless, Robert Ayers will be 32 just in time for next season. He’s clearly not the long term solution, and we need to get one in here while we still have him as a bridge.

  31. Waterboy Says:

    Isn’t this supposed to be a weak class of O-linemen? The team might need to fix the o-line but you can’t fix it if there’s not much available to choose from.

  32. LakeLandBuc Says:

    We need big nasty Linemen on both side of the ball. Jameis Winston took 109 hits lat season, and he probably eluded another 109 hits. He was the top rated QB outside of the pocket. But he need to stay in the pocket and go through his reads, and that takes time. Once we fix this O-Line, his INT rate will improve as well as his accuracy. When you have a young franchise QB, you have to protect him. Your body can only take so much.

  33. Buc1987 Says:

    LakeLand…and from what I’m being told. There is no quality o-line in the draft.

  34. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Here’s what I expect from the lines.

    Offensive line: Protect the QB, keep penalties down, and open gaps for the run.

    Defensive line: At least one 10+ sack guy, and another near that…along with stopping the run and pressuring the QB. The other two guys better have 6+ sacks at least, or they should not be starting (unless they are rookies learning the ropes).

    Is that asking too much?

    William Gholston, one of our two starters, has only 3 sacks. Russel has 1 sack. The rest, outside of Spence and Ayers? Zero sacks.

    And Spence and Ayers play the same position.

    It’s not nearly good enough. And at DT, Clinton McDonald is absolutely horrible. I could live with 3.5 sacks if he was actually stopping the run, but he isn’t.

    It’s no wonder Gerald McCoy can’t break 10+ sacks when really, no one along the line is any good. In the last draft, we needed to address at least two spots along the line, and we only addressed one. That would have been acceptable if the other was addressed in Free Agency, but no…instead Jason Licht addressed the exact same spot.

  35. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Buc1987 ..that’s what all of the scouts are saying.

  36. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    I would be fine if every pick in this draft were spent on the two lines and the rest of the needs addressed in free agency.

    Imagine how good out lines would become if that was the case. I know it won’t happen, but a guy could dream.

  37. Buccaneer Bonzai Says:

    Buc1987 Says
    “There is no quality o-line in the draft.”

    The same people who say that did not see Marpet coming either. So it means nothing.

  38. Buc1987 Says:

    Me. I’m the guy that keeps banging the drum to fix the o-line, but if it’s not there, then go after a weapon for Winston.

    Cory Davis should drop pretty close to 19.

  39. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Buc1987. I wouldn’t reach for a player in the draft.

  40. gilhealy Says:

    My one fear is Tennessee will snag Corey before we get the chance. They need a WR as bad as we do. If they grab him with the O-line, RB’s, and TE they have, oh boy. I could QB for them and be successful. Maybe Jon Robinson and Licht can work out something beneficial to both parties. Koetter would love Corey Davis, for sure.

  41. LakeLandBuc Says:

    Corey Davis should be a top-15 pick.

  42. Lord Cornelius Says:

    “Buc1987 Says
    “There is no quality o-line in the draft.”

    The same people who say that did not see Marpet coming either. So it means nothing”

    Not true. There were a lot of people excited about Marpet as a prospect in the mid rounds. Most had him with a 3rd round grade I recall and some 2nd round

    It’s a consensus opinion that this draft lacks top quality O-lineman. It’s not just a scout or 2 – just look at every possible mock draft available for this year and then look at last year’s mocks.

    This year the most O-lineman I’ve seen mocked in the 1st round was like 3 and none in the top 10 – they’re all mid – late 1sts. Last year there were mocks that had 4-5 Offensive Tackles going in the top 15; and up to like 10 offensive lineman in general in the 1st round showing how deep the top talent pool was.

    Draft needs to be a combo of BPA and need; not just a blind need-based pick. If the best O-lineman available is basically the equivalent of an average starter; you don’t take him just to do it for need when there is a potential all-pro available at other positions like WR / S / CB / DT / etc.

    If we want to address a line in the draft it should be D-line. There are more elite options and depth.

  43. big serious Says:

    Damien MaMa the guard from USC has declared for the draft. i think he will be a 3rd or 4th rounder

  44. uckinator Says:

    My personal opinion is your best draft picks should be located closest to the ball. That’s where the action is. A quarterback with jumpy feet due to pass rush is no quarterback. An OF line that opens holes for running backs throws a monkey wrench at any DF coordinator’s game plan. As a defense, you can only cover so much ground before holes open up for the receivers.

  45. Guzzie Says:

    Really hope Malik Hooker is still available at 19

  46. Joeypoppems Says:

    Im starting to come around on the idea of drafting OJ Howard in the 1st round. At 6′ 6″ 250 lbs and with 4.6 speed he can be a matchup nightmare for defenses noe to mention he is a good run blocker on top of it. Lets face it, we do not have a true #1 TE on the roster. Brate had a great season but he can’t help out in the run game since he cant block. Stocker can block, but is not a good receiver. Having someone who can do both and be a big threat with the ball in his hands is too good to pass up. As for WR its safer to just sign who we need. Sign a #2 and a deep threat in free agency. I like the idea of getting Westbrook round 2, but its not a guarantee he will be there at 50 overall. So maybe we can go Howard round 1 and maybe D’onta Foreman 2nd round or BPA if he is gone

  47. NycBuc Says:

    Great point and player to hone in on Commish. Patterson had been a busy thus far but could represent a low risk, high return wr and returner for Bucs. Crabtree was a similar guy that resurrected his career when given a quality qb and true #1 wr. Important to note Crabtree was a prolific wr in college while Patterson draft status more associate with talent.

  48. Bucsfanman Says:

    It doesn’t matter what formula we use, we have to get weapons for Jameis. WR is the biggest NEED on this team followed closely by line help, BOTH lines. This is STILL a rebuilding team. We have depth and talent issues at almost every position. We are not going to solve ALL of our issues in one off-season.

  49. Dusthty Rhothdes Says:

    OL OL OL the bucs need to build a wall to protect the franchise, go get a 2nd round WR and then get mixon or mack in 3rd or 4th…get some FA backend guys and get ready for the playoffs….cook might end up being something special but 1st round with RBs and to give up the future is not a great move, esp since bucs are neither 1 RB nor 1 K away from the playoffs

  50. Stpetebucsfan Says:

    Omg why why is everyone on Pryor look this kid had one great season

    It was his ONLY season on the crappiest team in the NFL.

    Positives Size and speed…6-3 225 4.4 who else brings that combo…there are a few but very few.

    Incredible athleticism combined with a burning competitive fire(sometimes his undoing like OBJ) He played the toughest position on any team in the biggest game of the season and won a National Championship. He’s a former QB.

    He’s just scratching the surface…his upside is incredible on a good team with a good QB and some coaches like Monken to teach him route running. He’s only played WR a year.

    Negatives Can Koetter/Monken get him to mesh with what is now great locker room chemistry. Is that chemistry strong enough to keep TP in line? That’s my major question. Otherwise this should be a slam dunk! We give up nothing but money and save our draft picks for the OL/DL that many guys seem focused upon….including me btw.

  51. ak427er Says:

    Patterson is crap. All that speed and he can’t run a route and get open to save his life (or job). we have $90 million under the salary cap. there is no need to go dumpster dive for some guy that couldn’t stick with the team that drafted him. He’s a Low effort guy who appears to lack the desire it takes to turn natural born abilities into actual NFL skills. I’d much rather see us sign Terrel Pryor. That’s a 4.4 guy who put in the work to change positions and had a very productive 1st season at WR with 90 catches 1000+ yards 4 TDs for a Cleveland team with worthless quarterbacks and very few weapons around him. Yeah let’s give Jameis something like that on the other side of Mike Evans to work with and watch safeties pee down their leg

  52. ak427er Says:

    Jameis will get him in line and keep his head right because he’s a true leader and that’s what they do

  53. webster Says:

    I am sorry but when is an olineman who has a mid 1st round grade not a good pick for a team that could use an oline upgrade? Cam robinson would look good in pewter and red. Fyi…..every olineman on dallas was not a top 5 or 10 pick. Mid to late first round olineman are just as useful.

  54. Mike Evans GOAT Says:

    @ dusty
    It just doesn’t seem to resonate with u simple minded people. THERE IS NO GOOD 1ST ROUND LINEMAN IN THIS DRAFT!!!!!!!
    How hard is that to understand? The best 1st round lineman has been compared to DONAVAN SMITH. Our current LT that all of you love to bash.

  55. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Nos bos is such a nole homer. I can wait until the draft is over just ao we can finally stop reading about cook in every jbf article.

  56. Trubucfan22 Says:

    Id much rather see CP running WR screens than hump. Hump has no flash. He gets you anything from 2-15 yards, which is cool and all, but CP has the speed to take those to the house. Hump can’t run routes either, yet he was productive last season. CP is an upgrade over hump in my eyes. Not a single CB has to worry about hump going deep on them. CP’s speed is a threat on any play.