A Celebrity Joins The MGM
May 5th, 2014
“You have friends in high places, my son.”
Most regular readers of Joe know that “MGM” stands for the Mike Glennon Mob, the vocal, outspoken gang of cheerleaders that love and enjoy everything about the Bucs’ backup quarterback.
So infatuated with Glennon as a rookie third round pick who had yet to take a snap in a presesaon game, they demanded he replace a veteran who had just come off a season throwing for a franchise-record 4,065-yards. Can you imagine?
Well, the MGM’s dreams came true when leaky, sleepy Rip Van Freeman went mental and was eventually benched and jettisoned.
Joe can only think of roughly five drives that left Joe impressed by Glennon. Five drives. In 13 starts. That’s not a good ratio.
And while the MGM got their wish and were giddy beyond all reason, Glennon proceeded to gradually run the Bucs offense into the ground, leading Tampa Bay to lowest yardage total in the NFL.
For reference, here is the gruesome list of quarterbacks that also led their respective teams to last place in total offense the previous five seasons:
* John Skelton-Kevin Kolb-Ryan Lindley, Arizona, 2012
* Blaine Gabbert-Luke McCown Jacksonville, 2011
* Jimmy Clausen-Matt Moore Carolina, 2010
* Brady Quinn-Derek Anderson Cleveland, 2009
* Ryan Fitzpatrick-Carson Palmer Cincinnati, 2008
Never fear! The cavalry is coming to defend Glennon. And who is on the lead horse? No less than fight-instigating, barista-training, pedestrian-bumping, olive oil-lapping, popcorn-munching, coffee-slurping, fried-chicken-eating, oatmeal-loving, circle-jerking, beer-chugging, cricket-watching, scone-loathing, college football-naïve, baseball box score-reading Peter King of SI.com and theMMQB.com fame. He wrote this morning in his must-read weekly column that the Bucs simply cannot yet give up Glennon without significant compensation from another team.
3. I think I don’t understand the Bucs apparently being open to dumping Mike Glennon. This is a player with potential, and a sponge, who doesn’t have to have anything handed to him, and could be a part of the long-term solution at quarterback for the Bucs. To get, say, a fifth-round pick for Glennon is just not commensurate with what he delivered last season in a promising rookie year.
Look, there is clearly something in Glennon’s game that new Bucs coach Lovie Smith and general manager Jason Licht did not like. One of their first moves was to get journeyman Josh McCown and name him their No. 1 QB. McCown will never make a fan forget Ken O’Brien much less Dan Marino. That should tell people something.
Perhaps L&L know a general manager or two that thinks like King does about Glennon.
L&L have shown little to no patience or loyalty to players from the previous regime. As Lovie likes to point out, “We were 4-12 last year.”
And had the worst offense in the NFL.
May 5th, 2014 at 7:11 am
I agree that we should get more than a 5th round pick for Glennon. He absolutely proved that he can play to at least his third round selection.
A team would do well to give up a third round pick for a guaranteed good young, cheap backup.
May 5th, 2014 at 7:16 am
Joe,
I root for Glennon because he has potential, wants to get better, is committed to his craft and because he deserves just as much of a chance as Freeman.
I think it’s comical for you to remain unable to give Glennon his due.
I hope we keep Glennon, and we can can see what he looks like in camp.
I think it’s comical to see all of the scorn Freemanites continue to have their fan settings on “auto-hate” towards Glennon.
I also think it is impossible to judge Glennon with any merit, without seeing what he can do beyond 13 games.
Lemony kid yourselves, Glennon was drafted for potential, and Freeman is the biggest bust in Bucs history.
Fans, like me, are pulling for Glennon because it’s obvious to tell he has potential and gives a sh!t. The other guy was all potential with a broken give-a-sh!t.
No doubt, and please give this MGMee his due when we pass on QB at 7.
American Freedom
May 5th, 2014 at 7:25 am
Maybe the Bucs could restructure Glennon’s contract to a “team-friendly” one, like the one Joe wanted the Bucs to give Freeman.
JOE KNOWS QBs
May 5th, 2014 at 7:27 am
Who sets franchise bests and comes back the next year unable to play?
#JoshFreemanBiggestBustInBucsHistory
May 5th, 2014 at 7:28 am
^(called it)
May 5th, 2014 at 7:28 am
Just to remind you I mention Mighty Joe (STEVE) Young. But you may just be to young to remember back that far with the chasing after the likes of RW
May 5th, 2014 at 7:29 am
PUN INTENDED
May 5th, 2014 at 7:30 am
Done on this article, after this one:
At least Glennon takes responsibility, and he can audible.
Couldn’t get Freeman to do either after 60 starts.
Glennon deserves a chance, nothing more, and it would be stupid as hell to deny him that because you (Freemanites) are butt hurt.
May 5th, 2014 at 7:35 am
@Joe RW???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Xrb…
May 5th, 2014 at 7:39 am
Every single time Glennon’s name gets brought up the offense being ranked last comes up. What about all the other players that were helping him. It’s not THEY’RE fault? The offensive COORDINATOR get’s none of the blame either? Injuries, dropped passes none of that? How about all of the field goals that were missed? That does count for our offensive points scored does it not? Go ahead and add those up with everything else. If he threw 20 interceptions instead of 9 I’d understand the criticism but he at least deserves training camp to show how much he has improved and what he can do under better coaching. I wouldn’t take less than a third maybe fourth
May 5th, 2014 at 7:41 am
MGLM
Mike Glennon Lynch Mob
May 5th, 2014 at 7:46 am
And Kings credibility just took a huge nose dive. Didn’t King think Schiano needed another year to implement his “plan”. Does King also think the Bucs should draft a long snapper with the 7th pick?
May 5th, 2014 at 7:54 am
@ Joe,
I’m not part of the MGM, but i still see potential.
At the end of the day he still had a good td to int ratio as a rookie with probably the worst offensive system in the league and virtually no running game.
I’d like to see a breakdown of his numbers when he actually had help from the run game say 100 yards as the meter. I’d bet his numbers, look pretty good.
He may lack some arm strength to push the ball down the field but so does Teddy Bridgewater.
If you can’t get Johnny Football, Mike Glennon is the best option available for next year over the field of rookies to backup McCown. LEts not bash the guy that bad, good chance he stays in Tampa and could eventually be a Brad Johnson type for us.
Thats all Lovie really needs, right?
May 5th, 2014 at 7:55 am
It’s funny how Glennon can get praise on one hand and derision on the other. To some he stunk up the game, to others he showed potential. Some fans have’nt liked him since day one and others the opposite. Many want him gone, I hope he stays. Schiano drafted well, recognized talent some say. How about Glennon? It would be a mistake to lose him, imo.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:00 am
Come on, Joe. You talk as if no other HC would bring in a veteran to mentor a rookie. Also, Lovie has said that McCown is the ‘starter’ as of the first day of camp, “because someone has to be at the top” of the chart. That doesn’t sound like a resounding vote of confidence for the new guy.
But, McCown is making a LOT more money and has years of experience. Factor in, also, that Lovie is familiar with McCown and you have the reasons why Josh is here and heads the list (at least temporarily).
Who knows what the opening day lineup will look like.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:06 am
Gotta say Joe, that you are way off base on this and I’m not a huge Glennon fan.
The OC deserves the lion’s share of the blame for the piss poor offensive output. You remember Sully right? He was the guy you had us worried about leaving for a HC job.
How’d that work out.
I remember too how you wanted to do the smart thing and sign JF to a nice extension.
How’d that work out?
Your lust for Manziel seems to trump any inkling of cognitive thought that you may have had before you became obsessed with J Football.
I appreciate the website, but thank God you have no hand in Buccaneer operations.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:09 am
Joe, we talked on twitter yesterday. The Bears GM also pointed out that drafting a franchise guy is a round 1 or 2 thing. Yes, every lifetime there might be a Wilson or Brady. I am not convinced that Glennon is the guy to carry team Lovie, and it seems L and L think the same. Is he a good kid, yes, is he a hard worker, yes. All because he is a “good guy” does not say he is a top tier QB. I hope they find their guy in round 1 or 2 this year.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:16 am
Agree with what ” Hawk says ” on this one. JMc here because Lovie has to show big improvement in years 1 & 2. Perhaps the staff does believe in MG but feel more comfortable with a veteran in the first year.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:18 am
I’d rather have “The Fat Shaun King” as the starting QB than Glennon.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:23 am
I cant wait to get home from work and read the 175 comments on this article.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:31 am
Look Rip van Freeman ended up busting for us, but as a rookie he showrd more with less then Glennon. In case most of you forgot the kid led a team whose best receiver was Michael Clayton with a comeback victory against the super bowl champs, in his FIRST start. And had 2 nore game winning drives that year. In a year with less talent then Glennon. If stats were thr final indicator, then guys like Timmy Chang and Trevor Vittitoe, should have been 1st round picks. What Lovie and Lict might have seen is that Glennon was a system QB that doesn’t fit their system just like how college coaches act when they brought into s new system. Plain and simple it happens
May 5th, 2014 at 8:38 am
You have to think that the Bucs watched every single Glennon snap over and over..Tedford watched all of Glennon’s practice tape…probably timed his release, watched his foot work etc…how do we know (not watching the coach’s tape) if Glennon was missing open receivers or if he was not picking up the blitz etc…The Bucs watched all of this tape and their response was to grab a 35yr old with little starting experience. I think that is telling of they saw on tape.
Side Note: I wasn’t much of a Freeman fan, but he did get us in position to win games in the 4th quarter.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:43 am
Seriously Joe maybe i missed something but I’m slow because i don’t get your punchline. Is that the best Jan you have to throw at Freeman?
“leaky, sleepy Rip Van Freeman”
May 5th, 2014 at 8:48 am
So, McCown is Joe’s evidence they don’t believe in Glennon.
No. McCown is Lovie’s evidence they don’t believe in Glennon. –Joe
How many non rookie contract starting QBs make only 5 million a year?
For Joe, McCown at 5 mill a year means they don’t trust Glennon. For others, it means they know that didn’t have a ton of experience at the position, or really anyone for Glennon to learn from last year. So, they brought in a guy to either play for a while or as solid back-up and someone for the younger QBs to emulate.
Heck, if we listened to Joe, Freeman would have been signed to a long term team friendly contract at around 8 mill a year, and a ton guaranteed. (there’s no way his agent would have agreed to less)
May 5th, 2014 at 8:52 am
I love the MGM they love this guy and but can’t understand why this is the NFL you can play or you can’t clearly he can’t. Why waist time with him what don’t you understand. last that’s what he and the O ranked last year. Blame it on whatever you want. he was the QB and he stinks. If you want a QB that passes for 200 yards a game you don’t know anything about football stop talking!
May 5th, 2014 at 9:01 am
No. McCown is Lovie’s evidence they don’t believe in Glennon. –Joe
Strictly, in you opinion. – ODB
If that’s your opinion … –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:04 am
Much like extending Freeman would have been wise in your opinion.
Grain of salt, as they say…..
Look, one can project and spin all things in all directions. Joe’s not sure what’s up your ass. Yes, after the 2012 season, Joe was in favor of offering Freeman a team-friendly extension, not one of the massive deals thrown at Ryan, Stafford, Cutler, etc. Joe also wouldn’t have wasted a third-round pick on Glennon or any other QB in last year’s draft. Perhaps if Freeman was shown more confidence, he would have performed better and not melted down. It’s not the Bucs’ fault Freeman crumbled, but it sure wouldn’t have hurt the team to be acutely aware — in advance — of the type of guy they were dealing with and done a better job of managing him. Joe’s confident the Bucs would have done just as well last season with Freeman at the helm. Glennon was no upgrade, which is why the regime is gone — and so to will be Glennon (90% shot). –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:26 am
“it’s impossible to judge Glennon with any merit”
“it’s obvious to tell he has potential”
And that’s what is comical
May 5th, 2014 at 9:32 am
LOL
“Glennon was no upgrade, which is why the regime is gone ”
Uhh, I’d say the regime is gone because of 3 years of poor play and management by two crappy coaches and one terrible general manager, not Glennon. But why start sharing the blame now? Sure, it’s all Glennon’s fault….
” and so to will be Glennon (90% shot). –Joe”
You are awesome at predictions. Even giving odds now. This should be good.
More of your spin. Reality is Glennon and Schiano are still here if Glennon wins more games and doesn’t take a December nose dive. –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:35 am
oops. Five years. So, Glennon was running this team into the ground while still at NC State. Thanks Glennon!
May 5th, 2014 at 9:38 am
“Look, one can project and spin all things in all directions. Joe’s not sure what’s up your ass. Yes, after the 2012 season, Joe was in favor of offering Freeman a team-friendly extension, not one of the massive deals thrown at Ryan, Stafford, Cutler, etc. Joe also wouldn’t have wasted a third-round pick on Glennon or any other QB in last year’s draft. Perhaps if Freeman was shown more confidence, he would have performed better and not melted down. It’s not the Bucs’ fault Freeman crumbled, but it sure wouldn’t have hurt the team to be acutely aware — in advance — of the type of guy they were dealing with and done a better job of managing him. Joe’s confident the Bucs would have done just as well last season with Freeman at the helm. Glennon was no upgrade, which is why the regime is gone — and so to will be Glennon (90% shot). –Joe”
RFMAO…epic meltdown. someone should have wubbed fweemans widdle head.
now we see joe’s true motive. thank you ODB
Meltdown? What “meltdown?” What “motive?” — Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:42 am
newsflash. anyone watching free last year knew he should not have even been on the field. his head wasn’t there as it was.
joe lost ANY AND ALL credibility here.
Freeman left the field for the day in two out of his three games with the Bucs leading. Schiano even took the ball out of Freeman’s hand on what could have been a game-winning drive in favor of a field goal — just after Freeman threw an 18-yard first down to Vincent Jackson. –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:44 am
While your theories are entertaining, sorry, you don’t get to ascribe motives to Joe. You’re about to return to the naughty list. –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:45 am
Sorry, you don’t get to ascribe motives to Joe. You’re about to return to the naughty list. –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:46 am
You would have thought that all of those Mark Dominik sponge baths would have made FreEman feel special.
“Oh he’s a delicate genius”
-George Costanza
May 5th, 2014 at 9:54 am
Me thinks Joe got beat up alot as a kid!
No. But the more Joe has to babysit comments that attack Joe’s credibility and, subsequently, maliciously attack Joe’s business, that’s time Joe is not spending on delivering you the most comprehensive Bucs site on the planet. –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 9:54 am
“More of your spin. Reality is Glennon and Schiano are still here if Glennon wins more games and doesn’t take a December nose dive. –Joe”
Glennon IS still here. (Duh, but Glennon and Schiano are not.–Joe) … And, weren’t you the person reporting the Glazers already started coach hunting back in Oct/Nov?
So, right, Joe, if only your boy Dominik had gone 31-49 instead of 28-52. All would be good then. Holy revisionist thinking.
Let’s see how the rest of Freeman and Dominik’s careers go. (deleted remaining nonsense)
Coach hunting is not coach hiring. Joe also brought you a story from Charley Casserly explaining that most team GMs are ordered to have fluid lists of replacement coaching targets and options at all times. If you think Schiano wouldn’t be here if the Bucs went 6-2 in the second half of last season, then Joe can’t help you.–Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 10:11 am
“if the Bucs went 6-2 in the second half of last season, then Joe can’t help you.–Joe”
Right but I’m not going to blame a rookie QB, who didn’t even play the first few games, terrible line, one WR, third string running back, etc. for an entire regime change.
Yet, you still have time to make excuses for Joshie. “If they only massaged his shoulders a little more”. It’s high comedy how Free Free and Dominik get excuses but Glennon does not.
Good luck finding Joe making an excuse for Freeman. Glennon doesn’t need an excuse. The film bears out that he doesn’t have the talent to become a strong NFL starter. No shame in that. He’s been a solid third-round pick. –Joe
May 5th, 2014 at 10:25 am
“Perhaps if Freeman was shown more confidence, he would have performed better and not melted down. It’s not the Bucs’ fault Freeman crumbled, but it sure wouldn’t have hurt the team to be acutely aware — in advance — of the type of guy they were dealing with and done a better job of managing him.”
It’s fine if you don’t classify that as an excuse. I do. It’s my opinion. 😉
As for Glennon’s film. Oh come on Joe. There’s plenty of pro opinions about his ability to a starter. You’ve even posted them here. Certainly not a fact like you make it sound. “The film bears out.” LOL, ok Mayock…
May 5th, 2014 at 11:00 am
Sorry Joe. Suggesting that the past regimes removal is clear evidence that Glennon has no future seems like a fairly thin argument. That’s not what Joe argued.–Joe
oh, and Freeman blew himself up, no Dom, not Greg, not Rah, not you, not me……. Of course Freeman did. Still doesn’t mean he was managed well.—Joe
Glennon is an avg backup at this stage in the game. Right where he should be, holding a clipboard for a couple of years.
Everyone calm down.
May 5th, 2014 at 11:20 am
“Glennon was no upgrade, which is why the regime is gone — and so to will be Glennon (90% shot). –Joe”
I predict that there is a 75% shot that Joe is wrong again and Glennon stays as McCown’s back up.
Do they still have a need for QB? Sure they do, but they won’t draft one this year. Why? Because of Mike Glennon. I think Lovie has no problem running with McCown and Glennon into his first season as Buc’s HC. We’ll see.
May 5th, 2014 at 11:29 am
@87
Thought you would like this thread. LOL.
May 5th, 2014 at 11:30 am
Another thing. Atleast maybe after the draft we can get a better gauge on how these 2 (L&L) plan on doing things. Actually it’s almost like a book. Each chapter opens us up to a little more of the story. Training camp is another chapter. Then comes pre-season.
So far we have not read the part in the book where the young rookie QB gets traded. Then of course we’re not even at the 1/2 way point of the book yet.
Turn another page.
May 5th, 2014 at 11:33 am
ODB…lol it made my morning. I see Joe had a BUNCH of “Free” time on his hands to duel it out. It was a fun read.
May 5th, 2014 at 11:40 am
I’d be ok with the new regime taking a QB if, and only if, they get the third rounder back for Glennon. I wasn’t happy they spent that pick on him last year, but eventually the kid really grew on me and showed drastic improvements from his college days (mainly in the decision making area).
Manziel is the only prospect in this class that trumps Glennon, who is probably still ahead do to his thirteen games of NFL experience, but JF is a unique prospect who could really boom or bust.
other than that I don’t really see a reason to take another third or fourth round QB. If they can trade Glennon for a third and use it to select a guy like Carr or Shaw, that would basically be a wash or even a loss.
I just don’t see the purpose behind pushing Glennon out of town in exchange for anyone besides JF.
May 5th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
ODB,
Holy crap. I was out of pocket for a few hours, wished I’d been here. Good, logical points. But just remember….
JOE KNOWS QBs
May 5th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
No. But the more Joe has to babysit comments that attack Joe’s credibility and, subsequently, maliciously attack Joe’s business, that’s time Joe is not spending on delivering you the most comprehensive Bucs site on the planet. –Joe
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Actually, of late, it’s been the most comprehensive John Manziel site on the planet.
May 5th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
Joe Says: Glennon was not an upgrade over Freeman.
Posted previously, but:
JF5 — 34 points in three games, even including a pick6 by Mason Foster =11.3ppg
MG8 — 254 points in 13 games = 19.5 ppg
tickrdr
May 5th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
@lightning
That was………amusing.
I’m assuming he was referencing someone else re: credibility and maliciousness. Or Joe and I have differing opinions on the definition of each. Which is possible, we have differing opinions on the definition of “agenda”.
May 5th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
He was a freaking rookie for christ’s sake! For the life of me, I just can’t understand your hard-on for degrading this guy… Last ranked offense, last ranked offense, Johnny fooseball, last ranked offense, WE GET IT ALREADY! Seriously, chill the F out about it for a few days. The kid was a rookie playing for a crap coach learning plays drawn up by moron, with an O line as leaky as a sieve, and you wanna crucify him because his drives didn’t impress you enough? Time to put the booze down joe, your beer goggle man-crush for Manziel, and everything anti-Glennon is way past the point of disturbing.
May 5th, 2014 at 12:54 pm
I’d way rather keep Glennon than to take a chance on another thin framed QB in the early rounds(Bridgewater). At least Glennon showed some leadership qualities, something Teddy is rumored to struggle with
May 5th, 2014 at 12:59 pm
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May 5th, 2014 at 1:12 pm
@tmaxcon that was awesome brother
May 5th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
Thinking of another year of watching glennon qb our team makes me want to puke then laught histarically
Alotta Mike glennon lovers here they’re still in denial because by this time Friday glennon will likely be gone.
May 5th, 2014 at 3:48 pm
If MG8 was able to call all his own plays in no huddle, we would have won 7 or 8 games. You can’t say he didn’t look good running no huddle!! I will be working security at the draft party. Freemanites v. MGM v. The Johnnys is gonna be an epic brawl!!
May 5th, 2014 at 5:13 pm
I think it’s hilarious to see people posting the same excuses for Glennon they refused too use for Freeman….that is beyond delusional. Lovie came in and without hesitation but Glennon on the bench for a career back and out of football coaching. Glennon sucks!!!!! Weak arm, he runs like he’s elderly and all he does is throw checkdowns. The only way Glennon sees the field is preseason or An injury…..let it go already it’s embarrassing
May 5th, 2014 at 5:34 pm
Joe, you realize a “team friendly contract”, relative to market, would be $$10-14 million a year right? And that that abberation would handcuff the Bucs for years yeah?
If you’re suggesting we should have offered him a lowball contract he would have never accepted just to say you did…sure I guess???
May 5th, 2014 at 6:16 pm
Joe is correct; in 2 of the first 3 games last year, when Josh left the field for the final time, the Bucs had the lead. The defense (Schiano’s specialty) failed to make the lead stick. I was at the Saints game and the folks were accurately predicting that Schiano would not make the right calls needed to win the game. He didn’t. In the Patriots game, Josh threw 3 passes that should have been TDs; the receivers dropped those passes. Schiano stated Glennon gives the team the best chance to win. Once Schiano switched QBs, the team had to produce wins. They didn’t so Schi was fired. Lovie and Licht didn’t draft Glennon and therefore has no loyalty to him. Schiano didn’t view JF5 as the long-term answer at QB. Lovie and Licht feel the same way about Glennon. It’s
as simple as that.
May 5th, 2014 at 7:45 pm
Some of you youngsters don’t realize Elway, Manning’s, Aikman all were much worse than MG8 as rookies! You are spoiled and expect playoffs like what Luck, Flacco and Wilson. Look at Alex Smith, pretty good after Harbaugh. One year is not enough, most of you would have cut hall of famers that struggled early on.
May 5th, 2014 at 8:52 pm
Different eras. Rule changes in 2003 and later has made QB #s (both rookie and veterans) change completely. Barely any records (team or league) still stands from before 2003 in passing categories.
May 5th, 2014 at 9:56 pm
The receivers and the offensive line were the problem,not either of the qbs.Freeman was ok until his meltdown.Glennon would have been better if his receivers could catch third down passes.Especially Jackson who looked like a Clayton clone .If you watched all the games and the especially the last you know what I am talking about.
May 5th, 2014 at 10:05 pm
I would keep Glennon as our long term backup. Pick a QB at #7 and start McCown this year while Tedford works on fixing the new QBs flaws and gets him on the right path with film work. That takes the pressure off the new guy for the first year and raises the odds that he will become a franchise guy. I think the NFL ruins more top QB prospects by rushing them on to the field too soon because of big mouth fans. Glennon will develop into a sound McCown type guy, trustworthy and solid with a long career as a backup. Why wouldnt we want that. And if he is as good as some people think then he should be showing more after another year in the league. After the first or second year McCown retires or is beat out by the new guy who then has Glennon as backup breathing down his neck, pushing him hard for another shot. I could live with that. I know its been reported that Smith is only keeping two QBs but maybe he will re-think.
May 5th, 2014 at 10:08 pm
Freeman is such a wasted talent by his own undoing. What a wack job that kid is. I actually expect him to be out of the league shortly. Luckily the Bucs could be in great postion to draft a real franchise quarterback in only a matter of days.