Jameis Winston’s Speed Impresses
May 10th, 2015
Yes, Mike Glennon runs a faster 40-yard dash than Jameis Winston. When it comes to straight-ahead sprinting, those two are like a couple of retired giraffes.
That was proven at the NFL Scouting Combine.
But Jameis is quite fast — in the classroom. Young Jameis is known as a football genius, in addition to being a special academic.
Bucs general manager Jason Licht shared with USA Today that Jameis is way ahead of his peers at rookie/tryout minicamp. He also, apparently, surprised coaches.
“I told my wife, Blair, ‘I gave him an A,”’ Licht said. “I thought it was a great day. He knew the offense already. He wasn’t overwhelmed.
“He was even a little ahead of the game. He was already trying to change protections. The coaches were like, ‘Wait up. Hold on.’
“You’re right. But the other guys aren’t there yet.”
So what does this really mean? Not much, Jameis is supposed to be the big dog in the pack in all ways. However, Joe finds it significant that Jameis was demanding a lot of his peers, changing plays and leading under center.
Joe believes that will translate to Jameis’ first practice with Bucs veterans.
The bar will be raised quickly.
May 10th, 2015 at 5:41 pm
Remember this is the same gm who was bragging about his free agent signings last year
May 10th, 2015 at 5:42 pm
unfortunate that the coaches will also tell the veterans of the bucs O-line, “Jameis You’re right. But the other guys aren’t there yet.”
Its going to be a long way to go!!!
May 10th, 2015 at 5:50 pm
great usa today article. thanks for the link.
this was interesting, from it:
Several veterans texted the second-year GM and coach Lovie Smith right before the draft to urge them to select Winston over Mariota, the former Oregon quarterback of Kelly’s fast-break offensive dreams.
“Either in a text or a phone call, it wasn’t so much them telling us what to do,” Licht said. “It was, ‘I don’t know what you guys are doing. But if you take Jameis No. 1, we’re all for it.”’
Smith said he got several texts as well from the Bucs core players.
“We encourage guys to speak their minds,” Smith said. “For our guys to say, ‘We want this. And yeah, we’re excited about it, our core players were all on board with what we were going to do.’
“And they’re excited about him being their teammate.”
May 10th, 2015 at 5:51 pm
also loved the end of the article:
And Winston vowed he’ll be everything off the field they expect after extensively vetting his character issues.
“Jameis told me after we picked him, ‘I got you,”’ Licht said.
May 10th, 2015 at 5:52 pm
@The Bucs Realist
Hilarious comment, Thats good stuff tho. Im still cautiously optimistic
May 10th, 2015 at 6:39 pm
Joe – if you keep talking about Winston being as slow as Glennon – no one is going to believe their eyes when they see him take off and run for first downs and TDs.
Jameis may not have a good 40 time – but he is actually a very effective runner when an opportunity presents itself. I can guarantee you he won’t be running out of bounds a yard shy of the 1st down marker without being forced out.
May 10th, 2015 at 7:02 pm
One look at the title and I lost it, lol.
May 10th, 2015 at 7:06 pm
Pickgrin Says
“Jameis may not have a good 40 time – but he is actually a very effective runner when an opportunity presents itself.”
Great demonstration of a pipe dream. 😉
May 10th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
I’m willing to give Winston credit for all the things he does…but somehow, I don’t believe being “fast” on his feet will ever be among them.
And to say he is…well…even Lovie said the one thing he can’t do is run the forty.
I don’t think he can run the 15 either. Heck, in the 18 games I watched, he wasn’t very good at moving around in the pocket when playing against good defenses…which are what he’ll face all the time in the NFL.
May 10th, 2015 at 7:10 pm
However, I will say this…he can get better in the pocket.
And Peyton Manning isn’t fast either.
May 10th, 2015 at 7:19 pm
@bonzai,
He’s not fast, but he sure shook the jock strap off a few players in college. You don’t have to be fast to be effective. He will never be confused with Vick, but he may surprise you.
May 10th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
With that FUKN O-Line they better let him learn how to change protections now rather than later!
May 10th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
@Hawaiian
I saw a couple of his scrambles in college, It was not pretty. It looked like a wounded giraffe. I am hoping that was when he had the bum ankle though!!!
May 10th, 2015 at 7:49 pm
Winston’s college career rushing stats- 284 yards rushing, and 7 rushing TDs.
So… Why exactly does it matter that his 40 wasn’t as fast as Glennon’s? you think Glennon put up those kind of numbers rushing while he was in college LMAO!!!
Just goes to show you, you don’t have to be as fast as Mariota to be an effective runner. The kid can. do. it. all.
May 10th, 2015 at 7:58 pm
Obviously Buccaneerbonzai has never played sports because he is never heard the terms more athletic than fast or game speed. You can not tell me the highlight runs Winston does have in college didn’t display athleticism. Glennon may run a tick faster but he is not athletic at all. Jameis is an athlete and the 4.9 40 time he ran looks totally different on the football field when he is playing. Maybe you should look up Jerry Rice and how he ran a 4.6 40. Did you ever see him get caught from the back once he was in the open field? How many times did he get open? Was that due to his lack of 40 time speed or was it due to the fact he was an athlete and a “football player” which as a result played much faster than his 40 time? A 40 time does not tell the whole story on a player and I am sorry you have failed to realize this after all these years. You still have much to learn about sports young grasshopper.
May 10th, 2015 at 8:02 pm
I just hope Bonzai doesn’t get too upset with me when I hope GMC breaks Mariota’s leg in week 1….
May 10th, 2015 at 8:03 pm
His rushing/TD in college would have been much higher without the injured ankle last year. His freshman year he rushed for 219 of those 284 yards. You can tell by some of these comments that lots of Bucs fans have watched very little FSU football over the past few years.
May 10th, 2015 at 8:20 pm
Let’s hope we have a much better OL this year because if we don’t the lack of escapability makes a HUGE difference; just ask the Glennon Mob. I remember when all the Buc Fans were excited to see their first pick in the draft and Heisman Trophy Winner, Vinny Testaverde, but we had a bad OL like last year any Vinny was no escape artist either, and he got beat to a pulp his first year. Why do you think I felt our best choice was Mariota? The other thing you better have with an average to poor OL is a big back and we have shrimps.
May 10th, 2015 at 8:54 pm
JBF has turned to comedy to try to sell us Infamous now?
May 10th, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Gator…you have no friends. Get real.
@Tiny Tim
Your argument is that Winston is more elusive than Glennon????
If Glennon is the measuring stick for Winston, then we are truly screwed.
And you clearly cannot read, because I said I watched 18 of his games, and he did nothing like what you claim.
But it doesn’t really matter how much you say otherwise…we’ll all know the truth starting in September. And as is the norm for you and all your friends, by November you will be screaming for Winston’s head.
May 10th, 2015 at 9:01 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
May 10th, 2015 at 8:54 pm
“And as is the norm for you and all your friends, by November you will be screaming for Winston’s head.”
Which is something that you’re doing everyday right now, under your breath. Just admit that you want him to fail. Just join that club Bonzai. Your posts since the draft say so. So why not just come out and say it? You want Winston to fail. Stop beating around the bush every day.
May 10th, 2015 at 9:38 pm
Winston can run with the ball just look at that long TD run he had at FSU. Glennon has his best runs when ducking out of bounds a yard shy of the line of scrimmage instead of getting rid of the ball. I’m convinced he does this to save his completion percetage. Glennon is very good a putting up meaningless stats to make him look like a half way decent player.
May 10th, 2015 at 9:48 pm
@ Gator
I read your article…….agree with most…..one point….I always find it interesting that teams get high grades when they end up with extra picks because of traded players.
For example, you gave NO an A…..but if you remove the 1st round pick they recieved from Seattle….then that would change their draft considerably. After all….they lost Jimmy Graham….that has to be factored in.
May 10th, 2015 at 10:05 pm
@Owlycat
Mariota was sacked 23 percent of the time he was pressured, the sixth-highest rate among quarterbacks in the draft class. Florida State’s Jameis Winston was sacked only 11.5 percent of his pressured dropbacks, second-best in the class.
May 10th, 2015 at 10:13 pm
Bonzai I only typed what I said because of this below said by you back in early March. Surely someone that doesn’t feel comfortable with Winston and kids would be rooting for him to fail. If you feel that strongly that he’s such a bad person, you’d want him gone as soon as possible. I know I would if I made statements like that. It doesn’t even matter though, because like I said it shows in your posts since the draft.
How many games will you be attending with the kids this season Bonzai?
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
March 9th, 2015 at 9:19 am
Last year I canceled my season tickets…4 of them. I also attended no games, and I normally take several boys clubs to the games each season, paying for upwards of 10-18 kids each time, plus chaperones. This past year, I took them to lightning games and baseball games instead.
They liked the lightning games more than baseball.
If Lovie takes Winston, it’s going to take a lot to earn those ticket sales back, and they are already fighting an uphill battle.
Over the summer, I’m taking those kids to New York City and Niagara Falls, and paying for them all.
If the Bucs take Mariota, not only will I take the boys and girls to some games, but I will consider buying them each Bucs gear and getting the season tickets back.
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
March 9th, 2015 at 9:20 am
“I just don’t feel comfortable encouraging the kids to look up to Winston.”
May 10th, 2015 at 10:41 pm
winston is a football player and has “football speed”… watch him hustle down the field to make this block
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jpEkkTLTmM
May 10th, 2015 at 10:47 pm
@87 bravo
May 10th, 2015 at 11:20 pm
BuccaneerBonzai Says:
May 10th, 2015 at 8:54 pm
Gator…you have no friends. Get real.
@Tiny Tim
Your argument is that Winston is more elusive than Glennon????
If Glennon is the measuring stick for Winston, then we are truly screwed.
And you clearly cannot read, because I said I watched 18 of his games, and he did nothing like what you claim.
But it doesn’t really matter how much you say otherwise…we’ll all know the truth starting in September. And as is the norm for you and all your friends, by November you will be screaming for Winston’s head.
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Wow your comprehension skills are worst than your sports knowledge. Not once did I say that Glennon was the measuring stick. What I said is Glennon is slow and and is not athletic at all. Winston on the other hand is slow, but is athletic and has something called game speed that does not show up in the 40 time ala Jerry Rice. And if you watched 18 games of Winston as you claimed (which is obviously a lie and a half), can you please tell me how you missed this athletic run that does not look anything like a 4.9 40? It sure seems to me he plays just like I claimed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds69Ds4cWB8
He is a football player with just enough game speed to be very successful if and when he has to scramble. I guess I have to teach an uneducated sports fan such as yourself who did not know you can’t judge a player simply on a 40 time. You have so much to learn its not even funny.
May 10th, 2015 at 11:21 pm
i remember that post. i thought it was interesting and telling to let everyone know how “he pays for everything”. very gracious.
May 10th, 2015 at 11:33 pm
“We encourage guys to speak their minds,” Smith said. “For our guys to say, ‘We want this. And yeah, we’re excited about it, our core players were all on board with what we were going to do”
…………
Indoor practice facility.
May 10th, 2015 at 11:36 pm
I like how so many people seem shocked that many are mentioning about how intelligent Winston is. The kid actually did well academically up in Tallahassee and because of all the negative publicity spouted about the kid everyone has the impression that the kid has the IQ of a salad bar and a single digit Wunderlick ala Vince Young but nothing can be further from the truth. The kid obviously made some huge mistakes while @ FSU but so have numerous other young men who have gone to major colleges including a lot of our judges, politicians and so called pillars of our communities; their laundry was just not hung out to dry like this kids. I really hope he succeeds simply to spite the haters and all the trolls I see in the comment sections of the national NFL websites as well as our local pages….
May 10th, 2015 at 11:40 pm
What about Winston doesn’t impress the Joe’s? I am all in on the great new hope too but put away the Jergens and Kleenex fellas!
May 11th, 2015 at 12:21 am
lurker..lol I don’t forget a damn thing that’s said about my team. I understand that it’s going to take some fans a little more time to accept Jameis. It’s the ones that pretend that they are rooting for his success, because that means Buccaneer success, that bother me. I don’t know why they bother me they just do.
You can’t pretend to like the guy or that you’re starting to warm up to him if you’re still knocking him down every once in awhile. Bonzai is an example of this since the draft. He did it yesterday and on several post before that one. One post he likes what he’s hearing about Winston then the next post he’s knocking him.
Like I said I understand it might take some time for some fans to get used to him being our QB seeing how they despised his guts less than a month ago, but just don’t post about him then if you’re going to be so wishy washy. Bonzai came to the conclusion that Winston was the pick a few weeks before the draft. I guess it takes some people a little longer getting used to the fact that it’s reality now.
I expect Bonzai to continue this charade throughout the offseason. I hope it won’t continue, but I’m not expecting it. Winston has to win him over. On one post he will tell you how impressed he was with what Jameis said and then the next he’ll tell us he needs to stop talking like that. That’s my point.
Deep down Bonzai WANTS Winston to fail. He’s already stated he’s one of those that can’t wait to tell you “I told ya so”. Said he would be there to remind us during the season. Yes I don’t forget a damn thing that said on this site. I’m like the janitor in The Breakfast Club “I’m the ears and eyes of this institution.” Hell I live on JBF.
@DallasBuc..I really have not seen anything negative written about Winston’s first rookie camp, so I don’t think the Joe’s are doing us a disservice. I’m sure he stood out amongst “rookies”.
May 11th, 2015 at 12:27 am
Bonzai..I know you’ve got a rebuttal to all this. So I hope you get a chance to read it. I don’t like attacking people without them firing back. I just want to know what gives with you….
May 11th, 2015 at 12:52 am
Bonzai
IF you truly watched 18 games then you must have missed Winstons very first game vs Pitt. FSU 41 Pitt 13
25/27 356 4TDs 0Ints.
Competition, you say? Here’s draftbreakdown coverage for Aaron Donald Vs Florida State 2013. And since you know everything I don’t have to tell you that Donald is a Top 100 NFL player according to nfln, he had 9 sacks last year and went to the probowl as a DT.
No movement in the pocket you must be drunk.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/aaron-donald-vs-florida-state-2013/
May 11th, 2015 at 12:56 am
Bonzai says: ” I don’t believe being “fast” on his feet will ever be among them.”
Watch the FSU vs PITT video. It’s MUST SEE TV
May 11th, 2015 at 1:01 am
99…Bonzai wants Jameis to fail. The sooner you realize that it will all make more sense to you. He loves the Bucs, but wants Winston to fail. I know it’s effed up, but that’s the way I’ve been reading him since the draft. He’s one of “those” fans. Right up there with Fungi Nails.
May 11th, 2015 at 1:03 am
87- relax… Mission accomplished. You of all people should be taking a break. If it was not clear before 4/30/2015 it is now. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are instantly relevant. Notice how that was not the case after McCown was exhaulted in 2014 May free agency, despite the do-no-wrong-Lovie talking head circuit that bended wind and small minds otherwise.
Eventually the Joe’s will get used to talent at the QB position and relevancy overall to the magical point where the Jergens and Kleenex can get out of plain view. Goes for us ham and eggers too. I have waited too damn long for pure talent at the position.
Go Bucs
May 11th, 2015 at 1:05 am
I also add that I never believed he watched extensive game film since the time he said it. He was pointing out flaws that he picked up on while watching the film that are just no so. He made a case as to why the Bucs should not draft him and he outlined all his flaws. It was a long drawn out detailed post. Most of it made no sense and I called him on it at the time. He never answered me back about it. I called BS at the time and got no reply.
You make the call.
May 11th, 2015 at 1:13 am
lol yeah Dallas I know. I’m about to go to bed. It’s been a long 4 months perhaps I still have some fight in me left over. Same goes for some of these anti-Winston posters. 95% of them are gone from JBF now. Some of them remain. Wishy washy just drives me crazy. Jump in the pool already the waters warm.
May 11th, 2015 at 1:23 am
That video is fire!
May 11th, 2015 at 3:38 am
buc1987, ever get the jersey from the pill pusher?
May 11th, 2015 at 7:48 am
Lol, ’87 I am quite sure Bonzai won’t be back on this thread! You called him out using his own post so there is nothing he can say to defend himself.
Tiny Tim I agree with you completely. There is no way he watched that many FSU games and thinks JW isn’t elusive when he needs to be. Based on what I have seen of Winston on the field I would have guessed he would run something like a 4.6 forty. He has great pocket awareness and can run when effectively when he needs to.
May 11th, 2015 at 9:48 am
I get the feeling that most Winston naysayers ONLY watched the Rose Bowl vs Oregon. If that’s your lens, sure, Winston may not look great. Lost in the final score and the one meme-worthy fumble play was the fact that Winston actually had a pretty good game, stats-wise. It was also one of his worst games at QB.
As far as Winston not being mobile… ok, sure. He’s no speedster, but as many have mentioned, he is quite elusive and has the quicks when needed. I doubt the Bucs are going to call a ton of draws anyway.
May 11th, 2015 at 9:49 am
Winston’s athleticism is like the old baller at the YMCA, awkward but gets you with every slow calculated move… spoken from first hand experience unfortunately :-/
May 11th, 2015 at 11:05 am
@bucnut….we didn’t do awful in last years draft. We did draft Mike Evans who was a complete stud in his first year and I bet Sefarian-Jenkins is going to have a great year.
May 11th, 2015 at 11:06 am
Tiny Tim Says:
May 10th, 2015 at 7:58 pm
Obviously Buccaneerbonzai has never played sports because he is never heard the terms more athletic than fast or game speed. You can not tell me the highlight runs Winston does have in college didn’t display athleticism. Glennon may run a tick faster but he is not athletic at all. Jameis is an athlete and the 4.9 40 time he ran looks totally different on the football field when he is playing. Maybe you should look up Jerry Rice and how he ran a 4.6 40. Did you ever see him get caught from the back once he was in the open field? How many times did he get open? Was that due to his lack of 40 time speed or was it due to the fact he was an athlete and a “football player” which as a result played much faster than his 40 time? A 40 time does not tell the whole story on a player and I am sorry you have failed to realize this after all these years. You still have much to learn about sports young grasshopper.
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I agree with you, but the story about Jerry Rice’s 4.6 are completely untrue. Gil Brandt wrote an article a few years back stating it as well. Jerry was a low 4.4 guy when Gil timed him personally.
If you want to give comparison, give Cris Carter running a 4.70. Anquan Boldin running a 4.68, Tony Gonzales running a 4.81, or as far as QBs are concerned, the guy that was considered the MOST mobile in the NFL for a good percent of the time he was in the NFL, Jake Plummer, ran a 4.87. 40 times, particularly for QBs, can be extremely misleading. Bruce Gradkowski ran a 4.59, Blaine Gabbert had an excellent time as did many other QBs that couldn’t run.
Winston and his slow 40 time means nothing. He is athletic enough. If Jake Plummer could be called the most mobile QB in the NFL after posting a 4.87, Winston can at least be considered mobile at 4.97. Josh Freeman was extremely mobile and he too posted a 40 time of over 4.9.
May 11th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
Brandon Says:
May 11th, 2015 at 11:06 am
I agree with you, but the story about Jerry Rice’s 4.6 are completely untrue. Gil Brandt wrote an article a few years back stating it as well. Jerry was a low 4.4 guy when Gil timed him personally.
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Wow. Google is your friend everybody. Gil brandt is one guy. 49ers.com has a story talking how Rice’s 40 time was 4.59. Bill Walsh has an article where he talks about only the 49ers, Jets and Cowboys was interested in Rice due to his 4.6. Cbssports talks on Rice’s combine numbers being in the mid 4.6. NFLdraft scouts has rice at 4.68 with a high of 4.79. Depending on the article you read (ESPN etc ) you will find that rice was clocked between 4.6- 4.7. Rice is who my comparison is about because his game speed did not reflect a mid 4.6 guy. He could beat you deep as if he was Moss. Boldin and Gonzalez get open, but their game speed is reflective of their 40 time. Winston on the other hand 4.9 40 looks a lot different on the field ala Rice. Thanks for your help, but it is not needed on this one.