A Potential Stumbling Block To Luring Revis
March 7th, 2013
It was all over the Twitterverse when popular sports radio personality Adam Schein, co-host of “The Blitz” with former Super Bowl quarterback Rich Gannon on SiriusXM NFL Radio, Twittered and spoke on the air yesterday about how two NFL GM’s told him the best possible landing spot for Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis was in Tampa Bay.
Yes, with the salary cap space, the dire need of cornerbacks, and draft picks to pay off a ransom to the Jets in a trade for Revis, on paper, the Bucs seem like the perfect spot for Revis to play next year.
But hold up! Gannon suggested there is a significant roadblock in the Bucs trying to acquire Revis.
The roadblock? Josh Freeman.
“There is talent there,” Gannon said of the Bucs. “But they have to get better at the corners. You look at Darrelle Revis, they have the money to spend in Tampa. I guess if you are Revis, you have to say to yourself, ‘Do I believe in Josh Freeman? Do I really believe with Josh Freeman we can win and we can win big with this type of quarterback?’
“Is he the quarterback he was [in 2010] or is he the player he was last year when he didn’t play his best football and of course the accuracy and the completion percentage and the decision-making and interceptions continued to haunt Josh Freeman.”
It is an interesting thought. Revis, who is entering the final, could refuse to sign a new contract and bolt from his (potential) new team after one season. He has a clause in his contract that he cannot be franchised.
Revis wants to play for a contender. The Jets are far from that right now.
Yes, Josh Freeman nearly led the Bucs to a playoff berth in 2010 when the Bucs were robbed of said playoff berth on a phantom offensive interference call on Sgt. Winslow against the Lions. That took points off the board in a game that went to overtime where the Lions upset the Bucs. The Bucs finished tied with Green Bay but lost the playoff berth in a tiebreaker. The Packers eventually won the Super Bowl.
Since, Freeman, to be polite, has been inconsistent at best
So the chance of the Bucs having Revis long-term may just come down to one question: Does Revis trust Freeman?
March 7th, 2013 at 8:52 am
Gannon says the exact same thing EVERY TIME someone calls in about Freeman. Gannon sounds like a robot/broken record…….and Schein is OUT!!! He’ll say ANYTHING right now for attention…..smh
March 7th, 2013 at 8:59 am
When your quarterback becomes an obstacle for bringing in pro bowlers they need to be seriously assessed, which I believe schiano will do this year. Josh Freeman + prowbowl= deep playoff run.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:01 am
I love this Freeman nonsense. The Bucs set franchise records on offense. Sure there were a lot of times Freeman was inconsistent, however the reason this team did not make the playoffs was because of our pass defense and pass defense only. Our defensive backs got absolutely torched all season long. Freeman didn’t blow the lead 5 or 6 times the pass defense did. What Freeman did on offense would have been enough if we had some corners who m we how to play football.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:08 am
Lets be honest…. Revis does not care who the qb is as long as a team makes him the highest paid def player in the league.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:17 am
Freeman WAS our defense last year. Our secondary was getting touched. Our D was lucky to hold opponents to a field goal most of the time. It was up to Freeman to out score them every week. That’s a lot of pressure. And the 25 year old had a great year minus a couple games. That doesn’t mean he can’t do it. It means he still has incredible upside. With another year under a good coordinator for free, all we need is a defense that can stop the other team. Keep them under 20-23 points. Not too much to ask of a d, cause free can deliver the points much better when we aren’t always in do or die catch up mode.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:20 am
Albert Haynesworth saved the Bucs 100mil before and maybe Revis does the same thing too! Maybe this is a way the football gods look out for a team that can’t seem to always make the best decisions for itself!
BTW, I’m not opposed to the Bucs pursuing Revis, but won’t be disappointed in the least if they don’t or if they do and he chooses to go elsewhere.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:22 am
Lol- and Joe throws out the Baited hook again
Nah! Freeman? No, Revis obviously wants to stay with that world beater,
Mark Sanchez!!
Gannon and Joe both hitting the sauce early today. Sanchez is about as bad as it gets in a starter. That’s why they keep benching him. I said when they drafted him- on this site- that Sanchez will not be a quality Starter.
Thibbs is spot on about what Revis desires.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:26 am
Geez, really, are you telling us that he wanted to redo his deal in NY because he trusted Sanchise/Tebow to take the Jets to the Super Bowl? Revis believes in one thing, getting paid, he wouldn’t care if Tim Couch or Akili Smith were brought in as QB, his attitude is just pay me. Which iin all honesty the Bucs can do without.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Do we REALLY thing Revis is concerned about Freeman after playing with Sanchez and Tebow? Seriously? Those guys were so bad you couldn’t even compare them to Orlovsky. Freeman is SOOO much better than those two clowns, even if you don’t like him.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:36 am
No one exclusively trusts Freeman. Not sure how relative that plays a role in Revis signing a new deal with the Bucs.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:42 am
When Freeman gets in Rhythem he can really Ball, he should have better pieces around him next year, so no excuses. I’m ready for Free Agency to start , it’s getting to annoying guessing what’s going to happen.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:45 am
What Capt. Tim said…By all accounts, Revis wants to stay with the Jets…with Mark Sanchez at the helm, and the most untalented roster in the NFL.
March 7th, 2013 at 9:56 am
All Revis cares about is $$$$$$$$$$$
March 7th, 2013 at 10:02 am
I hope this whole Revis conversation is media-driven and the Bucs are clearly focused on getting the FAs that will fill some important gaps in the team. There is going to be some serious bloodletting over the next few days and some of them could be of interest to the Bucs. We need a lot more than Revis to turn our team around. Regardless of how much money we have under the cap, there is a premium on every dollar spent!
March 7th, 2013 at 10:19 am
you would think it would be the whole Defensive Line would be the reason Revis does not want to play here. If the Pop-star is smart he will stay away. #1 you have to give up picks, #2 the guy has a knee injury, #3 the guy is trying to break an nfl record for hold outs, He held out his draft slot and got more money then his draft slot, 2 years later he held out. already he is about to hold out unless he get his 16-17 million a year.
Stay away Pop-star!
March 7th, 2013 at 10:22 am
Joe –
I know Revis is a big topic but I can’t truly believe that you actually think there’s a chance he comes to Tampa.
Come on, man.
March 7th, 2013 at 10:29 am
of course there is a chance, The boy-genius GM is in charge, he has a track record to trade for ( waste picks ) a guy with knee injury, make Him the highest paid player his position, Get 1 1/2 years of productivity, and by year 3 fans will want to trade or run said player off the team!
March 7th, 2013 at 11:01 am
^@ the_buc_realist,
What? Other than LaVonte David, name one *solid*, Mark Dominick, 2nd round pick?
Did you see Adrian Peterson run the Vikings to the playoffs last year, 9 months after tearring his ACL and MCL?
Modern Medicine should lead to modern thinking.
March 7th, 2013 at 11:03 am
Kellen Winslow Jr. for a 2nd round pick, was a GREAT TRADE.
Anytime you can turn a “2nd round pick” into your team’s leading receiver for 3 consecutive seasons, it is WORTH it. GOOD DEAL.
We should trade the 2nd round pick for Revis. Or, we can pick the next Brian Price, Reejus Benn, etc…
March 7th, 2013 at 11:14 am
Revis is not coming here. Dominik and Idzik have a relationship. Talk of Revis coming here increases his value to the Jets which in turn helps the Bucs by making the Falcons (most likely) give up more for him. Do not believe ANYTHING you hear in March and April.
March 7th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Neither is Martellus Bennett, resigning with the Giants!
March 7th, 2013 at 11:24 am
Goldson, Cox, Knighton, Winston…. Solid realistic off season.
March 7th, 2013 at 11:29 am
COME ON REVIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 7th, 2013 at 11:51 am
The way I view JF is if being a bad QB were illegal and he were on trial, 56 game tapes would be MORE than enough evidence against him to get him convicted!
March 7th, 2013 at 11:57 am
@ Macabee
The report of Bennett re-signing with the Giants was a hoax.
March 7th, 2013 at 12:09 pm
also
The report of Freeman being the Franchise was a hoax as well
March 7th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
T,
That’s it T, I’m getting out of the rumor-mongering business! lol
March 7th, 2013 at 12:41 pm
Control the media control their minds
March 7th, 2013 at 1:42 pm
Morris is to blame for that 2010 loss to the Lion’s.The freakin QB had a seperated sholder.Yet nobody caught on and I believe Muialday Moore ran it down our throught in OT.If Freeman get’s us to the playoff then get’s 12M per year.Freeman impending potential raise next season might make Reevis doubious about coming to Tampa.If we get Reevis signed and Freeman has a great year.Some other big contract’s guy’s will get cut.Most of our big contract’s will be impossible to cut.Josheph,Nick’s and Jackson’s contract’s would not produce cap space.Of course they can restructer.But the player know’s he has all the power in that situation.Unless your Mike Vick what a bone head.He could have crippled the Eagles if they released him.I just don’t want to get in the cowboy’s situation.in a couple year’s they’ll have to cut huge dead money.like 40m in dead money leaving them with 80m to field a team.
March 7th, 2013 at 1:50 pm
Signing Revis would handicap the Bucs in their pursuit of other needed additions to this team. Are we really one cornerback away from contention? I seriously doubt it. And not only will he take up almost half the Bucs available salary cap space in ONE player, he will cost high draft picks and that too will set the Bucs back. No thanks.
Better to sign Sean Smith at $10 mil/year than Revis at $15 mil. Then void Wright’s contract and ask him to re-sign at $4-$5 mil/year as opposed to his current $7 mil. Also take a look at Cox, Lewis and Toler as free agent additions. Then draft one or two good CB prospects and they’ll be set for years to come.
March 7th, 2013 at 1:59 pm
This makes sense from a winning stand point. But looking at Revis’s history, I think he’s more concerned about getting paid than actually winning. Throw more money at him than anyone else and he’s all ours. Though I’d rather go in a different direction.
March 7th, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Don’t be surprised if the Bucs shock a lot of people, just like last year, and draft a safety in the first round. If Dee Milliner, Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson are gone by #13, and if I were a betting man, I’d put my money on Kenny Vaccaro.
Besides McShay no one is linking him to the Bucs but I think that’s a mistake. They got their in-the-box guy last year in Barron and now they have a chance to get their center-fielder in Vaccaro. Perfect one-two punch. It would give them the best safety tandem in the league and safeties are huge in defending today’s passing game.
March 7th, 2013 at 2:06 pm
And no, I’m not limiting Barron to being an in-the-box safety. What I really meant to say is he’s most effective in the front 2/3’s of the defensive backfield whereas Vaccaro is outstanding in all areas but especially the back 1/3.
March 7th, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Does Revis trust Mark Sanchez?
March 7th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
Wow, some of you apparently know Revis very well. All he cares about is money? Maybe he is concerned with his long term finances – what a jerk! You don’t know the guy, so stop pretending like you know what he is all about. Just because you watched a few episodes of Hard Knocks doesn’t mean you know how the negotiations really went. These guys destroy their body and sign contracts that don’t even have to be honored by the teams, yet they are the ones that only care about money???? Do you think the owners, coaches, and GM’s are working for free? NFL contracts are only binding to the players. You don’t know the guy, nor do you have any clue how cut throat the NFL really is. Get a clue before you start characterizing a guy like he’s been hanging out in your living room for a week. What a joke.
March 7th, 2013 at 4:13 pm
Well said, Hawaiian.
March 7th, 2013 at 4:36 pm
*Sigh* and once again, Hawaiian found his moment, and contributed the only thing he ever contributes-
Giving us all a tongue lashing, for daring to judge Revis!! Bad posters!! You have dared offend “JoeBucs” resident Mom- Hawaiian Buc
Dude,your overwhelming obsession with being the disciplinarian on this site, leads me to believe you must have had one horrible childhood
We all know enough about Revis. Every year, contract or not- he’s threatening to hold out if he doesn’t get more money. It’s the same story from him every year. That is plain for everyone to see, Mom!!
In between crying for money-he is the best CB in the NFL. That’s worth listening to crying. He is a good citizen, by NFL standards, but man! This guy is all money.
If he keeps playing the way he has, I hope we give him some. I’ll listen to him cry every spring with a smile.
Because I’ll know every fall, my team has the best Cornerback in football.
March 7th, 2013 at 4:37 pm
I don’t see it happening under any circumstances. Dominick won’t give the Jets what they want, won’t waste his picks, and the risk reward is too great to make the move. Dom will address the CB issue in Free Agency, I believe, but he is not going to trade picks for an injured CB that underperformed his contract in the last couple years. Revis couldn’t bring the Jets a Championship and he won’t bring the Bucs one either. Just my opinion, but it ain’t gonna happen. I think Revis may still make someone happy, but their is a high probability he will also make them miserable, and we’re tired of misery here……… Moving right along.
March 7th, 2013 at 4:41 pm
Hey Captain, lay off Hawaiian Buc. He isn’t the problem here. Poor Drafting and inconsistency is what got us to this point. Things however can turn around quickly. Look how the 49’rs went from worst to first in 1 year with pretty much the same players. It can happen and it will happen, but now with Die-Well Wevis.
March 7th, 2013 at 4:47 pm
If anyone wants to hang out in my living room this weekend, I’m smoking Brisket and restocking the Kegerator.
NFL players are not invited, fans only.
March 7th, 2013 at 4:50 pm
Capt. Tim,
This coming from the guy who calls people names on a regular basis. Get a grip dude. I don’t have to answer to you. If you have a problem with my posts, then skip right over them. I’ve never once been told to cool it by Joe, and I could truly care less what you think.
Revis has held out once, and he ended up signing a very team friendly deal to get back on the field and help the team. That was his fault, no doubt. All he stated recently was that he wanted a long term deal, but he never once said he would hold out. Get your facts straight little boy before you join a grown man’s conversation. I may have had a rough childhood, but you are still having one.
But yeah, I have a problem with people characterizing someone as if they know him. If you think you have the right to do that, then I have the right to state my opinion the the contrary. If you are too much of a little girl to deal with it, don’t read my posts. Trust me, it won’t hurt my feelings. I’ve never seen anyone get his panties in a wad as much as you with everything I post. I wasn’t addressing you anyway, so why you are even responding is beyond me.
March 7th, 2013 at 5:17 pm
BigMac- lol- I’m in!! How ’bout ex-NFL players, they banned too?
Yeah, I’m gonna quit talking to Hawiian. All his motherly scolding are EXTREMELY annoying- but after seeing it so long, there must be a tragedy in that lil hockey puck’s past
Your right. This team has drafted so miserably, from the Gruden year til (finally) last year.
But there is always hope
March 7th, 2013 at 5:31 pm
Again, Tampa should stay away from Revis, I believe this guy lost his swag for the game, all he wants is money, and to come leisure around the field, trying not to get hurt, parading himself for all the good things he has done, but not really playing at full speed, seriously??, get somebody else, please we don’t need this headache, specially not for all that money, that could be used to get two good corners, Hello!!!
March 7th, 2013 at 6:50 pm
Although I think last year’s draft was a home run and I like the Clayborn Bowers picks before that. Dom is getting better and growing in his job. I think he is doing an awesome job as GM.
March 7th, 2013 at 6:55 pm
Outta look at Kennan Lewis of Pittsburgh
And( braces for criticism) Nnamdi.
He is great as a a press CB. Just what we need.
He sucks in zone coverage. Which is exactly where Philliy’s O-line coach, Turned mysteriously Defensive co-coordinator, put him.
That horrible misuse of talent cost alot of people their jobs. And should have!
But it didn’t make Nnamdi a bad player. Just a player not being used to his strengths. He is still a great press corner, and can play on an Island.
He’d be cheap, with alot to prove. Model citizen. Shutdown corner. 10 times better than anybody we are trotting out the field
March 7th, 2013 at 7:08 pm
Does Revis trust Freeman?
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Oh boy I guess Revis ain’t coming to town….
March 7th, 2013 at 7:21 pm
@BigMac
You’re smoking what? I hope that “wink wink” brisket was the same type of brisket “wink wink” that TJ was smoking a few years back…..
March 7th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
@Hawaiian.
I read your posts and feel your pain boss. Trying to communicate with jarrett and Capt Tina can drive one to drink if you let them. Funny thing is they both give the term ‘Homer’ a bad name.
Heck after reading Capt Tina and jarrett I believe that Homer Simpson is a genius compared to those two dolts.
March 7th, 2013 at 7:28 pm
@Mr. Lucky,
Yeah, it’s unfortunate we don’t all have the talent evaluation skills, football knowledge, and knowledge of every player’s character as Tina does. It’s amazing that she graces us with her company. One would think she was too busy to do such a thing.
March 7th, 2013 at 8:16 pm
@Hawaiian
Capt Tina has plenty of time now that Hard Knocks isn’t on HBO….
March 7th, 2013 at 8:38 pm
No Mr Lucky, I don’t smoke anymore, only on weekends……… and occasionally during the week. But not more than a couple times a day, in the morning, and occasionally in the evening.
I hear tell that Dr. Mary J may be on the ballot in our next election.
Smokes if you got em.
March 8th, 2013 at 2:12 am
I wander what would happen on this blog if Dom actually did sign Revis . Personally, I can’t wait till FA. We have to plug some holes. Anyone hear anything from Barbers talk with Domonic yesterday?
March 8th, 2013 at 2:05 pm
We should really make a Revis deal.
Our team lacks a superior talent. GMC is the closes thing to a superstar, and he may emerge as one, but he needs help.
Our CBs are the worst BY FAR in the league.
It would make sense to make the trade with the NYJ now, just as it did when we traded for Keyshawn.
We need Talent.