McCown Predicted To Last 10 Games As Starter
June 11th, 2014
“Keep grinding, my son.”
Here’s a serving of cake and coffee for the Mike Glennon Mob: Pat Kirwan, the former Jets personnel executive and linebackers coach who’s now an analyst for CBS Sports and NFL Radio, has served up a bold take on eight starting quarterbacks he believes already are on a hot seat.
Kirwan checked in with various NFL front office suits, plus coaches, and crafted a list.
One pair of broiling buttocks, Kirwan says, belongs to new Bucs starter Josh McCown, joining the likes of Brian Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Chad Henne, Matt Cassel, Geno Smith and Jake Locker. Kirwan offered little hope any of those starters would make it through the season before being defrocked in favor of their backups.
Kirwan predicted 10 McCown starts and then a new Glennon era would begin.
Contracts speak louder than opinions, and none of the starting eight QBS here are anywhere near the top paid players on their roster. Schaub has the highest average salary at $6.75 million, which is not close to true NFL starter money. As a group, they average $3.25 million a year, which is backup money for quarterbacks and most of them are on short-term deals.
I surveyed a few NFL coaches, front office executives and former NFL people, and the two QBs most likely to complete the season as the starter were Cassel and Fitzpatrick, followed by Jake Locker. But no one thought they would all make it through the 16-game regular season as starters.
McCown must prove himself once the season begins, but Joe doubts Lovie Smith will have a quick hook.
However, the hook should be there if McCown doesn’t look like “the guy” and the Bucs have faded from the playoff chase. Lovie and Jason Licht aren’t foolish enough to roll through an entire year with a 35-year-old quarterback who isn’t performing — and one who has never played a good full season in the NFL.
If that becomes the Bucs’ sad reality, then there’s little reason not to roll with Glennon to see if he can rebound from his dreadful December and look like a winner — or potential winner — in Jeff Tedford’s offense.
Kirwan’s survey of NFL executives is very intriguing. Damn, Joe would love to hear that chatter.
June 11th, 2014 at 11:45 am
Not concerned. an able backup is available. I think he will make it through the season.
June 11th, 2014 at 11:47 am
No one predicted McCown’s rise last year after Cutler went down either.
June 11th, 2014 at 11:55 am
Hopefully this does not come to fruition. That would mean we are losing, or an abysmal offense that the defense I saving.
June 11th, 2014 at 11:55 am
I’m rooting for McCown, but I don’t think it will be that long.
I say by week 6 he gets KTFO because of our O line. At this point Glennon comes in and does as well or better. That’s the last we’ll see of McCown, but I’m damn glad he’ll be there for the CANNON when he needs some pointers.
June 11th, 2014 at 11:58 am
McCown had one of the better QB coaches as his HC last year, but we don’t know how much of what he learned will be transferred to his time with Tedford as his OC. The Glennon Mob wishes no ill will to McCown, in fact “Good Josh’s” brief time as being named starting QB has served as motivation for MG8 and the example of pro QB work ethic Mike had not been around his rookie season with ‘Bad Josh’. Hang your heads high McCown Posse, even if your guy somehow manages to keep the starting QB role to mid-season the MGM salutes you for helping the Cannon 🙂
June 11th, 2014 at 12:00 pm
With “Old man McCown” the Future is near!!!
June 11th, 2014 at 12:07 pm
McCown has never played a full season of football as a starter.
There is a logical reason for this — bad quarterbacks generally find their way to the bench either through poor play or stupid mistakes that cause themselves to get injured (taking too many bad sacks, making ill-advised runs, etc).
McCown is a bad quarterback. Don’t be fooled by a five game small sample size — trust the larger sample size of a decade-plus of bad play.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:07 pm
Pablo would be shocked for McCown to last half the season. Guy is not durable he is the white mike vick
June 11th, 2014 at 12:12 pm
As smart as everyone says Glennon is, he probably could start now. Glennon needs to learn not only his playbook but master reading defenses. When he master’s that I believe the more decisive he’ll become. Once he’s comfortable with reading defenses the less reluctant he’ll be pulling the trigger, and less likely to take a sack on purpose. The dude has shown he can throw a 40 yard frozen rope with the best of them. Watch the flight of the ball (low arch) in relation to distance. He definitely has a stronger arm than McCown. I think Pat may be right, McCown will hit a wall, unless his arm can stay healthy for a whole season, but as his history shows, he’s never gone the distance, and especially now, at the mortal age of 35.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
McCown, from all reports, appears light years better than Glennon in the workouts thus far. Unless Glennon improves significantly over the course of the season, I don’t see how he would be a better option unless McCown suffers some kind of mental meltdown.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
Special thanks to all the doubters, it fuels us and without them success wouldn’t be nearly as fun as when you get to shove their “expert predicitions” back down their throats.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
Isn’t Tedford working with McCown on reviewing the plays before they are installed? Isn’t McCown putting in the extra time to get the entire O up to speed?
Don’t see a problem with the OC at all. He’s coachable on the concepts.
His execution and durability will decide his fate.
Let’s not pack the Cannon with extra powder just yet.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:20 pm
I think Lovie would prefer to go with Glennon next year so the only way McCown is yanked is if his performance is detrimental to the team. Based on his play last year and the way his teammates talk about him I doubt that will be the case.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:24 pm
Lovie is going with the guy who can win him some games.
That’s as far as his loyalties will eve go.
Same as any other player on any other team.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
Utter nonsense. The only thing takes McCown out the starting role is an injury. The smarts, skill, and leadership he brings will not be benched on the word of some pundit trying to make news.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
“McCown, from all reports, appears light years better than Glennon in the workouts thus far.”
Really? I guess I missed those reports. I’ve heard they are both performing well.
June 11th, 2014 at 12:58 pm
Does this mean that I won’t being cashing in on the $10.00 bet made in Vegas for the Bucs to win the Super Bowl?
June 11th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
I guess to some, I would be considered part of that silly MGM, I really like the kid and think he has promise, but I’m a Buc fan first and foremost and obviously want what’s best for the team, and I have to say I was happy with the Josh McCown signing from the start, this gives Glennon a proper way to become a full time starter by watching and learning from Josh, he didn’t have this luxury last year, was just thrown to the wolves (THIS is why they signed Josh).
But as the team starts to come together, it’s clear McCown has the respect of his teammates, and from what I’m reading, he’s spot on in practice, and that really fires me up, he might really be the Tampa version of Rich Gannon, who dominated this league in his twilight years, the light just came on for him, and I feel the same seems possible for Josh, so I’m all for him starting. This whole division of allegiance (MG vs JM) is crazy , if you merely like Mike Glennon, then your part of this “made up” MGM, everything is either left or right, no in between, it’s silly for God sake, why can’t we just be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mob? This MGM thing just encourages some people to dislike a player (MG) that might otherwise be pretty damn good down the line, instead we have a local radio host (SD) that makes fun of him constantly, downplays anything positive he does and will not budge on his overall stance of MG, and he has a partner in crime (just your average joe 😉 that seems to be on the same bandwagon, and I’ll admit,he does appear to be softening just a little on this topic, we’ll see after today’s show.
Bottom line, we Buc fans just want the best starting QB to be behind center, and whoever that is (based on competing in camp/preseason) I’m going to support him 100%, I just hope our media friends here do the same, but I’m not holding my breath.
June 11th, 2014 at 1:24 pm
I agree with Orca & Biff Barker… I think McCown is too far ahead of Glennon, physically & mentally for Glennon to beat him out anytime soon. Maybe in 2-3years Glennon will finally be starting, but our best case scenario is for McCown to perform well and lead us to the playoffs… Any other scenario means we are struggling.
June 11th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
If McCown doesn’t get injured I see him starting all 16 games. But I also see Glennon starting 2015. We shall see.
June 11th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but McCown didn’t get injured AT ALL last year filling in for Cutler in 8 games. (and Chicago had a HORRIBLE line)
With McCown’s awareness and quick delivery (two things Glennon needs to work on desperately), McCown will be just fine….unless Anthony Collins is secretly an MGMer and sabotages McCown’s protection.
June 11th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
Preach on Bucfever40!!!!
June 11th, 2014 at 2:25 pm
Bucfever40 Says:
June 11th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
I guess to some, I would be considered part of that silly MGM, I really like the kid and think he has promise, but I’m a Buc fan first and foremost and obviously want what’s best for the team, and I have to say I was happy with the Josh McCown signing from the start, this gives Glennon a proper way to become a full time starter by watching and learning from Josh, he didn’t have this luxury last year, was just thrown to the wolves (THIS is why they signed Josh).
But as the team starts to come together, it’s clear McCown has the respect of his teammates, and from what I’m reading, he’s spot on in practice, and that really fires me up, he might really be the Tampa version of Rich Gannon, who dominated this league in his twilight years, the light just came on for him, and I feel the same seems possible for Josh, so I’m all for him starting. This whole division of allegiance (MG vs JM) is crazy , if you merely like Mike Glennon, then your part of this “made up” MGM, everything is either left or right, no in between, it’s silly for God sake, why can’t we just be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mob? This MGM thing just encourages some people to dislike a player (MG) that might otherwise be pretty damn good down the line, instead we have a local radio host (SD) that makes fun of him constantly, downplays anything positive he does and will not budge on his overall stance of MG, and he has a partner in crime (just your average joe 😉 that seems to be on the same bandwagon, and I’ll admit,he does appear to be softening just a little on this topic, we’ll see after today’s show.
Bottom line, we Buc fans just want the best starting QB to be behind center, and whoever that is (based on competing in camp/preseason) I’m going to support him 100%, I just hope our media friends here do the same, but I’m not holding my breath.
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Excellent take, and agree completely!
tickrdr (charter member of the MGM, but I root for the Bucs)
June 11th, 2014 at 2:36 pm
@ Ether
“With McCown’s awareness and quick delivery (two things Glennon needs to work on desperately),…”
Might want to go back through the articles from a week or two ago, current Bucs QB coach might disagree with your assessment of Glennon
June 11th, 2014 at 3:01 pm
It’s going to be interesting to see how the fans and the Bucs respond to what could be a rough start to the 2014 season.
Our first 6 games: CAROLINA, ST. LOUIS, at Atlanta, at Pittsburgh, at New Orleans, BALTIMORE
If the Bucs start off 1 – 5. Do we stay the course or turn to Glennon after the week 7 bye-week?
June 11th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
Bucfever40 Says:
June 11th, 2014 at 1:11 pm
“…I’m a Buc fan first and foremost and obviously want what’s best for the team…”
“…This whole division of allegiance (MG vs JM) is crazy , if you merely like Mike Glennon, then your (sic) part of this “made up” MGM, everything is either left or right, no in between, it’s silly for God sake, why can’t we just be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mob? This MGM thing just encourages some people to dislike a player (MG) that might otherwise be pretty damn good down the line, instead we have a local radio host (SD) that makes fun of him constantly, downplays anything positive he does and will not budge on his overall stance of MG, and he has a partner in crime (just your average joe that seems to be on the same bandwagon, and I’ll admit,he does appear to be softening just a little on this topic, we’ll see after today’s show.
Bottom line, we Buc fans just want the best starting QB to be behind center, and whoever that is (based on competing in camp/preseason) I’m going to support him 100%, I just hope our media friends here do the same, but I’m not holding my breath.”
–Well said, and I completely agree.
Why the divisiveness, you might ask? It’s simply the low-hanging fruit. It is much more difficult to unite than it is to divide. Many people are more interested in being right than they are in being a supportive, educated fan. That mindset is continually reinforced by the local media, and since most people just follow along, this is the end result.
June 11th, 2014 at 3:25 pm
These predictions are as pointless as a mock draft
June 11th, 2014 at 3:36 pm
Not sure if I am repeating anyone’s sentiments – didn’t read all the comments – but if McCown gets yanked at any point during the season, it’s a bad year for the Bucs. A win now team goes in with the best QB that’s going to win for the whole season. You don’t groom a young QB to come in midseason if your goal is immediate success. A rebuilding team can do that, not a win now team. So diehard MGM members need to be careful what they wish for if they are true Buc fans.
Root for the best players to win, not your favorite.
June 11th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
I’m more comfortable with Josh starting. As much as I want the Cannon to play, I would rather he sit behind Josh for a year (as long as we’re winning).
June 11th, 2014 at 4:14 pm
Kirwan must be a McCown fan. 10 games is very generous until the Future starts.
June 11th, 2014 at 5:01 pm
Since the mock prediction industrial complex is in full swing, I’ll offer up also. I get a gut feeling that McCown will play good QB for the Bucs and bring the team and it’s fans some wins.