Becht On O-Line Doom
December 23rd, 2014
How critical is the situation on the Buccaneers’ offensive line?
Former Bucs tight end Anthony Becht says if the Tampa Bay can’t generate a fast fix, then they’re looking at multiple years of doom.
Becht dove into this and other topics on WDAE-AM 620 this week.
“This the main area that has to get cleaned up immediately because if not, you’re talking about a couple more years getting set back,” Becht said of the offensive line. “And you gotta find ways to get this fixed.”
Becht has long maintained that the Bucs’ running backs are just fine.
On Anthony Collins, he said the “insides” aren’t there and the Bucs just swung and missed on a guy who didn’t give the same output after getting a big paycheck.
You can listen to all of Becht’s takes below.
December 23rd, 2014 at 4:51 pm
Of course he’s talking about Mankins. At this point I’m thinking we’re about as likely to see Mankins return next year at his current contract as we are to seeing a comeback for Aron Sears.
The team definitely needs to add competitive starter quality players in free agency and the draft. No spot should be guaranteed, may the best (only) capable men win.
December 23rd, 2014 at 4:54 pm
I agree with Anthony. All this stuff about lack of an OC….how many offensive plays are there? Maybe 20 or 30? They practiced them in camp. they know the terminology. It’s not rocket science. They run, they screen, they do do outs, they do longs etc. ITS THE OFFENSIVE LINE, period. Give Glennon enough time, open some holes and voila, they win more than 2 games.
December 23rd, 2014 at 4:58 pm
Not disagreeing with Becht about Collins, but I think an OC who will run multiple sets and different schemes could help fix a lot of these OL problems.
As it is, the play calling and sets are so predictable teams are starting to tee off on the line. It’s hard enough to block someone, it’s even tougher to block someone who pretty much knows what the play is and where it’s going to go.
I think the same thing said about Collins is what you could say about Michael Johnson. It.’s unfortunate, but sometimes you can’t judge how a player is going to perform once they get really rich. See Albert Haynesworth.
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:04 pm
Really monk, 29 or 30 plays that’s it. That maybe all Arroyo but I can assure you that is not the case with most NFL teams.
As far as their pass plays you are right. Most of the time all they runs is outs. The team avoids the middle of the field like it has the plague.
As far as running plays, the teams usually just tries to slam the ball up the middle and rarely uses traps or pulling guards. Gets pretty predictable don’t you think.
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:25 pm
I only hope Lovie/Licht pick Marriotta or Winston and then go all O-Linemen. I look at it now as insurance/protection for our first round investment.
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:26 pm
If I readonemore report of Lovie trading the pick to Chicago for Jay Primadonna” Cutler I am going to scream!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:33 pm
maybe i’m stereotyping, maybe i’m too focused on the Bucs’ own history, but it always seems like the guys in the trenches represent the biggest risks in free agency. it’s a punishing job for people constantly maintaining unnatural weight and proportion, and they and RBs seem to be the most prone to the contract year performance boost. i’d personally find it hard to stay disciplined after signing a big contract to play for an irrelevant football team. better to get these guys young, (figuratively) hungry, cheap, and in large quantities and let the best of them grow together and have a little pride as a unit.
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:38 pm
Imagine this. We get Tim Tebow to come out of retirement to play a brand new position…the T back. This puts Tebow all over the field, except under center as a QB. He could line up as a blocking Tight End…a receiving tight end…split wide…in the backfield as a blocking or running fullback hybrid..he could catch out of the backfield…he could lineup wide…he would be the “T” back or the wild card. Imagine trying to blitz the Bucs QB if he could turn and quickly hit Tebow who could then himself fire a pass downfield. No Tebow is not an NFL QB. But we’re not talking about the need to hit really tight windows…the trickery would have guys open wide enough for even Tebow to hit.
Now if you’re a Glazer and you draft Jameis Winston…you have an FSU Heisman throwing to a UF Heisman….think that would sell tickets?
After taking Jameis the Bucs package some of their lower round draft pics along with Mike Glennon to move up in the first high enough to get an Andrus Peat/Scherff/Stanley franchise tackle. Then take the next two choices and draft for the guard/center positions. Bookend stud tackles in the rookie and Dotson and at least one NFL quality guard.
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:44 pm
Trade down….twice in the 1st round
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:45 pm
I do not blame mccown/glennon and the running backs. the bucs whole problem has been the 0-line. QB’s can’t throw when they are under extreme pressure. Running backs can’t run if the 0-line can’t create holes.
December 23rd, 2014 at 5:59 pm
All we really know about McCown is he is poor when under extreme pressure playing for an inexperienced play caller. He seems worse than average in these circumstances although the NFL has not had this poor a 1-2 offensive punch like this in about forever. We don’t know how he is with an average offensive line and an OK offensive coordinator. He did seem pretty good last year when he had those.
We know about the same about a Mariotta or Winston. My guess is they wouldn’t fare much better in McCown’s shoes.
Positions 1-5 to focus on are all on the offensive line.
December 23rd, 2014 at 7:48 pm
Sorry but Warhop is incompetent and so has every O line Coach they’ve had in recent years. Look at how well Zuttah is playing. Even Ted Larsen is playing well. Penn was always solid, never great but solid. Lovie destroyed this line with bad evaluation and he isn’t competent enough to fix it. This team is years away from achieving 8-8. Now they’re going to cut Clayborn loose. Lovie is a complete joke and the laughingstock of the League. The Glazers should fire Lovie and hire Harbaugh.
December 23rd, 2014 at 7:50 pm
I wonder if the Saints will also try to lose Sunday and if the whole thing turns into a comedy of errors.
December 23rd, 2014 at 9:09 pm
This is off topic but I forgot to mention earlier and then didn’t have time to call in on the Big Dawg show. Both QB’s could be very good depending on what team they go too. For instance Mariota could very well be the 2nd coming of A. Rodgers if he goes to the: eagles, falcons, saints, lions,cowboys, redskins, bronco’s, patriots, etc. But J. Winston would do better on teams like the: steelers, Bucs, rams, cardinals, ravens, jets, dolphins, panthers, etc. Stylez make fights you know. On a team predicated on defense Winston is your man but on a team where offense is the strengh then Mariota is the guy. Mariota will be wasted on the Bucs because are a mean defensive oriented team that should be playing in the NFC West. That’s all I’m saying there is nothing wrong with either of them just the style
December 23rd, 2014 at 10:36 pm
Well, the underclassmen (and Peat is one, so is Winston) have until Jan. 15 to declare for the draft. If we’re not going after Winston, then I still say trade down and build up the O line….Hundley and Petty can be had in the 2nd-3rd.
December 23rd, 2014 at 11:16 pm
Cutler-McCown.
Lovie wants what Lovie wants.
December 23rd, 2014 at 11:32 pm
Its both oc and o-line. One game I saw our guard omaneh chasing the tackle on 3 different occasions. How can we judge mg Martin even mcclown.. It’s that bad. Mariotta and Winston would struggle behind this line too..
December 24th, 2014 at 12:29 am
What happened to Kevin Pamphile and Kadeem Edwards ? Are these draft busts or do they have raw talent that can be turned into capable linemen next year . If not that draft is looking pretty poor besides Mike Evans .