Main Offensive Problem? Penalties
December 5th, 2014
Yellow hankies are holding the Bucs back, says Vincent Jackson.
The Bucs offense is miserable. Joe doesn’t think that statement will shock any Bucs fan. In fact, most Bucs fans might just be trying to forget the Bucs offense.
Whether it is turnover-prone Josh McCown or slumping Doug Martin or the troubles of the offensive line, there are a myriad of reasons. But the receivers are not why the offense is lame.
Veteran receiver Vincent Jackson boiled the failures of the Bucs offense down to a singular subject. That would be penalties, especially those when the offense is trying to battle back in the final minutes of games.
“I think we touched on as far as the penalties,” Jackson said. “It seems like those rhythms – we started getting a flow going and then you set yourself back with a holding and you go from being at the 15- [or] 20-yard line to being back near the 40, almost out of field goal range. So any time that we can, just eliminate those penalties and just finish drives. I think that the two-minute and the up-tempo is a strength of this team and I hope that we can throw some of that in there the last couple of weeks and show that and let it be a strength for us.”
If the two-minute offense or the hurry-up offense of the Bucs is truly a strength, why not use it more often? It is almost like the ghost of former Bucs commander Greg Schiano has returned.
This is something Joe just does not understand. If a certain play works often or a style of play works often, then use it more often. Or are the Bucs, under a thick veil of secrecy, truly working for the first pick in the draft?
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December 5th, 2014 at 10:04 am
and the penalties are due to lack of coaching.
December 5th, 2014 at 10:07 am
Is it an offensive problem or a lack of discipline?
December 5th, 2014 at 10:19 am
At this point its on the players! The only coaching that can be done at this point is to start replacing players that don’t get it!
December 5th, 2014 at 10:25 am
There is usually a light at the end of the tunnel but this year it seems the light is getting dimmer rather than brighter.
Back to “wait til next year” again.
Go Bucs
December 5th, 2014 at 10:28 am
Top 4 teams in the NFL in penalties:
1. Tampa Bay
2. Seattle
3. Denver
4. New England
One of these things is not even close to the others…
December 5th, 2014 at 10:47 am
It will come, it takes time.
December 5th, 2014 at 10:58 am
Robert 9 Says:
December 5th, 2014 at 10:04 am
and the penalties are due to lack of coaching.
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Drrrrrrrr, the other top 3 teams in penalties are all excellent teams that have great records and supposedly great coaches. Your argument is about as relevant as me saying the penalties are a result of stupid posts by readers of JoeBucsFan.com.
December 5th, 2014 at 10:59 am
DB55 Says:
December 5th, 2014 at 10:47 am
It will come, it takes time
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OMG, optimism from DB55? Hath hell frozen over?
December 5th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Uhh Brandon you proved his point. They have excellent coaching to overcome their penalties, that’s why their elite. We have poor coaching which can’t overcome these penalties. Washington by the way is ranked 5th so yeah, poor coaching cannot overcome penalties and great coachign can is the moral of the story.
December 5th, 2014 at 11:13 am
@brandon
lol, yup that’s it, that’s the ticket. #optimism #actuallypuresarcasm #comeonman
December 5th, 2014 at 11:33 am
If the Bucs did’nt commit multiple stupid penalties every game, they would’nt be the Bucs.
December 5th, 2014 at 11:37 am
I understand we are 2-10. However if you go back to the beginning of the season we sucked at all 3 phases of the game. Since that time the defence as made hugh improvements and special teams has gotten better with the exception of returner. That doesn’t happen with out good coaching. The thing that continues to kill us is our offensive line and quarter back play. Witch were questionable going into this season. My point is we need a lot fewer pieces to finish turning this thing around than we thought we did 8 weeks ago. we are close.
December 5th, 2014 at 11:44 am
^Close to what? Being 6-10? Is this people’s goals? To not be horrible? Or to win the Super Bowl?
Because we are not even remotely close to winning the Super Bowl. We’re the worst team in the worst division ever. We can’t even beat bottom feeders from other divisions. 5 years. at least, away from thinking Super Bowl. When people talk about “patience”, I hope they mean it because that’s the kind of patience it’s going to take.
December 5th, 2014 at 11:53 am
The penalties are huge issue that being said they suck because Lovie and Licht ran without a QB from the start. Glennon should have been discarded with the other trash and maybe a 5th round pick. Now they will be lucky to salvage a 7th rounder. The loss of Tedford which I believe is NOT related to health issues but the fact he came to the realization that no matter what he did Lovie would micro mange and not allow for hmm to run HIS offense. If I was tedford I would have bailed too before he got labeled a nfl failure and cost himself millions of future income because of the archaic head coah and his unwillingness to play any offense at all.
December 5th, 2014 at 11:54 am
Brandon — Your overwhelming positivity and willingness to give the benefit of the doubt makes me want you on my Jury if I ever get busted….
December 5th, 2014 at 11:56 am
Bucs average 1.7 extra offensive penalties per game. Not enough to make a difference.
December 5th, 2014 at 12:00 pm
@ brandon…
you know how many audibled NE and Denver call? It’s like a frickin algebra lesson before the snap. I expect some penalties in that situation. It’s complicated, and they confuse and then demolish their opponent based on the D they are showing.
Tampa?? not so much. we don’t audible. hell they have a hard enough time getting the plays in, or getting to the line, or counting to 12…..much less audible.
carry on.
December 5th, 2014 at 12:02 pm
lol Tmax.
brandon is either
a. simple
b. high – all the time
c. new to the bucs
d. lovie smith
e. all of the above
I pick e.
December 5th, 2014 at 12:21 pm
Penalties are a real problem. Yes. It’s obvious. But a new problem arose last week on offense too. That would be the 5yd roll snap. AKA the Gilkey Snap.
December 5th, 2014 at 12:51 pm
Penalties are killing us but not as much as mccown inability to read defenses or find the open rvc.
December 5th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
Here’s a fun game to play: when the Bucs have a “good” play on offense (like 8 yards or more) watch the NEXT play and how often it is a penalty or a sack. The Bucs notoriously follow a good play with a bad and undo their good fortunes. They are allergic to playing well.
December 5th, 2014 at 1:31 pm
28. Josh McCown: Why did they bench Mike Glennon again? McCown has done virtually nothing positive the last two weeks. Glennon is a better player now, and has more room to grow. Chris Wesseling disagrees with me so vehemently on this issue that I wanted to cross-check my eyeballs and notes with the numbers: ESPN’s QBR rating, Football Outsiders and PFF all rank Glennon higher this year, too.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000438501/article/qb-index-ranking-the-starters-132
December 5th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
DB55 — they both suck… a turd is a turd is a turd… Nice guys crappy qb’s
Robert9 — I’ll go with e as well but hopefully he is just b
December 5th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
Zam, the 1.5 extra penaties are just a stat. It is the TIMING of these penalties. you can overcome false start and holding during the 1st half. It is penalties late in 4th quarter trying to take a lead or get into FG position. I still can not believe at the beginning of the 2nd quarter last week Tampa had to take a TO before running the play. What the hell were they talking about during the 3 mins they had during the commercials.
December 5th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
does anyone know if the human penalty machine collins can play any other o-line positions besides tackle???
December 5th, 2014 at 4:30 pm
This season is over, I’m just hanging around watching to see if the defense can keep playing better. The offense, god willing, will be thrown on the scrap heap as soon as the season is done. New QB, new OC, new OL. Who cares about what they do right now?