“You Have To Take A Quarterback”

March 23rd, 2015
Former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik again issued his plea for the Bucs to select a quarterback No. 1 overall next month.

Former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik again issued his plea for the Bucs to select a quarterback No. 1 overall next month.

Joe just doesn’t get the trade down crowd. Not this year.

In a typical year, if one can find a suitor to dance with and get a decent return, go ahead and trade down to stock up on picks.

But not this year. Not when the Bucs need a quarterback more than every other team. Not this year. If the Bucs aren’t going to pick a quarterback this year with the first overall pick, then when? In the next couple of years, the only decent quarterback (non-spread quarterbacks) looks to be Christian Hackenberg, and that guy really regressed last season.

A Bucs fan who clearly must be in the Woody Hayes fan club is not won over by either Jameis Winston or Marcus Mariota and believes the Bucs should pretend a quarterback is a notch above a punter in terms of importance. This Bucs fan wants to trade back and made the point recently on “Late Hits,” co-hosted by Alex Marvez and former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik, heard exclusively on SiriusXM NFL Radio.

George in Florida: I am kind of worried about the draft. Everyone is talking going first round with Jameis Winston or the other quarterback. I think we need to focus on offensive line. We had a really good offensive line when Mark was there. Now, I don’t think we have a strong one. I just want to hear your opinions.

Mark Dominik: You know, George, what I will tell you is, with the No. 1 pick — now look, you have to take a quarterback because you have to. They kept Glennon because I think they think there are still good things from Glennon to see and to work with and if they want the young quarterback to sit and watch, for four- to eight-games, then they can do that with Mike Glennon. If they want the young quarterback to play right away, then they have a quarterback — although he is young in National Football League terms — is very mature for his age and can actually help and be supportive so I understand see why they kept Glennon instead of McCown who they signed last year.

That being said, the problem is by trading that pick, you just can’t. You have to pick a quarterback. There just isn’t a Joe Thomas in this draft, you know? No Walter Jones or Jonathan Ogden. There just isn’t a guy [at offensive line] in the top five or the top ten, even. So I think what you have to do or what they are preparing to do is you are Jason Licht or Lovie Smith is you have to say, with that second pick which is a good pick, do you find a way to maybe move back up and solidify that offensive line? That is one thing that I think they are doing in order to keep that freshman or rookie quarterback upright in his first season.

Again, if the Bucs don’t draft a quarterback on the night of April 30, then when? No decent quarterbacks are on the horizon.

If the Bucs don’t draft a quarterback next month, they will be guilty of criminal negligence. You can always get offensive linemen, but you cannot always get a quarterback.

78 Responses to ““You Have To Take A Quarterback””

  1. Tampabaybucfan Says:

    I agree that there are no other good options than to pick a QB…..if we keep Glennon, he will still be tradeable next year with one year left on his rookie contract.
    This draft is weak with QBs and so will next year’s….
    I am confident we will pick one of the two.

    I saw a poll at buc.com that indicated only 3 percent want to trade the pick….so, Joe you don’t need to continue to address the “Woody Hayes” crowd…because it barely exists….

  2. Eric Says:

    Cleveland’s two number ones. their number two, and next years number one plus Johnny Football?

  3. road warrior Says:

    Just because the bucs need QB doesn’t mean that Jameis or Marcus are good enough to go # 1 over all.

  4. Celly Says:

    road warrior Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 9:50 am

    Just because the bucs need QB doesn’t mean that Jameis or Marcus are good enough to go # 1 over all.

    Then who is?

  5. Johnny Dejay Says:

    While it’s true that there aren’t any heralded QB’s going into the 2015 College Football season, these guys come out of nowhere all the time.

    Two years ago, nobody outside of FSU had even heard of Jameis Winston, and if he were eligible for the 2014 NFL Draft last year, he would have likely been a top-5 pick.

    Who knows what red-shirt sophomores or juniors are going to breakout and takeover the college game this season? That’s part of the magic of college football.

    With that said, the Bucs need to pick a QB this year and develop him slowly for the future. This dreadful O-Line would likely shell-shock any rookie QB. It’s going to take a couple of off-seasons to rebuild the O-Line properly, which will also allow Dirk Koetter to work his magic on Winston or Mariota.

  6. Buc1987 Says:

    Celly..you won’t get a reply.

  7. lions Says:

    Mariota or Leonard Williams for No. 1.

  8. Strider #FamousJameis Says:

    Trade down talk is losers who can’t make any decisions in life and are just to much of a puss to take the risk. Go big or go home we want to win.

  9. JGW 1981 Says:

    Connor Cook is another QB to keep your eye on

  10. tmaxcon Says:

    Winston is the only and obvious choice.

  11. Leonard Scarnesi Says:

    ” Just because the bucs need QB doesn’t mean that Jameis or Marcus are good enough to go # 1 over all. ”

    “Then who is?”

    Answer: Maybe no one this year. I’m not one of those sit-at-home talent evaluators who have no credentials (like Joe). If there isn’t a QB worth the pick then trading down is probably a good idea. (No Joe, I’ve never been in the Woody Hayes Fan Club. I don’t even know what Joe means by that. But if I did know, I’m sure hilarity would ensue!)

  12. bucs4lyfe Says:

    atleast he knows something about being a GM…..yes we need a quarterback but when it comes to who to pick at #1 if you wanna be successful just choose the anyone other than who Dominick wants to pick and that player will be a superstar

  13. Nick Says:

    The “trade down” philosophy makes sense when a QB is overvalued due to being a QB (see Carr and Bortles from last year). That doesn’t really apply to Winston. Most evaluators have him in the top 5 of ALL players, some even have him number 1.

  14. tmaxcon Says:

    bucs4lyfe

    dom said he prefers mariota. i was convinced on Winston from the beginning but a dom endorsement could have changed my mind.

  15. Eric Says:

    If nobody is good enough to be the number one pick then who do you trade down with?

  16. BuccaneerBonzai Says:

    Joe, your system has been running slow when posting comments this week. I think maybe you are experiencing a sudden increase in visits…might want to look into it and consider an upgrade in server speed.

    Just a suggestion.

  17. Buc1987 Says:

    “Answer: Maybe no one this year. I’m not one of those sit-at-home talent evaluators who have no credentials (like Joe).”

    Neither am I. I have the internet and 50 or more analysts out there backing me up on this pick all saying the same thing.

  18. Luther Says:

    We haven’t had a pick this high in quite some time. If any QB comes out of college that i worth anything, the chances of us being in the position to pick him is almost nil. On top of that, if Lovie puts us in the position to pick that high in the draft, it won’t be his choice to make anymore.

    Bottom line: If you think you need a QB and you are in position to take one, you take him. If Loie were to pick any other position, I would be first in line to fire him on the spot.

  19. Bucs55 Says:

    Good teams draft by there board who they have number 1 overall on there board not by need . From what ive seen all the scouts say the best player in the draft is williams

  20. Eric Says:

    No, we have to wait for the sure fire Andrew Luck QB of the future, and gamble we will have the number one pick which will be required to get him.

  21. Rrsrq Says:

    QB (Jameis)) or bust. If theBucs don’t get a QB, the stadium will be empty. They would have to be 10-0 before a home crowd sell out, I.e., they will sell out the Cowboys game. If they do get off to a great start without drafting a QB, fans will assume it is all smoke and mirrors. Bit that is just a pipe dream going 10-0, and if they did they would probably miss the playoffs at 10-6, it’s a BUCS life

  22. road warrior Says:

    First of all it doesn’t matter who the QB is. Without a offensive line nether one of these guys is coming in here to do anything especially as a rookie. Do we need a QB? Hell yeah. So when we draft one of these guys and he sucks because he’s getting his a$$ handed to him. you will all claim he sucks. I’m not a draft expert like Celly or buc1987. but if the Bucs don’t do something to help who ever the QB there in big trouble. Take the blinders off fellas. I’m not saying that nether one isn’t good enough. But what makes you so sure they are.

  23. Twizzylax Says:

    Bucs55, there is always a need somewhere that will line up with one of the top two or three players. At #1 overall, you have to find that match, not just take the BPA. I agree that Williams is an absolute stud, but he is the one player of the top 5 who just don’t match the need for the Bucs. Williams projects as a 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE, and the Bucs already have a pretty stellar DT rotation with GMC, McDonald, Melton, and Spence. Winston, Fowler, Beasley, and Gregory all fill immediate needs, and can be argued as BPA depending on what you are looking for. Winston should be the pick, but if he is not for some reason, Williams should be passed on for one of the DEs who can really fill an area of need as well.

  24. Tomcin Says:

    Jameis Winston = Jamarcus Russell LOSER!

  25. Nick Says:

    Eric,

    In 32 years, there have been 3 “sure-fire” QBs: Elway, Manning and Luck. That’s one a decade. So here’s our options:

    Option 1: Wait a decade. Then we only have a 1 in 32 chance of having the number 1 pick that year.

    Option 2: take the best QB this year and hope he’s in the 50% (based on QBs taken #1) that actually has a solid career.

    So the “Gamble” as you state it: option 1 is way less than 1% (actually about 0.3%). option 2 50% (based on QBs taken number 1 that have been to multiple pro bowls). I’d rather flip a coin than play the lottery.

  26. Celly Says:

    Buc1987 Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 9:54 am

    Celly..you won’t get a reply.

    I rarely do, but its fun to ask anyway.

    Leonard Scarnesi Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 10:10 am

    ” Just because the bucs need QB doesn’t mean that Jameis or Marcus are good enough to go # 1 over all. ”

    “Then who is?”

    Answer: Maybe no one this year. I’m not one of those sit-at-home talent evaluators who have no credentials (like Joe). If there isn’t a QB worth the pick then trading down is probably a good idea. (No Joe, I’ve never been in the Woody Hayes Fan Club. I don’t even know what Joe means by that. But if I did know, I’m sure hilarity would ensue!)

    Ok. You might be correct…

    But you can’t go into the draft with the assumption that you can trade down. You can’t just say, “I don’t think anyone is worth the first pick so I’ll take whatever trade offer comes my way”. That is not putting value in the draft. Besides, everyone can want to trade down, but if you can’t find someone to trade up, then you’re wasting your time.

    So, with that being said, if you can’t find a trade partner and you HAVE to make a pick, who do you select?

    Bucs55 Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 10:26 am

    Good teams draft by there board who they have number 1 overall on there board not by need . From what ive seen all the scouts say the best player in the draft is williams

    So, if you have both Williams and [insert your favorite draft eligible QB here] both rated the same, who do you take?

    The QB who touches the ball ever single time on offense or the guy who (Walter Football says) might not be an ideal fit for a 4-3 scheme?

  27. DallasBuc Says:

    Just think, with Winston behind center for the Bucs on Sundays you would actually believe every gameday morning that you have a great chance to win that game regardless of who else is on the team or who they are playing. Winston brings automatic hope on gameday that we have not had in quite some time! No one let Lovie Smith near the war room on April 30th. This decision is too important to allow that lovable incompetent near this pick.

  28. Barry Says:

    If Bucs don’t draft #Creep then he falls in the draft.
    If Bucs dont’ draft Mariota then he goes 2nd pick. Many teams are ready to pounce on him.

    #TheBlindLeadingtheBlind

    #DP #HGH #PEDs #BrainDeadRetard

  29. bucs4lyfe Says:

    it’s amazing how everyone views mark Dominick now versus how you view Jason licht and lovie smith who have yet to be fired by tampa and deemed failures as he was…Dominick is a failure and somehow now a fake espn expert i’d never agree with him just because of his track record…..GMC was a gimmie and there was no other pick

  30. Celly Says:

    Eric Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 10:26 am

    No, we have to wait for the sure fire Andrew Luck QB of the future, and gamble we will have the number one pick which will be required to get him.

    Come on Eric, don’t you know that guy is always coming out next year?

    “Why take a QB this year when you can just wait till next year”

    road warrior Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 10:31 am

    First of all it doesn’t matter who the QB is. Without a offensive line nether one of these guys is coming in here to do anything especially as a rookie. Do we need a QB? Hell yeah. So when we draft one of these guys and he sucks because he’s getting his a$$ handed to him. you will all claim he sucks. I’m not a draft expert like Celly or buc1987. but if the Bucs don’t do something to help who ever the QB there in big trouble. Take the blinders off fellas. I’m not saying that nether one isn’t good enough. But what makes you so sure they are.

    Not sure why you felt the need to throw a jab in there, but never once did I claim to be a draft expert.

    But at some point, common sense must prevail. The most important position on the field is QB and when you have the #1 pick and you have NO QB on your team (Glennon is not that guy…he’s had his chance, twice, and failed), you take a QB at #1. Even if you have that QB rated as the 2nd best player in the draft, you take him.

    Point. Blank. Period.

    Tomcin Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 10:38 am

    Jameis Winston = Jamarcus Russell LOSER!

    And what makes you believe that besides their skin color?

    Nick Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 10:39 am

    So the “Gamble” as you state it: option 1 is way less than 1% (actually about 0.3%). option 2 50% (based on QBs taken number 1 that have been to multiple pro bowls). I’d rather flip a coin than play the lottery.

    Your math teacher would be so proud. [playful sarcasm intended, lol]

    @Buc1987
    I don’t know why I keep doing this to myself. I keep telling myself everyday that I’m not goign to come on here and argue with the uninformed, but I guess when you have a job that requires you to sit at a computer all day, I just can’t help myself.

    The draft can’t come quick enough. Maybe after that, we’ll get to listen to people bitch and complain that the Bucs did the wrong thing instead of having them spew missinformation as fact.

    Or maybe we’ll just see a slew of new usernames claiming they’ve been “long time readers of JBF but first time posters”.

    smh.

    Go Bucs
    Raymond Jameis Stadium

  31. Nick Says:

    @celly

    is there a problem with the calculations or do i need to cite my work to receive full credit?

  32. Celly Says:

    @Nick,

    My teachers would’ve made you show your work to get full credit, lol.

    But in all honesty, i appreciate your percentages because that was one of the things i hated most about math.

    If you took my post as disrespect, i apologize, as that was not my intent.

  33. Ray Rice Says:

    Ask MD who he would take, Mariota or Winston then choose the opposite.

  34. Bucs#1 Says:

    So basically, it’s really a very bad year to have the #1 pick in the draft

  35. Greg Schiano Says:

    Go Bucs Mariotta James Stadium!!

    I keep coming on here and believing the hype will have stopped and the Famous Porky Jameis mob will stop wanting to draft a QB who is slower than Joe! Not to mention the guy is a criminal who is just waiting for a prosecutor!

    I agree the Buc’s need a QB…they also need a HC. The guy currently coaching can’t find his tuccus with both hands in the dark! What about Bryce Petty?
    Yes, draft a QB…or trade that #1 pick for a HC and draft a QB in the 2nd round (Bryce Petty). If you look at statistics…your chances of hitting on a franchise QB are just as good in the 2nd round as the 1st round.

    The key is having someone who can coach/mentor the #1 criminal (pick). I was sitting at Mariotta James stadium last fall watching Lovie the Loser throw the game against the Saints.

    It ain’t natural to have a HC throw a game….on purpose I mean. All those times he threw the games with 12 men on the field, bad play calling, no defense, and horrible clock managment were probably not intentional!

    Greg Schiano

  36. Couch Fan Says:

    Amazing to me that Buc fans should know better than anybody how hard it is to get a franchise QB, and yet year after year we sit here and say “No lets wait til next year.” SMH. It’s almost as dumb people suggesting we hand the starting QB job again to someone without competition for a 3rd time and expecting different results. We gotta start learning from our mistakes.

  37. mac Says:

    I agree with the former worst GM in the league… We have to draft a QB… And that QB has to be Winston…

  38. Nick Says:

    @celly

    No problem, bud. Just wouldn’t put it past some of these guys to refute the laws of math. Data and math are lonely, abused mistresses in these parts.

  39. Underdog Says:

    The Bucs already have a good QB on their roster, however they DON’T have a good left tackle or defensive end/edge rusher. Just sayin’

  40. Buc1987 Says:

    Couch Fan…the ignorance gets ramped up the closer we get to the draft.

    38 days to go.

  41. Leonard Scarnesi Says:

    “But you can’t go into the draft with the assumption that you can trade down. You can’t just say, “I don’t think anyone is worth the first pick so I’ll take whatever trade offer comes my way”. That is not putting value in the draft. Besides, everyone can want to trade down, but if you can’t find someone to trade up, then you’re wasting your time.

    So, with that being said, if you can’t find a trade partner and you HAVE to make a pick, who do you select?”

    Reply: This is true. The Bucs might not have the opportunity to trade down. I meant that if the Bucs don’t feel either QB is worth the top pick and an interesting opportunity for a trade is offered, there is nothing wrong with taking the trade (or taking another player whom the Bucs are more enamored with.} I’m not opposed to any of these options. But I’ll check with Woody Hayes first – OK Joe?

  42. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    If a QB isn’t chosen, I may lose my sanity, unless L&L pull the trade of the century, which is unlikely.

  43. bucs4lyfe Says:

    yep 38 days to go Buc1987 and whats going to be great to see is after months of debating who will get on board with the draft pick….defensive end, MM or JW and then we’ll all see who is a real buc fan because you root for the players you have not the players you want….imagine having Winston and crying about mariotta or vice versa, imagine the ones that’ll be crying about glennon being buried on the depth chart behind a rookie or being shipped off for a 5th round pick even though he’s barely worth that

  44. Celly Says:

    @Nick

    Math and music are the only 2 universal languages.

    @Underdog

    And which QB would that be? The one that has let to lead us to a winning season? The one that couldn’t beat out Josh McCown, twice, for the starting gig? The one that manages to underthrow 6’5″ receivers? Or the one that would rather run out of bounds instead of sacrificing himself for the first down?

  45. Underdog Says:

    Couch Fan

    It’s probably because so many Bucs fans look at both of these QB’s and don’t see a true franchise QB there

  46. I know why Says:

    I agree with Dominik on taking a QB. If they didn’t then what does that say about the drafting of Glennon…the horror for some of you. I love how Dom is the worst GM ever, yep his fault on Freeman falling apart in front of us all. His fault on injuries, his fault on signing Vincent Jackson or drafting David. I just wish he would have traded that 1st round pick for Trent Richardson or Percy Harvin like the really good GM’s in Seattle and Indy did. We ended up trading ours for a 2x Pro Bowl, All Pro, SB ring Revis who just got paid by the Jets more than we did….Let the hatred go on Dominik. I do like listening to him on the radio, seems to me he learned a lot in his time in Tampa.

  47. The Buc Realist Says:

    Dominick has always talked a good game. He is able to change opinions and philosophy on the fly. That is great for a talking head on the TV and Radio. As a GM it was disastrous as we have been watching the fallout for years!!!

  48. Underdog Says:

    Celly

    The QB that has a better TD/INT ratio in the NFL than Winston had in college last year playing against weak basketball schools

  49. tmaxcon Says:

    Underdog

    what is glennon’s win loss record…. Here comes the excuses. Wins are all that matter. Glennon is a loser. period.

  50. Bucs#1 Says:

    Personally, I always liked Dominic. However, he couldn’t put a winning team on the field

  51. Buccfan37 Says:

    What a bunch of losers. The Bucs I mean. Can’t make up their minds who to pick. I figured as much.

  52. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Hahaha Peyton Manning in his prime wouldn’t have led us to a winning record the past two seasons. That’s a pointless support for the argument. Believe me I will not be happy if Glennon is our opening day starter next year, but the kid got dealt a crap hand and still managed to play alright.

    So if Winston doesn’t lead us to a winning season in his first 19 or so games, should we just give up on him??

  53. Underdog Says:

    tmaxcon

    So basically, every QB on a bad team is a loser, and every QB on a good team is a winner. GENIUS!!!

  54. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Hmmm…. You know, Peyton Manning, a first ballot HOF’er, was considered a bright spot on a poor Colts team.

    Manning went 5-15 in his first 20 starts.

    Glennon has gone 5-14 in his first 19 (if you want to count the ATL game).

    Gee, I bet Jim Irsay is glad he didn’t give up on Manning, after losing 3 times more than he won to start his career.

    Again, I am not endorsing Glennon as the starter, just trying to prove how idiotic of an argument that is.

  55. bucs4lyfe Says:

    no one in tampa bay is qualified to even speak on what a franchise qb is, you see what one looks like by looking at highlights, most of you never saw doug Williams play. we don’t even have a quarterback comparable to brad Johnson’s superbowl winning year as average as he was. so yes I would say you have to take a quarterback…..no many agree on who we should take at number one but what I do know is there are very few people saying glennon is the future. it’s just 1 pick and we get 8 this year……I think if that idiot took mark barron with the #7th pick we can take Winston or mariotta with the first. mark Dominick knows nothing about quarterbacks and he did it for a living so none of us can say this one or that one is a franchise quarterback, no one in the world can without it being an opinion, I just like it that more people think it about Winston than mariotta and im talking about people who actually making a living off football

  56. Celly Says:

    Underdog Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 11:29 am

    Celly

    The QB that has a better TD/INT ratio in the NFL than Winston had in college last year playing against weak basketball schools

    Sorry. I’d rather have the QB that manages to put his team on his back and carry them to victory.

    And since we want to throw out meaninless stats, here’s one for you:

    In Glennon’s 6 year football CAREER (College and NFL), he has only 5 more wins that Winston’s 2 years at FSU.

    And this is using very rudimentary math and searching. I only looked at NC State’s records while Glennon was there, not the games he actually guided them to, so that number could very well be lower.

    We can all play the stats game here, friend.

    Bucs#1 Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 11:32 am

    Personally, I always liked Dominic. However, he couldn’t put a winning team on the field

    Hard to use the word never when I clearly remember the last QB to lead us to a winning season was the QB drafted by him and that had less talent at the receiving positions…

    MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:
    March 23rd, 2015 at 11:35 am

    Hahaha Peyton Manning in his prime wouldn’t have led us to a winning record the past two seasons.

    See, that’s where we disagree. I think with a much better QB, we could’ve won more games. Winning record? Maybe not, but I guarantee if we had P.Manning, Rodgers or Brady, we would’ve won more games than we lost.

    A good QB can mask a lot of deficiencies.

    And if you don’t want to believe that, then you can look no further than the Colts the year Manning did not play.

    Subtract (basically) one player from that team and they only win 1 game that season…

  57. bucs4lyfe Says:

    you simply have to take a quarterback, the rules are so in favor of the offense and especially the quarterback and receivers that a quarterback will always pay bigger dividends than any other position in this era football

  58. Joe Says:

    Leonard:

    Answer: Maybe no one this year. I’m not one of those sit-at-home talent evaluators who have no credentials (like Joe)

    Joe gets his information from NFL types both at the various NFL events he attends (alas, Joe is fully credentialed by the NFL) and white collar NFL folks who text back and forth with Joe.

    You get your information from, where, fantasy draft meetings?

  59. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    @Celly,

    Well of course we would have won more games. But no winning record like you said, which is my point.

  60. StPeteBucsFan Says:

    TBBF is correct. And so is Dominik. There is no glaring talent in this draft to unseat either of the QB’s.

    The ONLY way I could possibly accept not taking a QB is if we score an RGIII kind of swap with beaucoup draft picks in return. In that case I will have to hope that L&L have done their due diligence and decided that there simply is NO player QB or otherwise worth the top pick this year.

    I don’t expect that to happen. I expect Fameis but if it’s MM then again I’ll simply have to trust L&L have discovered something that lead them to that decision.

    Can all of you imagine the reams and reams of info on both these QB’s that L&L are seeing and we are not?

  61. Erik with CleanAthletics.com Says:

    To me, Mariota is the only and obvious choice.

    tmoron strikes again…

  62. Edgewalker Says:

    Okay, kids, listen up:

    You can have a great offensive line, a great defense and great everything and still go nowhere if you have a bad QB.

    But if you have a good QB, you can build around that QB.

    The QB is a foundation you build around. So don’t be stupid.

  63. The Buc Realist Says:

    I would not trust dominick to pour a draft beer. That guy is the biggest Moron ever that has worked in the Bucs front office!

  64. Rich Says:

    Interesting. Any other time an article about one of “Dummynick’s” personnel opinions is referenced here, it is followed by an immediate chorus of malcontents bellyaching about what a miserable failure this man was as a GM, and how his opinions should only be considered in terms of what ‘not’ to do when running a professional football organization. Now he suddenly has a sound and well-reasoned point-of-view? I wonder why that is. Hmm…

  65. Buc1987 Says:

    Hmmmm do I listen to draft “experts” and analysts when they all say the same thing about JW or do I listen to Joe Blow Bucs Fan on JBF?

    That’s a tough call.

    Listen to the guys that do this for a living…or some moron on JBF?

    SMDH

  66. CreamsicleBananaHammock Says:

    Since 3/19 there have been 45 mock drafts added to the Walter Football mock draft database

    All 45 have the Bucs drafting Jameis Winston

  67. Pickgrin Says:

    George in Florida: – “I think we need to focus on offensive line. We had a decent offensive line when Mark got there – but since he never drafted any OLine players in his entire tenure as GM – Now, the Bucs are really paying the price up front for that lack of foresight. I just want to hear your opinions.”

    There George – I fixed your question for you to reflect reality and not sound so suck-upee.

  68. ddneast Says:

    I was all for drafting a QB with our No. 1 pick until TheDummmy said we had to. This guy was barely right about anything when he was a GM.

  69. MariotaOrWinstonOrWalkdaPlank Says:

    Lol it’s Monday 87, try not to hit the bottle too much this early in the week.

  70. ddneast Says:

    If The Dummy says he likes Mariota, that’s the best.endorsement I have heard for.Winston.

  71. I know why Says:

    The Buc Realist is a moron who hides behind a computer and types a tough game.

  72. Rob Says:

    I prefer the maturity of Mariota, but if the Bucs don’t draft him or Winston with that first pick, every single person involved in that decision should be fired.

  73. Bill Says:

    Pick a QB when you have the opportunity. We have the opportunity.

    Trading down now to fill out the roster is fine, but the part everybody wants to ignore is that this likely means you have to trade back up in the future to get your QB. It’s not an obvious net gain.

    PS – If you’re a Glennon fan, just save it, as this line of thinking doesn’t apply to you.

  74. BoltIsle Says:

    You draft a franchise QB and they will become your greatest recruiting tool. Adrian Peterson knows that. Why do you think he’s ok coming to Tampa?
    What kind of personality would you want your recruiting coordinator to have?
    A franchise QB will be able to attract quality OL either by trade or free agency. A franchise QB will also increase the chances for the Bucs to get a better contract deal from them.
    Thanks to Glennon for all his efforts, but he won’t attract high quality OL. He’ll always be a journeyman/backup type. The OL can be rebuilt quickly if done right. And sadly, as we learned, it can be blown up quickly. As fate would have it, there is no longer much to blow up.
    Trading the pick (Unless for 3 #1’s, at least, and a 2nd and a 3rd) or drafting a DL is lunacy when you have a chance to draft a QB for possibly 12-15 years. Any pick is a risk or chance, but you have to take it for a possible franchise QB with the number one overall.

  75. Java Says:

    Dominik wasn’t a good GM, at all. But he is smart in his comments today

  76. Dr Feelgood Says:

    Greg Schiano…the FBI are watching your house using UFOs as monitoring devices…get out of the house!! your conspiracy theory MUST be dead on!! Because coaches LOVE to throw games all year long to ensure job security!! We threw the LAST game and with damned good reason. We don’t want to have to choose the SYSTEM BOY NEXT BUST when we can take the MAN!! We didn’t throw the game for the one that DIDN’T win a National Championship but for one that has. Stop kidding yourselves people. The writing is on the wall and has been for SO long. Jameis is, and has to be, our pick, and you should be very thankful that we are in the position to draft him. Darren Sharper is a rapist and a criminal. Jameis is NOT! Go Bucs!!

  77. Leonard Scarnesi Says:

    To Joe:

    “Leonard:

    Answer: Maybe no one this year. I’m not one of those sit-at-home talent evaluators who have no credentials (like Joe)

    Joe gets his information from NFL types both at the various NFL events he attends (alas, Joe is fully credentialed by the NFL) and white collar NFL folks who text back and forth with Joe.

    You get your information from, where, fantasy draft meetings?”

    So Joe is fully credentialed by the NFL because he gets info from other people. That statement is fine comedy, if you think about it. So thanks for the mild laugh. Those are truly some great credentials you have.

    Also, I didn’t provide any information about anything. I don’t have any REAL credentials as an ‘expert’. Just like Joe.

    Your comment about attending fantasy draft meetings is pretty lame and weak. I guess it is meant to be a slam. JOE has always had big comprehension problems, so a strange comment by JOE is never totally unexpected, relevant or coherent.

  78. BoJim Says:

    Celly says

    @Buc1987
    I don’t know why I keep doing this to myself. I keep telling myself everyday that I’m not goign to come on here and argue with the uninformed,
    _________________________________________________________

    Ah! So you’re not a draft expert, we are just uninformed.